Calories burnt doing household chores
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radiosilents wrote: »
you really can't see how you are judging me? Wow...let me spell it out...you are judging me because I don't keep people on my FL if they log cleaning...you find me wanting and less than due to that.radiosilents wrote: »radiosilents wrote: »radiosilents wrote: »Per this article
1) <5000 steps.d (sedentary);
2) 5000-7499 steps.d (low active);
3) 7500-9999 steps.d (somewhat active);
4) > or =10,000-12,499 steps.d (active); and
5) > or =12,500 steps.d (highly active)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14715035
So I get about 5k steps doing my weekly cleaning...2-3 hours. Laundry, scrubbing, bathroom etc...I don't log it.
I feel if your house is dirty enough to break a sweat cleaning it you don't deserve to eat back the calories from cleaning it...that is your punishment.
And to be frank if I see someone logging cleaning on my FL...they are removed. I want serious people on my FL...those who are honest with themselves about their true goals and if you are logging cleaning...that's not you.
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I just want to say this again, because really?? I have always logged these things and I am quite serious – have lost 96 pounds since last May.
Yes really and if you all don't like it don't send me FR cause they won't get accepted and if they do and I see cleaning logged you get removed. If you think logging cleaning is acceptable that is your business go ahead...I don't and that is my business. *smh*
When you have 20-30lbs left to go and you are still logging those things and can't figure out why it won't come off come back to this thread and remember this.
Forever surprised at how offended people get by strangers...
Trust me, I would NOT be sending you a FR.
I'm not offended, but only surprised at how judgmental people can be. Everyone's experience is different.
I'm sure that when I get closer to goal my approach will change, but logging activity like that has been how I've done things, and I wanted to share that since it was another answer to the OP's question. Anyone can look at my profile and see how much weight I've lost and how much I have to lose.
In addition to cleaning and cooking, I also log things like running, cycling, tennis, and yoga. I'm doing all kinds of stuff and I am trying to eat and live in a way that is sustainable – so that I lose weight slowly and that I will keep it off for good.
Whatever.
Yet you feel it's okay to judge me....? interesting...pot/kettle...
btw I didn't ask for a FR from you...*smh*
As you said everyone's experience is different and if you are at such a low calorie goal that you need the extra from logging cleaning....have at...my experience is this...I cleaned hard/gardened hard and I gained/maintained over 200lbs for a long time...cleaning is not exercise...it is done while we are gaining/losing/maintaining...kind of like death and taxes.
Jesus. You said: "Yes really and if you all don't like it don't send me FR..."
I'm not sure how it is I am judging you now. At all.
I'm not at such a low calorie goal, no. I said earlier, I am trying to eat in a way that is sustainable for the long haul. I have plenty of cals to play with. I usually don't eat back all my exercise cals because I know about the great margin of error. I make adjustments as I go along. If I stall (and I have), I mix it up or I tighten things up in the log. And like I said, this has worked for me.
A "normal" day for me is a desk job for 8 hours, plus a 45 minute drive each way, and then relaxing in the evening, so anything outside of that I see as extra effort – of course this includes the four running workouts each week, three-four sessions of tennis a week, and other things here and there (cycling, hiking). I include mowing the lawn because it is an effort, I include gardening and yardwork for the same reason, and I include cleaning because when I clean, I really clean.
Funny thing is I don't care if you log cleaning, yard work, or exercise...people on my FL have the same outlook on this as me...if you don't your not on my FL...I am not judging anyone for their choices...I might in jest but holy crap people.....it's my FL and i get to choose who gets on it and why. Am I gonna get the same response when I say
If you eat under 1200 don't send me a FR?
If you eliminate food groups don't send me a FR?
If you do weird diets or use cleanses or odd pills to lose weight don't send me a FR?
Probably not...
I am not judging you, though. I would just choose not to friend you based on what I've seen here in the forums, as you would choose not to friend me knowing what you know. I guess that could be considered judging but I'm not sure why you are taking such offense by it.
We all have criteria for those we wish to be friends with, here or in the real world. My criteria for friends here is that they are engaged and active, that they are interesting (to me), and... here's the kicker... your list minus the cleaning/cooking biz. I also hate the word "cheat" in relation to food, so if someone starts with that, I just can't deal and I will generally unfriend.
I'll just keep doing what I am doing and continue to be successful, however long it takes me, cleaning and cooking or not.
I just want to say this again, because really?? This statement is judgemental...
Trust me, I would NOT be sending you a FR. pretty "blunt" and judgemental....
am I offended nope...I find the harping on me due to my choices tiring...that's all...from private hateful messages to open condemnation from a certain population on the forums a bit tiring...and personally just sick of the BS so I am defending myself and my choices...0 -
GauchoMark wrote: »Geez, is this thread still here? It's been over 24 hours now. We have to let this one die so I don't have to keep looking at the "misspelt" title!
Haha that bugs me too. OCD...0 -
This thread is exactly why I have a Fitbit. It tells me exactly how much I should be eating, every day, based on that day's activity. In the last half hour I have logged 1000 steps at my "desk job" between running to the printer and taking stuff to my boss's office as she figures out what she needs.0
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TheVirgoddess wrote: »I'm always curious about people who log cooking - do they log sex, too?
I noticed this once when I was looking through the public diary of someone who was complaining about plateauing... "Sexy Time" as exercise. Noped myself right out of there.
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Last time I was in the gym, I didn't see any kitchens or vacuum cleaners.
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Last time I was in the gym, I didn't see any kitchens or vacuum cleaners.
One does not need a gym to lose weight or be fit. My mom eats like a horse but is one pound away from being underweight due to her burn from gardening and maintaining a 200 year old house. And cooking and cleaning!
