Fat shaming and making fun of fat people
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I'm a little burned out on the whole topic, to be perfectly honest. I think that morbid obesity is a symptom of low self esteem and issues that stem from things other than food.
I think we all need to be cognizant of who we are and how we see ourselves FIRST before how others see us.
Look in the mirror and ask -- are you happy with yourself "as is", or is there something you can change, starting today?
Stop playing the victim and start being your own hero.0 -
My system won't let me watch the video but I have coincidentally been thinking about this lately... I honestly think that there is such a DISEASE in our culture with the HUGE corporations that market unhealthy things to eat to us, and the constant brainwashing of commercials who make us believe happy healthy people eat fast food and drink tons of soda...
My 9 year old daughter just got a little "chubby" and started getting picked on in school. I have worked her whole life to make her understand how beautiful she is and it has been undone by 3rd grade boys in a few months...
I have decided to IGNORE the "Fat" comments and focus with her on "health." We are focusing on packing fruits instead of crackers and taking a walk instead of watching TV. I am talking to her about her heart, circulation, lungs, skin and hair cells and how they need the nutrition from good food as opposed to focusing on what's fattening or "bad."
It's been a few weeks in this mission and the difference is visible. Not only has she slimmed down a little (NOT MY MAIN GOAL HERE) but she feels confident again and isn't hanging her head in shame.
I wish everyone had somebody to make them feel beautiful and help them by buying healthy food and explaining how it heals the body. I know the government can't be our "parent" but I wish something could be done in the positive direction to educate people and stop the corporations from making people believe bad food is OK...0 -
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we will NOT be fat shaming and making fun of fat people in this thread?0 -
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Shamin's bad dont do shamin' kids0
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I can't watch the video at work...but I can say, if shaming worked, no one would be fat. That is all.0
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My system won't let me watch the video but I have coincidentally been thinking about this lately... I honestly think that there is such a DISEASE in our culture with the HUGE corporations that market unhealthy things to eat to us, and the constant brainwashing of commercials who make us believe happy healthy people eat fast food and drink tons of soda...
My 9 year old daughter just got a little "chubby" and started getting picked on in school. I have worked her whole life to make her understand how beautiful she is and it has been undone by 3rd grade boys in a few months...
I have decided to IGNORE the "Fat" comments and focus with her on "health." We are focusing on packing fruits instead of crackers and taking a walk instead of watching TV. I am talking to her about her heart, circulation, lungs, skin and hair cells and how they need the nutrition from good food as opposed to focusing on what's fattening or "bad."
It's been a few weeks in this mission and the difference is visible. Not only has she slimmed down a little (NOT MY MAIN GOAL HERE) but she feels confident again and isn't hanging her head in shame.
I wish everyone had somebody to make them feel beautiful and help them by buying healthy food and explaining how it heals the body. I know the government can't be our "parent" but I wish something could be done in the positive direction to educate people and stop the corporations from making people believe bad food is OK...
You are a beautiful Mama and I crown you Mom of the year. Good way to teach your daughter about her self worth and health.0 -
I'm baffled whenever I read a post about an overweight someone taking up running in an effort to get healthy, and then that person is verbally attacked with name-calling in public as she runs. Why on earth would someone feel compelled to yell insults like that?
Knowing that some people behave like jerks (and may always be jerk-y) doesn't necessarily lessen the pain that overweight/obese people feel whenever derogatory remarks about their bodies, or even character, are thrown their way.
The thing is, I know for a fact the every single person on the planet has some area of her life in which to improve. It's not my job to "shame" anybody into being better/healthier/fitter/etc. I've personally got enough of my own stuff to deal with to last a lifetime; I would hope to not presume to "fix" someone else's stuff with the superior attitude, judgment, and unkindness that is implicit with shaming behavior.
I confess, it's difficult for me to maintain respect for those who feel justified in making fun of or shaming another person just because that person's particular problem is obvious and makes her an easy target.
Pengem, thanks for posting about your experience with your daughter. I'm so happy you have found a way to teach your child how to take care of herself and to be confident in who she is. I think that is a foundational life skill really, especially in a culture where we have easy access to an abundance of unhealthy foods side-by-side with super-photoshopped images of unrealistic male and female "beauty."
