Diet soda? Really that bad?
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michaela_g09 wrote: »
With all due respect, the MFP blog is well known to publish a bunch of ridiculous derp. I wouldn't let my 4th grader use it as a source for a "what I did over summer vacation" essay.0 -
michaela_g09 wrote: »
Hard pressed to believe that the reason I would eat a pint of Ben and Jerry's in one sitting is because I had a Diet Dew with lunch...0 -
Diet soda is only bad if it's Diet Pepsi.0
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Diet Ginger Ale is good. I also drink flavored club soda for the fizzies. My dentist prefers that I drink diet instead of regular Coke so I'm going to go with his opinion.0
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Pro diet soda because PEER REVIEWED CLINICAL STUDIES don't show it's detrimental even if you have it daily.Wow. I'm kind of amazed by this thread. Lots of pro- diet soda people out there.
As a kid I got totally addicted to diet coke. I'm talking addicted. Didn't feel healthy, didn't feel right. I think there is some bad stuff inside those cans. But thats just like, my opinion, man...
Not sure it's so clear - http://www.bmj.com/content/351/bmj.h3576 "Habitual consumption of sugar sweetened beverages was associated with a greater incidence of type 2 diabetes, independently of adiposity. Although artificially sweetened beverages and fruit juice also showed positive associations with incidence of type 2 diabetes, the findings were likely to involve bias. None the less, both artificially sweetened beverages and fruit juice were unlikely to be healthy alternatives to sugar sweetened beverages for the prevention of type 2 diabetes."
More from the full text.
"When we examined the potential influence of residual confounding by measured adiposity, bias towards the null appeared substantial for artificially sweetened beverages (see supplementary figure S4). Under a realistic assumption of a correlation of 0.80 between measured and true adiposity,36 the association for sugar sweetened beverages was attenuated by 26% (relative risk 1.20, 1.04 to 1.38), for artificially sweetened beverages was attenuated by 96% (1.01, 0.81 to 1.25), and for fruit juice was strengthened by 19% (1.12, 1.03 to 1.22)."
"We rated the evidence for artificially sweetened beverages and fruit juice to be of low quality. Findings for artificially sweetened beverages were likely to have publication bias and residual confounding; and for fruit juice, the positive association was not stable and varied by study design."
"Reverse causality could also exist because of unmeasured comorbid conditions and health consciousness that might alter consumption of beverages, particularly artificially sweetened ones, and risk of type 2 diabetes."
"Our analysis indicated possible publication bias for the associations between artificially sweetened beverages and type 2 diabetes. The bias toward a false positive finding would be plausible according to existing public interest over the health effects.6 77 The finding at least underscores potential low quality of evidence and the need for cautious interpretation. Residual confounding in the finding for artificially sweetened beverages is also plausible because adults at high risk of type 2 diabetes preferentially consumed more artificially sweetened beverages."
"None the less, the lower caloric intake of artificially sweetened beverages may be of clinical benefit in obese or overweight adults by helping to reduce body weight.6 78 This effect on body weight should be considered separately from our study, which could not rule out the effect of body weight on beverage consumption."
I still don't get why they're saying it's not a healthy alternative to sugary drinks after all those parts in their study.0 -
What about Diet Dr. Pepper?0
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I_Will_End_You wrote: »Diet soda is only bad if it's Diet Pepsi.
AMEN!0 -
I_Will_End_You wrote: »Diet soda is only bad if it's Diet Pepsi.
Pepsi is what you buy when they dont have coke
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Christine_72 wrote: »I_Will_End_You wrote: »Diet soda is only bad if it's Diet Pepsi.
Pepsi is what you buy when they dont have coke
I still don't understand why waiters give me weird looks when I order a coke, they ask if pepsi is ok, and instead I ask for water...0 -
Christine_72 wrote: »I_Will_End_You wrote: »Diet soda is only bad if it's Diet Pepsi.
Pepsi is what you buy when they dont have coke
I still don't understand why waiters give me weird looks when I order a coke, they ask if pepsi is ok, and instead I ask for water...
