Is Diet Coke actually Satan?

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  • miriamtob
    miriamtob Posts: 436 Member
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    usmcmp wrote: »
    mwyvr wrote: »
    mwyvr wrote: »
    randomtai wrote: »
    I drink Diet Coke, it does not make me want to eat more, nor does it make me want more sweets.

    While that may be true for you it doesn't follow that's the same case for everyone.

    FTFY

    FTFY.

    Artificial sweeteners may increase weight gain or slowc weight loss in some individuals because poorer choices are made elsewhere in their diets, or because they become our remain addicted to sweetened foods and consume more such foods with caloric impact. Affect all? No, but for sure some.

    As for physical impacts it's early days but sufficient research exists to warrant caution.

    http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/health/artificial-sweeteners-linked-to-obesity-epidemic-scientists-say-1.2769196

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24862170

    Funding Agencies: The study was fully funded by The American Beverage Association.
    Disclosure: JCP, JOH received consulting fees from The Coca-Cola Company outside of the submitted work. The remaining co-authors declared no conflict of interest.
  • snikkins
    snikkins Posts: 1,282 Member
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    miriamtob wrote: »
    usmcmp wrote: »
    mwyvr wrote: »
    mwyvr wrote: »
    randomtai wrote: »
    I drink Diet Coke, it does not make me want to eat more, nor does it make me want more sweets.

    While that may be true for you it doesn't follow that's the same case for everyone.

    FTFY

    FTFY.

    Artificial sweeteners may increase weight gain or slowc weight loss in some individuals because poorer choices are made elsewhere in their diets, or because they become our remain addicted to sweetened foods and consume more such foods with caloric impact. Affect all? No, but for sure some.

    As for physical impacts it's early days but sufficient research exists to warrant caution.

    http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/health/artificial-sweeteners-linked-to-obesity-epidemic-scientists-say-1.2769196

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24862170

    Funding Agencies: The study was fully funded by The American Beverage Association.
    Disclosure: JCP, JOH received consulting fees from The Coca-Cola Company outside of the submitted work. The remaining co-authors declared no conflict of interest.

    This doesn't mean the study is bad or invalid. It just means to look a bit harder at the science-y bits and conclusions to see if there's bias there. Often, there isn't; sometimes, there is.

  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
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    There is no way, no how i would let my child guzzle that stuff!!!

    Let's all come back in a few years and see what the science says then..

    Right now I'm sticking with my gut feeling of avoiding it whenever I can
  • FitForL1fe
    FitForL1fe Posts: 1,872 Member
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    checking back in to find out the status of the whole satan issue

    holla back at me
  • randomtai
    randomtai Posts: 9,003 Member
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    Science.
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  • miriamtob
    miriamtob Posts: 436 Member
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    snikkins wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    usmcmp wrote: »
    mwyvr wrote: »
    mwyvr wrote: »
    randomtai wrote: »
    I drink Diet Coke, it does not make me want to eat more, nor does it make me want more sweets.

    While that may be true for you it doesn't follow that's the same case for everyone.

    FTFY

    FTFY.

    Artificial sweeteners may increase weight gain or slowc weight loss in some individuals because poorer choices are made elsewhere in their diets, or because they become our remain addicted to sweetened foods and consume more such foods with caloric impact. Affect all? No, but for sure some.

    As for physical impacts it's early days but sufficient research exists to warrant caution.

    http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/health/artificial-sweeteners-linked-to-obesity-epidemic-scientists-say-1.2769196

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24862170

    Funding Agencies: The study was fully funded by The American Beverage Association.
    Disclosure: JCP, JOH received consulting fees from The Coca-Cola Company outside of the submitted work. The remaining co-authors declared no conflict of interest.

    This doesn't mean the study is bad or invalid. It just means to look a bit harder at the science-y bits and conclusions to see if there's bias there. Often, there isn't; sometimes, there is.

    Major conflict of interest. One strike.
    All the participants had to be drinkers of NNS beverages to begin with. That's odd. Also, the graph at the end showing 5% is misleading, arbitrary and indicates bias when examined critically. It could have just as easily been a graph showing "percent of people who lost 1% or gained 2.4%, etc..."; manipulate the data subtly to make it look the way your client wants it to look. Need to see better studies that show the long term effects and are not funded by beverage companies.
  • ohmscheeks
    ohmscheeks Posts: 840 Member
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    Yes - But, I say that about all diet sodas; can't stand the taste. :)
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
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    miriamtob wrote: »
    snikkins wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    usmcmp wrote: »
    mwyvr wrote: »
    mwyvr wrote: »
    randomtai wrote: »
    I drink Diet Coke, it does not make me want to eat more, nor does it make me want more sweets.

    While that may be true for you it doesn't follow that's the same case for everyone.

    FTFY

    FTFY.

    Artificial sweeteners may increase weight gain or slowc weight loss in some individuals because poorer choices are made elsewhere in their diets, or because they become our remain addicted to sweetened foods and consume more such foods with caloric impact. Affect all? No, but for sure some.

    As for physical impacts it's early days but sufficient research exists to warrant caution.

    http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/health/artificial-sweeteners-linked-to-obesity-epidemic-scientists-say-1.2769196

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24862170

    Funding Agencies: The study was fully funded by The American Beverage Association.
    Disclosure: JCP, JOH received consulting fees from The Coca-Cola Company outside of the submitted work. The remaining co-authors declared no conflict of interest.

