Calories burnt doing household chores
Pcarsley
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I wondered about calorie burn doing housework?
Say, 40 mins moderate to vigorous continuous effort ( vacuuming stairs, cleaning bath etc)
Say, 40 mins moderate to vigorous continuous effort ( vacuuming stairs, cleaning bath etc)
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Unless it goes above and beyond what you normally do, don't log it. It's already accounted for in your day-to-day activity.0
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Housework is not exercise. I wouldn't log it. That is part of your regular activity.0
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I wouldn't count/log housework calorie burns.0
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I don't believe in logging cleaning as exercise. Unless you're cleaning now and didn't in the past, it should be considered part of your daily activities and not exercise.0
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Ok, thanks
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I set my activity level as Sedentary and do log cooking and cleaning. I don't eat back all my exercise calories - many people here suggest you only eat back 50% of the calories you earn from exercise. I'm consistently losing a pound per week.
Cooking and cleaning are in the Exercise > Cardio database.0 -
I always log my cleaning as exercise. Even if it is a part of your normal routine I like being able to see it. Plus I work a desk job for 8 hours 5 days a week so to me it's worth logging. But each their own.0
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Don't log it. If you do, don't eat it back.
I saw someone log 800+ calories for gardening 45 minutes the other day. Then they complain they're not losing.0 -
Contrary to most, I DO log all of my activity, because I have my activity level set as sedentary. I also track my steps, and this motivates me to get up and move around as much as possible at my desk job.0
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I dont log it. I did cleaning while getting fat so doing it now isnt helping me get slim0
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The problem with logging normal housework is that those calories are already accounted for as NEAT calories when MFP gives you your goal. Your MFP goal is:
BMR + NEAT - caloric deficit calories
BMR = basal metabolic rate, the calories it takes to keep you alive at the most basic level. If you were in a coma, lying in bed all day, you would burn just your BMR calories
NEAT = non-exercise activity thermogenesis, the calories it takes to live your everyday life outside of exercise and your basic functions. This includes fidgeting, walking to work, opening your mail, washing dishes, etc.
Caloric deficit calories = 1 pound of fat is approximately equal to 3500 calories. To lose a pound a week, you would want to eat 3500 fewer calories per week, or 500 fewer calories per day. This figure moves up or down depending on how many pounds per week you tell MFP that you would like to lose.
As with any calorie calculator, MFP's numbers are best estimates. They will never be right on the mark, so you may have to tweak your calories after a few weeks. Knowingly choosing to double count NEAT activity as exercise activity is more likely to get you in a spot where you are not losing, or not losing as quickly as you would like.0 -
I only try to log things that are (a) above and beyond what I would consider normal part of my daily life, and also (b) done continuously with a raised heart rate.
So If you don't normally garden, and you spend a solid 45 minutes hauling in large containers of plants, digging holes for them, planting them, hauling in scoops or bags of bark dust, and distributing it, then yeah, that would count in my book. If you spend half an hour gardening while sitting in one place and tending your plants, and you do that on the regular, then no, I personally wouldn't log it.
Likewise if you spend two hours lifting heavy boxes out of your garage or bringing them down from your attic storage, on your feet, organizing, tagging things for a garage sale, etc etc, then yep. Daily work doing laundry and dishes, nah. Then again, I don't eat more than 10% of my exercise calories if I can at all help it, because I know MFP overestimates like whoa.0 -
OP - whether you log it or not it's up to you. But if seeing the estimated number gets you off the coach more, fine. Your MFP settings are at least sedentary.....that's < 5,000 steps (not zero).
But, if your goal is to add deliberate exercise as a lifestyle change or to become a more fit person cleaning won't get you to your goal.
I use a FitBit One, it will do calorie adjustments when comparing against sedentary. I can see days where I have been lazy. But, exercise is a separate thing for me. If I don't consciously make the effort to include deliberate exercise I won't do it. It all depends upon your goals.0 -
Ready2Rock206 wrote: »Housework is not exercise. I wouldn't log it. That is part of your regular activity.
I believe this is up to the individual.0 -
Contrary to most, I DO log all of my activity, because I have my activity level set as sedentary. I also track my steps, and this motivates me to get up and move around as much as possible at my desk job.
BMR is if you stayed in bed all day.......Sedentary is higher than that.