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Does your vacuum cleaner have a pull start?PeachyCarol wrote: »
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I am forever amazed at how difficult people want to make weight control. I can't even imagine WANTING to log every little thing I do but I guess everyone needs a hobby.0
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LaarainNYC wrote: »I log things like cleaning only when it's out of the ordinary and pretty strenuous. I find that logging the calories is an incentive to move. However, I don't usually eat back my exercise calories. It's just nice to feel like I have a cushion. It's a psychological thing for me. I'm in the <30 lbs to lose club and if I ate back my exercise calories I would gain weight or at best maintain.
Yes, I find logging activity to be an incentive to move as well and as I said earlier, I don't eat back all my exercise calories so I too always have a cushion.
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Just going to leave these links here:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/17/health/sex-calorie-burn-upwave/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LpPUmrKEg8
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NEAT: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12468415
This is what MFP is based on. Cooking and cleaning and gardening are included in it. One should pick an activity level commensurate with one's level of NEAT, unless you have a Fitbit. I understand you're probably best using sedentary with one of those.
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kshama2001 wrote: »
Because logging food matters, vigorously scrubbing a toilet doesn't0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »
we do it's called an appropriate activity level...if you want to log all movement there are sites for that I was a member of one once...no way no how am I logging "normal" activity everyday...and we can be more certain of the calories in the food than we can be of the calories from scrubbing a floor...or chopping a carrot vs turnip.0 -
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kshama2001 wrote: »
Because logging food matters, vigorously scrubbing a toilet doesn't
Also, food is such an easily and quickly measured thing, every little activity is not. I mean, where do you stop? What will you count? Whatever...like I said, I'm sure I have hobbies others would think are an odd use of time.
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kshama2001 wrote: »Last time I was in the gym, I didn't see any kitchens or vacuum cleaners.
One does not need a gym to lose weight or be fit. My mom eats like a horse but is one pound away from being underweight due to her burn from gardening and maintaining a 200 year old house. And cooking and cleaning!
When someone ask me how I got where I am today, it will not be by cleaning and cooking!! LOL
By the way, I haven't set foot in a gym in over a year now. I walk 6 miles 5-6 days a week and weight lift in my garage. I agree with you that you don't need a gym to lose the weight.0 -
Maybe I'm uncomfortable logging the cleaning because it seems unfair on the woman who comes and does it0
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PeachyCarol wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »
Wait, you don't log every gram of food but you log sex?
I do log every gram of food.
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[quote/] EXACTLY. I have 5 to my goal weight, and if I logged those things I would GAIN. Heck, I barely log exercise AT ALL anymore because there is zero wiggle room left. [/quote]
^yep. That's me right now. Not logging any exercise I do anymore. 5 - 10lbs to lose max.
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kshama2001 wrote: »
Because logging food matters, vigorously scrubbing a toilet doesn't
Also, food is such an easily and quickly measured thing, every little activity is not. I mean, where do you stop? What will you count? Whatever...like I said, I'm sure I have hobbies others would think are an odd use of time.
I have a timer on my watch that I use when I stop and start everything but sex. (I think I've actually forgotten to log sex for some time.)
ETA - everything meaning activities in the MFP cardiovascular exercise database like cooking, cleaning, gardening, walking, yoga, swimming, etc.
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kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »
Because logging food matters, vigorously scrubbing a toilet doesn't
Also, food is such an easily and quickly measured thing, every little activity is not. I mean, where do you stop? What will you count? Whatever...like I said, I'm sure I have hobbies others would think are an odd use of time.
I have a timer on my watch that I use when I stop and start everything but sex. (I think I've actually forgotten to log sex for some time.)
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kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »
Because logging food matters, vigorously scrubbing a toilet doesn't
Also, food is such an easily and quickly measured thing, every little activity is not. I mean, where do you stop? What will you count? Whatever...like I said, I'm sure I have hobbies others would think are an odd use of time.
I have a timer on my watch that I use when I stop and start everything but sex. (I think I've actually forgotten to log sex for some time.)
Everything?
What about using the bathroom?0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Last time I was in the gym, I didn't see any kitchens or vacuum cleaners.
One does not need a gym to lose weight or be fit. My mom eats like a horse but is one pound away from being underweight due to her burn from gardening and maintaining a 200 year old house. And cooking and cleaning!
do you live with her? do you measure her food...you may think she eats like a horse but she probably doesn't...
I garden, maintain a house, have tonnes of flower beds (no tiller until last year) they were all dug by hand, a child and fairly active life making most of my food from scratch...I was not under weight..
I watched my own mother raise 7 kinds in a 200 yo house, garden mow an acre by pushing and maintain flower beds etc...she was over weight...don't give me that.
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The thing is, this conversation could be about household chores just as easily as it could be about all those steps people think they should count. Any activity you did prior to your weight-loss initiative does not count and shouldn't be logged. So if you always cleaned your house once a week, don't log it. But the same goes for walking from your desk to the bathroom, or to your car at the end of the day. You were doing this before. ADDITIONAL activity is what should be logged.
For instance, I now take the long way to get to the bathroom from my desk. I deduct the amount of steps it USED to take from the shorter route, and that's how I arrive at the number of extra steps. After I use the bathroom, I then walk around the building for another several hundred steps. I count these because I didn't do any of this before. I always washed my dishes and cooked and folded laundry--so I don't count it. But if I march in place for 10 minutes while I cook? I log that as a slow walk (2.5 mph) and I can get up to 60 minutes of that extra activity. This in addition to my actual workouts. All of this "extra" activity counts and earns me more food, and I've steadily lost weight this way and am VERY close to goal. The key is separating every day activity from what is new/additional/extra.0 -
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It's a good thing I don't log sex...multiple entries a day.0
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