Do you believe sugar cravings can be similar to drug addictions?

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  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    thorsmom01 wrote: »
    No.
    If you've ever withdrawn from opiates , you wouldn't claim the feeling is the same.
    I understand studies may show the same receptors are "lit" up, but that doesn't even compare.
    Person A wants a cookie, doesn't get it.
    person B is addicted to opiates and wants a fix but doesn't get it.

    Person A would not go through the same withdraw symptoms as person b. Person B would be in extreme withdraw within hours and would experience symptoms like, vomiting, the shakes, diarrhea, pain and so on. Person A wouldn't experience those symptoms because they didn't get to eat a cookie.

    It's not the same, precisely because of what ^^Thorsmom^^ said.

    You go to a NA meeting saying, "Hi I'm Joe Schmoe and I'm addicted to sugar." You'll get you *kitten* laughed outta there... :noway:

    I don't know anyone who ever tried to melt a jelly donut on a spoon and shoot it up...or trade sexual favors for a pint of ice cream.

    Because there is no need. If a junkie could buy their drug of choice in every grocery, supermarket and convenience store for a low price, would they still trade sex for it?

    They probably would if they had run out of money (from spending it on drugs) and still needed money for rent and more drugs.

    If the exact same situation were true of someone who feels they are addicted to sugar. All things equal. Are you certain they would never trade sex for candy?
    Never? Well, certainly there are people that have done sex work for food (whether it was candy or not, eh). It just isn't as common. And while I've heard tell that one of the soundest economics facts is that the cost of a sex act in NY is invariably the same price as a hit of cocaine in NY, I still don't think the illegality of drugs creating artificial scarcity perfectly explains the lengths people are willing to go to for them.
    Marijuana is about as illegal as cocaine in many areas, but people don't tend to do sex work as readily to obtain it.
  • mbaker566
    mbaker566 Posts: 11,233 Member
    Psychological addiction - I believe so. Just like gambling that the body has no necessary need for but the brain learns to gain satisfaction from it.
    Physiological addiction - I don't think so. I don't believe the body becomes dependent on sugar. I have not done much research at all, just my thought. If someone has studies, much better to go off.

    +1
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    Psychological addiction - I believe so. Just like gambling that the body has no necessary need for but the brain learns to gain satisfaction from it.
    Physiological addiction - I don't think so. I don't believe the body becomes dependent on sugar. I have not done much research at all, just my thought. If someone has studies, much better to go off.

    I think food can be a psychological addiction, but not sugar. If a person craved nothing but sugar, would things like milk or fruit satisfy the craving? The common denominator is usually foods that are high in sugar and fat, like pastries and candy.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    Drinking alcohol to excess actually causes a physical change to the cells in the body. When drinking is stopped suddenly, the person goes through an intensely painful process called delirium tremens. The person will hallucinate, vomit, urinate and defecate without control, drool, and often need to be intubated because of the excessive suffering. People get intensely violent, even toward people they care about deeply. the cells in the body are affecting the person on a physical level as they are in a severe need of the substance that changed them in the first place.
    People who eat a lot of sugar for a long time, and then stop eating it suddenly don't do any of that. Just because they get a little shaky from lack of energy or get a headache doesn't mean they have any understanding of the severe effects of any of the physical torture any addict suffers. Sugar doesn't change the cells of the body in any way, other than adding additional fat cells if eaten to excess.

    On this I agree with you 100%. You can't compare the magnitude of sugar withdrawal (if it exists at all) with alcohol withdrawal. But withdrawal from alcohol is the most extreme of all addictions, if this were your only criteria to determine addiction, (I've read other posts you've written so I know it's not), other recognized addictions might not qualify either. Gambling is the easy one to throw out there. Surely it is less offensive to consider possible withdrawal effects from abstaining from sugary foods than from abstaining from gambling. But I have also read that cocaine withdrawal symptoms are very mild, and that it is much more of a behavioral addiction (as PeacyCarol suggests sugar cravings may be a result of) than alcohol.

    But the OP did not ask us if we believed that sugar was an addictive substance. He asked if sugar cravings are similar to a drug addiction. The idea seems to me to be a good middle ground. Not addictive in a classical sense, but those damn cravings can have similarities with addiction.

