for those of you who are scared to eat whatever you want...

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  • snikkins
    snikkins Posts: 1,282 Member
    So... can we keep this thread for forever for the people who claim that "clean eaters" never do exactly what is happening in this thread?

    OP: Good on you! It is super freeing knowing that weight loss can be enjoyed and is not punishment!
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    Those two videos were awesome! What a remarkable man.
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    brdnw wrote: »
    glitzy196 wrote: »
    But..that was not the point of the thread. Im never going to eat vegetables unless i get a tongue transplant or something. And the ones i do like..well lets just say they come in a can.

    For basically my whole life i basically thought i was doomed to be fat because i don't like (read hate) most healthy food. I have really strong food adversions.

    So my health aside, i am pretty sure i get enough iron based on the amount of bread, cereal, and red meat i eat..anyways. you can eat all the food.

    you don't like vegetables because you're too used to processed, crappy food. It's important to get a real amount of protein and more importantly to have your kids eat nutritionally. feeding your kids ice cream, chicken nuggets and other garbage isn't doing them any good.

    I'd rather get nutrition out of my food and eat junk food more seldom, acting like you can eat garbage just because it is X calories isn't a good argument, i'd like to see the "1500 calories of just oreos diet" and see how someone's body responds to that over an elongated period of time.

    and for me personally, eating food like that doesn't get me what i need so i'm really against it. I need lots of protein and eating food that you discussed doesn't remotely come close to that.

    Thank you, too many people virtually high fiving the OP for questionable food choices.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    brdnw wrote: »
    glitzy196 wrote: »
    But..that was not the point of the thread. Im never going to eat vegetables unless i get a tongue transplant or something. And the ones i do like..well lets just say they come in a can.

    For basically my whole life i basically thought i was doomed to be fat because i don't like (read hate) most healthy food. I have really strong food adversions.

    So my health aside, i am pretty sure i get enough iron based on the amount of bread, cereal, and red meat i eat..anyways. you can eat all the food.

    you don't like vegetables because you're too used to processed, crappy food. It's important to get a real amount of protein and more importantly to have your kids eat nutritionally. feeding your kids ice cream, chicken nuggets and other garbage isn't doing them any good.

    I'd rather get nutrition out of my food and eat junk food more seldom, acting like you can eat garbage just because it is X calories isn't a good argument, i'd like to see the "1500 calories of just oreos diet" and see how someone's body responds to that over an elongated period of time.

    and for me personally, eating food like that doesn't get me what i need so i'm really against it. I need lots of protein and eating food that you discussed doesn't remotely come close to that.

    Thank you, too many people virtually high fiving the OP for questionable food choices.
    I forget, was it the actual Burger King himself, or some other food monarch who died and made you king of deciding what food is questionable for an adult to eat of her own choosing?
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  • karyabc
    karyabc Posts: 830 Member
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    brdnw wrote: »
    glitzy196 wrote: »
    But..that was not the point of the thread. Im never going to eat vegetables unless i get a tongue transplant or something. And the ones i do like..well lets just say they come in a can.

    For basically my whole life i basically thought i was doomed to be fat because i don't like (read hate) most healthy food. I have really strong food adversions.

    So my health aside, i am pretty sure i get enough iron based on the amount of bread, cereal, and red meat i eat..anyways. you can eat all the food.

    you don't like vegetables because you're too used to processed, crappy food. It's important to get a real amount of protein and more importantly to have your kids eat nutritionally. feeding your kids ice cream, chicken nuggets and other garbage isn't doing them any good.

    I'd rather get nutrition out of my food and eat junk food more seldom, acting like you can eat garbage just because it is X calories isn't a good argument, i'd like to see the "1500 calories of just oreos diet" and see how someone's body responds to that over an elongated period of time.

    and for me personally, eating food like that doesn't get me what i need so i'm really against it. I need lots of protein and eating food that you discussed doesn't remotely come close to that.

