Calories burnt doing household chores
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asflatasapancake wrote: »What are these "household chores" and "housework" that you speak of?
Thank you.
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kshama2001 wrote: »ceoverturf wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »
Some people don't cook or clean. They might utilize prepared food exclusively or live with someone who cooks for them and cleans for them.
So, since you said you do log it, are you saying you don't at least semi-regularly cook and clean?
No, I'm asking how do you know cooking and cleaning is included in the definition of Sedentary? All I see is Spend most of the day sitting (e.g. bank teller, desk job)
Are you under the impression there's a significant portion of the population that spends 24 hours a day doing absolutely nothing but sitting at a desk job?
Those descriptions differentiate between what people do for their working hours, but all assume they are going to walk to the restroom, cook, do laundry, talk on the telephone and clean their house.0 -
Per this article
1) <5000 steps.d (sedentary);
2) 5000-7499 steps.d (low active);
3) 7500-9999 steps.d (somewhat active);
4) > or =10,000-12,499 steps.d (active); and
5) > or =12,500 steps.d (highly active)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14715035
So I get about 5k steps doing my weekly cleaning...2-3 hours. Laundry, scrubbing, bathroom etc...I don't log it.
I feel if your house is dirty enough to break a sweat cleaning it you don't deserve to eat back the calories from cleaning it...that is your punishment.
And to be frank if I see someone logging cleaning on my FL...they are removed. I want serious people on my FL...those who are honest with themselves about their true goals and if you are logging cleaning...that's not you.
IMO
I think when you are here long enough you see that logging exercise is clutching at straws but think it's OTT to write them off like that. I confess to logging cleaning when I first started out but didn't mean I wasn't serious.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Even at sedentary there's an allowance for moving the equivalent of about 2000-2500 steps ..it includes general activity like cleaning house and heading to the shops
Again, this sounds quite logical but I'd be happier if someone would provide a link to someplace (not user generated )on MPF that says this.
I did it's above....0 -
ceoverturf wrote: »People who log things like housework and cooking as extra calorie-burning exercise are only fooling themselves, IMO.
Your body isn't fooled though.
I agree with this. And I am set to sedentary.0 -
I feel if your house is dirty enough to break a sweat cleaning it you don't deserve to eat back the calories from cleaning it...that is your punishment.
That made me laugh
I might eat a bit extra if I do something like spend the day cleaning out the attic and moving things all around but I don't think I'd ever actually log it. Just like I don't log brushing my teeth, combing my hair, opening my mail, filling up my car with gas, tying my shoes, grocery shopping, etc. despite them not being listed in the description for sedentary behavior.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Even at sedentary there's an allowance for moving the equivalent of about 2000-2500 steps ..it includes general activity like cleaning house and heading to the shops
Again, this sounds quite logical but I'd be happier if someone would provide a link to someplace (not user generated )on MPF that says this.
Fitbit deducts calories from MFP until I reach about 2700 steps. It is not written anywhere that I can see, but it is a safe assumption that would be the amount I need to reach MFP's sedentary goal.
For example this morning I went grocery shopping to Costco, parked far away, showered, made breakfast, did the dishes and laundry, went to the Post Office, opened mail, packed two parcels, and have only walked 1649 steps. Currently Fitbit is saying MFP is still giving me an extra 79 calories I don't deserve.
On long work days where I sit most of the time I am awake (around 1000 steps in a day), it deducts about 200 calories from MFP. This is proof enough to me that MFP's sedentary is including an assumed moderate amount of activity in a day that some (like me) might not get without doing extra exercise. Though I certainly enjoy eating the extra calories when I turn the Fitbit negative adjustment off and would enjoy eating the extra calories I would gain by logging cleaning/cooking/showering/any life activity.
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Thanks @RunRachelleRun0
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Thanks all. Just curious, nothing more. I'm actually reasonably healthy but wanting to tone up a little and maintain a healthy weight and I'll be honest look and feel a little better. I have my vices, quite a few beers at weekends etc but try to do the right thing 80% of the time. Today I did about 40 mins of vigorous chores which left me feeling as if I had trained in the gym ( i do tend to rush around) so thought the question was worth asking.
