Gained weight on 1200cal diet, AND 800cal diet.
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I am aware of the fact TDEE changes every time you lose weight as I mentioned in my post.
Eat Train Progress Yah I am not surprised by the fact you aren't in that group otherwise you wouldn't be throwing numbers out at posters without all the knowledge required.
You do what you want...you don't like the formula don't use it...no skin off my nose...
My point really is this...and let me bold it for you okay...
do not throw numbers out to posters who are new to weight loss without all the knowledge you need to give them those numbers....and since you will not have that...don't throw numbers out.
Exits gracefully.
I didn't "throw out numbers". I took given facts by OP, made some reasonable assumption (3 days a week, 30 minutes of light activity, and a sedentary job), and provided a tested calculation based on that.
You don't like my numbers. Fine. I don't care. They are reasonable numbers, under reasonable assumptions. And, far more accurate than a 1 year average of TDEE, for which data doesn't even exist.1 -
rileysowner wrote: »
Why?
What's he weighing to determine that he lost weight from going to the bathroom?! shudder0 -
coreyreichle wrote: »
Um, being short, coupled with activity level has a whole lot to do with it. Which is why every TDEE calculator requires your height.
She said:
"Being short we really do have a small window so logging for weight loss is extremely important"
Just being short. That's all. That's the most important part of her TDEE (it isn't). That would mean anyone 5'2" or shorter has to eat less than her because they are not the same height. I would be stuck eating 1200-1300 calories per day because I am also 5'2". That's what I'm taking issue with. Being short shouldn't be singled out as they key factor to how many calories to eat each day.
It makes me sad that people truly believe their height is the sole reason for eating so little.0 -
coreyreichle wrote: »
I didn't "throw out numbers". I took given facts by OP, made some reasonable assumption (3 days a week, 30 minutes of light activity, and a sedentary job), and provided a tested calculation based on that.
You don't like my numbers. Fine. I don't care. They are reasonable numbers, under reasonable assumptions. And, far more accurate than a 1 year average of TDEE, for which data doesn't even exist.
Yes you did and no they aren't reasonable.Assuming exercising 3 times weekly for 30 mins at a light intensity, currently 144 lbs, and a sedentary job, your TDEE is 1643 cals per day.
which is not a reasonable TDEE for a women who is 144lbs. who said...I worked out like crazy every day
one of these days you will get it...hope I am here to see it...*smiles*0 -
She said:
"Being short we really do have a small window so logging for weight loss is extremely important"
Just being short. That's all. That's the most important part of her TDEE (it isn't). That would mean anyone 5'2" or shorter has to eat less than her because they are not the same height. I would be stuck eating 1200-1300 calories per day because I am also 5'2". That's what I'm taking issue with. Being short shouldn't be singled out as they key factor to how many calories to eat each day.
It makes me sad that people truly believe their height is the sole reason for eating so little.
Whoa wait that's not what that would mean at all. You took a lot from things she didn't say or imply. She didn't say "the shorter you are, the less you get to eat". She didn't say "every person that's one height has to eat the same calories". She didn't even say anything that implied that. All she said was "short people" have less wiggle room (otherwise known as "a small window") in diets, therefore logging has to be accurate.
The rest of the nonsense you're attributing to her came from you, not her.0 -
Didn't read the thread... but OP you're eating more than you think.
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Hey guys. First off, no need to be so rude to each other! Second off, I truly am logging everything. Down to the tiniest drops of olive oil. And I measure everything, although I do NOT have a scale, so I guess I'll be investing in that to make sure I'm being mega accurate.
Even so, my current logs can't be far off at all.
I know I know, I jumped the gun, I just panicked. ): I've never felt this fat in my life and it's really upsetting to me. I suppose I do have to wait at least a month.
Last note: I'm type one diabetic, and I've mentioned to my doctor what I'm doing, she told me to be careful and if I ever feel lightheaded to add 200 cals to my daily. So I have her OK on this, even if it was hesitant.