    Thank you, too many people virtually high fiving the OP for questionable food choices.

    ummm I think that there might be a very good chance that people are 'high fiving' because she is doing what's working FOR HER, for doing something for her health (yes, health, whether you or anyone thinks her approach it's good enough or not), for doing what SHE WANTS and not what some health authority patrol group think is good for her or not.

    you should consider take time and write your own post so YOU can expose what YOU thinks is right and is Working for you.


    but again there must be some virus in some of our computers cause we def. missed the title of this thread that apparently was: what you guys think about my diet/ is it good or healthy enough?
  • glassyo
    glassyo Posts: 7,743 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    brdnw wrote: »
    glitzy196 wrote: »
    But..that was not the point of the thread. Im never going to eat vegetables unless i get a tongue transplant or something. And the ones i do like..well lets just say they come in a can.

    For basically my whole life i basically thought i was doomed to be fat because i don't like (read hate) most healthy food. I have really strong food adversions.

    So my health aside, i am pretty sure i get enough iron based on the amount of bread, cereal, and red meat i eat..anyways. you can eat all the food.

    you don't like vegetables because you're too used to processed, crappy food. It's important to get a real amount of protein and more importantly to have your kids eat nutritionally. feeding your kids ice cream, chicken nuggets and other garbage isn't doing them any good.

    I'd rather get nutrition out of my food and eat junk food more seldom, acting like you can eat garbage just because it is X calories isn't a good argument, i'd like to see the "1500 calories of just oreos diet" and see how someone's body responds to that over an elongated period of time.

    and for me personally, eating food like that doesn't get me what i need so i'm really against it. I need lots of protein and eating food that you discussed doesn't remotely come close to that.

    Thank you, too many people virtually high fiving the OP for questionable food choices.
    I forget, was it the actual Burger King himself, or some other food monarch who died and made you king of deciding what food is questionable for an adult to eat of her own choosing?

    The Dairy Queen!

  • glitzy196
    glitzy196 Posts: 190 Member
    The point is, i knew i had basically the definition of a 'crap' day. But i kept my crap to my allotted calories, and i lost. I lost a lot. I see so many posts about people saying i only eat healthy why of why can't i lose..

    It is hopefully encouraging for other people to see that everything is ok. Even all at once if you follow the rules.

    If i ate 3500 calories of chicken breast and broccoli i don't think i would have seen the same results.

    Not to mention, my kid was pretty happy i was there. So..i win all the way around.
  • kellyjellybellyjelly
    kellyjellybellyjelly Posts: 9,480 Member
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    I have high hopes for the entertainment value of this thread. It already includes some of my favorites:
    - processed foods are bad for you
    - lists of woo science from non-credible internet sources
    - judgement about what someone feeds their kids
    - your body processes sugary and fatty foods differently than more nutritious foods


    Plus I heard there were chicken nuggets, Little Caesars, ice cream, and wine.

    @WinoGelato just wait until someone posts that we should be eating Peanut Butter Banana Ice Cream or Arctic Zero.
  • kellyjellybellyjelly
    kellyjellybellyjelly Posts: 9,480 Member
    Annie_01 wrote: »
    I went back and read the OP's post. I can't find where she asked for any critiques on her diet. Nor did she ask what she should be eating.

    I think her point was that someone could still lose weight and not have the healthiest diet.
    Some of her choices weren't that bad...IMO.

    OP...I am having a similar day today...a planned one. I eat lots of vegetables but I am kind of burned out on them so today I am having a ham sandwich with cheese, onion, tomato and avocado along with chips for lunch.

    Tonight I am having pizza.

    Breakfast was a bowl of cereal w/banana and almond milk.

    Could I be making healthier choices...I guess so but oh well. There is always tomorrow for more veggies...but not today.

    Werd! B)

    What she said.