What are your thoughts, Sophrosyne? (just curious
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I CAN watch it but couldn't even finish it because it was annoying me. :ohwell: :yawn:0
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I haven't watched the video but I just want to say I quit watching Jay Leno because of his continual criticism and disrespect of fat people.0
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I have to stop myself from responding to a lot of people on this message board because of fat shaming. Whether they are former fat ppl or never have been fat ever, I've seen some really questionable and just mean and hurtful **** said about fat people on these boards. Not saying that all of it was intentional, but sometimes the way folks word things just sucks.
Fat-shaming is real and it hurts people. I could relate with a lot of what this guy was saying in the video. If you see someone fat, its is NONE of your business and downright rude to make assumptions about their health/wellness/diet/activity level without knowing them personally. Even then, unless they ask you for advice and/or help you really should just stay out of it. There are those who will say...I am concerned about their health, they are killing themselves, don't they know how horrible their diet is? There is nothing you can tell a fat person about themselves that they don't know already. Shaming fat people is faux-encouragement to me. Also, how about that person's mental well-being? Have you consider how constantly being picked on, nagged at, criticized takes a toll on your self-esteem which leads a lot of people to turn to food & further exacerbates their issues? Many fat people long to lose weight and guess what? There are some who don't. There is such a thing as fully happy, functioning fat-bodied people who are living their lives without any worries and I support those people.0 -
Funny you say that-being bullied about being a bigger kid was what made me gain weight in the first place.I can't watch the video at work...but I can say, if shaming worked, no one would be fat. That is all.
It`s called being afraid to go outside (therefore eliminating physical activity) and turning to food to ease boredom and give comfort.0 -
...meh didn't like my post. Carry on0
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I choose to workout early in the morning (I get up 4:00 am) because I used to go for walks after work when it was cooler. Everyday the same man in the same truck would drive by me and yell very unflattering things about me. Did I cry? Yes, but not where or when he could see me. Did I stop walking, no. Just readjusted my schedule to save myself the embarrasment. Did I change my mindset? Yes. I actually feel bad for this man that his life is so miserable that he has to try to tear me down to make himself feel better. I'm doing this for my health, for me and for the people who love me. Any other opinion doesn't matter.0
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My system won't let me watch the video but I have coincidentally been thinking about this lately... I honestly think that there is such a DISEASE in our culture with the HUGE corporations that market unhealthy things to eat to us, and the constant brainwashing of commercials who make us believe happy healthy people eat fast food and drink tons of soda...
My 9 year old daughter just got a little "chubby" and started getting picked on in school. I have worked her whole life to make her understand how beautiful she is and it has been undone by 3rd grade boys in a few months...
I have decided to IGNORE the "Fat" comments and focus with her on "health." We are focusing on packing fruits instead of crackers and taking a walk instead of watching TV. I am talking to her about her heart, circulation, lungs, skin and hair cells and how they need the nutrition from good food as opposed to focusing on what's fattening or "bad."
It's been a few weeks in this mission and the difference is visible. Not only has she slimmed down a little (NOT MY MAIN GOAL HERE) but she feels confident again and isn't hanging her head in shame.
I wish everyone had somebody to make them feel beautiful and help them by buying healthy food and explaining how it heals the body. I know the government can't be our "parent" but I wish something could be done in the positive direction to educate people and stop the corporations from making people believe bad food is OK...
This is awesome. My daughter will be three in August and I dread the day she may come home crying because someone at school was mean to her...for whatever reason...
I think your approach is healthy and really positive!0 -
whine..whine..whine..whine...That is all he did in that video. I woudln't want to hang out with this guy either...
1. You had a lousy/*kitten* friend..."we've all had one, or twenty"
2. People can be hurtful, angry, and jerks..but they are not responsible for your actions ( When I get depressed, if I try to fix that depression with wine and chocolate or a brutal workout the choice is mine) I've been to both extremes in my life 106lbs vs almost 160. My new mentaility is a little of both.
3. To me being fat is like being a smoker, you know its bad for you. Its your health and your body so do what you want, but do not expect me to understand or support that behavior.
