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Does specific type of food help you lose weight
ginamcy
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I belive it does! Its not how many times you eat than what you eat a person that will eat once a day but fast food like french fies and hamburger and a person that will eat 3 times a day but will eat chicken breast without frying or broccoli tuna fish exc will most likely lose weight or be in better forming shape then the other person... or some people eat whatever they want without gaining any weight but having health problems
Agree or disagree???
Agree or disagree???
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I got to my goal weight by eating whatever I wanted as long as it fit my calories for the day/week.0
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French fries and a hamburger will have way more calories than chicken breast with broccoli, so one meal might have any many calories as three (or more) healthier meals, so yeah. And yup, you can be skinny but still have health problems due to bad eating habits, like too much fast food. If you see the ingredients, it will definitely scare you.0
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I belive it does! Its not how many times you eat than what you eat a person that will eat once a day but fast food like french fies and hamburger and a person that will eat 3 times a day but will eat chicken breast without frying or broccoli tuna fish exc will most likely lose weight or be in better forming shape then the other person... or some people eat whatever they want without gaining any weight but having health problems
Agree or disagree???
Disagree.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/
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http://abc7.com/health/teacher-loses-60-pounds-while-eating-nothing-but-mcdonalds/705916/
As long as you hit your calorie goals and any other personal nutrition goals you need to reach then you should lose weight.
Shouldn't this be on the Nutrition Debate forum?0 -
Disagree.
If a person eats foods like french fries and hamburger in a calorie deficit, they're going to lose weight. If they eat more than they burn, they're going to gain weight -- even if it is foods like chicken, broccoli, and tuna.
Some foods may make it easier for us to reach a deficit (If I eat a cinnamon roll for breakfast, I will be hungry again quickly. If I eat beans and rice for breakfast, I stay full for hours), but it's the deficit that creates weight weight -- not the foods that we're eating or not eating.0 -
Calorie deficit = weight loss. If the food fits into your calorie goals, it's fair game.0
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lisawinning4losing wrote: »French fries and a hamburger will have way more calories than chicken breast with broccoli, so one meal might has any many calories as three (or more) healthier meals, so yeah. And yup, you can be skinny but still have health problems due to bad eating habits, like too much fast food. If you see the ingredients, it will definitely scare you.
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I'm not sure I'm actually following your post, but if I'm responding to your post title only, no, a specific type of food does not help you lose weight. You lose weight by burning more calories than you consume. Whether you eat 1,200 calories of salad or 1,200 calories of chocolate, if you are in a deficit you will lose weight. Is it always healthy? Probably not, but CICO is the only end game.0
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diannethegeek wrote: »I belive it does! Its not how many times you eat than what you eat a person that will eat once a day but fast food like french fies and hamburger and a person that will eat 3 times a day but will eat chicken breast without frying or broccoli tuna fish exc will most likely lose weight or be in better forming shape then the other person... or some people eat whatever they want without gaining any weight but having health problems
Agree or disagree???
Disagree.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/
and
http://abc7.com/health/teacher-loses-60-pounds-while-eating-nothing-but-mcdonalds/705916/
As long as you hit your calorie goals and any other personal nutrition goals you need to reach then you should lose weight.
Shouldn't this be on the Nutrition Debate forum?
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Also, a lack of vegetables and fruit has been linked with cancer.
"Epidemiological research on fruit and vegetables and cancer then increased rapidly, and by 1992, a review of 156 studies concluded that ‘for most cancer sites, persons with low fruit and vegetable intake experience about twice the risk of cancer compared to those with a high intake, even after control for potentially confounding factors' (Block et al, 1992)."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3039795/0 -
michelle172415 wrote: »I'm not sure I'm actually following your post, but if I'm responding to your post title only, no, a specific type of food does not help you lose weight. You lose weight by burning more calories than you consume. Whether you eat 1,200 calories of salad or 1,200 calories of chocolate, if you are in a deficit you will lose weight. Is it always healthy? Probably not, but CICO is the only end game.
How will you burn more calories than you consume? I dont think that eating whatever you want and excercizing will do the trick or be enough0 -
michelle172415 wrote: »I'm not sure I'm actually following your post, but if I'm responding to your post title only, no, a specific type of food does not help you lose weight. You lose weight by burning more calories than you consume. Whether you eat 1,200 calories of salad or 1,200 calories of chocolate, if you are in a deficit you will lose weight. Is it always healthy? Probably not, but CICO is the only end game.