    I have a whole pint of frozen yogurt planned in my diary on Monday & Thursday om nom nom nom nom.
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    glitzy196 wrote: »
    The point is, i knew i had basically the definition of a 'crap' day. But i kept my crap to my allotted calories, and i lost. I lost a lot. I see so many posts about people saying i only eat healthy why of why can't i lose..

    It is hopefully encouraging for other people to see that everything is ok. Even all at once if you follow the rules.

    If i ate 3500 calories of chicken breast and broccoli i don't think i would have seen the same results.

    Not to mention, my kid was pretty happy i was there. So..i win all the way around.

    Yes you do. :)
  • kellyjellybellyjelly
    kellyjellybellyjelly Posts: 9,480 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Your body just digests food. It doesn't have two different pathways for processed and natural foods or something ridiculous like that.

    I'm sorry, but you should educate yourself. All contemporary humans have two stomachs. One digests processed food, and at least 87% of such food processed by the processed food stomach is instantly turned to fat (95% if you have insulin in your system when the processing occurs). The other digests unprocessed foods, as well as boneless, skinless chicken breast, bacon, almond milk (including store-bought with carageenan), Kind bars, and Chipotle. I think those sugar-free Haribo gummi bears use this one as well, as well as any homemade juice (but not store-bought, that's Satan's juice). The beautiful thing is that if your non-processed food stomach is processing you cannot store fat, and a full 50% of the calories from foods processed by this stomach will go to make muscle if you are lifting weight. That's why people who eat lots of unprocessed foods and no processed ones have to be super careful to do only toning exercises or they will bulk up.

    I have a link from authority nutrition that proves this.

    Oh, and in more seriousness:
    Learning a new way of eating is something that can be conquered in steps. Right now, the OP is addressing HOW MUCH she's eating. Maybe her next step will be tackling WHAT she's eating.

    and
    Those of you castigating the OP are missing her point and derailing this thread and spreading some really bad information here.

    Best review ever for Sugar Free Gummi Bears.

    http://www.amazon.com/review/R3FTHSH0UNRHOH
  • aDivingBelle
    aDivingBelle Posts: 49 Member
    Wait til you get closer to your goal or have recomposition or fitness in mind. What you eat will matter more.
  • goldthistime
    goldthistime Posts: 3,213 Member
    edited August 2015
    OP I feel the same way about fish as you do vegetables. I have found a few kinds of fish I can eat and the more I eat them the easier it is, but every once in a while I get a bit close to the skin, or a new kind of fish and I wretch. I have to go rinse with mouthwash to stop the gagging feeling. And I make my husband eat his sardines on the porch. So I understand. Plus I have two friends who have very few vegetables that they can tolerate.

    I do believe that you can eat virtually anything and lose weight if it is less than your calorie expenditure for the day, but I think it would be more difficult if you do not include lots of filling foods (like vegetables) in your diet. More difficult still if you were to eat lots of highly palatable, low nutrition, low satiety food (aka junk food) on a regular basis.

    I read an article today that talked about food scientists working to make products with low satiety, so that people would eat more. I don't think this is tinfoil hat thinking, I think it's rational for a company to formulate a product that makes you want more. It's the low satiety that keeps me away from junk food as much as possible. Sometimes it feels like desserts have "negative satiety". I can be full from a great meal, no interest in eating another thing, and out comes the dessert and I think, "Oh, I could probably fit in a tiny piece", only to find my appetite rekindled once I have had that piece.

    Here's an excerpt:

    '"If the taste builds too much, consumption will stop … and snacks need to be eaten non-stop until the packet is finished," Thorton Mustard wrote, back in 2002. He was a food industry consultant who revealed, early on, some of the secrets of the food industry, in a book called The Taste Signature Revealed. He wrote that fullness or satiety, is "quite a serious enemy for a product."

    Mustard claimed he could help food companies design foods that were guaranteed to be "more-ish," which he defined as a quality that made a consumer want to eat more. It helped, he advised, if the food was easy to chew.