Steps for different activity levels:
http://www.fitnessforweightloss.com/rate-your-activity-level-based-on-steps-per-day/0 -
Each their own. My philosophy is I was cleaning when i was fat (still working on that), I was also walking up and down a very steep hill for 30 minutes every day to drop my son in daycare and I was still fat and then I walked 40 minutes between daycare and work and still I was fat. I don't log any of that. I only count the new stuff I do, the extra exercise, the extra walking, what makes my heart pump faster. Whatever was in my routine in the past, I don't count as exercise now. As human we have this tendency to under-estimate how much we eat and over estimate what we burn. To stay on the safe side and help create my deficit I would rather not log those <exercise> that are part of my daily routine to level out with my most probably slightly under-estimated caloric intake.0
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The problem with logging normal housework is that those calories are already accounted for as NEAT calories when MFP gives you your goal. Your MFP goal is:
BMR + NEAT - caloric deficit calories
BMR = basal metabolic rate, the calories it takes to keep you alive at the most basic level. If you were in a coma, lying in bed all day, you would burn just your BMR calories
NEAT = non-exercise activity thermogenesis, the calories it takes to live your everyday life outside of exercise and your basic functions. This includes fidgeting, walking to work, opening your mail, washing dishes, etc.
Caloric deficit calories = 1 pound of fat is approximately equal to 3500 calories. To lose a pound a week, you would want to eat 3500 fewer calories per week, or 500 fewer calories per day. This figure moves up or down depending on how many pounds per week you tell MFP that you would like to lose.
As with any calorie calculator, MFP's numbers are best estimates. They will never be right on the mark, so you may have to tweak your calories after a few weeks. Knowingly choosing to double count NEAT activity as exercise activity is more likely to get you in a spot where you are not losing, or not losing as quickly as you would like.
This sounds logical but where do you see it? I just see:
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kshama2001 wrote: »The problem with logging normal housework is that those calories are already accounted for as NEAT calories when MFP gives you your goal. Your MFP goal is:
BMR + NEAT - caloric deficit calories
BMR = basal metabolic rate, the calories it takes to keep you alive at the most basic level. If you were in a coma, lying in bed all day, you would burn just your BMR calories
NEAT = non-exercise activity thermogenesis, the calories it takes to live your everyday life outside of exercise and your basic functions. This includes fidgeting, walking to work, opening your mail, washing dishes, etc.
Caloric deficit calories = 1 pound of fat is approximately equal to 3500 calories. To lose a pound a week, you would want to eat 3500 fewer calories per week, or 500 fewer calories per day. This figure moves up or down depending on how many pounds per week you tell MFP that you would like to lose.
As with any calorie calculator, MFP's numbers are best estimates. They will never be right on the mark, so you may have to tweak your calories after a few weeks. Knowingly choosing to double count NEAT activity as exercise activity is more likely to get you in a spot where you are not losing, or not losing as quickly as you would like.
This sounds logical but where do you see it? I just see:
Where do I see what?0 -
I log half of it if my honey do list keeps me busy for 4 hours or more. As I'm on my feet going up and down the stairs, moving stuff around, etc. I think they count. This only happens once or twice a month.
But I don't count the daily 30-60 minutes of daily household chores I do.0 -
People who log things like housework and cooking as extra calorie-burning exercise are only fooling themselves, IMO.
Your body isn't fooled though.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »The problem with logging normal housework is that those calories are already accounted for as NEAT calories when MFP gives you your goal. Your MFP goal is:
BMR + NEAT - caloric deficit calories
BMR = basal metabolic rate, the calories it takes to keep you alive at the most basic level. If you were in a coma, lying in bed all day, you would burn just your BMR calories
NEAT = non-exercise activity thermogenesis, the calories it takes to live your everyday life outside of exercise and your basic functions. This includes fidgeting, walking to work, opening your mail, washing dishes, etc.
Caloric deficit calories = 1 pound of fat is approximately equal to 3500 calories. To lose a pound a week, you would want to eat 3500 fewer calories per week, or 500 fewer calories per day. This figure moves up or down depending on how many pounds per week you tell MFP that you would like to lose.
As with any calorie calculator, MFP's numbers are best estimates. They will never be right on the mark, so you may have to tweak your calories after a few weeks. Knowingly choosing to double count NEAT activity as exercise activity is more likely to get you in a spot where you are not losing, or not losing as quickly as you would like.
This sounds logical but where do you see it? I just see:
Where do I see what?
Where do you see that "The problem with logging normal housework is that those calories are already accounted for as NEAT calories when MFP gives you your goal."
Some people don't cook or clean. They might utilize prepared food exclusively or live with someone who cooks for them and cleans for them.
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ceoverturf wrote: »People who log things like housework and cooking as extra calorie-burning exercise are only fooling themselves, IMO.
Your body isn't fooled though.
I've thought about not logging the first hour of cooking and cleaning that I do and if my weight loss stalls will revisit that.
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Even at sedentary there's an allowance for moving the equivalent of about 2000-2500 steps ..it includes general activity like cleaning house and heading to the shops0
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kshama2001 wrote: »
Some people don't cook or clean. They might utilize prepared food exclusively or live with someone who cooks for them and cleans for them.