I've only been doing this for a week so still getting to grips with it. I started as staff in my gym suggested that I may not be consuming enough calories for the level of exercise (4-5 90 min sessions including running, rowing on alternate nights and other CV stuff and strength training). I typically burn an estimated 800 kcal while consuming around 1800. In the last two years I have dropped from 20st to 16st 4lbs and 42" down to 36", I run 10km in under 60 mins 2/3 times per week. I am a bit obsessive, admittedly.0 -
When I think of exercise, cleaning or cooking does not come to my mind.0
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Like I said I do tend to go at it somewhat and work up a sweat!0
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ceoverturf wrote: »People who log things like housework and cooking as extra calorie-burning exercise are only fooling themselves, IMO.
Your body isn't fooled though.
Agree wholeheartedly.
Logging cleaning strikes me as Fat Logic. What is the purpose? So you have extra calories at dinner? Better to leave your numbers in the red and underestimate your activity so that if you stop losing, you can see why at a glance.
Then again, I don't let my house get so dirty that I'm doing anything truly vigorous most of the time. I don't think mopping floors is burning many more calories than walking across an office or out to a parking lot.0 -
I live in the same county and I broke a sweat hauling in the trash cans yesterday what do you mean that's not vigorous cleaning0 -
barbecuesauce wrote: »ceoverturf wrote: »People who log things like housework and cooking as extra calorie-burning exercise are only fooling themselves, IMO.
Your body isn't fooled though.
Agree wholeheartedly.
Logging cleaning strikes me as Fat Logic. What is the purpose? So you have extra calories at dinner? Better to leave your numbers in the red and underestimate your activity so that if you stop losing, you can see why at a glance.
Then again, I don't let my house get so dirty that I'm doing anything truly vigorous most of the time. I don't think mopping floors is burning many more calories than walking across an office or out to a parking lot.
Actually no. But thanks anyway. Just curious, that's all. This was a particularly thorough clean, I don't do that everyday. I do occasionally have the odd treat if I've done a particularly hard gym session, but sensible about it. All except rare occasions recently where I've been celebrating I have not reached my calorie allowance at all.0 -
http://www.shape.com/weight-loss/weight-loss-strategies/spring-cleaning-how-many-calories-do-you-burn-doing-chores
Mind you, it's Shape so they probably recommend tricep extensions to get rid of bingo wings.
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Per this article
1) <5000 steps.d (sedentary);
2) 5000-7499 steps.d (low active);
3) 7500-9999 steps.d (somewhat active);
4) > or =10,000-12,499 steps.d (active); and
5) > or =12,500 steps.d (highly active)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14715035
So I get about 5k steps doing my weekly cleaning...2-3 hours. Laundry, scrubbing, bathroom etc...I don't log it.
I feel if your house is dirty enough to break a sweat cleaning it you don't deserve to eat back the calories from cleaning it...that is your punishment.
And to be frank if I see someone logging cleaning on my FL...they are removed. I want serious people on my FL...those who are honest with themselves about their true goals and if you are logging cleaning...that's not you.
IMO
OMG. I am amazed that you really think it's your business what people on your FL log as exercise. Now I see why some people keep their diaries private! WOW.
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Contrary to most, I DO log all of my activity, because I have my activity level set as sedentary. I also track my steps, and this motivates me to get up and move around as much as possible at my desk job.
BMR is if you stayed in bed all day.......Sedentary is higher than that.
Steps for different activity levels:
http://www.fitnessforweightloss.com/rate-your-activity-level-based-on-steps-per-day/
I don't usually walk around much when I'm at work. I am at a desk most of the the day. On my days off I get significantly more activity/movement, due to cleaning, grocery shopping, etc. I don't log all of that, but I do log my steps. This motivates me to get in more steps, by talking a walk on my lunch break, getting up every 30 min or so to walk around the building, etc. It works for me, so who's to say I'm wrong?0 -
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Per this article
1) <5000 steps.d (sedentary);
2) 5000-7499 steps.d (low active);
3) 7500-9999 steps.d (somewhat active);
4) > or =10,000-12,499 steps.d (active); and
5) > or =12,500 steps.d (highly active)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14715035
So I get about 5k steps doing my weekly cleaning...2-3 hours. Laundry, scrubbing, bathroom etc...I don't log it.