    "If people had to chew the food to extract the flavour enjoyment, it would take longer to eat, be better digested, and the feeling of being full reached far sooner. People would need to consume less," he wrote.'
  • aDivingBelle
    aDivingBelle Posts: 49 Member
    OP I feel the same way about fish as you do vegetables. I have found a few kinds of fish I can eat and the more I eat them the easier it is, but every once in a while I get a bit close to the skin, or a new kind of fish and I wretch. I have to go rinse with mouthwash to stop the gagging feeling. And I make my husband eat his sardines on the porch. So I understand. Plus I have two friends who have very few vegetables that they can tolerate.

    I do believe that you can eat virtually anything and lose weight if it is less than your calorie expenditure for the day, but I think it would be more difficult if you do not include lots of filling foods (like vegetables) in your diet. More difficult still if you were to eat lots of highly palatable, low nutrition, low satiety food (aka junk food) on a regular basis.

    I read an article today that talked about food scientists working to make products with low satiety, so that people would eat more. I don't think this is tinfoil hat thinking, I think it's rational for a company to formulate a product that makes you want more. It's the low satiety that keeps me away from junk food as much as possible. Sometimes it feels like desserts have "negative satiety". I can be full from a great meal, no interest in eating another thing, and out comes the dessert and I think, "Oh, I could probably fit in a tiny piece", only to find my appetite rekindled once I have had that piece.

    Here's an excerpt:

    '"If the taste builds too much, consumption will stop … and snacks need to be eaten non-stop until the packet is finished," Thorton Mustard wrote, back in 2002. He was a food industry consultant who revealed, early on, some of the secrets of the food industry, in a book called The Taste Signature Revealed. He wrote that fullness or satiety, is "quite a serious enemy for a product."

    Mustard claimed he could help food companies design foods that were guaranteed to be "more-ish," which he defined as a quality that made a consumer want to eat more. It helped, he advised, if the food was easy to chew.

    "If people had to chew the food to extract the flavour enjoyment, it would take longer to eat, be better digested, and the feeling of being full reached far sooner. People would need to consume less," he wrote.'

    Can you link this article? I'm interested in reading it.

  • goldthistime
    goldthistime Posts: 3,213 Member
    OP I feel the same way about fish as you do vegetables. I have found a few kinds of fish I can eat and the more I eat them the easier it is, but every once in a while I get a bit close to the skin, or a new kind of fish and I wretch. I have to go rinse with mouthwash to stop the gagging feeling. And I make my husband eat his sardines on the porch. So I understand. Plus I have two friends who have very few vegetables that they can tolerate.

    I do believe that you can eat virtually anything and lose weight if it is less than your calorie expenditure for the day, but I think it would be more difficult if you do not include lots of filling foods (like vegetables) in your diet. More difficult still if you were to eat lots of highly palatable, low nutrition, low satiety food (aka junk food) on a regular basis.

    I read an article today that talked about food scientists working to make products with low satiety, so that people would eat more. I don't think this is tinfoil hat thinking, I think it's rational for a company to formulate a product that makes you want more. It's the low satiety that keeps me away from junk food as much as possible. Sometimes it feels like desserts have "negative satiety". I can be full from a great meal, no interest in eating another thing, and out comes the dessert and I think, "Oh, I could probably fit in a tiny piece", only to find my appetite rekindled once I have had that piece.

    Here's an excerpt:

    '"If the taste builds too much, consumption will stop … and snacks need to be eaten non-stop until the packet is finished," Thorton Mustard wrote, back in 2002. He was a food industry consultant who revealed, early on, some of the secrets of the food industry, in a book called The Taste Signature Revealed. He wrote that fullness or satiety, is "quite a serious enemy for a product."

    Mustard claimed he could help food companies design foods that were guaranteed to be "more-ish," which he defined as a quality that made a consumer want to eat more. It helped, he advised, if the food was easy to chew.

    "If people had to chew the food to extract the flavour enjoyment, it would take longer to eat, be better digested, and the feeling of being full reached far sooner. People would need to consume less," he wrote.'