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StephanieLMcQuinn wrote: »Hey guys. First off, no need to be so rude to each other! Second off, I truly am logging everything. Down to the tiniest drops of olive oil. And I measure everything, although I do NOT have a scale, so I guess I'll be investing in that to make sure I'm being mega accurate. Even so, my current logs can't be far off at all.
I know I know, I jumped the gun, I just panicked. ): I've never felt this fat in my life and it's really upsetting to me. I suppose I do have to wait at least a month.
Last note: I'm type one diabetic, and I've mentioned to my doctor what I'm doing, she told me to be careful and if I ever feel lightheaded to add 200 cals to my daily. So I have her OK on this, even if it was hesitant.
They really can be, believe it or not. Weighing food instead of eyeballing or measuring can be very eye opening. And sad. Like the first time you weigh what you thought was a tablespoon of peanut butter.
Or happy like the first time you weigh feta cheese.
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maxxeckert wrote: »If you are not losing weight on 800-1200 calories, then you are logging inaccurately. It is near impossible to not lose weight with that caloric intake.
Precisely. You are just eating more than you think. It is that simple.
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StephanieLMcQuinn wrote: »Hey guys. First off, no need to be so rude to each other! Second off, I truly am logging everything. Down to the tiniest drops of olive oil. And I measure everything, #1 although I do NOT have a scale, so I guess I'll be investing in that to make sure I'm being mega accurate. Even so, #2 my current logs can't be far off at all.
I know I know, I jumped the gun, I just panicked. ): I've never felt this fat in my life and it's really upsetting to me. I suppose I do have to wait at least a month.
Last note: I'm type one diabetic, and I've mentioned to my doctor what I'm doing, she told me to be careful and if I ever feel lightheaded to add 200 cals to my daily. So I have her OK on this, even if it was hesitant.
#1 Get a digital scale
#2 Oh yes they can if you arent weighing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpHykP6e_Uk
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I_Will_End_You wrote: »
They really can be, believe it or not. Weighing food instead of eyeballing or measuring can be very eye opening. And sad. Like the first time you weigh what you thought was a tablespoon of peanut butter.
Or happy like the first time you weigh feta cheese.
This 100%.
You're in for an awakening, believe me.0 -
You're still eating more than you think.
Either that or you have a big medical issue and should really go see a doctor... but my guess it that it's not the case.
Weighing food and using accurate entries is important. Using the right entries for cooked food, dry food, raw food... packaged food that can be off by 30% on the label AND weigh more than what the label says, or just underestimating everything by 30%... It's VERY easy to be off by quite a lot.0 -
StephanieLMcQuinn wrote: »Hey guys. First off, no need to be so rude to each other! Second off, I truly am logging everything. Down to the tiniest drops of olive oil. And I measure everything, although I do NOT have a scale, so I guess I'll be investing in that to make sure I'm being mega accurate. Even so, my current logs can't be far off at all.
I know I know, I jumped the gun, I just panicked. ): I've never felt this fat in my life and it's really upsetting to me. I suppose I do have to wait at least a month.
Last note: I'm type one diabetic, and I've mentioned to my doctor what I'm doing, she told me to be careful and if I ever feel lightheaded to add 200 cals to my daily. So I have her OK on this, even if it was hesitant.
Get a food scale. Measuring food is not very accurate. Chances are your eating more then you think and your retaining water from exercise.0 -
Yep time to get a food scale OP.0
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Yes you did and no they aren't reasonable.
which is not a reasonable TDEE for a women who is 144lbs. who said...
one of these days you will get it...hope I am here to see it...*smiles*
They are completely reasonable. Most people have no idea what "working out like crazy every day" really means. People assume I do that too, and they know how far, and how long I run for. It's really not much, maybe 300-500 cals worth per day, and that's for 1.5 hours of exercising a day, 5 days per week, and my TDEE is only ~2200 cals as a 5'10" male, weighing 170lbs.
Sure. You believe what you like is reasonable. I provided sourcing. You gave an overly simplistic, and incorrect formula to follow.
