People That Think Low-Carb is Good For You are Wrong

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  • Posts: 1,650 Member
    opycha wrote: »

    You can lose weight on any diet as long as you have a calorie deficit.

    Yes, you can. But you also implied that I would not gain weight eating over my TDEE as long as it was from vegetables.
  • Posts: 28,055 Member
    opycha wrote: »
    Everyone that thinks a low-carb is good for you and will work in the long-term is wrong. You're pushing your bodies into an ill state called Ketosis. Your body runs off of carbs, I eat 600g of carbs a day with under 40g of protein and 20g of fats. This uninformative and lieing industry is telling us that meat, dairy, and eggs are good for us? That stuff is loaded with cholesterol and will end up hurting you in the long run. Eat a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet and live life to the fullest.

    I admire ethical vegans and have a lot of respect for them. However, the ones I admire the most aren't all in-your-face about it. You'll have more success getting your point across with a different approach.
  • Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited January 2016
    AnvilHead wrote: »

    As the OP is proving - more and more with each post.

    He just wants attention - like any other troll, ignore him and he'll go away.

    Aww can't I play with him some more? @anvilhead

    I promise I won't break him ;)
  • Posts: 18,343 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »

    Aww can't I play with him some more? @anvilhead

    I promise I won't break him ;)

    As you wish, playful wabbit! :D
  • Posts: 579 Member
    Oh look, another special snowflake...

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  • Posts: 1,650 Member
    opycha wrote: »

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7598063

    That doesn't say what you think it says.
  • Posts: 1,776 Member
    edited January 2016
    opycha wrote: »

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7598063

    FTA

    Carbohydrate overfeeding produced progressive increases in carbohydrate oxidation and total energy expenditure resulting in 75-85% of excess energy being stored.

  • Posts: 827 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »

    Age is generally relevant to life experience yaknow

    But unfortunately, you usually have to be a certain age to know that....
  • Posts: 8,578 Member
    opycha wrote: »

    A personal choice isn't a personal choice when it comes at the expense of someone else.

    Unless you're talkin' cannibalism, I have no idea what you're on about.
  • Posts: 16,414 Member
    opycha wrote: »
    Everyone that thinks a low-carb is good for you and will work in the long-term is wrong. You're pushing your bodies into an ill state called Ketosis. Your body runs off of carbs, I eat 600g of carbs a day with under 40g of protein and 20g of fats. This uninformative and lieing industry is telling us that meat, dairy, and eggs are good for us? That stuff is loaded with cholesterol and will end up hurting you in the long run. Eat a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet and live life to the fullest.

    I lived that diet for six years and now I have Hashimoto's. And high cholesterol.
  • Posts: 15,487 Member
    In it for entertainment!

    This is not going to end well... "face palm"
  • Posts: 28,055 Member

    Unless you're talkin' cannibalism, I have no idea what you're on about.

    I believe he is an ethical vegan and is opposed to exploiting animals.
  • Posts: 56 Member
    I wish they had a cheeseburger emoji for a situation like this. I eat meat. Sorry, not sorry. That's really all he's concerned with. Sure, it's high in fat. It MAY lead to heart disease in the future. I also MAY get cancer, diabetes or have a heart attack. *kitten* happens.

    Your life choice doesn't have to be my life choice. Accept it and get over it.
  • Posts: 308 Member

    Ah, to be 19 and know everything again.

    I think you're confusing ketosis with ketoacidosis.

    But on with the show:
    Cite your sources. Because as written, it's just your unsubstantiated opinion.


    As noted by the Mayo Clinic, "low-carb diets may help prevent or improve serious health conditions, such as metabolic syndrome, diabetes, high blood pressure and cardiovascular disease."(http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/in-depth/low-carb-diet/art-20045831?pg=2)

    As documented by the Cleveland Clinic, "The ketogenic diet is a way of treating patients with poorly controlled epilepsy." (http://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases_conditions/hic_Epilepsy_Frequently_Asked_Questions/hic_Introduction_to_the_Ketogenic_Diet)

    And WebMD reports "Some research suggests that ketogenic diets can help lower your risk of heart disease. Other studies show specific very-low-carb diets help people with metabolic syndrome, insulin resistance, and type 2 diabetes. Researchers are also studying the effects of these diets on acne, cancer, polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS), and nervous system diseases like Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, and Lou Gehrig's disease."(http://www.webmd.com/diabetes/type-1-diabetes-guide/what-is-ketosis)

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    Funny because meat is more insulin resistant than carbs.. Also, http://www.andjrnl.org/article/S0002-8223(09)00452-0/abstract -- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22850317 -- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11108325 -- Cite some studies instead of just using WebMD lmao
  • Posts: 18,343 Member
    3bambi3 wrote: »

    That doesn't say what you think it says.

