Can't gain muscle on diet. What??
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You will probably reach a point where lifts start to stall. It will probably be somewhere slightly past the point of muscle growth slowing down because you'll still probably have room to improve from learning.jenniejoy07 wrote: »So, I'm obese (215lbs) and I've been lifting for 2 months now (down 10lbs total)
My bench has gone from 65lb to 85lb and I've seen increases in all lifts. I am eating a significant calorie deficit depending on the amt of exercise I have that day.
Will there be a point in my weight loss where I have to stop increasing the weight I'm able to lift?
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jenniejoy07 wrote: »So, I'm obese (215lbs) and I've been lifting for 2 months now (down 10lbs total)
My bench has gone from 65lb to 85lb and I've seen increases in all lifts. I am eating a significant calorie deficit depending on the amt of exercise I have that day.
Will there be a point in my weight loss where I have to stop increasing the weight I'm able to lift?
Yes, I have lost 15 pounds on my working bench press numbers from when I weighed 250 to 225 pounds. It is what it is. That is why it is important to stick to your goals. Gaining muscle and losing weight are 2 separate goals.
Lose the weight, get down to your goal weight and lift weights while you do it and you will just have to accept the fact that you will lose some strength along the way. It is no big deal.0 -
so if you eat at a deficit and lift weights you will never get any bigger muscles? but if you eat more to gain muscle wouldnt you also gain back the fat? I am curious as I am trying to get rid of the fat around my middle but I lift weights because I also want to gain muscle. obviously I am not doing too good.
yes, if you run a bulk you will gain fat and muscle. Typical ration is 1:1 ..so 10 pounds gained will equal 5 pounds of muscle and 5 pounds of fat. You then run a cut to cut the fat off and preserve muscle.
I've seen this iterated a million times here but for some reason, this is the first time it 100% clicked.
Anyway, carry on as y'all were.0 -
It's simple. Muscles need calories to grow. When you eat at a deficit, you're not supplying your muscles with enough calories to stimulate any noticeable amount of growth.
Gaining strength is not the same as gaining muscle. You can do the former without he latter, which is generally what happens when you strength train while eating at a deficit.
Your muscles might look bigger, but that's only because you're shedding the fat that was covering them up - this is what women like to call "tone," and it's simply a lower body fat percentage. It has nothing to do with muscle growth.
You lift weights while losing weight to maintain your current lean muscle mass, not increase it. That requires eating at least to maintenance, and even that takes forever. This is why people bulk - to gain mass.
Also, do you seriously have that as your profile picture? I can't even...0 -
Trained athletes eating in a deficit and gaining LBM:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3519021&d=13101931690 -
Trained athletes eating in a deficit and gaining LBM:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3519021&d=1310193169
Thank you so much. This looks like a paper I was actually looking for a little while ago because of this exact topic.0 -
LyndseyLovesToLift wrote: »
Also, do you seriously have that as your profile picture? I can't even...
Haha! I just didn't want to identify myself. And it was the first innocuous thing I found on my phone lol. I didn't want to look like a noob.
On that account I'm realizing on the fitness side there are things I really don't know much about. Love this community.0 -
PeterJones4 wrote: »Trained athletes eating in a deficit and gaining LBM:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3519021&d=1310193169
Old news, best to stay current with science. A post from 2012 from heybales
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/447514/athletes-can-gain-muscle-while-losing-fat-on-deficit-diet
Not old to everyone but thanks for playing.0 -
PeterJones4 wrote: »Trained athletes eating in a deficit and gaining LBM:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3519021&d=1310193169
Old news, best to stay current with science. A post from 2012 from heybales
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/447514/athletes-can-gain-muscle-while-losing-fat-on-deficit-diet
Not old to everyone but thanks for playing.
If you haven't seen it, it's new to you.0 -
PeterJones4 wrote: »Trained athletes eating in a deficit and gaining LBM:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3519021&d=1310193169
Old news, best to stay current with science. A post from 2012 from heybales
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/447514/athletes-can-gain-muscle-while-losing-fat-on-deficit-diet
Not old to everyone but thanks for playing.
If you haven't seen it, it's new to you.
Plus, who cares? Once a study is posted, it can't ever be posted again? Is that a new rule?
It is relevant regardless on if it has been posted before.0 -
PeterJones4 wrote: »Trained athletes eating in a deficit and gaining LBM:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3519021&d=1310193169
Old news, best to stay current with science. A post from 2012 from heybales
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/447514/athletes-can-gain-muscle-while-losing-fat-on-deficit-diet
Not old to everyone but thanks for playing.
If you haven't seen it, it's new to you.
Exactly, and you'll note that I've attached the full text
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Trained athletes eating in a deficit and gaining LBM:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3519021&d=1310193169
Thank you so much. This looks like a paper I was actually looking for a little while ago because of this exact topic.
I'm actually going to look for a few more of these. I'm aware of one or two others but I'll have to go digging. Will likely compile them into one post or a blog entry eventually.0 -
Are we really going to say a study published in January 2012 is that much newer than one published in October 2011?0
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Ha. I am completely confused.
Also confused by how PeterJones4 posted it when his account was deactivated after his first post in this thread.
I think that all of the MFP crazytown hijinks have fried my brain today.0 -
Trained athletes eating in a deficit and gaining LBM:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3519021&d=1310193169
Thank you so much. This looks like a paper I was actually looking for a little while ago because of this exact topic.
I'm actually going to look for a few more of these. I'm aware of one or two others but I'll have to go digging. Will likely compile them into one post or a blog entry eventually.
Helms
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/257350851_A_Systematic_Review_of_Dietary_Protein_During_Caloric_Restriction_in_Resistance_Trained_Lean_Athletes_A_Case_for_Higher_Intakes0 -
Ha. I am completely confused.
Also confused by how PeterJones4 posted it when his account was deactivated after his first post in this thread.
I think that all of the MFP crazytown hijinks have fried my brain today.
Yeah I noticed that too about the deactivated account.
The two studies are the same, the thread that PeterJones4 linked (haybales thread) was one linking the abstract from PubMed. The attachment I linked from bb.com is the pdf (full text) version of the same study.0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »Trained athletes eating in a deficit and gaining LBM:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3519021&d=1310193169
Thank you so much. This looks like a paper I was actually looking for a little while ago because of this exact topic.
I'm actually going to look for a few more of these. I'm aware of one or two others but I'll have to go digging. Will likely compile them into one post or a blog entry eventually.
Helms
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/257350851_A_Systematic_Review_of_Dietary_Protein_During_Caloric_Restriction_in_Resistance_Trained_Lean_Athletes_A_Case_for_Higher_Intakes
Thanks!0
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