    Can you link this article? I'm interested in reading it.

    Sure, but I have to warn you that some of the article is going to cause raised eyebrows here. Phrases like "sugar addiction" etc.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/food-cravings-engineered-by-industry-1.1395225


  • glitzy196
    glitzy196 Posts: 190 Member
    Wait til you get closer to your goal or have recomposition or fitness in mind. What you eat will matter more.


    Probably..but ..still i never said this was the way to go. But being 130lbs is not going to magically make me like stuff. I will probably have to get creative..i don't find vegetables to be filling. At all actually. I have never understood the whole idea of eating some huge salad before a meal. I don't wanta salad, i want my food. I do the same crap with my six year old, he has to eat x before he can have y. Well he would eat chips all day long, so i know i have to stuff nutrition in their somewhere..i know i don't only eat chips, do im not concerned about my exact nutrition. Oh the horror! Honestly, i can't imagine ever being like..oh i need more calcium or protein today..it is do not on my radar.

    When i put green beans on my plate, i do it because i 'should'. Not because i get any joy out of it. Honestly id rather just not eat them. Im happy as crap when my 3 year old snatches them off my plate.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    Caitwn wrote: »
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    Love this guy!

  • jkal1979
    jkal1979 Posts: 1,896 Member
    glitzy196 wrote: »
    The point is, i knew i had basically the definition of a 'crap' day. But i kept my crap to my allotted calories, and i lost. I lost a lot. I see so many posts about people saying i only eat healthy why of why can't i lose..

    It is hopefully encouraging for other people to see that everything is ok. Even all at once if you follow the rules.

    If i ate 3500 calories of chicken breast and broccoli i don't think i would have seen the same results.

    Not to mention, my kid was pretty happy i was there. So..i win all the way around.

    I think it's also important to note that you also didn't have a meltdown over it either. Every so often someone will post that they had a day like yours, declare that they are a failure and decide to quit.
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    I have high hopes for the entertainment value of this thread. It already includes some of my favorites:
    - processed foods are bad for you
    - lists of woo science from non-credible internet sources
    - judgement about what someone feeds their kids
    - your body processes sugary and fatty foods differently than more nutritious foods


    Plus I heard there were chicken nuggets, Little Caesars, ice cream, and wine.

    @WinoGelato just wait until someone posts that we should be eating Peanut Butter Banana Ice Cream or Arctic Zero.

    I have a whopping 12 abuse flags and I swear 8 of them came from that damn ice cream substitution thread a few months ago... Man I have never seen people get more defensive than when you try to tell them that mashed Frozen Bananas are not healthier than ice cream...
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    edited August 2015
    glitzy196 wrote: »
    The point is, i knew i had basically the definition of a 'crap' day. But i kept my crap to my allotted calories, and i lost. I lost a lot. I see so many posts about people saying i only eat healthy why of why can't i lose..

    It is hopefully encouraging for other people to see that everything is ok. Even all at once if you follow the rules.

    If i ate 3500 calories of chicken breast and broccoli i don't think i would have seen the same results.

    Not to mention, my kid was pretty happy i was there. So..i win all the way around.

    From the original post:

    " Yesterday I ate chicken nugget school lunch with my 6 year old, little Caesars for dinner, snickers, chocolate chip muffins, and an ice cream cone. LOL it was pretty awful, but it fit in to my calorie goal. This morning i had lost 1.8 lbs from the day before."

    You did not lose 1.8 lbs in one day due to eating those foods. Water weight fluctuations or whatever, it was not a sustainable weight loss due to that day's eating.