I feel if your house is dirty enough to break a sweat cleaning it you don't deserve to eat back the calories from cleaning it...that is your punishment.
And to be frank if I see someone logging cleaning on my FL...they are removed. I want serious people on my FL...those who are honest with themselves about their true goals and if you are logging cleaning...that's not you.
IMO
OMG. I am amazed that you really think it's your business what people on your FL log as exercise. Now I see why some people keep their diaries private! WOW.
The point is people who do that kind of thing are probably not going to make it ...and if you surround yourself with successful approaches from people who are succeeding you remain motivated and focused to achieve your goals
She's not saying it's her business, she's saying she doesn't want their modus operandi to affect her0 -
Household chores are normal daily activity and already accounted for, thus to claim them would be double dipping.
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Per this article
1) <5000 steps.d (sedentary);
2) 5000-7499 steps.d (low active);
3) 7500-9999 steps.d (somewhat active);
4) > or =10,000-12,499 steps.d (active); and
5) > or =12,500 steps.d (highly active)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14715035
So I get about 5k steps doing my weekly cleaning...2-3 hours. Laundry, scrubbing, bathroom etc...I don't log it.
I feel if your house is dirty enough to break a sweat cleaning it you don't deserve to eat back the calories from cleaning it...that is your punishment.
And to be frank if I see someone logging cleaning on my FL...they are removed. I want serious people on my FL...those who are honest with themselves about their true goals and if you are logging cleaning...that's not you.
IMO
OMG. I am amazed that you really think it's your business what people on your FL log as exercise. Now I see why some people keep their diaries private! WOW.
The point is people who do that kind of thing are probably not going to make it ...and if you surround yourself with successful approaches from people who are succeeding you remain motivated and focused to achieve your goals
She's not saying it's her business, she's saying she doesn't want their modus operandi to affect her
I've lost 35 pounds so far, but I guess I'm not "successful" enough.0 -
Istrong_curves wrote: »Per this article
1) <5000 steps.d (sedentary);
2) 5000-7499 steps.d (low active);
3) 7500-9999 steps.d (somewhat active);
4) > or =10,000-12,499 steps.d (active); and
5) > or =12,500 steps.d (highly active)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14715035
So I get about 5k steps doing my weekly cleaning...2-3 hours. Laundry, scrubbing, bathroom etc...I don't log it.
I feel if your house is dirty enough to break a sweat cleaning it you don't deserve to eat back the calories from cleaning it...that is your punishment.
And to be frank if I see someone logging cleaning on my FL...they are removed. I want serious people on my FL...those who are honest with themselves about their true goals and if you are logging cleaning...that's not you.
IMO
OMG. I am amazed that you really think it's your business what people on your FL log as exercise. Now I see why some people keep their diaries private! WOW.
The point is people who do that kind of thing are probably not going to make it ...and if you surround yourself with successful approaches from people who are succeeding you remain motivated and focused to achieve your goals
She's not saying it's her business, she's saying she doesn't want their modus operandi to affect her
That's not true. I did it when i started out. Saw later it didn't mske sense and then started to find real exercises. Hanging around and seeing what others do is the correction that is needed.0 -
Contrary to most, I DO log all of my activity, because I have my activity level set as sedentary. I also track my steps, and this motivates me to get up and move around as much as possible at my desk job.
BMR is if you stayed in bed all day.......Sedentary is higher than that.
Steps for different activity levels:
http://www.fitnessforweightloss.com/rate-your-activity-level-based-on-steps-per-day/
I don't usually walk around much when I'm at work. I am at a desk most of the the day. On my days off I get significantly more activity/movement, due to cleaning, grocery shopping, etc. I don't log all of that, but I do log my steps. This motivates me to get in more steps, by talking a walk on my lunch break, getting up every 30 min or so to walk around the building, etc. It works for me, so who's to say I'm wrong?
