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Apple Cider Vinegar
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lemurcat12 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »How did this thread take such an ugly turn from marinade and salad dressing recipes to blood letting parasites and maggots?
And I thought we weren't supposed to talk about politics.
I wondered if nutrition debate had that rule relaxed, at least for health and nutrition? I wouldn't mind debating food deserts, agricultural incentives, protein RDA, advertising to children, or even MyPlate.
I think it would be okay if about policy and not candidates/parties, anyway.
But what if I have nutritional questions about Trump's wig, or how many calories I'd burn climbing the wall he's going to build?
I'd allow it, but I am not a mod. ;-)
I think we can all agree that Trump's wig would not be clean eating, however.
Depending on what styling products in it, I'd say hair is paleo.
But what about "hair"? Or perhaps "American hair product."0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »How did this thread take such an ugly turn from marinade and salad dressing recipes to blood letting parasites and maggots?
And I thought we weren't supposed to talk about politics.
I wondered if nutrition debate had that rule relaxed, at least for health and nutrition? I wouldn't mind debating food deserts, agricultural incentives, protein RDA, advertising to children, or even MyPlate.
I think it would be okay if about policy and not candidates/parties, anyway.
But what if I have nutritional questions about Trump's wig, or how many calories I'd burn climbing the wall he's going to build?
I'd allow it, but I am not a mod. ;-)
I think we can all agree that Trump's wig would not be clean eating, however.
Depending on what styling products in it, I'd say hair is paleo.
But what about "hair"? Or perhaps "American hair product."
Are you implying that Trump's hair isn't real??!?
BLASPHEMER!0 -
jofjltncb6 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »How did this thread take such an ugly turn from marinade and salad dressing recipes to blood letting parasites and maggots?
And I thought we weren't supposed to talk about politics.
I wondered if nutrition debate had that rule relaxed, at least for health and nutrition? I wouldn't mind debating food deserts, agricultural incentives, protein RDA, advertising to children, or even MyPlate.
I think it would be okay if about policy and not candidates/parties, anyway.
But what if I have nutritional questions about Trump's wig, or how many calories I'd burn climbing the wall he's going to build?
I'd allow it, but I am not a mod. ;-)
I think we can all agree that Trump's wig would not be clean eating, however.
Depending on what styling products in it, I'd say hair is paleo.
But what about "hair"? Or perhaps "American hair product."
Are you implying that Trump's hair isn't real??!?
BLASPHEMER!
I sense a bit of follically-challenged jealousy
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johnnygizmo wrote: »It will also work as a laxative, therefore clearing out your GI. So it would make it seem like you are losing weight when really you are just emptied out.
I personally love vinegar on all sorts of food for the flavor. I grew up putting salt and white vinegar on french fries down at the Old Orchard Beach pier in Maine.
Blasphemy. You must use malt vinegar. Especially if the fries are part of fish and chips. Then the vinegar goes on both
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lemurcat12 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »How did this thread take such an ugly turn from marinade and salad dressing recipes to blood letting parasites and maggots?
And I thought we weren't supposed to talk about politics.
I wondered if nutrition debate had that rule relaxed, at least for health and nutrition? I wouldn't mind debating food deserts, agricultural incentives, protein RDA, advertising to children, or even MyPlate.
I think it would be okay if about policy and not candidates/parties, anyway.
But what if I have nutritional questions about Trump's wig, or how many calories I'd burn climbing the wall he's going to build?
I'd allow it, but I am not a mod. ;-)
I think we can all agree that Trump's wig would not be clean eating, however.
Depending on what styling products in it, I'd say hair is paleo.
But what about "hair"? Or perhaps "American hair product."
I will never be able to see Trump without imagining his head covered with Kraft singles. Or did you mean Velveeta?
Come to think of it, either would be an improvement.0 -
http://trumpdonald.org/jofjltncb6 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »How did this thread take such an ugly turn from marinade and salad dressing recipes to blood letting parasites and maggots?
And I thought we weren't supposed to talk about politics.
I wondered if nutrition debate had that rule relaxed, at least for health and nutrition? I wouldn't mind debating food deserts, agricultural incentives, protein RDA, advertising to children, or even MyPlate.
I think it would be okay if about policy and not candidates/parties, anyway.
But what if I have nutritional questions about Trump's wig, or how many calories I'd burn climbing the wall he's going to build?
I'd allow it, but I am not a mod. ;-)
I think we can all agree that Trump's wig would not be clean eating, however.
Depending on what styling products in it, I'd say hair is paleo.
But what about "hair"? Or perhaps "American hair product."
Are you implying that Trump's hair isn't real??!?
BLASPHEMER!0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »How did this thread take such an ugly turn from marinade and salad dressing recipes to blood letting parasites and maggots?
And I thought we weren't supposed to talk about politics.
I wondered if nutrition debate had that rule relaxed, at least for health and nutrition? I wouldn't mind debating food deserts, agricultural incentives, protein RDA, advertising to children, or even MyPlate.
I think it would be okay if about policy and not candidates/parties, anyway.
But what if I have nutritional questions about Trump's wig, or how many calories I'd burn climbing the wall he's going to build?
I'd allow it, but I am not a mod. ;-)
I think we can all agree that Trump's wig would not be clean eating, however.
Depending on what styling products in it, I'd say hair is paleo.
But what about "hair"? Or perhaps "American hair product."
I will never be able to see Trump without imagining his head covered with Kraft singles. Or did you mean Velveeta?
Come to think of it, either would be an improvement.