    And to answer an earlier posters question, what's the benefit of viewing sugar cravings in a similar way to a drug addiction, my answer, in part, is that we may be able to borrow from the study and research that has been done on addictions and apply it to our own struggles. Below, for example, is an excerpt from Moderation Management that may be of interest to some.

    "Habits and urges go hand in hand. In fact, many people in the throes of an addictive behavior problem, whether it is overeating, drug use or alcohol abuse, claim that they derive no pleasure from their habit--that it is nothing but the relentless craving that fuels ongoing addictive behavior. What is usually most difficult for people when changing a bad habit is coping with the sometimes relentless urges. The initial days of a habit kicking plan can be exhausting as urges dominate thinking and interfere with daily routine. Many people give up change efforts because they feel that there is no way they can function without their habit as the urges interfere too much with quality of life.

    It is important to remember that urges, in and of themselves, are normal. We experience craving in varying degrees every day. And because your habit has been important to you for a long time, it may be unreasonable to expect urges to vanish completely. What is hoped is that you will come to experience urges with less frequency and that when they are experienced you will be able to react in a way that avoids relapse.

    The "three Ds" can be helpful in coping with urges and craving, 'whether these urges are related to alcohol or drug use, overeating, tobacco use or any habit you are attempting to change. The Ds stand for Decatastrophizing, Disputing expectancies and Distracting."

    Follow the link for the rest...
    http://www.moderation.org/faq/coping.shtml

    And finally, although it have by no means made up my mind, my link to a moderation management site might suggest I am on the side of moderation versus abstention. I'm exploring moderation, but right now I lean towards abstaining from your trigger foods.
    I don't think John was asking that if you boil it down to the lowest common denominator, do habits, craving, and enjoyable things have a commonality? It's a trivial question.
    As has been said, the human brain does tend to have a reward center and pattern that applies to things as diverse as
    Lighting up a crack pipe
    Eatting sugar
    Petting puppies
    Smiling at people
    Remembering that gold star your teacher gave you in 3rd grade
    Knifing your dealer so you can take his whole stash
    Thinking about what you're going to order at KFC
    Being intimate
    Cranking the handle on the one armed bandit and hoping you get 3 cherries this time, this time for sure, I know it, stop telling me the odds are fixed, I know my luck is different time, you downer
    The smell of really nice laundry detergent
    etc...

    Lol, did you have this reply ready or are you really this fast on your feet? Most amusing examples. So are we really arguing about magnitudes? We have different views about what the OP had in mind when he posted this question, maybe he will weigh in at some point.

    Oh, there's one or two guys one MFP who are possibly addicted to thinking they're clever.
    Puppies, sugar, drugs, and intimacy are boiler plate examples tossed about, but the little story lines an embellishment I find myself adding to posts lately. I seem to crave them.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    thorsmom01 wrote: »
    No.
    If you've ever withdrawn from opiates , you wouldn't claim the feeling is the same.
    I understand studies may show the same receptors are "lit" up, but that doesn't even compare.
    Person A wants a cookie, doesn't get it.
    person B is addicted to opiates and wants a fix but doesn't get it.

    Person A would not go through the same withdraw symptoms as person b. Person B would be in extreme withdraw within hours and would experience symptoms like, vomiting, the shakes, diarrhea, pain and so on. Person A wouldn't experience those symptoms because they didn't get to eat a cookie.

    It's not the same, precisely because of what ^^Thorsmom^^ said.

    You go to a NA meeting saying, "Hi I'm Joe Schmoe and I'm addicted to sugar." You'll get you *kitten* laughed outta there... :noway:

    I don't know anyone who ever tried to melt a jelly donut on a spoon and shoot it up...or trade sexual favors for a pint of ice cream.

    Because there is no need. If a junkie could buy their drug of choice in every grocery, supermarket and convenience store for a low price, would they still trade sex for it?

    They probably would if they had run out of money (from spending it on drugs) and still needed money for rent and more drugs.

    If the exact same situation were true of someone who feels they are addicted to sugar. All things equal. Are you certain they would never trade sex for candy?

    sex for candy sounds win-win.
    I think you've been listening to too much Marcy Playground.
  • kk_inprogress
    kk_inprogress Posts: 3,077 Member
    Psychological addiction - I believe so. Just like gambling that the body has no necessary need for but the brain learns to gain satisfaction from it.
    Physiological addiction - I don't think so. I don't believe the body becomes dependent on sugar. I have not done much research at all, just my thought. If someone has studies, much better to go off.

