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Apple Cider Vinegar
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DancingDarl wrote: »This is actually really good for me. I agree with your sister and it helping alkalinity(not sure if that is even a word) of the water. It also kills invasive parasites which let's face it are a huge problem in relation to weight loss and these are the exact measurement U read to drink in water every day to deter parasites like worms surviving in body(they can live in brain too) worms and all kinds parasites survive on sugary acidic conditions. Look into it. Thanks for reminding me I am picking some up today-I use it on my hair too
This section of the forum is where we debate the science of nutrition, not spread woo about parasites, alkalinity and such. If you have some scientific links pointing to invasive parasites and how they affect weight loss (lol), I'm sure everybody would be all ears.0 -
DancingDarl wrote: »This is actually really good for me. I agree with your sister and it helping alkalinity(not sure if that is even a word) of the water. It also kills invasive parasites which let's face it are a huge problem in relation to weight loss and these are the exact measurement U read to drink in water every day to deter parasites like worms surviving in body(they can live in brain too) worms and all kinds parasites survive on sugary acidic conditions. Look into it. Thanks for reminding me I am picking some up today-I use it on my hair too
Nothing of what you said is true. Nothing.0 -
DancingDarl wrote: »This is actually really good for me. I agree with your sister and it helping alkalinity(not sure if that is even a word) of the water. It also kills invasive parasites which let's face it are a huge problem in relation to weight loss and these are the exact measurement U read to drink in water every day to deter parasites like worms surviving in body(they can live in brain too) worms and all kinds parasites survive on sugary acidic conditions. Look into it. Thanks for reminding me I am picking some up today-I use it on my hair too
I call Poe.0 -
FunkyTobias wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »This is actually really good for me. I agree with your sister and it helping alkalinity(not sure if that is even a word) of the water. It also kills invasive parasites which let's face it are a huge problem in relation to weight loss and these are the exact measurement U read to drink in water every day to deter parasites like worms surviving in body(they can live in brain too) worms and all kinds parasites survive on sugary acidic conditions. Look into it. Thanks for reminding me I am picking some up today-I use it on my hair too
I call Poe.
What is this Poe you speak of? Acronym or author?0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »This is actually really good for me. I agree with your sister and it helping alkalinity(not sure if that is even a word) of the water. It also kills invasive parasites which let's face it are a huge problem in relation to weight loss and these are the exact measurement U read to drink in water every day to deter parasites like worms surviving in body(they can live in brain too) worms and all kinds parasites survive on sugary acidic conditions. Look into it. Thanks for reminding me I am picking some up today-I use it on my hair too
I call Poe.
What is this Poe you speak of? Acronym or author?
Poe's law. Google can help. I'm too lazy to post a link this morning.0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »This is actually really good for me. I agree with your sister and it helping alkalinity(not sure if that is even a word) of the water. It also kills invasive parasites which let's face it are a huge problem in relation to weight loss and these are the exact measurement U read to drink in water every day to deter parasites like worms surviving in body(they can live in brain too) worms and all kinds parasites survive on sugary acidic conditions. Look into it. Thanks for reminding me I am picking some up today-I use it on my hair too
I call Poe.
What is this Poe you speak of? Acronym or author?
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe's_Law0 -
FunkyTobias wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »This is actually really good for me. I agree with your sister and it helping alkalinity(not sure if that is even a word) of the water. It also kills invasive parasites which let's face it are a huge problem in relation to weight loss and these are the exact measurement U read to drink in water every day to deter parasites like worms surviving in body(they can live in brain too) worms and all kinds parasites survive on sugary acidic conditions. Look into it. Thanks for reminding me I am picking some up today-I use it on my hair too
I call Poe.
What is this Poe you speak of? Acronym or author?
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe's_Law
Thank you.0 -
FunkyTobias wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »This is actually really good for me. I agree with your sister and it helping alkalinity(not sure if that is even a word) of the water. It also kills invasive parasites which let's face it are a huge problem in relation to weight loss and these are the exact measurement U read to drink in water every day to deter parasites like worms surviving in body(they can live in brain too) worms and all kinds parasites survive on sugary acidic conditions. Look into it. Thanks for reminding me I am picking some up today-I use it on my hair too
I call Poe.
