for those of you who are scared to eat whatever you want...
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125lbshereicome wrote: »Remember this: a carbohydrate and a protein expand 4 times in our body and fat expands 9 times. A cake and a steak with brown rice can have the same calories, but they won't have the same impact. You can eat 1000 cal of chocolates everyday and still lose weight (you only need a deficit to lose weight), but you won't be as full as you are with a healthy meal and you will have lots of fat cells. But that's up to you, if you don't mind the skinny fat, etc.
YOU wouldn't feel full. I would feel full on 1000 calories of chocolate.
AFAI understand it, carbs, protein, and fat don't "expand" in our bodies 4 and 9 times respectively. Those numbers are just the calories per gram of each stated macro.0 -
Hi OP I'm with you. My family eats some veggies, but we have days that we don't. Our choices don't affect anyone else's except that they're in awe of how much weight I have lost without the usual oh I'm on a diet misery, because I'm allowed to eat whatever I want to in my calories.
Please do not let anyone give you guilt about of your poor child's eating habits blah blah. I'm sure that those who are so high and righteous can go suck an organic, free range egg. Phooey.0 -
125lbshereicome wrote: »Remember this: a carbohydrate and a protein expand 4 times in our body and fat expands 9 times. A cake and a steak with brown rice can have the same calories, but they won't have the same impact. You can eat 1000 cal of chocolates everyday and still lose weight (you only need a deficit to lose weight), but you won't be as full as you are with a healthy meal and you will have lots of fat cells. But that's up to you, if you don't mind the skinny fat, etc.
YOU wouldn't feel full. I would feel full on 1000 calories of chocolate.
AFAI understand it, carbs, protein, and fat don't "expand" in our bodies 4 and 9 times respectively. Those numbers are just the calories per gram of each stated macro.
I would totally feel full on a thousand calories of chocolate.
In fact there is a dessert nacho at buffalo wild wings..the entire plate is 1700 calorories. I get 1470 for the day. So i could order it, and give 1/4 of it to someone else..and still be on my diet. And give no *kitten* about it. I have been thinking about it for a month. I won't actually go there to get it, but..if im invited..im all in. And people can say "wow, look at that girl eating all that yummy food" and i can be all like "im watching what i eat, im on s diet" the thing is the wrap i usually would get plus the fries (pre diet) is exactly the same amount of calories and this glorious thing they make.
I do notice sometimes up in these parts the "eat all the spinach" people..kinda seem cranky.
I will take skinny fat, over fat fat for now.
But i could work out, and still have muscles..and not eat broccoli. I believe this with my whole heart.
I sound awful lol.
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I love vegetables, but I also love your thread.
The reason? My diets always fail because I try to be too "good", I eat the salads and the veg and skip the pizza/ice cream as I think it'll help me lose more weight if I eat "clean".
This time around I'm having my favourite foods but fitting them into my calorie goal, and I feel so much better, and am probably more likely to succeed.0 -
I'm actually a bit baffled at all of these "I don't like vegetables" threads that keep popping up. There are literally hundreds and hundreds of kinds of vegetables on this big blue globe of ours, and I find it impossible to believe that anyone has tried and actively dislikes every single one, either raw or prepared every possible way each of them could be prepared. That's just nonsense. It's inane to say that because you tried a stalk of broccoli or a bite of cauliflower, that you dislike all vegetables. Unbelievable.0
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Sometimes it's a phobia rather than disliking the food, although it goes hand in hand.
I am phobic of spiders, they might taste delicious, but I'm never going to want to eat them am I?
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I'm only sorry you don't like veggies...0
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Verrrrry interesting discussion. I sometimes indulge like eating spicy chicken tenders and Cajun fries at Popeyes but I eat less everywhere else that day and come under calories and then I eat light for a day or two more. I do this kind of food rarely and when, well, I MUST have it. I'm eating for my lifetime and now and then it's okay. But it isn't healthy food. I know that. I eat it and I move right back on my path. Anyone want to see my diary, please friend me.0
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... there is a dessert nacho at buffalo wild wings..the entire plate is 1700 calorories. I get 1470 for the day. So i could order it, and give 1/4 of it to someone else..and still be on my diet. And give no *kitten* about it. I have been thinking about it for a month. I won't actually go there to get it, but..if im invited..im all in. And people can say "wow, look at that girl eating all that yummy food" and i can be all like "im watching what i eat, im on s diet" ...