    I think food can be a psychological addiction, but not sugar. If a person craved nothing but sugar, would things like milk or fruit satisfy the craving? The common denominator is usually foods that are high in sugar and fat, like pastries and candy.

    Once again, physiological addiction requires a long term change in brain chemistry to exist. Sugar and high fat foods do no demonstrate this in any studies that have been done.
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  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    Since it is chit-chat, do we need to discuss which is the bigger turn off in a sex worker: meth teeth, or sugar rot teeth, tract marks from taking heroin, or tract markers from taking insulin, drug anorexia, or food obesity?
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    kkenseth wrote: »
    Psychological addiction - I believe so. Just like gambling that the body has no necessary need for but the brain learns to gain satisfaction from it.
    Physiological addiction - I don't think so. I don't believe the body becomes dependent on sugar. I have not done much research at all, just my thought. If someone has studies, much better to go off.

    I think food can be a psychological addiction, but not sugar. If a person craved nothing but sugar, would things like milk or fruit satisfy the craving? The common denominator is usually foods that are high in sugar and fat, like pastries and candy.

    Once again, physiological addiction requires a long term change in brain chemistry to exist. Sugar and high fat foods do no demonstrate this in any studies that have been done.

    I'm not disagreeing with that at all. In fact, I wholeheartedly agree. I am posing the question whether sugar by itself can be construed as a psychological addiction, since sugar can be found in many things like fruit, vegetables, and milk (albeit in small quanitites), and yet these things are usually not what people claim to be addicted to.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    thorsmom01 wrote: »
    No.
    If you've ever withdrawn from opiates , you wouldn't claim the feeling is the same.
    I understand studies may show the same receptors are "lit" up, but that doesn't even compare.
    Person A wants a cookie, doesn't get it.
    person B is addicted to opiates and wants a fix but doesn't get it.

    Person A would not go through the same withdraw symptoms as person b. Person B would be in extreme withdraw within hours and would experience symptoms like, vomiting, the shakes, diarrhea, pain and so on. Person A wouldn't experience those symptoms because they didn't get to eat a cookie.

    It's not the same, precisely because of what ^^Thorsmom^^ said.

    You go to a NA meeting saying, "Hi I'm Joe Schmoe and I'm addicted to sugar." You'll get you *kitten* laughed outta there... :noway:

    I don't know anyone who ever tried to melt a jelly donut on a spoon and shoot it up...or trade sexual favors for a pint of ice cream.

    Because there is no need. If a junkie could buy their drug of choice in every grocery, supermarket and convenience store for a low price, would they still trade sex for it?

    They probably would if they had run out of money (from spending it on drugs) and still needed money for rent and more drugs.

    If the exact same situation were true of someone who feels they are addicted to sugar. All things equal. Are you certain they would never trade sex for candy?
    Never? Well, certainly there are people that have done sex work for food (whether it was candy or not, eh). It just isn't as common. And while I've heard tell that one of the soundest economics facts is that the cost of a sex act in NY is invariably the same price as a hit of cocaine in NY, I still don't think the illegality of drugs creating artificial scarcity perfectly explains the lengths people are willing to go to for them.
    Marijuana is about as illegal as cocaine in many areas, but people don't tend to do sex work as readily to obtain it.

    My point was using lengths people will go to as an argument for why A is addictive and B is not is silly if A is illegal and B is both legal and widely available. It's pretty easy to get sugar with no money at all.
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  • kk_inprogress
    kk_inprogress Posts: 3,077 Member
    kkenseth wrote: »
    Psychological addiction - I believe so. Just like gambling that the body has no necessary need for but the brain learns to gain satisfaction from it.
    Physiological addiction - I don't think so. I don't believe the body becomes dependent on sugar. I have not done much research at all, just my thought. If someone has studies, much better to go off.

    I think food can be a psychological addiction, but not sugar. If a person craved nothing but sugar, would things like milk or fruit satisfy the craving? The common denominator is usually foods that are high in sugar and fat, like pastries and candy.

    Once again, physiological addiction requires a long term change in brain chemistry to exist. Sugar and high fat foods do no demonstrate this in any studies that have been done.