How will you burn more calories than you consume? I dont think that eating whatever you want and excercizing will do the trick or be enough
My body burns 2200 calories a day (my calculated TDEE based on basic formulas and my own tracking). If I eat less than 2200 calories a day, I'm eating less than I burn/burning more than I eat.0 -
lisawinning4losing wrote: »Also, a lack of vegetables and fruit has been linked with cancer.
"Epidemiological research on fruit and vegetables and cancer then increased rapidly, and by 1992, a review of 156 studies concluded that ‘for most cancer sites, persons with low fruit and vegetable intake experience about twice the risk of cancer compared to those with a high intake, even after control for potentially confounding factors' (Block et al, 1992)."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3039795/
Wait, is this thread about weight loss or how to best avoid cancer?
Wearing sunscreen also helps you avoid cancer, by the way. I think that is about as relevant to OP's question.0 -
Disagree: type of food makes no difference as long as you are at a deficit
Agree: type of food will make a difference in your satiety = greater success in your weight loss journey
this is a very basic take on it of course0 -
michelle172415 wrote: »I'm not sure I'm actually following your post, but if I'm responding to your post title only, no, a specific type of food does not help you lose weight. You lose weight by burning more calories than you consume. Whether you eat 1,200 calories of salad or 1,200 calories of chocolate, if you are in a deficit you will lose weight. Is it always healthy? Probably not, but CICO is the only end game.
How will you burn more calories than you consume? I dont think that eating whatever you want and excercizing will do the trick or be enough
OP, I eat what I want (which is sometimes french fries and sometimes broccoli) and exercise and it's enough for me. I reached my goal and am comfortably maintaining my weight loss. There are many people on this website with similar experiences.0 -
I say Snickers does. Often me eating a snickers is indicative that I've recently exercised, usually to the degree that I've burned off more calories than was in the Snickers or close enough, and I'm just eating it to do some more.0
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The health aspect was part of her question.
"or some people eat whatever they want without gaining any weight but having health problems"
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michelle172415 wrote: »I'm not sure I'm actually following your post, but if I'm responding to your post title only, no, a specific type of food does not help you lose weight. You lose weight by burning more calories than you consume. Whether you eat 1,200 calories of salad or 1,200 calories of chocolate, if you are in a deficit you will lose weight. Is it always healthy? Probably not, but CICO is the only end game.
How will you burn more calories than you consume? I dont think that eating whatever you want and excercizing will do the trick or be enough
The trick is you can eat whatever you want, but not necessarily as much and as often you'd want if you were eating with no care for the consequences. Instead, any person can generally fit an acceptable amount of at least any one food into their daily allotment and still meet a calorie goal for the day.0 -
I've met my protein goal for the day (using only ultra processed foods or whatever we are calling it now) but not fat or carbs. When I get off work and go home, I'm having a massive pile of french fries after I get finished lifting.
I got fat eating whatever I wanted. I got thin eating less of whatever I wanted, and now I'm gaining lean mass eating whatever I want, in monitored portions.
My blood tests and general health (including my diet) are all doctor approved.
So, tl;dr... I disagree.
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SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage wrote: »Disagree: type of food makes no difference as long as you are at a deficit
Agree: type of food will make a difference in your satiety = greater success in your weight loss journey
this is a very basic take on it of course
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I belive it does! Its not how many times you eat than what you eat a person that will eat once a day but fast food like french fies and hamburger and a person that will eat 3 times a day but will eat chicken breast without frying or broccoli tuna fish exc will most likely lose weight or be in better forming shape then the other person... or some people eat whatever they want without gaining any weight but having health problems
Agree or disagree???
Is there some kind of common misconception that if you have health problems it must be because you overeat or eat the wrong things (or both)? There are so many other reasons to have health issues.0 -
I belive it does! Its not how many times you eat than what you eat a person that will eat once a day but fast food like french fies and hamburger and a person that will eat 3 times a day but will eat chicken breast without frying or broccoli tuna fish exc will most likely lose weight or be in better forming shape then the other person... or some people eat whatever they want without gaining any weight but having health problems
Agree or disagree???
