I'm a geek: I read 2 atkins books this week.
Sabine_Stroehm
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I had previously read several South Beach Diet books, and of course, my favorite, all things Michael Pollan.
I read the Dukan Diet. I've read Wheat Belly, Good Calories etc, paleo books, nutritarian books, the china study.......
I read for fun. While I'm working out (okay, mostly I listen).
This week I read (or re-read) Atkins New Diet Revolution, and re-read Atkins Essentials. And am currently re-reading The New Atkins for the New you
BOY was that an eye opener.
I live in academia, so I get "read the original source". But boy was it good for me to "read the original source". when it comes to low carb dieting (and LFHC).
Not quite the baconfest it's made out to be.
I have "The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living" in my queue, but it's Kindle, not Audible, which means it's a road trip book.
It's a good reminder for me to go back and READ the original sources.
I'm menopausal, and believe (based on the evidence) that menopause has some insulin consequences, so this is all interesting to me.
I read the Dukan Diet. I've read Wheat Belly, Good Calories etc, paleo books, nutritarian books, the china study.......
I read for fun. While I'm working out (okay, mostly I listen).
This week I read (or re-read) Atkins New Diet Revolution, and re-read Atkins Essentials. And am currently re-reading The New Atkins for the New you
BOY was that an eye opener.
I live in academia, so I get "read the original source". But boy was it good for me to "read the original source". when it comes to low carb dieting (and LFHC).
Not quite the baconfest it's made out to be.
I have "The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living" in my queue, but it's Kindle, not Audible, which means it's a road trip book.
It's a good reminder for me to go back and READ the original sources.
I'm menopausal, and believe (based on the evidence) that menopause has some insulin consequences, so this is all interesting to me.
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LOL You can go back even further if you like. Here is the Letter on Corpulence by William Banting (1869).
http://www.citigraphics.net/citigrafx/stories/food/Banting Book.PDF0 -
LOL You can go back even further if you like. Here is the Letter on Corpulence by William Banting (1869).
http://www.citigraphics.net/citigrafx/stories/food/Banting Book.PDF
I've read that!!! It was great fun to read!0 -
A book thread, awesome! What else are you interested in? Any genre or do you just like diet and fitness? This will be fun!!0
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Oh tons of things!queenliz99 wrote: »A book thread, awesome! What else are you interested in? Any genre or do you just like diet and fitness? This will be fun!!
All over the place genre wise.
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LOL Yep.
I liked Atkins books too. I'm a bit of a geek myself... I recently read Keto Clarity, The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living, Alzhemer's Disease: What if There Was a Cure?, Keto Power, Why We get Fat and What to Do About it. Wahl's Protocol, and The Ketogenic Diet: A Scientifically Proven Approach to Fast, Healthy Weight Loss.
Keto Power and The Ketogenic Diet books I found to be less helpful. Wahl's and the alzheimer's books were very interesting as to what the diet can do for health problems not related to weight.
I'm trying to find Eat Fat, Lose Fat by Enig, but I can't locate it yet.0 -
LOL Yep.
I liked Atkins books too. I'm a bit of a geek myself... I recently read Keto Clarity, The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living, Alzhemer's Disease: What if There Was a Cure?, Keto Power, Why We get Fat and What to Do About it. Wahl's Protocol, and The Ketogenic Diet: A Scientifically Proven Approach to Fast, Healthy Weight Loss.
Keto Power and The Ketogenic Diet books I found to be less helpful. Wahl's and the alzheimer's books were very interesting as to what the diet can do for health problems not related to weight.
I'm trying to find Eat Fat, Lose Fat by Enig, but I can't locate it yet.
I read keto clarity (audible) and returned it. I disliked that one. I love that audible lets me return books.
In my world: Before the Change: Taking Charge of your Perimenopause is great, as is, of course, What your Doctor May Not Tell you about Menopause.
And on the fiction front: Dr. Sleep is the best novel I've read in the last few years.0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »A book thread, awesome! What else are you interested in? Any genre or do you just like diet and fitness? This will be fun!!
I love reading! I've read so many books..... if it's going to derail to discuss other books, we can go start another thread. OP? Do you want to talk about other genres?0 -
I'm good either way. Just wanted to stress the importance of reading the original source, because MAN is atkins NOT what it's made out to be. :-) (which I suspected, of course)
One of the reasons I returned keto clarity is his false information. He referred to south beach as low carb and low fat and blathered on about that, which it's NOT.0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »A book thread, awesome! What else are you interested in? Any genre or do you just like diet and fitness? This will be fun!!