There's a lot that I do wrt my tracking and weight loss that I don't recommend for others, due to the fact that it is based on my own personal experience with my own body. In general, I find that giving advice in a standard way (i.e., MFP is based on the NEAT method which means XYZ) is, for newbies, more helpful because then it gives them a base setting to work from. They can always adjust their calorie goal up or down from there. But if I told a newbie 40 hour sit in a chair office worker to set his/her activity setting to lightly active and that even then then his/her calorie goal would be around 250 less than actual, all because that is what works for me, I would be giving bad advice because, again, that advice is what works for my body, not for the population at large.0 -
Per this article
1) <5000 steps.d (sedentary);
2) 5000-7499 steps.d (low active);
3) 7500-9999 steps.d (somewhat active);
4) > or =10,000-12,499 steps.d (active); and
5) > or =12,500 steps.d (highly active)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14715035
So I get about 5k steps doing my weekly cleaning...2-3 hours. Laundry, scrubbing, bathroom etc...I don't log it.
I feel if your house is dirty enough to break a sweat cleaning it you don't deserve to eat back the calories from cleaning it...that is your punishment.
And to be frank if I see someone logging cleaning on my FL...they are removed. I want serious people on my FL...those who are honest with themselves about their true goals and if you are logging cleaning...that's not you.
IMO
OMG. I am amazed that you really think it's your business what people on your FL log as exercise. Now I see why some people keep their diaries private! WOW.
The point is people who do that kind of thing are probably not going to make it ...and if you surround yourself with successful approaches from people who are succeeding you remain motivated and focused to achieve your goals
She's not saying it's her business, she's saying she doesn't want their modus operandi to affect her
I've lost 35 pounds so far, but I guess I'm not "successful" enough.
Huh?
But you saidContrary to most, I DO log all of my activity, because I have my activity level set as sedentary. I also track my steps, and this motivates me to get up and move around as much as possible at my desk job.
BMR is if you stayed in bed all day.......Sedentary is higher than that.
Steps for different activity levels:
http://www.fitnessforweightloss.com/rate-your-activity-level-based-on-steps-per-day/
I don't usually walk around much when I'm at work. I am at a desk most of the the day. On my days off I get significantly more activity/movement, due to cleaning, grocery shopping, etc. I don't log all of that, but I do log my steps. This motivates me to get in more steps, by talking a walk on my lunch break, getting up every 30 min or so to walk around the building, etc. It works for me, so who's to say I'm wrong?
Which means you are losing because you're moving more and logging it appropriately not because you're double dipping
I have a fitbit so all my steps are logged too...if I don't get enough it comes off my calories ...more it get more0 -
Per this article
1) <5000 steps.d (sedentary);
2) 5000-7499 steps.d (low active);
3) 7500-9999 steps.d (somewhat active);
4) > or =10,000-12,499 steps.d (active); and
5) > or =12,500 steps.d (highly active)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14715035
So I get about 5k steps doing my weekly cleaning...2-3 hours. Laundry, scrubbing, bathroom etc...I don't log it.
I feel if your house is dirty enough to break a sweat cleaning it you don't deserve to eat back the calories from cleaning it...that is your punishment.
And to be frank if I see someone logging cleaning on my FL...they are removed. I want serious people on my FL...those who are honest with themselves about their true goals and if you are logging cleaning...that's not you.
IMO
OMG. I am amazed that you really think it's your business what people on your FL log as exercise. Now I see why some people keep their diaries private! WOW.
The point is people who do that kind of thing are probably not going to make it ...and if you surround yourself with successful approaches from people who are succeeding you remain motivated and focused to achieve your goals
She's not saying it's her business, she's saying she doesn't want their modus operandi to affect her
I've lost 35 pounds so far, but I guess I'm not "successful" enough.
Huh?
But you saidContrary to most, I DO log all of my activity, because I have my activity level set as sedentary. I also track my steps, and this motivates me to get up and move around as much as possible at my desk job.
