Calories burnt doing household chores
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kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »
Because logging food matters, vigorously scrubbing a toilet doesn't
Also, food is such an easily and quickly measured thing, every little activity is not. I mean, where do you stop? What will you count? Whatever...like I said, I'm sure I have hobbies others would think are an odd use of time.
I have a timer on my watch that I use when I stop and start everything but sex. (I think I've actually forgotten to log sex for some time.)
Everything?
What about using the bathroom?
Better yet, do you measure/weigh everything you void? I remember seeing something like that on an episode of Law & Order when the victim had an eating disorder.
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Contrary to most, I DO log all of my activity, because I have my activity level set as sedentary. I also track my steps, and this motivates me to get up and move around as much as possible at my desk job.
BMR is if you stayed in bed all day.......Sedentary is higher than that.
Steps for different activity levels:
http://www.fitnessforweightloss.com/rate-your-activity-level-based-on-steps-per-day/
Oh, how interesting. I call myself lightly active, but according to your link I'd be well over highly active (when not injured).
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kshama2001 wrote: »
Because logging food matters, vigorously scrubbing a toilet doesn't
So CI is critical to <1% but CO doesn't matter. Weird religion this.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »
Because logging food matters, vigorously scrubbing a toilet doesn't
So CI is critical to <1% but CO doesn't matter. Weird religion this.
The point is exactly that CO matters.
Scrubbing toilets is included in the calculation already. People are double dipping.
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kshama2001 wrote: »
Because logging food matters, vigorously scrubbing a toilet doesn't
So CI is critical to <1% but CO doesn't matter. Weird religion this.
I think it would be if you were on the "trying to gain weight" side of the fence rather that the "trying to lose weight" side...
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kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »
Because logging food matters, vigorously scrubbing a toilet doesn't
Also, food is such an easily and quickly measured thing, every little activity is not. I mean, where do you stop? What will you count? Whatever...like I said, I'm sure I have hobbies others would think are an odd use of time.
I have a timer on my watch that I use when I stop and start everything but sex. (I think I've actually forgotten to log sex for some time.)
Everything?
What about using the bathroom?
Everything meaning activities in the MFP cardiovascular exercise database like cooking, cleaning, gardening, walking, yoga, swimming, etc.
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kshama2001 wrote: »Last time I was in the gym, I didn't see any kitchens or vacuum cleaners.
One does not need a gym to lose weight or be fit. My mom eats like a horse but is one pound away from being underweight due to her burn from gardening and maintaining a 200 year old house. And cooking and cleaning!
do you live with her? do you measure her food...you may think she eats like a horse but she probably doesn't...
I garden, maintain a house, have tonnes of flower beds (no tiller until last year) they were all dug by hand, a child and fairly active life making most of my food from scratch...I was not under weight..
I watched my own mother raise 7 kinds in a 200 yo house, garden mow an acre by pushing and maintain flower beds etc...she was over weight...don't give me that.
I lived with her in 2011, yes. Maybe it's all that organic food made from scratch she eats :P
Look, this was clearly meant to be an anecdote to rebut the notion that you need a gym in order to be fit.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »
Because logging food matters, vigorously scrubbing a toilet doesn't
Also, food is such an easily and quickly measured thing, every little activity is not. I mean, where do you stop? What will you count? Whatever...like I said, I'm sure I have hobbies others would think are an odd use of time.
I have a timer on my watch that I use when I stop and start everything but sex. (I think I've actually forgotten to log sex for some time.)
Everything?
What about using the bathroom?
Some call that heavy lifting.0 -
Personally, I do not log regular, day-to-day cleaning. However - when I spend two or more hours scrubbing walls, windows, and ceilings, you bet I'll log it! If my arms are sore the next day, it's exercise!!! :-)0
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kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Last time I was in the gym, I didn't see any kitchens or vacuum cleaners.
One does not need a gym to lose weight or be fit. My mom eats like a horse but is one pound away from being underweight due to her burn from gardening and maintaining a 200 year old house. And cooking and cleaning!
do you live with her? do you measure her food...you may think she eats like a horse but she probably doesn't...
I garden, maintain a house, have tonnes of flower beds (no tiller until last year) they were all dug by hand, a child and fairly active life making most of my food from scratch...I was not under weight..
