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Wendys fries are way better than mcdonalds.0
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willnorton wrote: »McDEATH.........THAT IS ALL IT IS.... THE CHEMICALS AND PRESERVATIVES WILL ALONE KILL YOU
Been watching too many faux documentaries I see.0 -
willnorton wrote: »McDEATH.........THAT IS ALL IT IS.... THE CHEMICALS AND PRESERVATIVES WILL ALONE KILL YOU
And there it is. Fearmongering and unsubstantiated claims in all caps. Bingo!0 -
Could always pay the $49 to remove ads ...
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McDEATH.........THAT IS ALL IT IS.... THE CHEMICALS AND PRESERVATIVES WILL ALONE KILL YOU
BUT WILL THEY KILL ME... ALONE?
Praising the McDouble: "The cheapest, most nutritious food in the whole of history"
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/life/food/article3829131.ece
...which is a great deal, as are the $1 sausage breakfast burritos.
McDonald's is awesome. FACT. Fight me!
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singingflutelady wrote: »willnorton wrote: »McDEATH.........THAT IS ALL IT IS.... THE CHEMICALS AND PRESERVATIVES WILL ALONE KILL YOU
Been watching too many faux documentaries I see.
i am talking from experience ... ME ..my personal experience..... i retired adn started eating at McDEATH and lost control... gained about 160 pounds... got lazy..... and did a lot of research on teh chemicals and additives they put into all teh foods.... do yourself a favor and go get the nutritional info0 -
How do you define real butter? I'm curious since I've worked there before and fixed those rounded eggs.GaleHawkins wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »
@GaleHawkins I'm just curious, what do you order from there ? ( besides black coffee ) I am genuinely just curious and am not making a joke about your way of eating. I just wanted to know ?
On the coffee side I get several of the $.59 senior cup of regular coffee and add 8 little half and half creamers to each cup so on average the cost is $.20 a cup.
Food wise I get the 'round' eggs that are cracked from the shell just before they cook them in real butter, sausage and real bacon strips. Each of these items are $.99 each but if bacon it is two pieces for $.99.
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I am finding it is getting easier to eat out without major carbs than ever. The 24/7 breakfast at McDonald's is a step forward for LCHF but I am the only one that I know eating when I eat that is NOT into Carb Loading.
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willnorton wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »willnorton wrote: »McDEATH.........THAT IS ALL IT IS.... THE CHEMICALS AND PRESERVATIVES WILL ALONE KILL YOU
Been watching too many faux documentaries I see.
i am talking from experience ... ME ..my personal experience..... i retired adn started eating at McDEATH and lost control...
You DIED from McDonald's?
Woah. That's pretty heavy, dude.
RIP.
Vaya con Dios.0 -
I'm not a little girl BTW. I'm 40 and I know and research nutrition a lot as I have a serious GI disease and I have to be very careful what I eat.willnorton wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »willnorton wrote: »McDEATH.........THAT IS ALL IT IS.... THE CHEMICALS AND PRESERVATIVES WILL ALONE KILL YOU
Been watching too many faux documentaries I see.
little girl..i am talking from experience ... ME ..my personal experience..... i retired adn started eating at McDEATH and lost control... gained about 160 pounds... got lazy..... and did a lot of research on teh chemicals and additives they put into all teh foods.... do yourself a favor and go get the nutritional info
I eat at McDonalds on occasion and didn't gain a single pound. I have checked the nutritional information. There isn't anything scary in it.
Can you list the names of the chemicals and additives you are referring to?0 -
willnorton wrote: »McDEATH.........THAT IS ALL IT IS.... THE CHEMICALS AND PRESERVATIVES WILL ALONE KILL YOU
And there it is. Fearmongering and unsubstantiated claims in all caps. Bingo!
i speak from personal experience ...you keep eating there..you deserve it-4 -
What chemicals and additives are you speaking of? List them. If you gained 160 pounds it means you were massively overeating.0
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willnorton wrote: »willnorton wrote: »McDEATH.........THAT IS ALL IT IS.... THE CHEMICALS AND PRESERVATIVES WILL ALONE KILL YOU
And there it is. Fearmongering and unsubstantiated claims in all caps. Bingo!
i speak from personal experience ...you keep eating there..you deserve it
I'll eat there when its an appropriate option for me and it fits my goals for the day. Doesn't hurt me one bit and yes, I deserve it.0 -
willnorton wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »willnorton wrote: »McDEATH.........THAT IS ALL IT IS.... THE CHEMICALS AND PRESERVATIVES WILL ALONE KILL YOU
Been watching too many faux documentaries I see.
little girl..i am talking from experience ... ME ..my personal experience..... i retired adn started eating at McDEATH and lost control... gained about 160 pounds... got lazy..... and did a lot of research on teh chemicals and additives they put into all teh foods.... do yourself a favor and go get the nutritional info
Ah yes, condescension and ignorance all rolled up into one pretty little package. There there . . .