4. Also do not complain about it...if you are not going to to try and fix it. If you are trying to fix it then Great! I'll take walks with you and order a salad when i really want a cheesburger...but this video was a just a lot of bull in my personal opinon.0 -
I probably can watch the video, but I'm not going to. Shaming people at all is not right. Fat people are not the only ones who get body-shamed. Skinny people do too. As evidenced quite often on this board. :yawn:0
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I CAN watch it but couldn't even finish it because it was annoying me. :ohwell: :yawn:
This...I heard a lot of p!ssing and moaning. I get that it's stupid to shame someone. Nobody deserves to be called ugly, fat, retarded, etc. None of us are here because we're proud of our body. But I don't sit and complain about how disgusting my gut is, or how bad my knees hurt. You aren't going to get sympathy from me, get off your butt and WALK to get the mail, that's a start. Get counseling, be proactive, not a b!tch.0 -
I'm a little burned out on the whole topic, to be perfectly honest. I think that morbid obesity is a symptom of low self esteem and issues that stem from things other than food.
I think we all need to be cognizant of who we are and how we see ourselves FIRST before how others see us.
Look in the mirror and ask -- are you happy with yourself "as is", or is there something you can change, starting today?
Stop playing the victim and start being your own hero.
You forgot to mention the genetic, environmental and socio-economic facters that influence morbid obesity. I am morbidly obese, I am quite happy with myself but concerned for my health. I am not a victim though over the years I have slipped into the victim role because of my weight. But I very strongly disagree with the United State's cultural stance that obesity is the one disease that it is still politically correct to make fun of.0 -
Oh Lordy, there's alot worse going on in the world than fat shaming, I don't see a miilion posts on those.0
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I can't finish watching it, it's a whole load of self pity and an effort to guilt-trip others. He moans about being fat, but what has he done to change it? Consult with a psychiatrist? Work out? Limit what he eats? Something?
He should be ashamed, not because he's fat, but because he doesn't show any effort to change it other than whine on Youtube.0 -
Would it be ok to shame him for being a whiner?0
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I have to stop myself from responding to a lot of people on this message board because of fat shaming. Whether they are former fat ppl or never have been fat ever, I've seen some really questionable and just mean and hurtful **** said about fat people on these boards. Not saying that all of it was intentional, but sometimes the way folks word things just sucks.
I've had the exact opposite experience here. Not "fat encouragement", but most people I've seen are supportive of fat people working on getting fitter. What people do shame is misinformation. If you spout an unpopular solution, or unsupported article you can expect to get shamed pretty hard...frequently without fact supported evidence. Basically broscience shaming broscience.0 -
He should be ashamed, not because he's fat, but because he doesn't show any effort to change it other than whine on Youtube.
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I have to stop myself from responding to a lot of people on this message board because of fat shaming. Whether they are former fat ppl or never have been fat ever, I've seen some really questionable and just mean and hurtful **** said about fat people on these boards. Not saying that all of it was intentional, but sometimes the way folks word things just sucks.
Thank you! I am shocked -- shocked -- that there are not more responses like this on this board, especially when I see all the tickers many people here have showing that have lost 75 pounds or more. People just LOVE hating on the fatties, including other fatties, I guess, and for them weight loss is just an excuse to join in the bullying.
Bottom line: Someone else's weight is nobody's business but their own. No one gets to say "He SHOULD lose weight and he doesn't, therefore LET'S GET HIM!" It's. Not. Cool.
I don't care if the particular guy in this particular video sounded whiny. IT DOESN'T MEAN HE DOESN'T LEGITIMATELY HAVE PROBLEMS, it just makes him whiny about his problems. Will losing weight help him avoid the fat shaming? Maybe! You know what else would help? If people stopped being ****ing bullying asshats, or even if society at large stopped giving a pass to bullying asshats just because their targets are fat.0 -
I knew a guy who would go to Walmart and yell at people in scooters. Tell them that if they got up and walked they wouldn't be so fat. He felt it was his right because they were "living off of his tax dollars." I lit into him. First of all, just because someone is in scooter doesn't mean they're living off of you. Secondly, who the hell are you to judge somebody?! His explanation was that he was trying to motivate them. I told hiim to mind his own business. Meanwhile he had a fat beergut. I also told him that if he ever did that to someone around me I would slap him in his face. Hard. He stopped speaking to me because of that and I have yet to loose an ounce of sleep over it. People can be complete a**holes sometimes.0
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I have to stop myself from responding to a lot of people on this message board because of fat shaming. Whether they are former fat ppl or never have been fat ever, I've seen some really questionable and just mean and hurtful **** said about fat people on these boards. Not saying that all of it was intentional, but sometimes the way folks word things just sucks.
