Do you believe sugar cravings can be similar to drug addictions?

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  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    summerkissed wrote: »
    Definition of Addiction – a state characterized by compulsive engagement in rewarding stimuli despite adverse consequences

    Yes sugar does come into this. Is it as bad as drugs?? It depends on the person! Depends on the level of addiction and dependency! No 2 people are the same! I had a friend give up drugs, headaches, hot sweats, sleep problems.....I've also trained girls who go through the same with sugar!
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  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    senecarr wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    IMO, for the most part, "I'm addicted to carbs" or "I'm addicted to sugar" or "I'm addicted to fast food" is just code for "I don't have any self control".

    I'm addicted to "X" is far overused and IMO, has just become a socially acceptable excuse to absolve personal responsibility for just about anything.

    How does that differ from "I'm addicted to cigarettes" being code for "I don't have any self control"? Isn't self control what is needed to break any addiction?

    Edit: Or restraint - but that would also work for sugar as well as drugs.

    you do realize that people coming off of narcotics, alcohol, etc can actually die from withdrawal right? i think it goes a little beyond wanting a cookie.

    you people are fecking ridiculous.

    So, is that the criteria for addiction? If the withdrawls can't kill you it's not an addiction?

    you should change your name to "Need4Excuses"
    To be fair, I think Need2 is discussing more with an eye towards sympathy and compassion rather than a self diagnosed sugar addiction.

    perhaps...i'm interpreting what she's saying as basically everything is addictive and thus we're all addicts to something, which I don't buy for a second.

    i love cycling...it gets my endorphins going and i get a great high...i miss it when i can't ride, but i wouldn't consider my passion an addiction...but the way i'm interpreting Need2 is that indeed it would be, just like drugs.

    i just don't buy this everyone's addicted to everything stuff and that there's no difference between craving a cookie and needing a shot of heroin. i have a very close friend who is a heroin addict and likely he will OD one day...and sorry...but it's a whole lot different than "I'm addicted to fast food." or craving a cookie I just don't buy it.

    No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm just pointing out the silliness used to try and "prove" something is not addictive.

    'My addiction has worse symptoms than you could ever have so you can't be addicted' sounds as ridiculous to me as 'I have cancer so you are not sick with your common cold'.

    meh...i would say that craving a cookie and calling it an addiction would be more in line with someone having the sniffles and thinking they have cancer rather than just a cold and they don't feel very good.

    nobody is saying that breaking habits isn't hard...but that doesn't mean they're actual addictions.
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  • kk_inprogress
    kk_inprogress Posts: 3,077 Member
    summerkissed wrote: »
    Definition of Addiction – a state characterized by compulsive engagement in rewarding stimuli despite adverse consequences

    Yes sugar does come into this. Is it as bad as drugs?? It depends on the person! Depends on the level of addiction and dependency! No 2 people are the same! I had a friend give up drugs, headaches, hot sweats, sleep problems.....I've also trained girls who go through the same with sugar!

    Once again, I'd agree with behavioral addiction based on reward. But I feel your friend having the keto flu is hardly comparable to someone detoxing from a chemical substance that has long term effects on brain chemistry and function.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    senecarr wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    IMO, for the most part, "I'm addicted to carbs" or "I'm addicted to sugar" or "I'm addicted to fast food" is just code for "I don't have any self control".

    I'm addicted to "X" is far overused and IMO, has just become a socially acceptable excuse to absolve personal responsibility for just about anything.

    How does that differ from "I'm addicted to cigarettes" being code for "I don't have any self control"? Isn't self control what is needed to break any addiction?

    Edit: Or restraint - but that would also work for sugar as well as drugs.

    you do realize that people coming off of narcotics, alcohol, etc can actually die from withdrawal right? i think it goes a little beyond wanting a cookie.

    you people are fecking ridiculous.

    So, is that the criteria for addiction? If the withdrawls can't kill you it's not an addiction?

    you should change your name to "Need4Excuses"
    To be fair, I think Need2 is discussing more with an eye towards sympathy and compassion rather than a self diagnosed sugar addiction.

    perhaps...i'm interpreting what she's saying as basically everything is addictive and thus we're all addicts to something, which I don't buy for a second.

    i love cycling...it gets my endorphins going and i get a great high...i miss it when i can't ride, but i wouldn't consider my passion an addiction...but the way i'm interpreting Need2 is that indeed it would be, just like drugs.

    i just don't buy this everyone's addicted to everything stuff and that there's no difference between craving a cookie and needing a shot of heroin. i have a very close friend who is a heroin addict and likely he will OD one day...and sorry...but it's a whole lot different than "I'm addicted to fast food." or craving a cookie I just don't buy it.

    I actually use exercise as illustrative in the same way.
    Endorphins comes from endogenous morphine because morphine and the receptor it affects were found before endorphins were discovered (scientists were left scratching heads about why the body has receptors for a man made drug initially).
    So heroin is chemically similar to endorphins to an extent similar to cocaine and food causing the same brain chemistry. Yet, I see many more MFP threads about sugar and carb addiction than I see exercise addiction threads. Odd, isn't it?
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    summerkissed wrote: »
    Yes!.....and don't get between me and a peice of chocolate when I have a craving!!! OMG I'll knock you to the ground with a zombie look on my face!!

    Yes, the what would you do for a Klondike bar has been brought up.
    So far, no one has confessed to committing sex work as the answer.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    summerkissed wrote: »
    Yes!.....and don't get between me and a peice of chocolate when I have a craving!!! OMG I'll knock you to the ground with a zombie look on my face!!

    Yes, the what would you do for a Klondike bar has been brought up.
    So far, no one has confessed to committing sex work as the answer.

    I personally might cause actual physical harm to a person who was placing a piece of candy over the safety and well-being of another person.
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