Do you believe sugar cravings can be similar to drug addictions?
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I'm saying yes. Not only because it feels like it to me, but I'm fairly sure there has been numerous studies that show it lights up the same areas of the brain and your body reacts similarly to both drugs and sugar.0
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No.0
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Yes! ^This, for that exact reason. Thank you, @PurringMyrrh!PurringMyrrh wrote: »I'm saying yes. Not only because it feels like it to me, but I'm fairly sure there has been numerous studies that show it lights up the same areas of the brain and your body reacts similarly to both drugs and sugar.0 -
Not sure about sugar but fatty food release endorphins. So ya I guess it could0
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I'm in0
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Yes. But this is a hotly debated topic.0
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PurringMyrrh wrote: »I'm saying yes. Not only because it feels like it to me, but I'm fairly sure there has been numerous studies that show it lights up the same areas of the brain and your body reacts similarly to both drugs and sugar.
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No.
If you've ever withdrawn from opiates , you wouldn't claim the feeling is the same.
I understand studies may show the same receptors are "lit" up, but that doesn't even compare.
Person A wants a cookie, doesn't get it.
person B is addicted to opiates and wants a fix but doesn't get it.
Person A would not go through the same withdraw symptoms as person b. Person B would be in extreme withdraw within hours and would experience symptoms like, vomiting, the shakes, diarrhea, pain and so on. Person A wouldn't experience those symptoms because they didn't get to eat a cookie.0 -
Yes. Personal experience with another person. I've gotten out of the sugar game. Alcohol is my dependency now. I think dependency might be a better word. Idk but yes.0
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thorsmom01 wrote: »No.
If you've ever withdrawn from opiates , you wouldn't claim the feeling is the same.
I understand studies may show the same receptors are "lit" up, but that doesn't even compare.
Person A wants a cookie, doesn't get it.
person B is addicted to opiates and wants a fix but doesn't get it.
Person A would not go through the same withdraw symptoms as person b. Person B would be in extreme withdraw within hours and would experience symptoms like, vomiting, the shakes, diarrhea, pain and so on. Person A wouldn't experience those symptoms because they didn't get to eat a cookie.
I don't know man.... Cookies are pretty good....0 -
thorsmom01 wrote: »No.
If you've ever withdrawn from opiates , you wouldn't claim the feeling is the same.
I understand studies may show the same receptors are "lit" up, but that doesn't even compare.
Person A wants a cookie, doesn't get it.
person B is addicted to opiates and wants a fix but doesn't get it.
Person A would not go through the same withdraw symptoms as person b. Person B would be in extreme withdraw within hours and would experience symptoms like, vomiting, the shakes, diarrhea, pain and so on. Person A wouldn't experience those symptoms because they didn't get to eat a cookie.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1931610/
"Our findings clearly demonstrate that intense sweetness can surpass cocaine reward, even in drug-sensitized and -addicted individuals. We speculate that the addictive potential of intense sweetness results from an inborn hypersensitivity to sweet tastants. In most mammals, including rats and humans, sweet receptors evolved in ancestral environments poor in sugars and are thus not adapted to high concentrations of sweet tastants. The supranormal stimulation of these receptors by sugar-rich diets, such as those now widely available in modern societies, would generate a supranormal reward signal in the brain, with the potential to override self-control mechanisms and thus to lead to addiction."0 -
@TrailBlazzinMN Love your post. Thank you for sharing.0
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I hate when people say this. its not even close.0
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thorsmom01 wrote: »No.
If you've ever withdrawn from opiates , you wouldn't claim the feeling is the same.
I understand studies may show the same receptors are "lit" up, but that doesn't even compare.
Person A wants a cookie, doesn't get it.
person B is addicted to opiates and wants a fix but doesn't get it.
Person A would not go through the same withdraw symptoms as person b. Person B would be in extreme withdraw within hours and would experience symptoms like, vomiting, the shakes, diarrhea, pain and so on. Person A wouldn't experience those symptoms because they didn't get to eat a cookie.
It's not the same, precisely because of what ^^Thorsmom^^ said.
You go to a NA meeting saying, "Hi I'm Joe Schmoe and I'm addicted to sugar." You'll get you *kitten* laughed outta there... :noway:
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Jersey__Devil wrote: »I hate when people say this. its not even close.
Addiction comes in all forms. Anything is a risk for addiction
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Lasmartchika wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »No.
If you've ever withdrawn from opiates , you wouldn't claim the feeling is the same.
I understand studies may show the same receptors are "lit" up, but that doesn't even compare.
Person A wants a cookie, doesn't get it.
person B is addicted to opiates and wants a fix but doesn't get it.