There's nothing I need to "get". I've already "got it". I've reached my goal weight already, and am working on maintenance. I arrived here, on schedule, per iifym.com's calculator.0 -
If you end up getting a food scale, please come back and let us know if that was the reason. I would be interested to see if you figure out if you actually were eating too many and that was the reason.0
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What's he weighing to determine that he lost weight from going to the bathroom?! shudder
Is it poop on those scales ?
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coreyreichle wrote: »
They are completely reasonable. Most people have no idea what "working out like crazy every day" really means. People assume I do that too, and they know how far, and how long I run for. It's really not much, maybe 300-500 cals worth per day, and that's for 1.5 hours of exercising a day, 5 days per week, and my TDEE is only ~2200 cals as a 5'10" male, weighing 170lbs.
Sure. You believe what you like is reasonable. I provided sourcing. You gave an overly simplistic, and incorrect formula to follow.
There's nothing I need to "get". I've already "got it". I've reached my goal weight already, and am working on maintenance. I arrived here, on schedule, per iifym.com's calculator.
Just a few questions. Do you have a medical issue or are you otherwise sedentary? I ask because for your stats a TDEE of 2200 seems kind of low. I'm 5'3", 115 pounds, and a female and my TDEE is 2200 to 2600. I didn't really think I was all that active.0 -
Just a few questions. Do you have a medical issue or are you otherwise sedentary? I ask because for your stats a TDEE of 2200 seems kind of low. I'm 5'3", 115 pounds, and a female and my TDEE is 2200 to 2600. I didn't really think I was all that active.
See to me your TDEE seems high. I'm 5'4", 135-140lbs, lightly active and have a TDEE of 1800....0 -
arditarose wrote: »
See to me your TDEE seems high. I'm 5'4", 135-140lbs, lightly active and have a TDEE of 1800....
I'm 5'5", 136 pounds and my TDEE is 2200... I'm also 7 years older than you. You must be eating more than you think...0 -
arditarose wrote: »
See to me your TDEE seems high. I'm 5'4", 135-140lbs, lightly active and have a TDEE of 1800....
I thought the same. I'm 5"8 and 148lbs, and on a particularly active day, walking 10 miles, I can push my TDEE up to 2600. I'm 44.
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arditarose wrote: »
See to me your TDEE seems high. I'm 5'4", 135-140lbs, lightly active and have a TDEE of 1800....
I exercise for 30 to 60 minutes per day and also walk 15000 to 25000 steps per day. I'm not gaining weight at the rate I should be, so I guess that may be it, then.0 -
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MommyMeggo wrote: »
#1 Get a digital scale
#2 Oh yes they can if you arent weighing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpHykP6e_Uk
Here's another goodun
https://youtu.be/JVjWPclrWVY
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I exercise for 30 to 60 minutes per day and also walk 15000 to 25000 steps per day. I'm not gaining weight at the rate I should be, so I guess that may be it, then.
Yeah, you're more active than I am.0 -
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I know, that's what it looks like to me to. But ya never know....
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Again GPs are not registered dieticians....and unless they specialize in nutrition should not be giving nutrional advice above geneic stuff like keep saturated fats down. Don't over eat.
Should not be giving nutritional advice?
No. Not all doctors are trained in nutrition. But that does not mean that the doctor does not have an outside interest in it and has pursued additional training. My own admits she doesn't know much about nutrition and will readily refer her patients to a dietician. She does, however, possess a lot more knowledge about pregnancy/delivery than your average GP because she has a particular interest in it. She's not a OB, but she keeps up to date on all the latest info whereas many GP's still follow old school advice they were taught way back when. I implicitly trust her advice on those matters even though she is "just" a GP.
It comes down to your relationship with your doctor. You can't make blanket statements.
Suggest she question the advice, sure. I am always on board with questioning it. Outright dismissing it though?0 -
If I told what was in it, you would not even try any...
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I regret starting us down this path of conversation.1
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