Thank you! I am shocked -- shocked -- that there are not more responses like this on this board, especially when I see all the tickers many people here have showing that have lost 75 pounds or more. People just LOVE hating on the fatties, including other fatties, I guess, and for them weight loss is just an excuse to join in the bullying.
Bottom line: Someone else's weight is nobody's business but their own. No one gets to say "He SHOULD lose weight and he doesn't, therefore LET'S GET HIM!" It's. Not. Cool.
I don't care if the particular guy in this particular video sounded whiny. IT DOESN'T MEAN HE DOESN'T LEGITIMATELY HAVE PROBLEMS, it just makes him whiny about his problems. Will losing weight help him avoid the fat shaming? Maybe! You know what else would help? If people stopped being ****ing bullying asshats, or even if society at large stopped giving a pass to bullying asshats just because their targets are fat.
Okay, something that is happening here is a failure to communicate properly. Many of the folks saying that are saying he's whining instead of doing something about it are NOT shaming him. You may interpret is as such, but that is not what is happening. They're stating that in order to actually lose the weight he wants to lose he needs to break out of his shell and put in the work. Motivation is the first hurdle to getting it done. He hasn't taken that step yet. He needs to get motivated enough within himself to do something about it. They're not ridiculing him because he's fat.
Let me tell you something I see from pretty much every fit guy or gal around.
THE MOST INSPIRING thing for a fit person to see is a fat guy in his second week at the gym, still busting his backside, sweating like a stuck pig to try and get fit. It makes the gym alpha in the corner get teary eyed with how much potential this heavy ball of clay has in front of him. They want to see him or her keep coming and succeeding, day in and day out. It makes them pump harder themselves. It makes them double down on their routines, just to get the sweat going again. They don't want to see the fat guy fail or never try. They want to see the fat guy burn his way out of his gelatinous cocoon and turn into a heavy metal, fire breathing, iron plated butterfly with latissimus wings that make his feet lift the ground when he flexes.
TL;DR: Fit people see fat people as potential future badarses, not fat tubs of crap. At least that's my experience.0 -
I don't see why obesity is not considered an eating disorder. It is as much a dual physical and psychological problem as any ED. I don't understand the "shame" involved at all. Obese people are considered lazy, disgusting and worse, but other people with ED's are given sympathy, counseling, etc. How the HELL will shaming motivate or help a person to lose weight??0
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Glen Roberts 1 second ago
I'm a bigger guy and hey we all get what you're saying but here's the deal. You are fat and that can lead to health issues. So basically quit whining and complaining of what other people say and think and fix yourself because you want to. Overeating and lack of exercise are causes of becoming morbidly obese. I could care less what others think **** them but I want to get fit and healthy because it matters to me not what some jerkoff felt or said.
What I posted on YouTube and copied to here. I'm sick and tired of people making excuses on why they got fat or who picked on them. No one forced you to eat the foods that you ate. No one forced you to not workout and take better care of YOUR body. As for making fun of fat people it happens and it's not a good thing but I'm so sick and tired of people making all these bull**** excuses as to why they can't better themselves.
Arg this really strikes a chord with me because I lost my dad to weight and the idea that "I've been big all my life it happens" then my mom went bat **** crazy and ate 4 dozen doughnuts a day and gained 300 lbs. Now she's in the hospital and when the doctors told her that she was there because of some random **** instead of the enormous weight gain she was like "Oh i'm still healthy!?" I just hung up the phone.
It's your life people, rather you want to be fat or skinny or whatever own up to it and be proud of yourself but don't sit there and *****, moan, complain that you can't do something about it.
/rant off
TLDR Notes: Making fun of people = bad, Blaming everyone for your gained weight and whining that you can't fix it = worse.0 -
this guys seems to spend a lot of time whining on youtube. if he exercised instead maybe he wouldn't feel like whining as much.0
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