  • frankiesgirlie
    frankiesgirlie Posts: 669 Member
    [/quote]
    Why is it weird to get fat overeating a lot of veggies? I got fat eating about 6-10 servings of veg and fruit a day. But I didn't eat just vegetables, and vegetables don't negate calories. Olive oil and wine have a lot of calories no matter how many vegetables I eat with them.[/quote]

    :| Not to advocate unhealthy living,but trust me not every one who looks good and in shape or trim is living healthy.
    Many years ago I had a very glamorous job. It was a lot of fun and I made really good money. I got to travel,stay in the best hotels, comped rooms in Vegas. The whole shabang. I looked really good on the outside but here was my daily lifestyle:
    Up at 9:00 and a trainer 5 days a week for combo weight training,running drills,and pilates. No breakfast,no lunch.
    At the pool with my work friends,where I'd have a protein powder/fruit shake made by the bartender with one shot kaluha,one shot vodka.(I'm not kidding).
    Work started at 5:00 or 6:00 pm where the club chef would make me a big mixed green salad with grilled chicken or fish with a light vinegrette dressing. Then the bartender would put a bottle of pino grigio on ice, which I would polish off by myself through out the night. After work we'd hit the local clubs where many more cocktails and some other substances not healthy to ingest were the norm. Then home about 2 am where I'd eat some comfort food from the mini fridge like vineger potato chips,OREOS,etc. Then to bed and it would start all over the next day.
    I was 30 years old,trim with muscle tone,turned heads.....and always felt like COMPLETE CRAP.
    I just didn't know I did until the job ended 5 years later.
    If you look at what I was eating and drinking probably just the alcohol was like 1500 or so calories a day. My food intake wasn't too horrible,but certainly not ideal,but on the face of it I LOOKED great and when I look at photos I was slim,tan and smiling. But I'm convinced if I had continued to live that way I'd be dead now.
    My point is,not all slim/fit looking people are truly healthy and not all overweight people are truly unhealthy.
    We all have to make our own decisions on what we ingest and hopefully find a balance of some nutritious stuff and some not so healthy but delicious stuff> I'm on MFP to try to do just that.

  • aDivingBelle
    aDivingBelle Posts: 49 Member
    glitzy196 wrote: »
    Wait til you get closer to your goal or have recomposition or fitness in mind. What you eat will matter more.


    Probably..but ..still i never said this was the way to go. But being 130lbs is not going to magically make me like stuff. I will probably have to get creative..i don't find vegetables to be filling. At all actually. I have never understood the whole idea of eating some huge salad before a meal. I don't wanta salad, i want my food. I do the same crap with my six year old, he has to eat x before he can have y. Well he would eat chips all day long, so i know i have to stuff nutrition in their somewhere..i know i don't only eat chips, do im not concerned about my exact nutrition. Oh the horror! Honestly, i can't imagine ever being like..oh i need more calcium or protein today..it is do not on my radar.

    When i put green beans on my plate, i do it because i 'should'. Not because i get any joy out of it. Honestly id rather just not eat them. Im happy as crap when my 3 year old snatches them off my plate.

    I thought you had a visceral gagging reaction to all vegetables? Is this person a troll or something. I seriously smell a troll.

    BTW- I eat pizza. And some other not so healthy foods. I try to only make it 10-15% of my intake. That's called being a responsible person. Losing weight or not, I know I will feel like crude if I eat like crude.
    And whether my son likes it or not, he has to eat some forms of fruit or vegetables throughout the day. It is not negotiable. He can choose which type, but he doesn't fight it because he's had them since he was a baby. It's called being a responsible parent.

  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,446 Member
    edited August 2015
    glitzy196 wrote: »
    I do like some vegetables.
    Potatoes. Canned : green beans, corn, and peas.
    Freaking love home grown tomatoes. Won't touch one that has the slightest bit of green/white still in the center.
    Cartots cooked.d in a croc pot with potatoes and some sort of beef (chicken wont work) and yes.it is that specific, and they have to be mush..basically the same consistency of the potato.

    I will eat way over cooked broccoli..but just the very tippy top. No stalk at all, and it would have to be in or on something.

    I ate a black olive on a piece of pizza once 20 years ago, and yes i still remember how excited i was i didn't die.