I love reading! I've read so many books..... if it's going to derail to discuss other books, we can go start another thread. OP? Do you want to talk about other genres?
I love reading too!! Yes, OP! Whatcha think?
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Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »I'm good either way. Just wanted to stress the importance of reading the original source, because MAN is atkins NOT what it's made out to be. :-) (which I suspected, of course)
One of the reasons I returned keto clarity is his false information. He referred to south beach as low carb and low fat and blathered on about that, which it's NOT.
Moore does phrase everything in terms of his own experiences in Keto Clarity. I skimmed a fair bit of that one too.
I too like going back to the sources when I can. Another reason Ket Clarity was just an okay book.
I also read That Sugar Book (I think that was the title) which was a spin off of That Sugar Film. A neat idea but it's just fluff with a tiny spattering of science. Not worth the time.
I'm also reading The Ask and Answer (a series my son wanted to read which I thought might be a bit old for him), Saint Odd, and a couple of really nice cookbooks on bacon. LOL
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Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »I'm good either way. Just wanted to stress the importance of reading the original source, because MAN is atkins NOT what it's made out to be. :-) (which I suspected, of course)
One of the reasons I returned keto clarity is his false information. He referred to south beach as low carb and low fat and blathered on about that, which it's NOT.
Moore does phrase everything in terms of his own experiences in Keto Clarity.
And that's exactly it. I bet he's never read the south beach diet.
While keto clarity was a fun adventure, it read like "one man's journey" not a guide to health.0 -
Another one I read, a while back, was the power of habit. Good stuff.0
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I've heard good things about The Power of Habit. I have a hold on it at the library!
Ooh! Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking was a great read for me.0 -
I also love to read, but mine is mostly in genres that would derail this thread, so I'll just say it's been awhile since I've read a dietary book. I'm in, though, because this looks like an interesting thread to follow.
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This Is Why You're Fat (And How to Get Thin Forever) by Jackie Warner. This was the last diet book I read about 3 years ago. Interesting read.
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Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »Another one I read, a while back, was the power of habit. Good stuff.
Excellent book.
I also like Brian Wansink for health and fitness stuff. Liked Sugar Salt Fat and am reading Yoni Freedhoff's Diet Fix (I read diet books although I think they are largely pointless, who knows why). And as always I recommend Matt Fitzgerald's Diet Cults. I also found Rich Roll's book kind of inspirational, although we have very different approaches (and I don't see myself doing some of the athletic feats he has).
Fun genre fiction I've read recently (not great lit, but I enjoyed them): Pretty Is and The Girl With All the Gifts.0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »I'm good either way. Just wanted to stress the importance of reading the original source, because MAN is atkins NOT what it's made out to be. :-) (which I suspected, of course)
Most people I see going on about bacon on low carb diets are, well, low carbers.
Having done paleo briefly, I know there's a backlash in the paleo world about how bacon is promoted by many as a healthy thing in paleo-land, and I'm not surprised there's such in low carb-ville, nor that it wasn't part of the original Atkins plan (in fact I knew that, since I recall when Atkins was big in the early '00s, just before the South Beach craze).
But here's a pretty good discussion between Taubes and another science writer that shows that Taubes does, in fact, promote a more stereotypical low carb diet (as do lots of low carbers I know, as I mentioned): http://bloggingheads.tv/videos/2981
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Try;
Death by food pyramid, by Denise Minger.
The big fat surprise, by Nina Teicholtz.
Pure white and deadly, by John Yudkin.
The great cholesterol con, by Dr Malcolm Kendrick.0 -
I miss being able to read a book. The consequences of glaucoma/cataracts.0
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Have you read "Protein Power" by the Drs Eads?
That was the one that started me on the LC lifestyle0 -
Nearly all these books are trash. Just read The Martian. At least that book knows it is fiction from the start.0
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Diet Cults was a very good book.
I currently have Mindless Eating downloaded into my Nook for later reading. I enjoyed listening to Brian Wansink on the Sigma Nutriton podcast.0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »LOL You can go back even further if you like. Here is the Letter on Corpulence by William Banting (1869).
http://www.citigraphics.net/citigrafx/stories/food/Banting Book.PDF
I've read that!!! It was great fun to read!