I watched my own mother raise 7 kinds in a 200 yo house, garden mow an acre by pushing and maintain flower beds etc...she was over weight...don't give me that.
I lived with her in 2011, yes. Maybe it's all that organic food made from scratch she eats :P
Look, this was clearly meant to be an anecdote to rebut the notion that you need a gym in order to be fit.
sounded more like another reason you should log cooking/cleaning....
and there was no anecdote about having to go to the gym to be fit..the comment was I don't see x at my gym...0 -
Therealobi1 wrote: »
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I wish everyone success with whatever approach they are taking, and with that – I bid you all adieu from this thread.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »
Because logging food matters, vigorously scrubbing a toilet doesn't
So CI is critical to <1% but CO doesn't matter. Weird religion this.
Exactly.
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flyingtanuki wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »
Because logging food matters, vigorously scrubbing a toilet doesn't
So CI is critical to <1% but CO doesn't matter. Weird religion this.
Because obviously no food has been included in the MFP baseline calorie goal, but some light level of activity has. Rather trivial point, actually.
I would also add that there is a higher probability of somewhat accurate estimation on the CI side. Trying to account for margin of error in individual daily activities when tracking CO, well that just makes my head hurt.0 -
PeachyCarol wrote: »
Who are these marathoners they're surveying to come up with six minutes?You may not be getting quite as good of a workout between the sheets as you think. According to a study conducted by the New England Journal of Medicine, sex lasts six minutes on average and only burns about 21 calories.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Last time I was in the gym, I didn't see any kitchens or vacuum cleaners.
One does not need a gym to lose weight or be fit. My mom eats like a horse but is one pound away from being underweight due to her burn from gardening and maintaining a 200 year old house. And cooking and cleaning!
do you live with her? do you measure her food...you may think she eats like a horse but she probably doesn't...
I garden, maintain a house, have tonnes of flower beds (no tiller until last year) they were all dug by hand, a child and fairly active life making most of my food from scratch...I was not under weight..
I watched my own mother raise 7 kinds in a 200 yo house, garden mow an acre by pushing and maintain flower beds etc...she was over weight...don't give me that.
I lived with her in 2011, yes. Maybe it's all that organic food made from scratch she eats :P
Look, this was clearly meant to be an anecdote to rebut the notion that you need a gym in order to be fit.
sounded more like another reason you should log cooking/cleaning....
and there was no anecdote about having to go to the gym to be fit..the comment was I don't see x at my gym...
I brought my mom into this after this comment:Last time I was in the gym, I didn't see any kitchens or vacuum cleaners.
Which to me implies you need a gym to be fit. @Serah87 will correct me if that's not what she meant.0 -
mantium999 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »
Because logging food matters, vigorously scrubbing a toilet doesn't
Also, food is such an easily and quickly measured thing, every little activity is not. I mean, where do you stop? What will you count? Whatever...like I said, I'm sure I have hobbies others would think are an odd use of time.
I have a timer on my watch that I use when I stop and start everything but sex. (I think I've actually forgotten to log sex for some time.)
Everything?
What about using the bathroom?
Some call that heavy lifting.
If using the bathroom is heavy lifting for you, whoever has to clean it should be allowed to log cleaning.0 -
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flyingtanuki wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »
Because logging food matters, vigorously scrubbing a toilet doesn't
Also, food is such an easily and quickly measured thing, every little activity is not. I mean, where do you stop? What will you count? Whatever...like I said, I'm sure I have hobbies others would think are an odd use of time.
I have a timer on my watch that I use when I stop and start everything but sex. (I think I've actually forgotten to log sex for some time.)
Sorry to hear it.
Oh, I'm HAVING sex, just forgetting to log it
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kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Last time I was in the gym, I didn't see any kitchens or vacuum cleaners.
One does not need a gym to lose weight or be fit. My mom eats like a horse but is one pound away from being underweight due to her burn from gardening and maintaining a 200 year old house. And cooking and cleaning!
do you live with her? do you measure her food...you may think she eats like a horse but she probably doesn't...
I garden, maintain a house, have tonnes of flower beds (no tiller until last year) they were all dug by hand, a child and fairly active life making most of my food from scratch...I was not under weight..