Not buying it. I believe she's really, actually serious. Seriously wrong, but serious nonetheless.0 -
Not sure about all the other stuff, but ACV works well on itches, especially poison ivy. (yeah, it stings at first). I used it on some poison ivy I had, and it dried it up and stopped the itching. A lot cheaper than all the OTC itch treatments!0
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zumbalinda22 wrote: »Not sure about all the other stuff, but ACV works well on itches, especially poison ivy. (yeah, it stings at first). I used it on some poison ivy I had, and it dried it up and stopped the itching. A lot cheaper than all the OTC itch treatments!
Regular white vinegar would do the same thing, at a fraction of the cost.0 -
DancingDarl wrote: »This is actually really good for me. I agree with your sister and it helping alkalinity(not sure if that is even a word) of the water. It also kills invasive parasites which let's face it are a huge problem in relation to weight loss and these are the exact measurement U read to drink in water every day to deter parasites like worms surviving in body(they can live in brain too) worms and all kinds parasites survive on sugary acidic conditions. Look into it. Thanks for reminding me I am picking some up today-I use it on my hair too
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Cider vinegar is high in salicylate acid as are garlic, olive oil and many herbs. Many plants use salicylate to protect themselves from moulds and mildews. Consuming a diet rich in fruits and veg with high salicylate values help us maintain good gut flora with many benefits to our bodies by making use of plant biology.0
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DancingDarl wrote: »This is actually really good for me. I agree with your sister and it helping alkalinity(not sure if that is even a word) of the water. It also kills invasive parasites which let's face it are a huge problem in relation to weight loss and these are the exact measurement U read to drink in water every day to deter parasites like worms surviving in body(they can live in brain too) worms and all kinds parasites survive on sugary acidic conditions. Look into it. Thanks for reminding me I am picking some up today-I use it on my hair too
Which invasive parasites?0 -
jmbmilholland wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »I'm unsurprised, @jmbmilholland, that you were unable to find anything. Candida overgrowth is a new popular blame for every problem ever.
See: http://mindbodyandsoleonline.com/health-nutrition/taming-the-yeastie-beasties/
Since apple cider vinegar is the new cure for every problem ever, it makes sense that they'd get lumped together, even if neither has any backing.
There is definitely a lot of crazy talk with ACV, and in many cases, such as the poster talking about acidifying the body, it is utter BS.
Candida does, in fact, cause the two issues I am discussing. What is odd is that there seems to be a gap in the research between the effects of acetic acid on oral candidiasis (which supports its efficacy) and its effects on candida albicans vaginitis. It seems like it would be low hanging fruit in a publish-or-perish culture. It is scientifically plausible (and eminently testable) that if ACV kills candida in your mouth (while not ruining your dentures) it would kill candida in other delicate areas as well. Even an undergrad could run that study and have a peer-reviewed paper in hand for grad school admissions. I suspect it might help relieve it but not completely knock out the colonies like the heavier fungicides do.
I don't know if this was a pun, but it should have been if it wasn't.
VERY naughty. (But funny.) (And no, if I had caught it, I would have edited it, as I blush just typing "lady parts".)
Hon, I see you're new on here, but you rock! Thanks for coming on board.
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Regular white vinegar is made from grapes prone to moulds and mildews which are the wrong kind of bacteria. It would not serve the same purpose. Economy is not to be frowned at but it would not work on this occasion. If you look at the bottle of vinegar it should say what its origins are.
Not everyone will expect to have any form of parasite. Mostly it comes down to kitchen hygiene, keeping surfaces clean and rinsing fruit, veg particularly salads which are not cooked. Some parasites are found in undercooked meat.0 -
Regular white vinegar is made from grapes prone to moulds and mildews which are the wrong kind of bacteria. It would not serve the same purpose. Economy is not to be frowned at but it would not work.
Citation needed
Any scientifically supported benefit of vinegar is due to acetic acid, which is common to all vinegar.
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I use it on my salads everyday, with salt pepper and onion powder I really like it.
But I can drink it alone.0 -
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Regular white vinegar is made from grapes prone to moulds and mildews which are the wrong kind of bacteria. It would not serve the same purpose. Economy is not to be frowned at but it would not work on this occasion. If you look at the bottle of vinegar it should say what its origins are.
Not everyone will expect to have any form of parasite. Mostly it comes down to kitchen hygiene, keeping surfaces clean and rinsing fruit, veg particularly salads which are not cooked. Some parasites are found in undercooked meat.