You are an evil genius. mwah ha ha ha ha.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »Your body just digests food. It doesn't have two different pathways for processed and natural foods or something ridiculous like that.
I'm sorry, but you should educate yourself. All contemporary humans have two stomachs. One digests processed food, and at least 87% of such food processed by the processed food stomach is instantly turned to fat (95% if you have insulin in your system when the processing occurs). The other digests unprocessed foods, as well as boneless, skinless chicken breast, bacon, almond milk (including store-bought with carageenan), Kind bars, and Chipotle. I think those sugar-free Haribo gummi bears use this one as well, as well as any homemade juice (but not store-bought, that's Satan's juice). The beautiful thing is that if your non-processed food stomach is processing you cannot store fat, and a full 50% of the calories from foods processed by this stomach will go to make muscle if you are lifting weight. That's why people who eat lots of unprocessed foods and no processed ones have to be super careful to do only toning exercises or they will bulk up.
I have a link from authority nutrition that proves this.
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But..that was not the point of the thread. Im never going to eat vegetables unless i get a tongue transplant or something. And the ones i do like..well lets just say they come in a can.
For basically my whole life i basically thought i was doomed to be fat because i don't like (read hate) most healthy food. I have really strong food adversions.
So my health aside, i am pretty sure i get enough iron based on the amount of bread, cereal, and red meat i eat..anyways. you can eat all the food.
you don't like vegetables because you're too used to processed, crappy food. It's important to get a real amount of protein and more importantly to have your kids eat nutritionally. feeding your kids ice cream, chicken nuggets and other garbage isn't doing them any good.
I'd rather get nutrition out of my food and eat junk food more seldom, acting like you can eat garbage just because it is X calories isn't a good argument, i'd like to see the "1500 calories of just oreos diet" and see how someone's body responds to that over an elongated period of time.
and for me personally, eating food like that doesn't get me what i need so i'm really against it. I need lots of protein and eating food that you discussed doesn't remotely come close to that.
That might be one of the most ridiculous assertions I've ever seen on here.
Your whole post is ignoring context and is really just a soapbox for your bro-speak. This thread aint' 'bout you.
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TylEulenspiegel wrote: »I'm torn between tearing you a new one for eating that kind of crap (AND for letting your child eating chicken nuggets, unless they're the new 'healthy' kind that probably don't taste good) or jotting down everything you ate that day so that *I* can follow that diet for a day and have a really fun dining experience and hopefully a similar weight loss!!! Congratulations!!!!
Lol my kid packed his lunch lol.
Hey, can he pack my lunch?
You're doing fine eating what you can tolerate. I'm sure people will deride my lack of fruits and veggies, or that they're not certain types, or come from a can, or are dried.
Next time you have Little Caesars, let me know. I haven't had it in decades.
its so good, and i was craving really bad wed night, so i looked to see how many calories i had left and turns out if i got cheese i could have THREE slices. which ended up feeling like a lot of food, and honestly after the second slice I didn't need anymore, but i had logged it so.....i stuffed my face.
and i had to pieces left for the next day. it was sheer gluttonous non cheating JOY.
I also find it weird that people trying to lose weight on here eat so many veggies, like how the crap did you even get fat? were you actually going over your calories with all your healthy choices? i mean i pizza-ed, pancaked, and donuted my way to 220 lbs. happy I am now in onderland. but barely lol!
Yes, I got to my highest weight (214) eating "healthy" food. I was eating a lot of food, and I was using a lot of olive oil to prepare it. I was also really, really fond of almond butter.
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ogmomma2012 wrote: »I'm only sorry you don't like veggies...
What about that makes you feel sorry for her?
She seems happy with the way things are.
I know that vegetables are pack with nutrition but she can get that in other places.