Person A would not go through the same withdraw symptoms as person b. Person B would be in extreme withdraw within hours and would experience symptoms like, vomiting, the shakes, diarrhea, pain and so on. Person A wouldn't experience those symptoms because they didn't get to eat a cookie.
It's not the same, precisely because of what ^^Thorsmom^^ said.
You go to a NA meeting saying, "Hi I'm Joe Schmoe and I'm addicted to sugar." You'll get you *kitten* laughed outta there... :noway:
I don't know anyone who ever tried to melt a jelly donut on a spoon and shoot it up...or trade sexual favors for a pint of ice cream.0 -
Yes, operative word being "similar".0
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Or sell all your family's belongings to get some quick money for some chocolate.0
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Jersey__Devil wrote: »Lasmartchika wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »No.
If you've ever withdrawn from opiates , you wouldn't claim the feeling is the same.
I understand studies may show the same receptors are "lit" up, but that doesn't even compare.
Person A wants a cookie, doesn't get it.
person B is addicted to opiates and wants a fix but doesn't get it.
Person A would not go through the same withdraw symptoms as person b. Person B would be in extreme withdraw within hours and would experience symptoms like, vomiting, the shakes, diarrhea, pain and so on. Person A wouldn't experience those symptoms because they didn't get to eat a cookie.
It's not the same, precisely because of what ^^Thorsmom^^ said.
You go to a NA meeting saying, "Hi I'm Joe Schmoe and I'm addicted to sugar." You'll get you *kitten* laughed outta there... :noway:
I don't know anyone who ever tried to melt a jelly donut on a spoon and shoot it up...or trade sexual favors for a pint of ice cream.
Lol! I've come pretty darn close. Ice cream is something special for me.
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Blankly4200 wrote: »Jersey__Devil wrote: »I hate when people say this. its not even close.
Addiction comes in all forms. Anything is a risk for addiction
nah-- the word is overused. I believe obsessions can come in all forms, not addictions...addictions can take on many forms though0 -
Jersey__Devil wrote: »Lasmartchika wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »No.
If you've ever withdrawn from opiates , you wouldn't claim the feeling is the same.
I understand studies may show the same receptors are "lit" up, but that doesn't even compare.
Person A wants a cookie, doesn't get it.
person B is addicted to opiates and wants a fix but doesn't get it.
Person A would not go through the same withdraw symptoms as person b. Person B would be in extreme withdraw within hours and would experience symptoms like, vomiting, the shakes, diarrhea, pain and so on. Person A wouldn't experience those symptoms because they didn't get to eat a cookie.
It's not the same, precisely because of what ^^Thorsmom^^ said.
You go to a NA meeting saying, "Hi I'm Joe Schmoe and I'm addicted to sugar." You'll get you *kitten* laughed outta there... :noway:
I don't know anyone who ever tried to melt a jelly donut on a spoon and shoot it up...or trade sexual favors for a pint of ice cream.
Lol! I've come pretty darn close. Ice cream is something special for me.
alright..... cause I like you...the first pint is free... but we'll have to figure something out if you want more.0 -
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Lol OMG tears in my eyes @TrailBlazzinMN and @Jersey__Devil
I guess I set myself up for that one. But I'm not the only woman that loves her ice cream.0 -
My question has always been, if sugar is an addiction, being equated with substances like cocaine and heroin, then what do we DO about it? We could argue a blue streak (and often do), but I don't see anyone entering into a relationship with a nutritionist, setting up a support program, or going into inpatient treatment. While I'm going to get slammed about how unhealthy sugar is, Im still going to say I find it unfair to equate craving sugar with craving heroin, because sugar isn't going to kill you on the first hit.0
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I guess opinions and horrible analogies trump scientific studies once again.0
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TrailBlazzinMN wrote: »I guess opinions and horrible analogies trump scientific studies once again.
There are scientific studies that support both sides of the argument that have been posted all over the boards. I asked a legitimate question, out of genuine curiosity.
How is my analogy horrible? They're very different substances and equating them in order to make an argument is unfair. I'm not saying there is no argument for sugar addiction- I'm saying that's not a great one.0 -
I had a dietician and nutritionist when I was having trouble with sugar. They were the ones that initially pointed out that they thought I may be addicted. When we removed the sugar had bad aches and it made me extremely moody. So my point there is that, yes, there are people in the health industry that you do see for the symptoms and to help you cope.
I will also add that just because one "hit"'of sugar doesn't kill you doesn't mean it's not addictive. Nicotine is addictive and one pull typically doesn't kill you.0
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