Mild and mildew survives in white vinegar? Rinsing fruit and veg removes parasites? There are common parasites that live for an extended time in humans? These can be removed with the right kind of vinegar consumption?
I'd love to learn more. Do you have any cites where I could read the science behind these claims?0 -
Mould and mildew aren't bacteria.
And the difference between grapes and vinegar is as big as the difference between grape juice and wine and vinegar.
The reason wine doesn't have higher amounts of alcohol than it has is because the yeast (which is a fungus like mould and mildew) dies from the alcohol so it can't make more alcohol. Neither wine made from grapes that are "prone to moulds and mildews" nor vinegar made out of that wine is going to be prone to moulds and mildews.0 -
Sometimes I feel that people on here are so set in their mind of what science says is right that they close their mind to other possibilities. Look once scientists swore the earth was flat and anyone who said otherwise was mocked and ridiculed, then they discovered they were wrong. Once scientists said the atom was the smallest thing in the world and look how that turned out.
Maybe some of this stuff is "woo" as seems to be the popular term on here, but what if it there is more to some of these things. Also don't forget there's a lot of scientific evidence that is not released because let's face it, big pharma want customers not cures, that's how they make their money
And for the people who laugh at the suggestion of alternative remedies, they were around way before pharmaceuticals and have successfully treated many ailments, so you might say western medication is the alternative. St. John's wort has treated depression for many years, aloe Vera is one of the most effective treatments for abrasions, stings and burns, lavender can ease headaches and muscular aches plus help sleep etc.
open your minds a little, calling anything and everything woo isn't cool, and you're missing out on a lot of really valid treatment options1 -
Oh yeah and I forgot acv is great for my skin and hair, wouldn't be without it0
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Sometimes I feel that people on here are so set in their mind of what science says is right that they close their mind to other possibilities. Look once scientists swore the earth was flat and anyone who said otherwise was mocked and ridiculed, then they discovered they were wrong. Once scientists said the atom was the smallest thing in the world and look how that turned out.
Maybe some of this stuff is "woo" as seems to be the popular term on here, but what if it there is more to some of these things. Also don't forget there's a lot of scientific evidence that is not released because let's face it, big pharma want customers not cures, that's how they make their money
And for the people who laugh at the suggestion of alternative remedies, they were around way before pharmaceuticals and have successfully treated many ailments, so you might say western medication is the alternative. St. John's wort has treated depression for many years, aloe Vera is one of the most effective treatments for abrasions, stings and burns, lavender can ease headaches and muscular aches plus help sleep etc.
open your minds a little, calling anything and everything woo isn't cool, and you're missing out on a lot of really valid treatment options
In another thread you make fun of someone saying there's no real different size body frames yet here you write something like this?1 -
? Natural health remedies, people with different sized bones. What's the correlation? I wasn't making fun of her, just asking her to stop telling people that they are wrong about their body frame and that our bones are all the same measurements0
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Science says if a natural remedy works it gets used in actual medicine. If it isn't that's a pretty sure sign that any potential benefit to it is too small to matter. Science says there is no property to vinegar that makes you lose weight. Science says anything ACV might be able to do, any other vinegar would do the same, as would most other acidic things.
Yet you say "well, scientists were wrong before, maybe it isn't like that actually".
Yet you tell someone to stop saying body frames are mostly the same because of science. What would you do if she told you "well scientists were wrong before."?0 -
FunkyTobias wrote: »zumbalinda22 wrote: »Not sure about all the other stuff, but ACV works well on itches, especially poison ivy. (yeah, it stings at first). I used it on some poison ivy I had, and it dried it up and stopped the itching. A lot cheaper than all the OTC itch treatments!
Regular white vinegar would do the same thing, at a fraction of the cost.
Where do you buy your ACV? Mine is just a tiny bit more expensive than distilled vinegar. I can buy a gallon of distilled for under $2 and I can get a gallon of ACV for around $3. I buy smaller bottles because I use ACV for cooking only. I use distilled vinegar to detox (excuse me, descale) my Keurig. Any other household uses I prefer a weak solution of citric acid in water, which is even cheaper than distilled vinegar and I don'r have to smell it for a week afterwards.0 -
Sometimes I feel that people on here are so set in their mind of what science says is right that they close their mind to other possibilities. Look once scientists swore the earth was flat and anyone who said otherwise was mocked and ridiculed, then they discovered they were wrong. Once scientists said the atom was the smallest thing in the world and look how that turned out.