Going back even further than Banting:
Brillat-Savarin The physiology of Taste
First published in France in 1825
" 'Oh Heavens!' all you readers of both sexes will cry out, 'oh Heavens above! But what a wretch the Professor is! Here in a single word he forbids us everything we must love, those little white rolls from Limet, and Achard's cakes and those cookies, and a hundred things made with flour and butter, with flour and sugar, with flour and sugar and eggs!"
He doesn't even leave us potatoes or macaroni! Who would have thought this of a lover of good food who seemed so pleasant?
" 'What's this I hear?' I exclaim, putting on my severest face, which I do perhaps once a year. 'Very well then; eat! Get fat! Become ugly and thick, and asthmatic, finally die in your own melted grease.'"0 -
echmainfit619 wrote: »Nearly all these books are trash. Just read The Martian. At least that book knows it is fiction from the start.
So you have read them all.
That's great, as I guess stating, 'nearly all these books are trash' without having read them would be construed as commenting from a position of ignorance and only an fool would do that.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »I'm good either way. Just wanted to stress the importance of reading the original source, because MAN is atkins NOT what it's made out to be. :-) (which I suspected, of course)
Most people I see going on about bacon on low carb diets are, well, low carbers.
Having done paleo briefly, I know there's a backlash in the paleo world about how bacon is promoted by many as a healthy thing in paleo-land, and I'm not surprised there's such in low carb-ville, nor that it wasn't part of the original Atkins plan (in fact I knew that, since I recall when Atkins was big in the early '00s, just before the South Beach craze).
But here's a pretty good discussion between Taubes and another science writer that shows that Taubes does, in fact, promote a more stereotypical low carb diet (as do lots of low carbers I know, as I mentioned): http://bloggingheads.tv/videos/2981
I mentioned doing a low carb experiment (for menopause) in a group recently and was told I was going to be eating only protein and ruining my kidneys.
I see plenty of threads on here where non-low carbers say Atkins is all about meat.
And bacon in particular. There are actually cautions about meats like bacon in the Atkins materials.
REGARDLESS, it's not. It talks more about nutrient dense vegetables than many other books I've read.
And perhaps low carb, or controlled carbohydrate diets wouldn't seem like such an unsustainable thing if they were understood.
Yes, there's fruit, sometimes there's even, gasp, bread!
In a way, Atkins seems like "fischer price my first low carb diet" and THAT'S OKAY! It's better to learn than make stupid decisions. (I feel that way about many formal diets: learn the diet you're going to follow).
Taubes: an entertaining journalist who, like most journalists, sometimes gets it right, and sometimes gets it wrong.
I assume Pollan gets it wrong sometimes too, but he's not quite the ideologue Taubes is.
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echmainfit619 wrote: »Nearly all these books are trash. Just read The Martian. At least that book knows it is fiction from the start.
You've read them? Great, let's discuss them.0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »LOL You can go back even further if you like. Here is the Letter on Corpulence by William Banting (1869).
http://www.citigraphics.net/citigrafx/stories/food/Banting Book.PDF
I've read that!!! It was great fun to read!
Going back even further than Banting:
Brillat-Savarin The physiology of Taste
First published in France in 1825
" 'Oh Heavens!' all you readers of both sexes will cry out, 'oh Heavens above! But what a wretch the Professor is! Here in a single word he forbids us everything we must love, those little white rolls from Limet, and Achard's cakes and those cookies, and a hundred things made with flour and butter, with flour and sugar, with flour and sugar and eggs!"
He doesn't even leave us potatoes or macaroni! Who would have thought this of a lover of good food who seemed so pleasant?
" 'What's this I hear?' I exclaim, putting on my severest face, which I do perhaps once a year. 'Very well then; eat! Get fat! Become ugly and thick, and asthmatic, finally die in your own melted grease.'"
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »Another one I read, a while back, was the power of habit. Good stuff.
Excellent book.
I also like Brian Wansink for health and fitness stuff. Liked Sugar Salt Fat and am reading Yoni Freedhoff's Diet Fix (I read diet books although I think they are largely pointless, who knows why). And as always I recommend Matt Fitzgerald's Diet Cults. I also found Rich Roll's book kind of inspirational, although we have very different approaches (and I don't see myself doing some of the athletic feats he has).
Fun genre fiction I've read recently (not great lit, but I enjoyed them): Pretty Is and The Girl With All the Gifts.
I should put sugar salt fat on my list.
Diet Cults is on my list.
And I just bought The Big Fat Surprise.0 -
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