Abs abs please i want tight core

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  • slideaway1
    slideaway1 Posts: 1,006 Member
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    ninerbuff wrote: »
    oilphins wrote: »
    Yes doing weights will burn fat but there'e no way your going to lose weight and have "abs" just doing weights unless your on some sort of steroids.
    Lol, there are lots of people on here that do weights only and have abs with no PED use. Pretty bold blanket statement and not even close to the truth.
    And niner is saying you burn more fat sleeping than hiking? That is so far from the truth, is isn't even funny. So if I never exercise and just sleep, I'm going to lose more body fat than hiking two hours everyday, 7 days a week? Don't think so bud.
    You burn more FAT sleeping 8 hours a day than doing 2 hours of hiking, yes. Notice I didn't say CALORIES. The ratio of calories from hiking will come from mostly from glycogen and little fat if glycogen is depleted enough. The body's energy source at rest is 100% FAT (unless you have alcohol in your system) which is why rest is so important. You're resting more than you're working out throughout the day so the amount of FAT% burned will be much much higher than if you were working out. You can disagree, but you'd be wrong.

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    Good info mate. Much appreciated.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    edited September 2015
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    oilphins wrote: »
    The problem with these public posts is that everyone always veers away from the topic of what he/she wants or is asking for (advice) and ends up talking about their own problems. Doralim the fact about burning fat is you have to get to what's called a calorie deficit. That's where you burn more calories then you actually eat throughout the day. You can burn 3000 calories a day doing cardio, biking or whatever but if your eating say 3500 calories, you won't burn fat. You actually have to burn almost 2000 calories more than what you intake everyday just to burn one pound of body fat. And not be judgemental but to what the personal trainer niner said but if you think you can burn an extra 2000 calories a day and burn more fat by not doing cardio, it's not happening. Yes doing weights will burn fat but there'e no way your going to lose weight and have "abs" just doing weights unless your on some sort of steroids. A 300 pound person can do ab crunches till their blue in the face and you won't see any results until you lose weight and body fat. Good luck to you Doralim. And niner is saying you burn more fat sleeping than hiking? That is so far from the truth, is isn't even funny. So if I never exercise and just sleep, I'm going to lose more body fat than hiking two hours everyday, 7 days a week? Don't think so bud.

    A couple points.
    You actually have to burn almost 2000 calories more than what you intake everyday just to burn one pound of body fat.

    Wat? That would 4lbs of fat per week?
    Yes doing weights will burn fat but there'e no way your going to lose weight and have "abs" just doing weights unless your on some sort of steroids.

    Wat?
    And niner is saying you burn more fat sleeping than hiking? That is so far from the truth, is isn't even funny. So if I never exercise and just sleep, I'm going to lose more body fat than hiking two hours everyday, 7 days a week? Don't think so bud.

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  • branflakes1980
    branflakes1980 Posts: 2,516 Member
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    djspacecaptain wrote: »
    From my experience (I lost bunch of weight and had a good 5 pack) Is to just hit it hard. I was doing 1000-2000 crunches per gym sesh and they were with 35-45lb weights added. I hit it that hard for a loooooonng time that even when stopping exercising for over a year and gaining over 50lbs i can still see the abs. So i recommend just doing so much crunch exercises that your abs will have no choice but to come out!

    This sounds awful. Like legit awful.

  • doralim1990
    doralim1990 Posts: 76 Member
    edited September 2015
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    Just to be clear , and focus on my prob rather than arguing

    My last weight-in was 2 months ago at 49kg , now i am about 47.5kg - 48kg . This is morning before breakkie. I am 159cm and have a small body frame

    Here's what my diary in most days...

    Morning : half cup oats + banana + chia seed + coffee with 1tsp of sugar

    Pre workout : 1 apple and green tea

    Workout : workout hiit + upper/lower/abs 30-35 mins

    Lunch : half cup of rice / sweet potatoes +a cup of stir fry veggie with tofu

    Also do twice 40 mins yoga per week before dinner

    Dinner : 2 huge sweet potatoes and corn or veggie soup with rice or oats with fruit

    Snack : 1 oat cookies

    I record my calories in my fitness pal and yes its about 1000cal per day.

    I have no job right now and i have Very minimum movement

    You guys be the judge
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
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    doralim1990 wrote: »
    Just to be clear , and focus on my prob rather than arguing

    My last weight-in was 2 months ago at 49kg , now i am about 47.5kg - 48kg . This is morning before breakkie.

    Here's what my diary in most days...