Pepsi tastes like watered down flat coke to me... I'd much prefer water
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I_Will_End_You wrote: »Diet soda is only bad if it's Diet Pepsi.
agree it just isnt right, same as pepsi max
coke zero all the way for me
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An interesting story - Years ago, because Coke was losing soft drink market share to Pepsi, they did taste tests. They found that consumers preferred Pepsi to Coke. They also found that consumers preferred Diet Coke's flavor over Coke (yes, Diet Coke has an intentionally different flavor than regular Coke), though Pepsi still beat out both Diet Coke and Coke.
Because the flavor of Diet Coke was better than that of Coke and because Coca-Cola did not own the rights to the flavor most preferred by consumers in taste tests, the strategy was clear. Coke would start making the caloric beverage (Coke) with the flavor of Diet Coke. They knew it would be a hit because they had already done taste testing that proved consumers loved the taste. So the new product with calories (sugar & HFCS) and Diet Coke flavor was created and marketed as New Coke. A fight of taste over nostalgia occurred, and nostalgia won. Coca-Cola brought back the original Coke flavor and called it Classic Coke. This flavor is on the shelf today in caloric form. The flavor of New Coke / Diet Coke is also on store shelves in non-caloric form as Diet Coke. I've heard that the New Coke flavor exists in caloric form in some countries, but I'm not sure which countries would have it.
I personally prefer Diet Pepsi.0 -
I'm not sold on the Diet Pepsi without aspertame. I always prefer Pepsi Max or Coke Zero to the other diets, but this formula change has been disappointing.0
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Christine_72 wrote: »I_Will_End_You wrote: »Diet soda is only bad if it's Diet Pepsi.
Pepsi is what you buy when they dont have coke
When they don't have Coke, I go with water!0 -
More pepsi for me then.0
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It's like 7 up doesn't exist0
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Can anyone from Australia answer this.
Why isn't diet vanilla coke sold everywhere coke is?
Coles/woolies sell coke, diet, zero, vanilla, caffeine free etc but not diet vanilla?
I have found one petrol station that sold it but now they haven't for weeks.0 -
Can anyone from Australia answer this.
Why isn't diet vanilla coke sold everywhere coke is?
Coles/woolies sell coke, diet, zero, vanilla, caffeine free etc but not diet vanilla?
I have found one petrol station that sold it but now they haven't for weeks.
Because we have cottoned on that Diet Vanilla Coke is a vile, evil thing that should actually goes against the Geneva convention regarding torture?
I hate full-strength coke, and only drink diet - unless I'm drinking Vanilla Coke
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Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »So I have read how horrible regular soda is but how about diet soda? Every time I have one I feel like I crave sugar afterwards. Does anyone else feel the same way? I need to kick the habit of drinking it! Any suggestions?
Have you tried kombucha? It's lo cal and fizzy, it's actually good for you, probiotics, healthy acids etc.
I am not habitual with diet soda, but for a few times in college. I remembered thinking I associated it with weight gain. I'm not sure how, but I think that's legitimate. Well anyway, I question that they are very good for you!
How can you gain weight from diet soda when it has no calories?
I have read that it can raise your blood sugar. For me, weight loss is not just about losing weight, but about results.0 -
Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »So I have read how horrible regular soda is but how about diet soda? Every time I have one I feel like I crave sugar afterwards. Does anyone else feel the same way? I need to kick the habit of drinking it! Any suggestions?
Have you tried kombucha? It's lo cal and fizzy, it's actually good for you, probiotics, healthy acids etc.
I am not habitual with diet soda, but for a few times in college. I remembered thinking I associated it with weight gain. I'm not sure how, but I think that's legitimate. Well anyway, I question that they are very good for you!
How can you gain weight from diet soda when it has no calories?
I have read that it can raise your blood sugar. For me, weight loss is not just about losing weight, but about results.
I have read that a jolly fat guy in a red suit comes down chimneys to give kids gifts once a year..... Must be true then!
In other words, don't believe everything you read. How does something with no calories hinder weight loss? (Hint-it doesn't).
Also-if is raised blood sugar, why would the diabetes association reccomend it?0 -
Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »So I have read how horrible regular soda is but how about diet soda? Every time I have one I feel like I crave sugar afterwards. Does anyone else feel the same way? I need to kick the habit of drinking it! Any suggestions?
Have you tried kombucha? It's lo cal and fizzy, it's actually good for you, probiotics, healthy acids etc.
I am not habitual with diet soda, but for a few times in college. I remembered thinking I associated it with weight gain. I'm not sure how, but I think that's legitimate. Well anyway, I question that they are very good for you!