Maybe some of this stuff is "woo" as seems to be the popular term on here, but what if it there is more to some of these things. Also don't forget there's a lot of scientific evidence that is not released because let's face it, big pharma want customers not cures, that's how they make their money
And for the people who laugh at the suggestion of alternative remedies, they were around way before pharmaceuticals and have successfully treated many ailments, so you might say western medication is the alternative. St. John's wort has treated depression for many years, aloe Vera is one of the most effective treatments for abrasions, stings and burns, lavender can ease headaches and muscular aches plus help sleep etc.
open your minds a little, calling anything and everything woo isn't cool, and you're missing out on a lot of really valid treatment options
I don't think anyone is denying that there are some body related uses for ACV. It is a mild antibacterial, the acidity can help remove skin tags, it can sooth sunburn, it helps counteract the high pH in soaps and shampoos when used as a rinse. There is some emerging evidence that it has a slight effect on blood sugar when taken with food, but that is still correlation, not a proven cause.
Around here, there is so much woo regarding ACV. Yes, I am using the term. ACV does not "adjust the pH" of the blood. It does not detox. It does not do so many of the "magical" things people claim. Unfortunately, the practical uses of it have been lumped in with the magical thinking and have been lost in the shuffle.0 -
Sometimes I feel that people on here are so set in their mind of what science says is right that they close their mind to other possibilities. Look once scientists swore the earth was flat and anyone who said otherwise was mocked and ridiculed, then they discovered they were wrong. Once scientists said the atom was the smallest thing in the world and look how that turned out.
Maybe some of this stuff is "woo" as seems to be the popular term on here, but what if it there is more to some of these things. Also don't forget there's a lot of scientific evidence that is not released because let's face it, big pharma want customers not cures, that's how they make their money
And for the people who laugh at the suggestion of alternative remedies, they were around way before pharmaceuticals and have successfully treated many ailments, so you might say western medication is the alternative. St. John's wort has treated depression for many years, aloe Vera is one of the most effective treatments for abrasions, stings and burns, lavender can ease headaches and muscular aches plus help sleep etc.
open your minds a little, calling anything and everything woo isn't cool, and you're missing out on a lot of really valid treatment options
Prove they are valid, and we'll consider them. Peer-reviewed journal articles, please, no Dr. Oz/Mercola. There are several of us that are scientists, or statisticians, or both - we can handle it.
Signed, a medium-framed Bayesian.0 -
FunkyTobias wrote: »zumbalinda22 wrote: »Not sure about all the other stuff, but ACV works well on itches, especially poison ivy. (yeah, it stings at first). I used it on some poison ivy I had, and it dried it up and stopped the itching. A lot cheaper than all the OTC itch treatments!
Regular white vinegar would do the same thing, at a fraction of the cost.
Where do you buy your ACV? Mine is just a tiny bit more expensive than distilled vinegar. I can buy a gallon of distilled for under $2 and I can get a gallon of ACV for around $3. I buy smaller bottles because I use ACV for cooking only. I use distilled vinegar to detox (excuse me, descale) my Keurig. Any other household uses I prefer a weak solution of citric acid in water, which is even cheaper than distilled vinegar and I don'r have to smell it for a week afterwards.
Most of the woo merchants insist that magic comes only from the raw, unfiltered ACV "with the mother"
This is significantly more expensive.0 -
FunkyTobias wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »zumbalinda22 wrote: »Not sure about all the other stuff, but ACV works well on itches, especially poison ivy. (yeah, it stings at first). I used it on some poison ivy I had, and it dried it up and stopped the itching. A lot cheaper than all the OTC itch treatments!
Regular white vinegar would do the same thing, at a fraction of the cost.
Where do you buy your ACV? Mine is just a tiny bit more expensive than distilled vinegar. I can buy a gallon of distilled for under $2 and I can get a gallon of ACV for around $3. I buy smaller bottles because I use ACV for cooking only. I use distilled vinegar to detox (excuse me, descale) my Keurig. Any other household uses I prefer a weak solution of citric acid in water, which is even cheaper than distilled vinegar and I don'r have to smell it for a week afterwards.
Most of the woo merchants insist that magic comes only from the raw, unfiltered ACV "with the mother"
This is significantly more expensive.
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