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1. Duck feathers and human hair (L-cysteine)
You thought duck feathers sounded bad? How about human hair? These are the two most-common sources for l-cysteine, an amino acid used to condition dough for increased pliability, which facilitates better machine processing. CNN reported that most human-derived L-cysteine comes from Chinese women who help support their families by selling their locks to small chemical-processing plants.
Although originally the primary source for L-cysteine was human hair, many manufacturers seem to have moved away from hair-derived L-cysteine and on to the more-palatable duck feathers. According to Jeanne Yacoubou, MS, research editor for The Vegetarian Resource Group, 80 percent of L-cysteine is now derived from feathers. During her research, McDonald’s told Yacoubou that the L-cysteine used in its Baked Hot Apple Pie, as well as its Wheat Roll and Warm Cinnamon Roll, was of the duck-feather variety. Many other fast-food joints rely on L-cysteine in bakery products as well.
And not to be sensationalist here, the resultant additive is far-removed from its original source — but still. It may be disturbing to many, and importantly, may fly in the face of ethical or religious dietary restrictions.
2. Sand (silicon dioxide)
Avoiding sand in your sandwich at the beach is obvious, avoiding sand in your restaurant-purchased meal may not be so apparent.
Silicon dioxide, also known as silica (also known as sand!), is used to make glass, optical fibers, ceramics and cement. Oh, and chili. Used as an anti-caking agent, it is often added to processed beef and chicken to prevent clumping, and is listed in the ingredient panels for chili from both Wendy’s and Taco Bell. Most experts suggest that it isn’t harmful for consumption, but just know that the ingredient keeping that chili meat nice and non-caking is the also the primary component of diatomaceous earth, commonly used as a natural insecticide.
3. Wood (cellulose)
Processed wood pulp, known as cellulose, is used in everything from cheese to salad dressing, from muffins to strawberry syrup. Food processors use it to thicken and stabilize foods, replace fat and boost fiber content — as well as to minimize reliance on more costly ingredients like oil or flour. Powdered cellulose is produced by cooking virgin wood pulp in chemicals to separate the cellulose, and then purified. Modified versions require extra processing, such as exposure to acid in order to further break down the fiber.
Ironically, with the increase in nutritional awareness has come an increase in the use of cellulose — with the addition of wood pulp, products can boast of less fat and more fiber. Just don’t mind the wood.
McDonald's, Taco Bell, KFC, Sonic, Pizza Hut, Wendy’s, Arby’s, Jack in the Box, and many others include cellulose in their repertoire.
4. Silly Putty plastic (dimethylpolysiloxane)
Eight-syllable ingredients make sense for Silly Putty, but French fries? Sure enough, dimethylpolysiloxane, a form of silicone used in cosmetics and Silly Putty, is also found in many a fast-food fried thing. It is the secret ingredient that keeps fryer oil from foaming. McDonald’s Filet-O-Fish and French fries have it, as do Wendy’s Natural-Cut Fries With Sea Salt. In fact, most fast-food items that bathe in a deep-fat fryer are imbued with a hint of dimethylpolysiloxane. Should you be concerned? The World Health Organization found no adverse health effects associated with dimethylpolysiloxane, but come on — what’s wrong with using potatoes, oil, and salt for fries?
5. Petroleum-derived preservatives (TBHQ)
Tertiary butylhydroquinone (TBHQ) is made from compounds derived from petroleum and finds a home in cosmetic and skincare products, varnish, lacquers and resins — and processed food. McDonald’s, for example, uses it in 18 products ranging from its Fruit and Walnut Salad to Griddle Cakes to McNuggets.
TBHQ was finally approved after many years of pressure from food manufacturers, though with approval, the FDA mandated that the chemical must not exceed 0.02 percent of a food’s oil and fat content. Why would there be a limit? Because five grams would be lethal, while one gram can cause nausea, vomiting, delirium, a sense of suffocation and collapse. (Although you would have to eat more than 11 pounds of McNuggets to reach that level. And if you're willing to eat 11 pounds of McNuggets in one sitting, well...)
6. Soil fertilizer (ammonium sulfate)
Ammonium sulfate is sold by chemical companies to food manufacturers as “yeast food for bread,” and many fast-food companies list the ingredient in their bakery products.
But that’s just its night job; when ammonium sulfate is not moonlighting as a food additive, it performs its main task: as a fertilizer for alkaline soils. Ammonium sulfate also does duty as an agricultural spray adjuvant for water soluble insecticides, herbicides and fungicides.