    I will eat most fruit. But it HAS to be perfectly ripe. Probably closer to over ripe.

    And i can't stress enough..to leave pucky people alone..for me..i would rather eat a spider, abs i amm terrified of them than eat most foods on my 'no' list. It is a true phobia, that nobody understands, probably because they think said revolting (to me) food is yum.

    I don't like a lot of stuff, but i like corn..my brother who will eat anything hates corn, so i get the "just eat it" sentiment. But its not that easy. Some people (my husband) appear to be sble to eat anything, he might not like it..but he has no problem putting it on a fork, chewing it and so on. I couldn't physically make myself put an onion in my mouth unless it was to save my children's life or something else ridiculously improbable.

    Ive tried them i hate them. Bo matter how many times. I promise.

    I do eat dark soft green lettuce, no stalk or crunchy part. I have probably eaten up to 1 cup at times. That was a big deal.

    I will not eat them in a box, with a fox...

    Green beans, corn, peas, tomatoes (btw I am with you on tomatoes, 100%) all have high carbs as far as vegetables go (i'm counting tomatoes as a vegetable bc practically speaking that's how we treat them) - and extremely/over ripe fruits have more sugar than fruits at what most people would say was optimal ripeness.

    Other than the fact that you seem to like sugary things, I have no idea how that might play into your tastes/aversions (do you like sweets a lot?), but I think it's worth noting.

    (Really my thought is: you're cleared re diabetes, right? Just asking bc I know a couple of people who were really into starches and sugary stuff, turned out they were diabetic.)
  • glitzy196
    glitzy196 Posts: 190 Member
    glitzy196 wrote: »
    Wait til you get closer to your goal or have recomposition or fitness in mind. What you eat will matter more.


    Probably..but ..still i never said this was the way to go. But being 130lbs is not going to magically make me like stuff. I will probably have to get creative..i don't find vegetables to be filling. At all actually. I have never understood the whole idea of eating some huge salad before a meal. I don't wanta salad, i want my food. I do the same crap with my six year old, he has to eat x before he can have y. Well he would eat chips all day long, so i know i have to stuff nutrition in their somewhere..i know i don't only eat chips, do im not concerned about my exact nutrition. Oh the horror! Honestly, i can't imagine ever being like..oh i need more calcium or protein today..it is do not on my radar.

    When i put green beans on my plate, i do it because i 'should'. Not because i get any joy out of it. Honestly id rather just not eat them. Im happy as crap when my 3 year old snatches them off my plate.

    I thought you had a visceral gagging reaction to all vegetables? Is this person a troll or something. I seriously smell a troll.

    Not to all vegetables. But several of them, i made a nice list. Troll? You can't be serious.

    BTW- I eat pizza. And some other not so healthy foods. I try to only make it 10-15% of my intake. That's called being a responsible person. Losing weight or not, I know I will feel like crude if I eat like crude.
    And whether my son likes it or not, he has to eat some forms of fruit or vegetables throughout the day. It is not negotiable. He can choose which type, but he doesn't fight it because he's had them since he was a baby. It's called being a responsible parent.
    That whole paragraph made me irrationally angry (or rationally, due to the insane condescending attitude of it)

    Pretty sure i said he had to eat before he got his beloved chips. Because ya know responsible parent an all.

    As far as me being diabetic, i have had to choldren in the last year, with full blood work ups..passed my glucose tests with flying colors..i have almost too low blood pressure, my cholesterol levels on perfect. I have been told more than once i am *slightly* low on vitamin B.

    My sweet tooth..honestly i could probably take it or leave it. If i had to survive for yhe rest of my life on say a handful of things sweets wouldn't make the cut. Fatty foofs probably would! Like i loooovee beef and cheese. But sincr im counting calories and can't slways fit a cheese burger in, i might pick ice cream or something. I coild eat tacos every. Single. Day. And coffee. Because i am picky i don't have a lot of variety ( and don't care to).

