clean eating

tennisdude2004

J72FIT wrote: »

tennisdude2004 wrote: »

If they are trying to get into a calorie deficit they are doing it because they have to - whether that be cutting a food out of their diet or limiting the portion size of their favourite foods.

If they want to reduce calories they have to make sacrifices.

Absolutely true. But that is a temporary circumstance. I go through the same thing when I am cutting. Once I get down to my weight and no longer require the deficit I can go back to including my favorite foods again. We're talking about (if I am understanding correctly) permanently eliminating foods you love...

I agree it does not make sense to eliminate the food you love - that definitely is not a sustainable eating style and not one that I would take part in.

And it's probably why diets in general have such a high failure rate. I struggle with limiting portion size and find diets that limit the amount of foods I love totally unsustainable.

Lucky for me the food I love is basically meat (all varieties). Everything else I can happily take it or leave it.

I think that is sometimes why people who are anti elimination diets are a little narrow minded and can only see life through their own eyes. Just because they love (and can't live without) cheerios in the morning doesn't mean that's how others feel about cheerios.

J72FIT

WinoGelato wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

J72FIT wrote: »

nvmomketo wrote: »

J72FIT wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

J72FIT wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

No reason? Personal choice isn't good enough?

No reason to eliminate foods you enjoy. You would not eliminate a food you enjoy because of personal choice...

Yes I would. I enjoy cheesecake. I haven't had it in years, probably decades. It's so high calorie that when presented with the opportunity, I choose not to eat it. I mean, it's just food. It's not like I'm eliminating a friend from my life.

I'm sorry but that is so sad. Why not just have it once in a while if you enjoy it? Life is too short to forgo the things we enjoy. We just can't eat as much of them as we would like to...

I don't think it is sad that someone chooses to skip a pleasant experience (cheesecake) to improve or help maintain their health. Many such choices could eventually lead to a longer and healthier life than if exceptions were made, especially if it is with trigger foods.

JMO

If it is was trigger food that would say lead to a binge, I can see eliminating with hopes to one day re-introduce once the disordered eating pattern was corrected.

That said, the comments don't imply any such trigger response so I am going under the assumption that is an elimination because one thinks these foods are inherently "unhealthy"...

It is neither really, though closer to unhealthy, as in an unhealthy amount of calories. Honestly, thinking it's sad that someone chooses not to eat a food, for whatever the reason, no matter how bizarre or misguided the reason might be or seem, seems a little absurd to me. It's just food. One single food in a world full of foods. A food someone you don't even know isn't eating. And you think it's sad. How does that make any sense?

Because if a person really enjoys something, whether it be eating cheesecake, or singing on a stage, or building birdhouses from salvaged lumber - if they stop doing one of those activities because their lifestyle doesn't accommodate it (I don't have the calories for it, I decided I was no good so I am not going to continue to sing in front of strangers, I don't have time for my hobby), then I think that is a little sad. Do I feel sorry for that person? No - they made the choice, we are all grown ups, it is up to us to choose how to make the best possible lives for ourselves. But if it is something you really enjoy and you gave it up, no matter which one of those things it was, then yes, I think that is a little sad. I would probably find a way to fit in a little cheesecake now and again, visit a karaoke bar where people are drunk and everyone else sings badly, and try to find some time for my woodworking.

That's just me. If you really don't miss the cheesecake, then I just think you probably didn't love it that much to begin with, and that's fine too.

Amen...

J72FIT

tennisdude2004 wrote: »

J72FIT wrote: »

tennisdude2004 wrote: »

If they are trying to get into a calorie deficit they are doing it because they have to - whether that be cutting a food out of their diet or limiting the portion size of their favourite foods.

If they want to reduce calories they have to make sacrifices.

Absolutely true. But that is a temporary circumstance. I go through the same thing when I am cutting. Once I get down to my weight and no longer require the deficit I can go back to including my favorite foods again. We're talking about (if I am understanding correctly) permanently eliminating foods you love...

I agree it does not make sense to eliminate the food you love - that definitely is not a sustainable eating style and not one that I would take part in.

And it's probably why diets in general have such a high failure rate. I struggle with limiting portion size and find diets that limit the amount of foods I love totally unsustainable.

Lucky for me the food I love is basically meat (all varieties). Everything else I can happily take it or leave it.

I think that is sometimes why people who are anti elimination diets are a little narrow minded and can only see life through their own eyes. Just because they love (and can't live without) cheerios in the morning doesn't mean that's how others feel about cheerios.

At the end of the day, everyone more then likely has certain foods they "can't live without..." The object of the game is to pick a diet that is in step with your individual preferences...