    Morning : half cup oats + banana + chia seed + coffee with 1tsp of sugar

    Pre workout : 1 apple and green tea

    Workout : workout hiit + upper/lower/abs 30-35 mins

    Lunch : half cup of rice / sweet potatoes +a cup of stir fry veggie with tofu

    Also do twice 40 mins yoga per week before dinner

    Dinner : 2 huge sweet potatoes and corn or veggie soup with rice or oats with fruit

    Snack : 1 oat cookies

    I record my calories in fitness blender and yes its about 1000cal per day.

    I have no job right now and i have Very minimum movement

    You guys be the judge

    Regarding minimum movement. Is that due to an injury, or do you mean you tend to just sit around your house? As previously suggested, I'd look into progressive resistance programs if you don't have any exercise limitations and read the body recomposition thread; you're already at a pretty low weight you need to be focusing on building more muscle and not losing more weight.

    For example Staci is 11 lbs heavier in the picture on the right:
    Screen-Shot-2011-07-21-at-9.23.11-AM1.jpg

    You can read her story here:
    http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/
  • doralim1990
    doralim1990 Posts: 76 Member
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    auddii wrote: »
    doralim1990 wrote: »
    Just to be clear , and focus on my prob rather than arguing

    My last weight-in was 2 months ago at 49kg , now i am about 47.5kg - 48kg . This is morning before breakkie.

    Here's what my diary in most days...

    Morning : half cup oats + banana + chia seed + coffee with 1tsp of sugar

    Pre workout : 1 apple and green tea

    Workout : workout hiit + upper/lower/abs 30-35 mins

    Lunch : half cup of rice / sweet potatoes +a cup of stir fry veggie with tofu

    Also do twice 40 mins yoga per week before dinner

    Dinner : 2 huge sweet potatoes and corn or veggie soup with rice or oats with fruit

    Snack : 1 oat cookies

    I record my calories in fitness blender and yes its about 1000cal per day.

    I have no job right now and i have Very minimum movement

    You guys be the judge

    Regarding minimum movement. Is that due to an injury, or do you mean you tend to just sit around your house? As previously suggested, I'd look into progressive resistance programs if you don't have any exercise limitations and read the body recomposition thread; you're already at a pretty low weight you need to be focusing on building more muscle and not losing more weight.

    For example Staci is 11 lbs heavier in the picture on the right:
    Screen-Shot-2011-07-21-at-9.23.11-AM1.jpg

    You can read her story here:
    http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/


    I am not suffering of any kind of injury, i just tend to sit alot because i have nothing much to do besides staring at my computer all day.

    I really want to try to incoporate weight lifting to my exercise to gain muscle, and by that time i will increase my calories intake.

  • doralim1990
    doralim1990 Posts: 76 Member
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    Just to be clear again, i am really not starving myself, in fact i am quite stuffed most of the time. I have a small frame (all of my bones are small) but i am the skinny fat type. It is so hard to be toned except my legs. I don't have a jiggly thighs. But the rest of the body are just pfffttttt! Like abs and arms! Duh
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    edited September 2015
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    I think you are miscalculating your intake. It is more like 1800 a day.
    doralim1990 wrote: »
    Just to be clear , and focus on my prob rather than arguing

    My last weight-in was 2 months ago at 49kg , now i am about 47.5kg - 48kg . This is morning before breakkie. I am 159cm and have a small body frame

    Here's what my diary in most days...

    Morning : half cup oats + banana + chia seed + coffee with 1tsp of sugar

    Pre workout : 1 apple and green tea

    Workout : workout hiit + upper/lower/abs 30-35 mins

    Lunch : half cup of rice / sweet potatoes +a cup of stir fry veggie with tofu

    Also do twice 40 mins yoga per week before dinner

    Dinner : 2 huge sweet potatoes and corn or veggie soup with rice or oats with fruit

    Snack : 1 oat cookies

    I record my calories in my fitness pal and yes its about 1000cal per day.

    I have no job right now and i have Very minimum movement

    You guys be the judge

  • doralim1990
    doralim1990 Posts: 76 Member
    edited September 2015
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    Not trying to be mean but the calorie deficit thingy just isn't for me. Based on my past experience (which i was basically starving myself to lose weight) my weight was so much lesser than currently and i was still flabby as hell even though you could see bones on my ribs and collar etc.

    I highly believe in my case its the exercise issue. If you said abs are made in the kitchen, there I've showed you my food intake and I can say that its pretty clean.
  • 3bambi3
    3bambi3 Posts: 1,650 Member
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    doralim1990 wrote: »
    Not trying to be mean but the calorie deficit thingy just isn't for me. Based on my past experience (which i was basically starving myself to lose weight) my weight was so much lesser than currently and i was still flabby as hell even though you could see bones on my ribs and collar etc.

    I highly believe in my case its the exercise issue. If you said abs are made in the kitchen, there I've showed you my food intake and I can say that its pretty clean.