    I'm not disagreeing with that at all. In fact, I wholeheartedly agree. I am posing the question whether sugar by itself can be construed as a psychological addiction, since sugar can be found in many things like fruit, vegetables, and milk (albeit in small quanitites), and yet these things are usually not what people claim to be addicted to.

    Ohhh, got it. I read ya wrong. Good question...
  • kk_inprogress
    kk_inprogress Posts: 3,077 Member
    _DaniC wrote: »
    kkenseth wrote: »
    _DaniC wrote: »
    _DaniC wrote: »
    It can become an addiction so yeah, why not?

    How so?

    I would assume the 700 lb man that is too obese to leave his house, yet still eats an entire cake for breakfast would be able to answer that for you.

    You're right in saying this is an assumption. That person could become 700 pounds overeating ANYTHING. So, is food addictive? Most experts agree that it's a psychological or behavioral condition, not physical.

    I'm not saying sugar made him 700 lbs. I'm saying the cravings for the sugar would be similar to a drug addict. I'm not saying the withdrawal symptoms of someone addicted to sugar is the same as a meth or heroin addict, but the cravings would be similar to a variety of different drug addictions.

    From a psychological standpoint, sure.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    thorsmom01 wrote: »
    No.
    If you've ever withdrawn from opiates , you wouldn't claim the feeling is the same.
    I understand studies may show the same receptors are "lit" up, but that doesn't even compare.
    Person A wants a cookie, doesn't get it.
    person B is addicted to opiates and wants a fix but doesn't get it.

    Person A would not go through the same withdraw symptoms as person b. Person B would be in extreme withdraw within hours and would experience symptoms like, vomiting, the shakes, diarrhea, pain and so on. Person A wouldn't experience those symptoms because they didn't get to eat a cookie.

    It's not the same, precisely because of what ^^Thorsmom^^ said.

    You go to a NA meeting saying, "Hi I'm Joe Schmoe and I'm addicted to sugar." You'll get you *kitten* laughed outta there... :noway:

    I don't know anyone who ever tried to melt a jelly donut on a spoon and shoot it up...or trade sexual favors for a pint of ice cream.

    Because there is no need. If a junkie could buy their drug of choice in every grocery, supermarket and convenience store for a low price, would they still trade sex for it?

    They probably would if they had run out of money (from spending it on drugs) and still needed money for rent and more drugs.

    If the exact same situation were true of someone who feels they are addicted to sugar. All things equal. Are you certain they would never trade sex for candy?
    Never? Well, certainly there are people that have done sex work for food (whether it was candy or not, eh). It just isn't as common. And while I've heard tell that one of the soundest economics facts is that the cost of a sex act in NY is invariably the same price as a hit of cocaine in NY, I still don't think the illegality of drugs creating artificial scarcity perfectly explains the lengths people are willing to go to for them.
    Marijuana is about as illegal as cocaine in many areas, but people don't tend to do sex work as readily to obtain it.

    My point was using lengths people will go to as an argument for why A is addictive and B is not is silly if A is illegal and B is both legal and widely available. It's pretty easy to get sugar with no money at all.

    I thought the whole sex worker angle was also about showing it is easy to get drugs with no money at all? For various definitions of easy.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    Psychological addiction - I believe so. Just like gambling that the body has no necessary need for but the brain learns to gain satisfaction from it.
    Physiological addiction - I don't think so. I don't believe the body becomes dependent on sugar. I have not done much research at all, just my thought. If someone has studies, much better to go off.

    I think food can be a psychological addiction, but not sugar. If a person craved nothing but sugar, would things like milk or fruit satisfy the craving? The common denominator is usually foods that are high in sugar and fat, like pastries and candy.

    There was a poofed thread you might have enjoyed. What seems to be the more accepted concept is that there might be "eating" addiction, rather than food addiction. Eating as an activity being psychologically addictive - though applying to a much smaller population than the people using the term on MFP.
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  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    senecarr wrote: »
    thorsmom01 wrote: »
    No.
    If you've ever withdrawn from opiates , you wouldn't claim the feeling is the same.
    I understand studies may show the same receptors are "lit" up, but that doesn't even compare.
    Person A wants a cookie, doesn't get it.
    person B is addicted to opiates and wants a fix but doesn't get it.