    This doesn't mean the study is bad or invalid. It just means to look a bit harder at the science-y bits and conclusions to see if there's bias there. Often, there isn't; sometimes, there is.

    Major conflict of interest. One strike.
    All the participants had to be drinkers of NNS beverages to begin with. That's odd. Also, the graph at the end showing 5% is misleading, arbitrary and indicates bias when examined critically. It could have just as easily been a graph showing "percent of people who lost 1% or gained 2.4%, etc..."; manipulate the data subtly to make it look the way your client wants it to look. Need to see better studies that show the long term effects and are not funded by beverage companies.

    Man, if only there was a link like I gave before to examine, which had a half dozen or more studies about these things.
  • snikkins
    snikkins Posts: 1,282 Member
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    senecarr wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    snikkins wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    usmcmp wrote: »
    mwyvr wrote: »
    mwyvr wrote: »
    randomtai wrote: »
    I drink Diet Coke, it does not make me want to eat more, nor does it make me want more sweets.

    While that may be true for you it doesn't follow that's the same case for everyone.

    FTFY

    FTFY.

    Artificial sweeteners may increase weight gain or slowc weight loss in some individuals because poorer choices are made elsewhere in their diets, or because they become our remain addicted to sweetened foods and consume more such foods with caloric impact. Affect all? No, but for sure some.

    As for physical impacts it's early days but sufficient research exists to warrant caution.

    http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/health/artificial-sweeteners-linked-to-obesity-epidemic-scientists-say-1.2769196

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24862170

    Funding Agencies: The study was fully funded by The American Beverage Association.
    Disclosure: JCP, JOH received consulting fees from The Coca-Cola Company outside of the submitted work. The remaining co-authors declared no conflict of interest.

    This doesn't mean the study is bad or invalid. It just means to look a bit harder at the science-y bits and conclusions to see if there's bias there. Often, there isn't; sometimes, there is.

    Major conflict of interest. One strike.
    All the participants had to be drinkers of NNS beverages to begin with. That's odd. Also, the graph at the end showing 5% is misleading, arbitrary and indicates bias when examined critically. It could have just as easily been a graph showing "percent of people who lost 1% or gained 2.4%, etc..."; manipulate the data subtly to make it look the way your client wants it to look. Need to see better studies that show the long term effects and are not funded by beverage companies.

    Man, if only there was a link like I gave before to examine, which had a half dozen or more studies about these things.

    And if only it were possible to recognize and attempt to combat our own biases instead of being a warrior of righteousness.

    I personally don't see an issue with this study especially when taken in conjunction with the others.

  • Wolf___
    Wolf___ Posts: 99 Member
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    All Hail Aspartame!
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
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    Wolf___ wrote: »
    All Hail Aspartame!

    Y'all do slightly come across quite cult like :tongue:
  • Wolf___
    Wolf___ Posts: 99 Member
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    LOL... I couldn't care less if people drink Diet Coke, Regular Coke, or toilet bowl water.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
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    Wolf___ wrote: »
    LOL... I couldn't care less if people drink Diet Coke, Regular Coke, or toilet bowl water.

    Neither do I. It's their health, not mine.

  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
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    You can't have a proper scienticism cult until you start trying to apply scientific methods to morality and just reinvent the worst crap in Utilitarianism.
  • RobertDupuy
    RobertDupuy Posts: 48 Member
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    Diet coke gives me a massive headache. I don't know why, I wanted to like it. When I was young, Coke was a favorite. First time I had a cigarette it made me sick, shoulda listened to that. I quit smoking, but it was years later. If a person never got a headache from it, then they didn't....but if you did at first... Your body might have been telling you something. I wonder how many diet coke drinkers can actually give it up. My observation is it sure appears to be addictive.
  • plo4u
    plo4u Posts: 14 Member
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    It's all moderation. Soda all day, every day is bad. They used to say agave syrup and sweeteners were better for you than sugar and now there's a study that it's bad for you too.
    Just don't down a 2 liter every day and you'll be fine. Life is killing you anyway!
  • MamaBirdBoss
    MamaBirdBoss Posts: 1,516 Member
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    ScreeField wrote: »
    But you're supposed to be stabbing someone else in secret. :) No placebo effect there!

    You could test it by making a doll of someone else and stabbing them in secret. You'd know it worked because the very next bad thing that happened to them was certainly caused by your actions :)

    Ah, nice. ;)
  • MamaBirdBoss
    MamaBirdBoss Posts: 1,516 Member
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    Swiftlet66 wrote: »
    Parents: I am just wondering but would you allow your little boy or girl to drink diet soda every day?

    Parents who would allow: I'd like to suggest you do a long term study on the effects (if any) for drinking diet soda in children. For the sake of proving your point of course, that diet soda is harmless.

    Caffeine free would be fine. But mine has caffeine. So they usually have about 1/8 of a can to 1/2 of a can a day.
  • rachael00679
    rachael00679 Posts: 186 Member
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    Diet coke and Pepsi max are not evil or satan and thus far have not made me want to eat more or crave sweets. Alcohol however.... Well that is another issue entirely.
  • miriamtob
    miriamtob Posts: 436 Member
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    Still waiting to see more studies that aren't funded by beverage companies...