I watched my own mother raise 7 kinds in a 200 yo house, garden mow an acre by pushing and maintain flower beds etc...she was over weight...don't give me that.
I lived with her in 2011, yes. Maybe it's all that organic food made from scratch she eats :P
Look, this was clearly meant to be an anecdote to rebut the notion that you need a gym in order to be fit.
sounded more like another reason you should log cooking/cleaning....
and there was no anecdote about having to go to the gym to be fit..the comment was I don't see x at my gym...
I brought my mom into this after this comment:Last time I was in the gym, I didn't see any kitchens or vacuum cleaners.
Which to me implies you need a gym to be fit. @Serah87 will correct me if that's not what she meant.
No, it just means that cleaning and cooking are NOT an exercise!!0 -
Well, let's start integrating Japanese toilets that measure elimination amounts too while we're at it. Then we're Just a few steps removed from living in a metabolic chamber.kshama2001 wrote: »
Because logging food matters, vigorously scrubbing a toilet doesn't
So CI is critical to <1% but CO doesn't matter. Weird religion this.
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kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Last time I was in the gym, I didn't see any kitchens or vacuum cleaners.
One does not need a gym to lose weight or be fit. My mom eats like a horse but is one pound away from being underweight due to her burn from gardening and maintaining a 200 year old house. And cooking and cleaning!
do you live with her? do you measure her food...you may think she eats like a horse but she probably doesn't...
I garden, maintain a house, have tonnes of flower beds (no tiller until last year) they were all dug by hand, a child and fairly active life making most of my food from scratch...I was not under weight..
I watched my own mother raise 7 kinds in a 200 yo house, garden mow an acre by pushing and maintain flower beds etc...she was over weight...don't give me that.
I lived with her in 2011, yes. Maybe it's all that organic food made from scratch she eats :P
Look, this was clearly meant to be an anecdote to rebut the notion that you need a gym in order to be fit.
sounded more like another reason you should log cooking/cleaning....
and there was no anecdote about having to go to the gym to be fit..the comment was I don't see x at my gym...
I brought my mom into this after this comment:Last time I was in the gym, I didn't see any kitchens or vacuum cleaners.
Which to me implies you need a gym to be fit. @Serah87 will correct me if that's not what she meant.
No, it just means that cleaning and cooking are NOT an exercise!!
The MFP Exercise database says cooking and cleaning are so exercise:
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kshama2001 wrote: »
Because logging food matters, vigorously scrubbing a toilet doesn't
So CI is critical to <1% but CO doesn't matter. Weird religion this.
Calories out is harder to calculate than calories in.
I can weigh my chicken to the gram, but I can't know for sure I burned 8,457 calories dusting.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Last time I was in the gym, I didn't see any kitchens or vacuum cleaners.
One does not need a gym to lose weight or be fit. My mom eats like a horse but is one pound away from being underweight due to her burn from gardening and maintaining a 200 year old house. And cooking and cleaning!
do you live with her? do you measure her food...you may think she eats like a horse but she probably doesn't...
I garden, maintain a house, have tonnes of flower beds (no tiller until last year) they were all dug by hand, a child and fairly active life making most of my food from scratch...I was not under weight..
I watched my own mother raise 7 kinds in a 200 yo house, garden mow an acre by pushing and maintain flower beds etc...she was over weight...don't give me that.
I lived with her in 2011, yes. Maybe it's all that organic food made from scratch she eats :P
Look, this was clearly meant to be an anecdote to rebut the notion that you need a gym in order to be fit.
sounded more like another reason you should log cooking/cleaning....
and there was no anecdote about having to go to the gym to be fit..the comment was I don't see x at my gym...
I brought my mom into this after this comment:Last time I was in the gym, I didn't see any kitchens or vacuum cleaners.
Which to me implies you need a gym to be fit. @Serah87 will correct me if that's not what she meant.
No, it just means that cleaning and cooking are NOT an exercise!!
The MFP Exercise database says cooking and cleaning are so exercise:
It also lists "Music playing, piano, organ, violin, trumpet", "mild stretching", and "mowing the lawn - riding mower".
Not sure those really count either...0 -
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