    LOL. This is what happens when somebody with an agenda tries to interpret a scientific study. In a caloric excess, 75-85% of excess calories were still stored as fat on the high carb diet. Translation: if you overeat, you get fat - it doesn't matter what the diet composition is.
  • Posts: 4,537 Member
    opycha wrote: »

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7598063

    That's not what that study suggests....
  • Posts: 1,510 Member
    Here is your problem SIR- Your body can use Carbs, protein, fat even alcohol (alcohol converts differently) for energy it converts them to Glycogen then glucose and you have about a 90 min window (already stored in your body) till you would actually need "Carbs"
    to supply an emergency quick conversion of energy for say a marathon..
  • Posts: 308 Member
    psulemon wrote: »

    And you can be healthy on any diet.



    If that wasn't true, than I would question how my family has lived into their upper 90's (and still kicking) on a meat and potatoes diet.

    People have lost weight on a twinkies diet. Calorie deficit is what they did though, it doesn't have to be healthy.
  • Posts: 5,864 Member
    opycha wrote: »

    My bad, eating a ton of veggies is so bad for you! Go back to eating your saturated fatty foods!

    Hardly a vegetable has past your lips according to your diary since you started it on the 6th so I don't get your point.
    You can't try to shame others for what they eat when you don't even eat what you are trying to push!
  • Posts: 308 Member

    That's not what that study suggests....

    Just showing that when overfed, people gain more weight with fats than carbs!
  • Posts: 2,038 Member

    Well, considering I lost 90lbs, then had a child, then lost 65lbs, all in a reasonable time frame and without consideration for avoiding carbs, I'd say you're right.
    ETA - right about me having more experience....

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  • Posts: 2,227 Member
    edited January 2016
    opycha wrote: »

    Funny because meat is more insulin resistant than carbs.. Also,
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    http://www.andjrnl.org/article/S0002-8223(09)00452-0/abstract --

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22850317 -- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11108325 -- Cite some studies instead of just using WebMD lmao

    Mayo Clinic, and Cleveland Clinic above. I read those, your first link doesn't work, and the others don't lend themselves to your mission. You're targeting esoteric groups at best, troll. :)
  • Posts: 38,448 MFP Moderator
    opycha wrote: »

    People have lost weight on a twinkies diet. Calorie deficit is what they did though, it doesn't have to be healthy.

    The explain how my family commonly lives into their 90's (late 90's that is) on a very heavy meat based diet?
  • Posts: 4,537 Member
    edited January 2016
    opycha wrote: »

    Just showing that when overfed, people gain more weight with fats than carbs!

    There are twice the amount of calories in a gram of fat. So yea, that makes sense.

    However, your claim was eating in a caloric surplus and not gaining weight. Your pubmed copy/paste doesn't support that.
  • Posts: 308 Member

    FTA

    Carbohydrate overfeeding produced progressive increases in carbohydrate oxidation and total energy expenditure resulting in 75-85% of excess energy being stored.

    "Alternatively, fat overfeeding had minimal effects on fat oxidation and total energy expenditure, leading to storage of 90-95% of excess energy." Carbs > Fats
  • Posts: 15,487 Member
    edited January 2016


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    Oh yeah and eggs are bad, bad, bad!!!!
  • Posts: 8,578 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »

    I believe he is an ethical vegan and is opposed to exploiting animals.

    Animals aren't people. ;)
  • Posts: 2,860 Member
    I eat low carb.high protein 50 lbs gone... And healthy as can be. And healthier then when I ate a high carb diet. I am also fuller longer and more satisfied then I was before and I have more energy which is saying something. Since I don't even.want to get out of bed.

    I'm glad this works for you... But we ate.Not cookie cut images of one another
  • Posts: 8,911 Member
    Quoth the raven: "Thatsatroll."
  • Posts: 1,776 Member
    edited January 2016
    opycha wrote: »
    "Alternatively, fat overfeeding had minimal effects on fat oxidation and total energy expenditure, leading to storage of 90-95% of excess energy." Carbs > Fats

    I like how you move the goalposts.

    Perhaps you should reread the post you were responding to when you posted the link
    Do you have a peer reviewed study that states you can eat in a caloric surplus and not gain weight?
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