    Person A would not go through the same withdraw symptoms as person b. Person B would be in extreme withdraw within hours and would experience symptoms like, vomiting, the shakes, diarrhea, pain and so on. Person A wouldn't experience those symptoms because they didn't get to eat a cookie.

    It's not the same, precisely because of what ^^Thorsmom^^ said.

    You go to a NA meeting saying, "Hi I'm Joe Schmoe and I'm addicted to sugar." You'll get you *kitten* laughed outta there... :noway:

    I don't know anyone who ever tried to melt a jelly donut on a spoon and shoot it up...or trade sexual favors for a pint of ice cream.

    Because there is no need. If a junkie could buy their drug of choice in every grocery, supermarket and convenience store for a low price, would they still trade sex for it?

    They probably would if they had run out of money (from spending it on drugs) and still needed money for rent and more drugs.

    If the exact same situation were true of someone who feels they are addicted to sugar. All things equal. Are you certain they would never trade sex for candy?
    Never? Well, certainly there are people that have done sex work for food (whether it was candy or not, eh). It just isn't as common. And while I've heard tell that one of the soundest economics facts is that the cost of a sex act in NY is invariably the same price as a hit of cocaine in NY, I still don't think the illegality of drugs creating artificial scarcity perfectly explains the lengths people are willing to go to for them.
    Marijuana is about as illegal as cocaine in many areas, but people don't tend to do sex work as readily to obtain it.

    My point was using lengths people will go to as an argument for why A is addictive and B is not is silly if A is illegal and B is both legal and widely available. It's pretty easy to get sugar with no money at all.

    I thought the whole sex worker angle was also about showing it is easy to get drugs with no money at all? For various definitions of easy.

    Now you are just being contrary. It's easy to get sugar without sex or money or anything at all in trade. Better?
  • melimomTARDIS
    melimomTARDIS Posts: 1,941 Member
    I guess opinions and horrible analogies trump scientific studies once again.

    Scientific studies in RATS. Post the studies in humans. Full literature reviews of studies in humans do not support the finding of any food being addictive as a substance.

    Now, if you want to talk about eating as a behavioral addiction, I might agree with you.

    i agree with peaches. I think people can develop compulsions or addictions to behavior. I have been known to binge eat under certain circumstances, and it isnt the food itself that causes the binge, its my crappy coping mechanism.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    senecarr wrote: »
    thorsmom01 wrote: »
    No.
    If you've ever withdrawn from opiates , you wouldn't claim the feeling is the same.
    I understand studies may show the same receptors are "lit" up, but that doesn't even compare.
    Person A wants a cookie, doesn't get it.
    person B is addicted to opiates and wants a fix but doesn't get it.

    Person A would not go through the same withdraw symptoms as person b. Person B would be in extreme withdraw within hours and would experience symptoms like, vomiting, the shakes, diarrhea, pain and so on. Person A wouldn't experience those symptoms because they didn't get to eat a cookie.

    It's not the same, precisely because of what ^^Thorsmom^^ said.

    You go to a NA meeting saying, "Hi I'm Joe Schmoe and I'm addicted to sugar." You'll get you *kitten* laughed outta there... :noway:

    I don't know anyone who ever tried to melt a jelly donut on a spoon and shoot it up...or trade sexual favors for a pint of ice cream.

    Because there is no need. If a junkie could buy their drug of choice in every grocery, supermarket and convenience store for a low price, would they still trade sex for it?

    They probably would if they had run out of money (from spending it on drugs) and still needed money for rent and more drugs.

    If the exact same situation were true of someone who feels they are addicted to sugar. All things equal. Are you certain they would never trade sex for candy?
    Never? Well, certainly there are people that have done sex work for food (whether it was candy or not, eh). It just isn't as common. And while I've heard tell that one of the soundest economics facts is that the cost of a sex act in NY is invariably the same price as a hit of cocaine in NY, I still don't think the illegality of drugs creating artificial scarcity perfectly explains the lengths people are willing to go to for them.
    Marijuana is about as illegal as cocaine in many areas, but people don't tend to do sex work as readily to obtain it.

    My point was using lengths people will go to as an argument for why A is addictive and B is not is silly if A is illegal and B is both legal and widely available. It's pretty easy to get sugar with no money at all.

    I thought the whole sex worker angle was also about showing it is easy to get drugs with no money at all? For various definitions of easy.