7. Beetle juices (carminic acid, confectioner's glaze)
Food dyes approved by the FDA include colors synthesized from petroleum derivatives and coal tar, but with all of the negative attention paid to artificial food color, natural dyes are on the rise. Yet some food dyes based on natural ingredients come from things that you may not care to ingest. Meet carminic acid, a commonly used red food coloring that comes from the dried, crushed bodies of female scale insects called cochineal. Variously known as Cochineal, Cochineal Extract, Carmine, Crimson Lake, Natural Red 4, C.I. 75470, E120 — it is used in a wide variety of products ranging from some meat, sausages, processed poultry products, marinades, bakery products, toppings, cookies, desserts, icings, pie fillings, jams, preserves, gelatins, juices, drinks, dairy products, sauces and dessert products.
From the same family of the cochineal comes the Lac beetle, which is the source of shellac — as in wood-primer-and-varnish shellac. The female beetle secretes a resin that is scraped from trees in Southeast Asia and Mexico. The resin is collected and processed into a shiny coating to be donned by a variety of foods, including candy, vitamins, pills, tablets, capsules, chocolate and waxed fresh fruit. You won’t find beetle excretions on the ingredients list, however, look for its aliases: Confectioner's Glaze, Resinous Glaze, Shellac, Pharmaceutical Glaze, Pure Food Glaze, Natural Glaze or Lac-Resin.
8. Meat paste-goop (mechanically separated meat)
Mechanically separated meat (MSM) has been produced since the 1960s, but has been enjoying new fame lately courtesy of a photo making the rounds which shows an industrial machine extruding a plump ribbon of pink paste into a box. It is commonly referred to as “pink slime.” Looking more like frosting than pureed meat and bone bits, the FDA defines mechanically separated poultry (MSP) as “a paste-like and batter-like poultry product produced by forcing bones, with attached edible tissue, through a sieve or similar device under high pressure to separate bone from the edible tissue.” Mechanically separated pork is used too, although in 2004 to protect consumers against Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy, mechanically separated beef was considered inedible and prohibited for use as human food.
After the meat slurry has been produced, it is sometimes treated with ammonium hydroxide to remove excess bacteria. Ammonium hydroxide is also used as a household cleaner and in fertilizers. Since the resultant meat-bone-muscle-tendon-ammonium-hydroxide goop doesn’t taste much like meat, artificial flavors are added to finish the whole thing off.
Mechanically separated meat is to blame for a number of processed meat products; think hot dogs, salami, bologna, burgers and many a chicken nugget. Fast-food restaurants are known for employing pink slime, although recently McDonald’s made clear that it no longer relies upon it in its burgers.
Generally recognized as safe (GRAS)
These four little words seem to have become the FDA mantra when it comes to food additives; all of the above ingredients, and an expansive array of other chemical additives, have been generally recognized as safe in scientific studies. Taken out of context and looked at individually, maybe a little ammonium sulfate here and a petroleum product there aren’t going to cause quantitative damage to lab animals. But if you were to add up all of the chemical ingredients consumed during a life of a fast-food fueled Western diet, what would that look like? Would it look like an epidemic of obesity, diabetes or cancer?
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willnorton wrote: »there are a few additives sweet little girl
Please cite your cut and pastes. It's polite, and appropriate to cite folks who take the time to write things.
And it provides the reader with necessary context.
Please try to discuss things without hurling cheap insults. It doesn't help your argument.
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L cysteine is an amino acid found in meat, red peppers, garlic, onions, brocolli, Brussels sprouts, oats, lentils, granola, wheat germ. Yup a death chemical0
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ForecasterJason wrote: »
How do you define real butter? I'm curious since I've worked there before and fixed those rounded eggs.GaleHawkins wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »
@GaleHawkins I'm just curious, what do you order from there ? ( besides black coffee ) I am genuinely just curious and am not making a joke about your way of eating. I just wanted to know ?
On the coffee side I get several of the $.59 senior cup of regular coffee and add 8 little half and half creamers to each cup so on average the cost is $.20 a cup.
Food wise I get the 'round' eggs that are cracked from the shell just before they cook them in real butter, sausage and real bacon strips. Each of these items are $.99 each but if bacon it is two pieces for $.99.
@ForecasterJason I take it you did not cook breakfast at McDonald's in the USA today.
eater.com/2015/9/1/9239019/mcdonalds-uses-real-butter-axes-margarine-shocker
The reported changes even shocked me in the article. I knew about the fresh cracked eggs by eye witness but did not know about the chicken and milk losing some of the growth chemicals. Their breakfast traffic is HUGE locally and now most stores knows how to ring up the low carb breakfast items 24/7 I find. After 10:30 AM the breakfast items are no longer fast food items but the wait is not too long any longer I am finding traveling through several states late in the afternoon/evening.1 -
Silicon dioxide is found naturally in human tissue and in green leafy vegetables, bell peppers, beets, brown rice and oats and alfalfa. There is no none health risk with it.0
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singingflutelady wrote: »L cysteine is an amino acid found in meat, red peppers, garlic, onions, brocolli, Brussels sprouts, oats, lentils, granola, wheat germ. Yup a death chemical
Shhh...don't argue with the food police! You don't want to deal with a contempt-of-cop offense!0
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