It's not as if she lost a loved one or a leg. She just doesn't like vegetables.
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I really hope no one thinks im advocating my diet, it was really in response to all the "what should i eat threads" when people go balls to the wall snd eat nothing but broccoli and chicken, i would legit rather ba fat and happy. I would rather be thin obviously, but not if it meant a highly restrictive diet. I am aware that my daily indulgence did not make me lose my 1.8 lbs. BUT IT DIDN'T HINDER IT.
I would totally go on an oreo diet, can i mix the flavors?
You just don't get very many oreos.
Related to this, my husband told me he saw cookies and cream Oreos in the store last night.
Isn't that like Inception or something?
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125lbshereicome wrote: »Remember this: a carbohydrate and a protein expand 4 times in our body and fat expands 9 times. A cake and a steak with brown rice can have the same calories, but they won't have the same impact. You can eat 1000 cal of chocolates everyday and still lose weight (you only need a deficit to lose weight), but you won't be as full as you are with a healthy meal and you will have lots of fat cells. But that's up to you, if you don't mind the skinny fat, etc.
You're confusing the amount of calories each macronutrient has with some mythical physical property they might have on some under some other planet's odd gravitational forces.
(They don't "expand".)
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I'm actually a bit baffled at all of these "I don't like vegetables" threads that keep popping up. There are literally hundreds and hundreds of kinds of vegetables on this big blue globe of ours, and I find it impossible to believe that anyone has tried and actively dislikes every single one, either raw or prepared every possible way each of them could be prepared. That's just nonsense. It's inane to say that because you tried a stalk of broccoli or a bite of cauliflower, that you dislike all vegetables. Unbelievable.
Well, I'll speak as a mother of a person with sensory issues. Sometimes it's more than dislike.
So, there's that.
It seems like in the case of the OP, there might be more in play than just dislike.
She did mention eating grapes, which oddly enough is one bit of plant matter that passes by my kid with sensory issues too.
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Oh, what the heck. YOLO.
https://youtu.be/3FGee4kQHEY
And just so you know where he's coming from for real:
https://youtu.be/p9f-4-oryUs
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I love posts from people 'like me' (I hate veggies)
so I thought i would offer my own encouragement, mostly because i looked at my diary yesterday and could not help but giggle at how bad it was.
I had 'only' lost .4 lbs from monday to thursday morning. Yesterday I ate chicken nugget school lunch with my 6 year old, little Caesars for dinner, snickers, chocolate chip muffins, and an ice cream cone. LOL it was pretty awful, but it fit in to my calorie goal. This morning i had lost 1.8 lbs from the day before.
i'm not saying it is healthy! i'm just saying from a calories in calories out perspective..you don't have to cut anything out. moderation is your friend! I have a long way to go, and most of my days won't be that nutritionally void, but some will..and I believe I will still reach my goal.
AND IT WAS ALL YUMMY.
I maintained my weight for years on light and sweet coffee, Mountain Dew and Burger King big kid meals -- your day sounds down right healthy in comparison. You can absolutely reach your goal.
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PeachyCarol wrote: »
you don't like vegetables because you're too used to processed, crappy food. It's important to get a real amount of protein and more importantly to have your kids eat nutritionally. feeding your kids ice cream, chicken nuggets and other garbage isn't doing them any good.
I'd rather get nutrition out of my food and eat junk food more seldom, acting like you can eat garbage just because it is X calories isn't a good argument, i'd like to see the "1500 calories of just oreos diet" and see how someone's body responds to that over an elongated period of time.
and for me personally, eating food like that doesn't get me what i need so i'm really against it. I need lots of protein and eating food that you discussed doesn't remotely come close to that.
That might be one of the most ridiculous assertions I've ever seen on here.
Your whole post is ignoring context and is really just a soapbox for your bro-speak. This thread aint' 'bout you.
@brdnw has a good point. If you eat hyper-palatable junk foods all the time then natural, plain, healthful foods simply don't taste good. Your tastebuds get overwhelmed. Get really hungry, even fast for a couple of days if that's what it takes, and then you'll discover how good a fresh carrot or a grapefruit tastes. Or even... horrors... some plain green vegetables!