I was thinking Kraft singles, but there's no question that Velveeta would look more natural than whatever it is he has going on now.0 -
FunkyTobias wrote: »
http://trumpdonald.org/jofjltncb6 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »How did this thread take such an ugly turn from marinade and salad dressing recipes to blood letting parasites and maggots?
And I thought we weren't supposed to talk about politics.
I wondered if nutrition debate had that rule relaxed, at least for health and nutrition? I wouldn't mind debating food deserts, agricultural incentives, protein RDA, advertising to children, or even MyPlate.
I think it would be okay if about policy and not candidates/parties, anyway.
But what if I have nutritional questions about Trump's wig, or how many calories I'd burn climbing the wall he's going to build?
I'd allow it, but I am not a mod. ;-)
I think we can all agree that Trump's wig would not be clean eating, however.
Depending on what styling products in it, I'd say hair is paleo.
But what about "hair"? Or perhaps "American hair product."
Are you implying that Trump's hair isn't real??!?
BLASPHEMER!
This may be the greatest thing the Internet has produced in...well, ever.0 -
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johnnygizmo wrote: »It will also work as a laxative, therefore clearing out your GI. So it would make it seem like you are losing weight when really you are just emptied out.
I personally love vinegar on all sorts of food for the flavor. I grew up putting salt and white vinegar on french fries down at the Old Orchard Beach pier in Maine.
PIER FRIES. BEST FRIES. And yes - I know exactly which ones you mean. Stop making me miss Maine.
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DancingDarl wrote: »It doesn't hurt to try it. Apple cider vinegar has been used for a long time. Each to their own though.
Actually, it does.
1. ACV isn't free. Wasting one's money in one area means less to spend on other things that might be more helpful: buying foods with higher satiety in fewer calories for example, or other purchases that help with exercise.
2. The mental cost - pinning one's hopes on false beliefs has a mental cost. Every time a person tries a diet gimmick and fails creates the mental belief that their body is uniquely incapable of losing weight.
3. Health - a person trying to lose weight instead of using a proven method could be losing weight with the proven method and be that much healthier by the end of the trial.
To each their own is a talisman clutched by those in a way it cannot justify - it isn't to your own if you're endorsing charlatanism, it isn't just each to your own when you're encouraging or willing to support someone in false beliefs that have real costs. Deception in such instances is a form of theft, and thus not a case of non-interference.0 -
DancingDarl wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »It doesn't hurt to try it. Apple cider vinegar has been used for a long time. Each to their own though.
Actually, it does.
1. ACV isn't free. Wasting one's money in one area means less to spend on other things that might be more helpful: buying foods with higher satiety in fewer calories for example, or other purchases that help with exercise.
2. The mental cost - pinning one's hopes on false beliefs has a mental cost. Every time a person tries a diet gimmick and fails creates the mental belief that their body is uniquely incapable of losing weight.
3. Health - a person trying to lose weight instead of using a proven method could be losing weight with the proven method and be that much healthier by the end of the trial.
To each their own is a talisman clutched by those in a way it cannot justify - it isn't to your own if you're endorsing charlatanism, it isn't just each to your own when you're encouraging or willing to support someone in false beliefs that have real costs. Deception in such instances is a form of theft, and thus not a case of non-interference.
Ok. Let's humour your misleading accusations.
For starters deception entails giving false information and when you say each to their own it is a way of respecting another persons decision lead their way.
I would rather remind you that I have made it clear that Apple cider vinegar is not a weight loss solution, simply that adding it into your diet can be beneficial at the very least it will do nothing, but it most definitely will not cause harm.
It isn't free is not a good enough argument to prevent people from trying it. It is actually relatively cheap, and can be used for many different purposes. So hypercritical lay if someone where to buy it and hate the taste. They could always try it as a hot tea with lemon, honey hot water when they have a cold,use it as a hair rinse, or even cleaning. People buy a lot of things, pay higher prices for things repeatedly that they needn't do so and don't seem to suffer from it.
I think your second point is ridiculous. As far as pinning your hopes on something goes, it has been repeatedly stated by many people in this thread(and out of) that ACV is something to provide mild benefit to a already existing moderated healthy diet and exercise regime.
Your third point same as the second. If someone were to give up what they were already doing based on a few mentions of ACV, then that is a separate individual issue but still I would respect their decision. But in no way have I ever encouraged the idea of exclusively expecting a magical cure. As people who use it know it's medicinal properties, cleaning, hair care etc.
If other people would like to try it how could that bother you so?
One study showed further stomach issues for patients with Type I diabetes. One of the earlier studies also found significant tooth erosion related to drinking apple cider vinegar.
For most medicinal purposes no more than 1-2 tablespoons per day is recommended. The side effects of large amounts include decreased potassium levels, which could be life threatening. Vinegar may also interact with diuretics, laxatives, and medicines for diabetes and heart disease
https://www.washington.edu/wholeu/2015/07/07/beyond-the-hype-apple-cider-vinegar-as-an-alternative-therapy/0 -
Negative campaigning? Did someone call them leightweight chockers or something?0
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Negative campaigning? Did someone call them leightweight chockers or something?
"I'm thinking about doing shots of acv for (insert magical woo here)"
"It doesn't work"
"WHY DO YOU HATE DIABETICS? !"0 -
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DancingDarl wrote: »You do realise the evidence you gave was negligible right? Or are you too busy being abusive to mothers in another thread :-p
Are you diabetic?0 -
htimpaired wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »You do realise the evidence you gave was negligible right? Or are you too busy being abusive to mothers in another thread :-p
Are you diabetic?
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