BMR is if you stayed in bed all day.......Sedentary is higher than that.
Steps for different activity levels:
http://www.fitnessforweightloss.com/rate-your-activity-level-based-on-steps-per-day/
I don't usually walk around much when I'm at work. I am at a desk most of the the day. On my days off I get significantly more activity/movement, due to cleaning, grocery shopping, etc. I don't log all of that, but I do log my steps. This motivates me to get in more steps, by talking a walk on my lunch break, getting up every 30 min or so to walk around the building, etc. It works for me, so who's to say I'm wrong?
Which means you are losing because you're moving more and logging it appropriately not because you're double dipping
I have a fitbit so all my steps are logged too...if I don't get enough it comes off my calories ...more it get more
But you were telling me I shouldn't log those steps, because they are already included in my daily activity...
I don't have a Fitbit. My phone counts my steps (when I remember to carry it), and then I add them manually to MFP.
Maybe the way I said it was confusing, but I log those steps on both the days I work and the days I am off.0 -
Per this article
1) <5000 steps.d (sedentary);
2) 5000-7499 steps.d (low active);
3) 7500-9999 steps.d (somewhat active);
4) > or =10,000-12,499 steps.d (active); and
5) > or =12,500 steps.d (highly active)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14715035
So I get about 5k steps doing my weekly cleaning...2-3 hours. Laundry, scrubbing, bathroom etc...I don't log it.
I feel if your house is dirty enough to break a sweat cleaning it you don't deserve to eat back the calories from cleaning it...that is your punishment.
And to be frank if I see someone logging cleaning on my FL...they are removed. I want serious people on my FL...those who are honest with themselves about their true goals and if you are logging cleaning...that's not you.
IMO
OMG. I am amazed that you really think it's your business what people on your FL log as exercise. Now I see why some people keep their diaries private! WOW.
Even weirder - caring enough to comment on what criteria people use to manage their own personal friend list.0 -
ceoverturf wrote: »Per this article
1) <5000 steps.d (sedentary);
2) 5000-7499 steps.d (low active);
3) 7500-9999 steps.d (somewhat active);
4) > or =10,000-12,499 steps.d (active); and
5) > or =12,500 steps.d (highly active)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14715035
So I get about 5k steps doing my weekly cleaning...2-3 hours. Laundry, scrubbing, bathroom etc...I don't log it.
I feel if your house is dirty enough to break a sweat cleaning it you don't deserve to eat back the calories from cleaning it...that is your punishment.
And to be frank if I see someone logging cleaning on my FL...they are removed. I want serious people on my FL...those who are honest with themselves about their true goals and if you are logging cleaning...that's not you.
IMO
OMG. I am amazed that you really think it's your business what people on your FL log as exercise. Now I see why some people keep their diaries private! WOW.
Even weirder - caring enough to comment on what criteria people use to manage their own personal friend list.
She felt the need to share, so I felt the need to comment. And then you felt the need to comment on my comment. So I guess we are all allowed to make our feelings known, huh? Funny how a public forum works, isn't it?0 -
ceoverturf wrote: »Per this article
1) <5000 steps.d (sedentary);
2) 5000-7499 steps.d (low active);
3) 7500-9999 steps.d (somewhat active);
4) > or =10,000-12,499 steps.d (active); and
5) > or =12,500 steps.d (highly active)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14715035
So I get about 5k steps doing my weekly cleaning...2-3 hours. Laundry, scrubbing, bathroom etc...I don't log it.
I feel if your house is dirty enough to break a sweat cleaning it you don't deserve to eat back the calories from cleaning it...that is your punishment.
And to be frank if I see someone logging cleaning on my FL...they are removed. I want serious people on my FL...those who are honest with themselves about their true goals and if you are logging cleaning...that's not you.
IMO
OMG. I am amazed that you really think it's your business what people on your FL log as exercise. Now I see why some people keep their diaries private! WOW.
Even weirder - caring enough to comment on what criteria people use to manage their own personal friend list.
It is a little OTT but as you say it's her list0 -
Well this got weird.0
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