Is there some kind of common misconception that if you have health problems it must be because you overeat or eat the wrong things (or both)? There are so many other reasons to have health issues.[/quote
What you eat plays a big role
When you go to the doctor and you have high colestrual or blood pressure he says the things to eat and not to eat0 -
High cholesterol or high blood pressure could be because of genetics, not necessarily your diet.0
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For me, macros are more important than the type of food per sei. I find it much easier to stay in a deficit if I keep my protein high, fats moderate and carbs on the lower side. You could also look at this as the types of foods too lol0
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Disagree.
And if "bad" food really lead to demise, then penitentiary inmates are immune to death from eating low quality food.
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High cholesterol or high blood pressure could be because of genetics, not necessarily your diet.
That is possible because 5% of cancer is because of genetics we are told. 95% not being genetically related means a bunch of things must cause cancer. Maybe it can be specific food type related. We know carbs can increase cancer risks where as fats do not.
When I cut out sugars and all forms of gain in 2014 within two weeks carb cravings that I let control my eating just started to fade away. By day thirty the carb cravings had left and took most of my joint and muscle pain with it. Those factors reduced the CI of my CICO and I lost weight. Eating all I want now I have not regained any of the 50 pounds that I lost a year ago. This what happened in my case but some here tell me I am a special snowflake.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »High cholesterol or high blood pressure could be because of genetics, not necessarily your diet.
That is possible because 5% of cancer is because of genetics we are told. 95% not being genetically related means a bunch of things must cause cancer. Maybe it can be specific food type related. We know carbs can increase cancer risks where as fats do not.
When I cut out sugars and all forms of gain in 2014 within two weeks carb cravings that I let control my eating just started to fade away. By day thirty the carb cravings had left and took most of my joint and muscle pain with it. Those factors reduced the CI of my CICO and I lost weight. Eating all I want now I have not regained any of the 50 pounds that I lost a year ago. This what happened in my case but some here tell me I am a special snowflake.
To the bolded, saying "we know that..." with a fairly controversial and not widely accepted statement following it seems a little overzealous and misleading....0 -
I belive it does! Its not how many times you eat than what you eat a person that will eat once a day but fast food like french fies and hamburger and a person that will eat 3 times a day but will eat chicken breast without frying or broccoli tuna fish exc will most likely lose weight or be in better forming shape then the other person... or some people eat whatever they want without gaining any weight but having health problems
Agree or disagree???
OP as others have pointed out, what matters for weight loss is to be in a calorie deficit which can be done eating nothing but burgers and fries. However there are obviously nutritional differences in many of the foods you've listed which is why people advocate for eating a diet that focuses on nutrient dense foods like chicken and broccoli but doesn't exclude burgers and fries in moderation.
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WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »High cholesterol or high blood pressure could be because of genetics, not necessarily your diet.
That is possible because 5% of cancer is because of genetics we are told. 95% not being genetically related means a bunch of things must cause cancer. Maybe it can be specific food type related. We know carbs can increase cancer risks where as fats do not.
When I cut out sugars and all forms of gain in 2014 within two weeks carb cravings that I let control my eating just started to fade away. By day thirty the carb cravings had left and took most of my joint and muscle pain with it. Those factors reduced the CI of my CICO and I lost weight. Eating all I want now I have not regained any of the 50 pounds that I lost a year ago. This what happened in my case but some here tell me I am a special snowflake.
To the bolded, saying "we know that..." with a fairly controversial and not widely accepted statement following it seems a little overzealous and misleading....
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DancingDarl wrote: »michelle172415 wrote: »Whether you eat 1,200 calories of salad or 1,200 calories of chocolate, if you are in a deficit you will lose weight. Is it always healthy? Probably not, but CICO is the only end game.
This is a really bad mentality. The obesity epidemic is not based off of issues of losing weight most people are because of eating addictions to these kinds of comfort foods chocolate,chips Macdonalds.
Losing weight is not the issue, the issue is maintaining a healthy lifestyle for health.
CICO is just basic mathematics, dietetics or nutrition education is very helpful in terms or reaching a healthy lifestyle. I am not saying CICO is false just merely pointing the OP to keep searching fir foods that will benefit her health and long term weight loss involving micronutrients that create a feeling of satiation and not merely saturation..
Eating Addictions to comfort foods?
What about this posters mentality is bad?Is it always healthy? Probably not, but CICO is the only end game.
Per the OP, they believe specific food makes a difference in whether you lose weight, pointing out it's the calories that actually do (for weight loss) isn't a bad mentality....it's the truth.
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I agree its not about losing weight more than maintaining a healthy diet of course0
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