    Now you are just being contrary. It's easy to get sugar without sex or money or anything at all in trade. Better?

    Sure, chit-chat is full of people willing to give others a little sugar. Wait, is that sex trade still?
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    I guess opinions and horrible analogies trump scientific studies once again.

    Scientific studies in RATS. Post the studies in humans. Full literature reviews of studies in humans do not support the finding of any food being addictive as a substance.

    Now, if you want to talk about eating as a behavioral addiction, I might agree with you.

    i agree with peaches. I think people can develop compulsions or addictions to behavior. I have been known to binge eat under certain circumstances, and it isnt the food itself that causes the binge, its my crappy coping mechanism.

    Exactly! Overeating is always almost always a mask for some other behavioral issue. People don't want to face the truth of the fact that the easiest path when having mental or emotional problems is to deal with them by covering with behavior. This usually leads to things like gambling, overeating, sexual behaviors, etc. All of these so-called psychological 'addictions' are nothing more than behavioral issues which need to be treated with therapy to discover the underlying problem.
  • cmcollins001
    cmcollins001 Posts: 3,472 Member
    The only thing I've learned from this thread is that I need to invest in an ice cream truck.
  • cmcollins001
    cmcollins001 Posts: 3,472 Member
    Ok, here's a serious comment/question:

    If sugar cravings and drug addictions are the same/similar - does a baby born from a mother who is suffering from sugar cravings going to have the same addiction? Babies born from drug addicted mothers often show signs of addiction themselves, does this hold true with sugar addiction?
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    The only thing I've learned from this thread is that I need to invest in an ice cream truck.
    heisen_brrr_g_crunch.jpg

  • emhunter
    emhunter Posts: 1,212 Member
    Ok, here's a serious comment/question:

    If sugar cravings and drug addictions are the same/similar - does a baby born from a mother who is suffering from sugar cravings going to have the same addiction? Babies born from drug addicted mothers often show signs of addiction themselves, does this hold true with sugar addiction?

    I dont know. Not even sure if this study has been done.

    I will say that people that are addicted to gambling or sex or food, the baby doesn't show signs of addiction to gambling or sex or food.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    Ok, here's a serious comment/question:

    If sugar cravings and drug addictions are the same/similar - does a baby born from a mother who is suffering from sugar cravings going to have the same addiction? Babies born from drug addicted mothers often show signs of addiction themselves, does this hold true with sugar addiction?

    No, but interestingly, if a person is undergoing a famine during pregnancy, it does predict higher chance of obesity and metabolic syndrome in the baby in childhood and adulthood.
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    Ok, here's a serious comment/question:

    If sugar cravings and drug addictions are the same/similar - does a baby born from a mother who is suffering from sugar cravings going to have the same addiction? Babies born from drug addicted mothers often show signs of addiction themselves, does this hold true with sugar addiction?

    It's been acknowledged by the folks in this thread that there is a difference between psychological and physiological addictions.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    emhunter wrote: »
    Ok, here's a serious comment/question:

    If sugar cravings and drug addictions are the same/similar - does a baby born from a mother who is suffering from sugar cravings going to have the same addiction? Babies born from drug addicted mothers often show signs of addiction themselves, does this hold true with sugar addiction?

    I dont know. Not even sure if this study has been done.

    I will say that people that are addicted to gambling or sex or food, the baby doesn't show signs of addiction to gambling or sex or food.
    Well that's enough internet for me today.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    IMO, for the most part, "I'm addicted to carbs" or "I'm addicted to sugar" or "I'm addicted to fast food" is just code for "I don't have any self control".

    I'm addicted to "X" is far overused and IMO, has just become a socially acceptable excuse to absolve personal responsibility for just about anything.
  • kk_inprogress
    kk_inprogress Posts: 3,077 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    emhunter wrote: »
    Ok, here's a serious comment/question:

    If sugar cravings and drug addictions are the same/similar - does a baby born from a mother who is suffering from sugar cravings going to have the same addiction? Babies born from drug addicted mothers often show signs of addiction themselves, does this hold true with sugar addiction?

    I dont know. Not even sure if this study has been done.

    I will say that people that are addicted to gambling or sex or food, the baby doesn't show signs of addiction to gambling or sex or food.
    Well that's enough internet for me today.

    :joy:
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