    This thread has been posted a few times. Have you looked at it yet?

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1161603/so-you-want-a-nice-stomach/p1
  • oilphins
    oilphins Posts: 240 Member
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    RGv2 wrote: »
    oilphins wrote: »
    The problem with these public posts is that everyone always veers away from the topic of what he/she wants or is asking for (advice) and ends up talking about their own problems. Doralim the fact about burning fat is you have to get to what's called a calorie deficit. That's where you burn more calories then you actually eat throughout the day. You can burn 3000 calories a day doing cardio, biking or whatever but if your eating say 3500 calories, you won't burn fat. You actually have to burn almost 2000 calories more than what you intake everyday just to burn one pound of body fat. And not be judgemental but to what the personal trainer niner said but if you think you can burn an extra 2000 calories a day and burn more fat by not doing cardio, it's not happening. Yes doing weights will burn fat but there'e no way your going to lose weight and have "abs" just doing weights unless your on some sort of steroids. A 300 pound person can do ab crunches till their blue in the face and you won't see any results until you lose weight and body fat. Good luck to you Doralim. And niner is saying you burn more fat sleeping than hiking? That is so far from the truth, is isn't even funny. So if I never exercise and just sleep, I'm going to lose more body fat than hiking two hours everyday, 7 days a week? Don't think so bud.

    A couple points.
    You actually have to burn almost 2000 calories more than what you intake everyday just to burn one pound of body fat.

    Wat? That would 4lbs of fat per week?
    Yes doing weights will burn fat but there'e no way your going to lose weight and have "abs" just doing weights unless your on some sort of steroids.

    Wat?
    And niner is saying you burn more fat sleeping than hiking? That is so far from the truth, is isn't even funny. So if I never exercise and just sleep, I'm going to lose more body fat than hiking two hours everyday, 7 days a week? Don't think so bud.

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    All I can say is lmfao.
  • doralim1990
    doralim1990 Posts: 76 Member
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    queenliz99 wrote: »

    I think you are miscalculating your intake. It is more like 1800 a day.
    doralim1990 wrote: »
    Just to be clear , and focus on my prob rather than arguing

    My last weight-in was 2 months ago at 49kg , now i am about 47.5kg - 48kg . This is morning before breakkie. I am 159cm and have a small body frame

    Here's what my diary in most days...

    Morning : half cup oats + banana + chia seed + coffee with 1tsp of sugar

    Pre workout : 1 apple and green tea

    Workout : workout hiit + upper/lower/abs 30-35 mins

    Lunch : half cup of rice / sweet potatoes +a cup of stir fry veggie with tofu

    Also do twice 40 mins yoga per week before dinner

    Dinner : 2 huge sweet potatoes and corn or veggie soup with rice or oats with fruit

    Snack : 1 oat cookies

    I record my calories in my fitness pal and yes its about 1000cal per day.

    I have no job right now and i have Very minimum movement

    You guys be the judge

    For real? I use weight to determine my food. Sometimes its not easy if you cook stir fry where u mixed up everything, so i just calculate them individually. (Eg : one tomatoes, 80g tofu, half cucumber) etc. For sweet potatoes,oats and banana are definitely correct cause i weighed all of them.
  • gdyment
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    ninerbuff wrote: »
    You burn more FAT sleeping 8 hours a day than doing 2 hours of hiking, yes. Notice I didn't say CALORIES. The ratio of calories from hiking will come from mostly from glycogen and little fat if glycogen is depleted enough. The body's energy source at rest is 100% FAT (unless you have alcohol in your system) which is why rest is so important. You're resting more than you're working out throughout the day so the amount of FAT% burned will be much much higher than if you were working out. You can disagree, but you'd be wrong.

    Ok let's get back to specifics - are you saying that someone will burn MORE FAT resting on the couch for 2 hrs rather than going for a 2 hr hike/long run? (Both people will sleep at night so that's a wash). There is no case where someone gets to pick between a 2 hrs activity OR an 8 hr sleep.

    Secondly, are you saying that someone who is bedridden, but consumes exactly 500 cals under their TDEE will be in exactly the same weight and body composition as a moderate distance runner who does the same (500 cals under TDEE, say 10 hrs of cardio a week)?

  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
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    doralim1990 wrote: »
    Just to be clear , and focus on my prob rather than arguing

    My last weight-in was 2 months ago at 49kg , now i am about 47.5kg - 48kg . This is morning before breakkie. I am 159cm and have a small body frame

    Here's what my diary in most days...

    Morning : half cup oats(150 calories) + banana(124) + chia seed(60) + coffee with 1tsp(15) of sugar

    Pre workout : 1 apple(116) and green tea

    Workout : workout hiit + upper/lower/abs 30-35 mins

    Lunch : half cup of rice(320) / sweet potatoes(112 ea) +a cup of stir fry veggie with tofu (300?)