How can you gain weight from diet soda when it has no calories?
I have read that it can raise your blood sugar. For me, weight loss is not just about losing weight, but about results.
I have read that a jolly fat guy in a red suit comes down chimneys to give kids gifts once a year..... Must be true then!
In other words, don't believe everything you read. How does something with no calories hinder weight loss? (Hint-it doesn't).
Also-if is raised blood sugar, why would the diabetes association reccomend it?
Wow amazing sarcasm. Not sure it's necessary?
Scientists used to believe the world was flat. They were wrong, and continue to be at times. So you have to think for yourself, too.
I have read it from other sources but here's one....in case you are interested.
http://www.webmd.com/diet/20140917/artificial-sweeteners-blood-sugar
Or here
http://www.cell.com/trends/endocrinology-metabolism/abstract/S1043-2760(13)00087-8
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Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »So I have read how horrible regular soda is but how about diet soda? Every time I have one I feel like I crave sugar afterwards. Does anyone else feel the same way? I need to kick the habit of drinking it! Any suggestions?
Have you tried kombucha? It's lo cal and fizzy, it's actually good for you, probiotics, healthy acids etc.
I am not habitual with diet soda, but for a few times in college. I remembered thinking I associated it with weight gain. I'm not sure how, but I think that's legitimate. Well anyway, I question that they are very good for you!
How can you gain weight from diet soda when it has no calories?
I have read that it can raise your blood sugar. For me, weight loss is not just about losing weight, but about results.
I have read that a jolly fat guy in a red suit comes down chimneys to give kids gifts once a year..... Must be true then!
In other words, don't believe everything you read. How does something with no calories hinder weight loss? (Hint-it doesn't).
Also-if is raised blood sugar, why would the diabetes association reccomend it?
Wow amazing sarcasm. Not sure it's necessary?
Scientists used to believe the world was flat. They were wrong, and continue to be at times. So you have to think for yourself, too.
I have read it from other sources but here's one....in case you are interested.
http://www.webmd.com/diet/20140917/artificial-sweeteners-blood-sugar
Or here
http://www.cell.com/trends/endocrinology-metabolism/abstract/S1043-2760(13)00087-8
Even if artificial sweetners do raise blood sugar, why would it matter? The average persons body can regulate it very well.
And if it helps you maintain a calorie deficit, lose weight and get fit, how can we not consider that a victory? Results arent driven by a single driver but rather a cumulation of many.0 -
Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »So I have read how horrible regular soda is but how about diet soda? Every time I have one I feel like I crave sugar afterwards. Does anyone else feel the same way? I need to kick the habit of drinking it! Any suggestions?
Have you tried kombucha? It's lo cal and fizzy, it's actually good for you, probiotics, healthy acids etc.
I am not habitual with diet soda, but for a few times in college. I remembered thinking I associated it with weight gain. I'm not sure how, but I think that's legitimate. Well anyway, I question that they are very good for you!
How can you gain weight from diet soda when it has no calories?
I have read that it can raise your blood sugar. For me, weight loss is not just about losing weight, but about results.
I have read that a jolly fat guy in a red suit comes down chimneys to give kids gifts once a year..... Must be true then!
In other words, don't believe everything you read. How does something with no calories hinder weight loss? (Hint-it doesn't).
Also-if is raised blood sugar, why would the diabetes association reccomend it?
Wow amazing sarcasm. Not sure it's necessary?
Scientists used to believe the world was flat. They were wrong, and continue to be at times. So you have to think for yourself, too.
I have read it from other sources but here's one....in case you are interested.
http://www.webmd.com/diet/20140917/artificial-sweeteners-blood-sugar
Or here
http://www.cell.com/trends/endocrinology-metabolism/abstract/S1043-2760(13)00087-8
Even if artificial sweetners do raise blood sugar, why would it matter? The average persons body can regulate it very well.
And if it helps you maintain a calorie deficit, lose weight and get fit, how can we not consider that a victory? Results arent driven by a single driver but rather a cumulation of many.
Yes, you can drink it if you want to. I skip them except for rarely.0 -
Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »So I have read how horrible regular soda is but how about diet soda? Every time I have one I feel like I crave sugar afterwards. Does anyone else feel the same way? I need to kick the habit of drinking it! Any suggestions?