So, since you said you do log it, are you saying you don't at least semi-regularly cook and clean?0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »The problem with logging normal housework is that those calories are already accounted for as NEAT calories when MFP gives you your goal. Your MFP goal is:
BMR + NEAT - caloric deficit calories
BMR = basal metabolic rate, the calories it takes to keep you alive at the most basic level. If you were in a coma, lying in bed all day, you would burn just your BMR calories
NEAT = non-exercise activity thermogenesis, the calories it takes to live your everyday life outside of exercise and your basic functions. This includes fidgeting, walking to work, opening your mail, washing dishes, etc.
Caloric deficit calories = 1 pound of fat is approximately equal to 3500 calories. To lose a pound a week, you would want to eat 3500 fewer calories per week, or 500 fewer calories per day. This figure moves up or down depending on how many pounds per week you tell MFP that you would like to lose.
As with any calorie calculator, MFP's numbers are best estimates. They will never be right on the mark, so you may have to tweak your calories after a few weeks. Knowingly choosing to double count NEAT activity as exercise activity is more likely to get you in a spot where you are not losing, or not losing as quickly as you would like.
This sounds logical but where do you see it? I just see:
Where do I see what?
Where do you see that "The problem with logging normal housework is that those calories are already accounted for as NEAT calories when MFP gives you your goal."
Some people don't cook or clean. They might utilize prepared food exclusively or live with someone who cooks for them and cleans for them.
The MFP calorie goal is based on the NEAT method. NEAT is all non-exercise activity energy expenditure and non-BMR energy expenditure. That's the very definition of NEAT. It doesn't matter that some people don't cook or clean. There are NEAT-type activities that I do that my neighbors don't do but that doesn't mean that if they started doing them they'd be exercise. Examples: trimming my dogs' nails and cleaning the yard up after them, carrying milk bottles up and down the basement stairs, etc. I could see eating a bit more after spending the day doing very heavy cleaning, but I'm talking heavy enough that it is a rare occurrence. Dusting the shelves and mopping the floor though? Nope.0 -
ceoverturf wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »
Some people don't cook or clean. They might utilize prepared food exclusively or live with someone who cooks for them and cleans for them.
So, since you said you do log it, are you saying you don't at least semi-regularly cook and clean?
No, I'm asking how do you know cooking and cleaning is included in the definition of Sedentary? All I see is Spend most of the day sitting (e.g. bank teller, desk job)
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Per this article
1) <5000 steps.d (sedentary);
2) 5000-7499 steps.d (low active);
3) 7500-9999 steps.d (somewhat active);
4) > or =10,000-12,499 steps.d (active); and
5) > or =12,500 steps.d (highly active)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14715035
So I get about 5k steps doing my weekly cleaning...2-3 hours. Laundry, scrubbing, bathroom etc...I don't log it.
I feel if your house is dirty enough to break a sweat cleaning it you don't deserve to eat back the calories from cleaning it...that is your punishment.
And to be frank if I see someone logging cleaning on my FL...they are removed. I want serious people on my FL...those who are honest with themselves about their true goals and if you are logging cleaning...that's not you.
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kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »The problem with logging normal housework is that those calories are already accounted for as NEAT calories when MFP gives you your goal. Your MFP goal is:
BMR + NEAT - caloric deficit calories
BMR = basal metabolic rate, the calories it takes to keep you alive at the most basic level. If you were in a coma, lying in bed all day, you would burn just your BMR calories
NEAT = non-exercise activity thermogenesis, the calories it takes to live your everyday life outside of exercise and your basic functions. This includes fidgeting, walking to work, opening your mail, washing dishes, etc.
Caloric deficit calories = 1 pound of fat is approximately equal to 3500 calories. To lose a pound a week, you would want to eat 3500 fewer calories per week, or 500 fewer calories per day. This figure moves up or down depending on how many pounds per week you tell MFP that you would like to lose.
As with any calorie calculator, MFP's numbers are best estimates. They will never be right on the mark, so you may have to tweak your calories after a few weeks. Knowingly choosing to double count NEAT activity as exercise activity is more likely to get you in a spot where you are not losing, or not losing as quickly as you would like.
This sounds logical but where do you see it? I just see:
Where do I see what?
Where do you see that "The problem with logging normal housework is that those calories are already accounted for as NEAT calories when MFP gives you your goal."
Some people don't cook or clean. They might utilize prepared food exclusively or live with someone who cooks for them and cleans for them.
Then they don't have to worry about logging it then....0 -
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Even at sedentary there's an allowance for moving the equivalent of about 2000-2500 steps ..it includes general activity like cleaning house and heading to the shops
Again, this sounds quite logical but I'd be happier if someone would provide a link to someplace (not user generated )on MPF that says this.
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