    Also do twice 40 mins yoga per week before dinner

    Dinner : 2 huge sweet potatoes(what's huge BTW)(112 ea) and corn(100) or veggie soup with rice(80?) or oats with fruit(200?)

    Snack : 1 oat cookies (100)

    I record my calories in my fitness pal and yes its about 1000cal per day.

    I have no job right now and i have Very minimum movement

    You guys be the judge

    1800 or more. I only calculated the most generic of entries and I think i was being generous in my numbers.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
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    oilphins wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    oilphins wrote: »
    The problem with these public posts is that everyone always veers away from the topic of what he/she wants or is asking for (advice) and ends up talking about their own problems. Doralim the fact about burning fat is you have to get to what's called a calorie deficit. That's where you burn more calories then you actually eat throughout the day. You can burn 3000 calories a day doing cardio, biking or whatever but if your eating say 3500 calories, you won't burn fat. You actually have to burn almost 2000 calories more than what you intake everyday just to burn one pound of body fat. And not be judgemental but to what the personal trainer niner said but if you think you can burn an extra 2000 calories a day and burn more fat by not doing cardio, it's not happening. Yes doing weights will burn fat but there'e no way your going to lose weight and have "abs" just doing weights unless your on some sort of steroids. A 300 pound person can do ab crunches till their blue in the face and you won't see any results until you lose weight and body fat. Good luck to you Doralim. And niner is saying you burn more fat sleeping than hiking? That is so far from the truth, is isn't even funny. So if I never exercise and just sleep, I'm going to lose more body fat than hiking two hours everyday, 7 days a week? Don't think so bud.

    A couple points.
    You actually have to burn almost 2000 calories more than what you intake everyday just to burn one pound of body fat.

    Wat? That would 4lbs of fat per week?
    Yes doing weights will burn fat but there'e no way your going to lose weight and have "abs" just doing weights unless your on some sort of steroids.

    Wat?
    And niner is saying you burn more fat sleeping than hiking? That is so far from the truth, is isn't even funny. So if I never exercise and just sleep, I'm going to lose more body fat than hiking two hours everyday, 7 days a week? Don't think so bud.

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    All I can say is lmfao.

    Good, I don't think the board could handle anymore of your.....ummm.....advice.
  • doralim1990
    doralim1990 Posts: 76 Member
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    @queenliz99
    1800 or more. I only calculated the most generic of entries and I think i was being generous in my numbers.[/quote]

    Hmm nope.

    To be exact my breakfast is about 350cal, lunch about 300cal, dinner about 300-350cal. Maybe will reach 1,100 if i had snack at that day. I do not eat all of the food mentioned above, i put an "or" "/" so its like either one of those.

    I never reach 1800-2000 it would be like binging amount for me.

  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
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    I'm just going to drop this off again.

    1. If you were truly only eating 1000 calories per day, you'd be losing weight. My 6 year old eats more than 1000 calories.
    2. You probably don't need to "lose more weight". You most likely need to go through some sort of recomp to reach the aesthetic goals your after.
    3. If you were truly only eating 1000 calories per day, I highly doubt you'd be "stuffed".
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,874 Member
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    doralim1990 wrote: »
    LeahEstevez4 wrote: »
    doralim1990 wrote: »
    My calories is already deficit enough as hell . I ate whole plant based food 80% all the time at about 1000cal per day! I was told that it is too little and i need at least 1200. Thats what confuse me. I can be toned in other body parts just not the abs.

    well.. i actually think youre starving

    Because i eat mostly plant based, veggie, fruit, potatoes, oats. I do get to eat alot to hit 1000. I dont think i could smash in another 200-300. Except from high fat food like avocado or nuts. That would be easy.

    dietary fat doesn't make you fat and is essential...avocados and nuts are extremely good for you.
  • doralim1990
    doralim1990 Posts: 76 Member
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    @3bambi3

    Yes i did read it. My TDEE - 20% is about 1,240cal / day. Which is my current calories goal. So basically i need to increase 200cal more each day? Pretty easy if i just shove 2tbsp of peanut butter everyday.
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
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    doralim1990 wrote: »
    @queenliz99
    1800 or more. I only calculated the most generic of entries and I think i was being generous in my numbers.

    Hmm nope.

    To be exact my breakfast is about 350cal, lunch about 300cal, dinner about 300-350cal. Maybe will reach 1,100 if i had snack at that day. I do not eat all pf the food mentioned above, i put and "or" "/" so its like either one of those.

    [/quote]

    I saw the and/or but now you say you didn't eat all of the above. I was trying to help you out but I don't know now. Either make your diary public or I'll just take your word.

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