Have you tried kombucha? It's lo cal and fizzy, it's actually good for you, probiotics, healthy acids etc.
I am not habitual with diet soda, but for a few times in college. I remembered thinking I associated it with weight gain. I'm not sure how, but I think that's legitimate. Well anyway, I question that they are very good for you!
How can you gain weight from diet soda when it has no calories?
I have read that it can raise your blood sugar. For me, weight loss is not just about losing weight, but about results.
I have read that a jolly fat guy in a red suit comes down chimneys to give kids gifts once a year..... Must be true then!
In other words, don't believe everything you read. How does something with no calories hinder weight loss? (Hint-it doesn't).
Also-if is raised blood sugar, why would the diabetes association reccomend it?
Wow amazing sarcasm. Not sure it's necessary?
Scientists used to believe the world was flat. for yourself, too.
No they didn't. Scientists have known that the world was round since Ancient Greece. Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the earth around 240 BC.
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Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »So I have read how horrible regular soda is but how about diet soda? Every time I have one I feel like I crave sugar afterwards. Does anyone else feel the same way? I need to kick the habit of drinking it! Any suggestions?
Have you tried kombucha? It's lo cal and fizzy, it's actually good for you, probiotics, healthy acids etc.
I am not habitual with diet soda, but for a few times in college. I remembered thinking I associated it with weight gain. I'm not sure how, but I think that's legitimate. Well anyway, I question that they are very good for you!
How can you gain weight from diet soda when it has no calories?
I have read that it can raise your blood sugar. For me, weight loss is not just about losing weight, but about results.
I have read that a jolly fat guy in a red suit comes down chimneys to give kids gifts once a year..... Must be true then!
In other words, don't believe everything you read. How does something with no calories hinder weight loss? (Hint-it doesn't).
Also-if is raised blood sugar, why would the diabetes association reccomend it?
Wow amazing sarcasm. Not sure it's necessary?
Scientists used to believe the world was flat. They were wrong, and continue to be at times. So you have to think for yourself, too.
I have read it from other sources but here's one....in case you are interested.
http://www.webmd.com/diet/20140917/artificial-sweeteners-blood-sugar
Or here
http://www.cell.com/trends/endocrinology-metabolism/abstract/S1043-2760(13)00087-8
Wondering why no-one has commented on the links @Lovee_Dove7 provided?0 -
Christine_72 wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »So I have read how horrible regular soda is but how about diet soda? Every time I have one I feel like I crave sugar afterwards. Does anyone else feel the same way? I need to kick the habit of drinking it! Any suggestions?
Have you tried kombucha? It's lo cal and fizzy, it's actually good for you, probiotics, healthy acids etc.
I am not habitual with diet soda, but for a few times in college. I remembered thinking I associated it with weight gain. I'm not sure how, but I think that's legitimate. Well anyway, I question that they are very good for you!
How can you gain weight from diet soda when it has no calories?
I have read that it can raise your blood sugar. For me, weight loss is not just about losing weight, but about results.
I have read that a jolly fat guy in a red suit comes down chimneys to give kids gifts once a year..... Must be true then!
In other words, don't believe everything you read. How does something with no calories hinder weight loss? (Hint-it doesn't).
Also-if is raised blood sugar, why would the diabetes association reccomend it?
Wow amazing sarcasm. Not sure it's necessary?
Scientists used to believe the world was flat. They were wrong, and continue to be at times. So you have to think for yourself, too.
I have read it from other sources but here's one....in case you are interested.
http://www.webmd.com/diet/20140917/artificial-sweeteners-blood-sugar
Or here
http://www.cell.com/trends/endocrinology-metabolism/abstract/S1043-2760(13)00087-8
Wondering why no-one has commented on the links @Lovee_Dove7 provided?
Probably because WebMD is not a reliable source, and the second link doesn't say anything about artificial sweeteners raising blood sugar (at least not in the abstract - the full text is behind a paywall). Not to mention the fact that it is an opinion piece, not peer-reviewed research.
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I too hate clickbait.
Of course the body can tell the difference between sugar and a non-nutritive sweetener. As the diabetics have correctly pointed out if this were not so there'd be a whole bunch of dead diabetics laying around.
Fear of diet sodas? A first world neurosis. Find something a little more weighty to worry about.0
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