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I do like some vegetables.
Potatoes. Canned : green beans, corn, and peas.
Freaking love home grown tomatoes. Won't touch one that has the slightest bit of green/white still in the center.
Cartots cooked.d in a croc pot with potatoes and some sort of beef (chicken wont work) and yes.it is that specific, and they have to be mush..basically the same consistency of the potato.
I will eat way over cooked broccoli..but just the very tippy top. No stalk at all, and it would have to be in or on something.
I ate a black olive on a piece of pizza once 20 years ago, and yes i still remember how excited i was i didn't die.
I will eat most fruit. But it HAS to be perfectly ripe. Probably closer to over ripe.
And i can't stress enough..to leave pucky people alone..for me..i would rather eat a spider, abs i amm terrified of them than eat most foods on my 'no' list. It is a true phobia, that nobody understands, probably because they think said revolting (to me) food is yum.
I don't like a lot of stuff, but i like corn..my brother who will eat anything hates corn, so i get the "just eat it" sentiment. But its not that easy. Some people (my husband) appear to be sble to eat anything, he might not like it..but he has no problem putting it on a fork, chewing it and so on. I couldn't physically make myself put an onion in my mouth unless it was to save my children's life or something else ridiculously improbable.
Ive tried them i hate them. Bo matter how many times. I promise.
I do eat dark soft green lettuce, no stalk or crunchy part. I have probably eaten up to 1 cup at times. That was a big deal.
I will not eat them in a box, with a fox...0 -
PeachyCarol wrote: »
you don't like vegetables because you're too used to processed, crappy food. It's important to get a real amount of protein and more importantly to have your kids eat nutritionally. feeding your kids ice cream, chicken nuggets and other garbage isn't doing them any good.
I'd rather get nutrition out of my food and eat junk food more seldom, acting like you can eat garbage just because it is X calories isn't a good argument, i'd like to see the "1500 calories of just oreos diet" and see how someone's body responds to that over an elongated period of time.
and for me personally, eating food like that doesn't get me what i need so i'm really against it. I need lots of protein and eating food that you discussed doesn't remotely come close to that.
That might be one of the most ridiculous assertions I've ever seen on here.
Your whole post is ignoring context and is really just a soapbox for your bro-speak. This thread aint' 'bout you.
@brdnw has a good point. If you eat hyper-palatable junk foods all the time then natural, plain, healthful foods simply don't taste good. Your tastebuds get overwhelmed. Get really hungry, even fast for a couple of days if that's what it takes, and then you'll discover how good a fresh carrot or a grapefruit tastes. Or even... horrors... some plain green vegetables!
That's ...just not true.0 -
I actually find the opposite to be true for ME. Nost vegetables have too much flavor.0
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Oh, what the heck. YOLO.
NSFW, so don't hit 'play' if you are in the office or your kidlets are right there.
"Losing Weight with Derek Weida":
https://youtu.be/3FGee4kQHEY
https://youtu.be/3FGee4kQHEY
And just so you know where he's coming from for real:
"Wounded Combat Veteran Derek Weida Opens Veteran Oriented Gym":
https://youtu.be/p9f-4-oryUs
https://youtu.be/p9f-4-oryUs
I just seen a video with him in it about crossfit. It was hilarious and impressive at the same time.
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970Mikaela1 wrote: »I_Will_End_You wrote: »TylEulenspiegel wrote: »I'm torn between tearing you a new one for eating that kind of crap (AND for letting your child eating chicken nuggets, unless they're the new 'healthy' kind that probably don't taste good) or jotting down everything you ate that day so that *I* can follow that diet for a day and have a really fun dining experience and hopefully a similar weight loss!!! Congratulations!!!!
What's wrong with chicken nuggets?!
Apparently they are full of sugar and fat which apparently is metabolized differently than say a protein from some sort of lean meat which apparently isn't in a chicken nugget.
Just read the label on the box of nuggets in my freezer...'May contain traces of chicken.'
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