    And it was not because of those foods, but the deficit created by them, and lol that i lost water weight..because it was junk. If i had posted a pristine lettuce, chicken and turnip day everyone would say "see you lost weight because you ate such good food" that's a terrible double standard.

    I never suggested anyone try it. But turns out eating s snickers, or 2 is not the end of the world.
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  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,446 Member
    glitzy196 wrote: »
    glitzy196 wrote: »
    Wait til you get closer to your goal or have recomposition or fitness in mind. What you eat will matter more.


    Probably..but ..still i never said this was the way to go. But being 130lbs is not going to magically make me like stuff. I will probably have to get creative..i don't find vegetables to be filling. At all actually. I have never understood the whole idea of eating some huge salad before a meal. I don't wanta salad, i want my food. I do the same crap with my six year old, he has to eat x before he can have y. Well he would eat chips all day long, so i know i have to stuff nutrition in their somewhere..i know i don't only eat chips, do im not concerned about my exact nutrition. Oh the horror! Honestly, i can't imagine ever being like..oh i need more calcium or protein today..it is do not on my radar.

    When i put green beans on my plate, i do it because i 'should'. Not because i get any joy out of it. Honestly id rather just not eat them. Im happy as crap when my 3 year old snatches them off my plate.

    I thought you had a visceral gagging reaction to all vegetables? Is this person a troll or something. I seriously smell a troll.

    Not to all vegetables. But several of them, i made a nice list. Troll? You can't be serious.

    BTW- I eat pizza. And some other not so healthy foods. I try to only make it 10-15% of my intake. That's called being a responsible person. Losing weight or not, I know I will feel like crude if I eat like crude.
    And whether my son likes it or not, he has to eat some forms of fruit or vegetables throughout the day. It is not negotiable. He can choose which type, but he doesn't fight it because he's had them since he was a baby. It's called being a responsible parent.

    As far as me being diabetic, i have had to choldren in the last year, with full blood work ups..passed my glucose tests with flying colors..i have almost too low blood pressure, my cholesterol levels on perfect. I have been told more than once i am *slightly* low on vitamin B.

    My sweet tooth..honestly i could probably take it or leave it. If i had to survive for yhe rest of my life on say a handful of things sweets wouldn't make the cut. Fatty foofs probably would! Like i loooovee beef and cheese. But sincr im counting calories and can't slways fit a cheese burger in, i might pick ice cream or something. I coild eat tacos every. Single. Day. And coffee. Because i am picky i don't have a lot of variety ( and don't care to).

    And it was not because of those foods, but the deficit created by them, and lol that i lost water weight..because it was junk. If i had posted a pristine lettuce, chicken and turnip day everyone would say "see you lost weight because you ate such good food" that's a terrible double standard.

    I never suggested anyone try it. But turns out eating s snickers, or 2 is not the end of the world.

    Glad to hear you're in good shape :) I'm a fan of burgers and tacos (and coffee) too.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    Just my observation... But I think some people arc up about these kind of posts/threads because it may come across as bragging?

    "Hey look at how much junk food I can stuff in and still lose weight"

    It's the exact opposite of the clean eaters who say

    "Look at how much veggies and lean meats etc I can have and still stay below my calorie goal.

    Same, same but different. Some people may say, equally as annoying...
  • Ty_Floyd
    Ty_Floyd Posts: 102 Member
    glitzy196 wrote: »
    The point is, i knew i had basically the definition of a 'crap' day. But i kept my crap to my allotted calories, and i lost. I lost a lot. I see so many posts about people saying i only eat healthy why of why can't i lose..

    It is hopefully encouraging for other people to see that everything is ok. Even all at once if you follow the rules.

    If i ate 3500 calories of chicken breast and broccoli i don't think i would have seen the same results.

    Not to mention, my kid was pretty happy i was there. So..i win all the way around.

    You probably were dehydrated after eating so much sugar in one hit. That would explain the 1.8 pounds weight loss.
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