Gained weight on 1200cal diet, AND 800cal diet.
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I have been everywhere on my caloric intake to find the right balance! I have been 1200, 1600, and I am where I want to be at 1400. Just cutting out sugar and processed foods has made a huge difference for me. I dropped my carbs to 75, and I am still losing. I have dropped 10lbs within the last month. I am 5'2" as well, but I started at 195lbs. I do not exercise either. What are your daily #'s like?0
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StephanieLMcQuinn wrote: »First off, I'm 5'2 and I weighed a steady 130 lbs for years. Over the winter I slowly gained weight, until I got to 144. In January I started a 1200cal diet with cardio exercise, and gained 2 pounds. Last week, I read that for some RARE women, 1200 may not be enough for weight loss, so I (maybe stupidly), restricted to 800cals. I worked out like crazy every day. I gained another pound. I feel so frustrated I want to cry. In hindsight, I know 800 was probably too little. I should have done 1000. But still! I don't know what else to do. I'm only 21 years old. I'm trying to get to 120 lbs. Please feel free to add me for Support as well.
Could be that you are adding muscle and not fat. I would monitor your body fat percent and muscle mass. My scale does that for me.0 -
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I_Will_End_You wrote: »StephanieLMcQuinn wrote: »Hey guys. First off, no need to be so rude to each other! Second off, I truly am logging everything. Down to the tiniest drops of olive oil. And I measure everything, although I do NOT have a scale, so I guess I'll be investing in that to make sure I'm being mega accurate.
Even so, my current logs can't be far off at all.
I know I know, I jumped the gun, I just panicked. ): I've never felt this fat in my life and it's really upsetting to me. I suppose I do have to wait at least a month.
Last note: I'm type one diabetic, and I've mentioned to my doctor what I'm doing, she told me to be careful and if I ever feel lightheaded to add 200 cals to my daily. So I have her OK on this, even if it was hesitant.
They really can be, believe it or not. Weighing food instead of eyeballing or measuring can be very eye opening. And sad. Like the first time you weigh what you thought was a tablespoon of peanut butter.
Or happy like the first time you weigh feta cheese.
I remember actually weighing out what I thought was two tablespoons of peanut butter. Turns out I was actually eating 4-5 and I wondered why my weight wouldn't budge.0 -
lauraesh0384 wrote: »I_Will_End_You wrote: »StephanieLMcQuinn wrote: »Hey guys. First off, no need to be so rude to each other! Second off, I truly am logging everything. Down to the tiniest drops of olive oil. And I measure everything, although I do NOT have a scale, so I guess I'll be investing in that to make sure I'm being mega accurate. Even so, my current logs can't be far off at all.
I know I know, I jumped the gun, I just panicked. ): I've never felt this fat in my life and it's really upsetting to me. I suppose I do have to wait at least a month.
Last note: I'm type one diabetic, and I've mentioned to my doctor what I'm doing, she told me to be careful and if I ever feel lightheaded to add 200 cals to my daily. So I have her OK on this, even if it was hesitant.
They really can be, believe it or not. Weighing food instead of eyeballing or measuring can be very eye opening. And sad. Like the first time you weigh what you thought was a tablespoon of peanut butter.
Or happy like the first time you weigh feta cheese.
I remember actually weighing out what I thought was two tablespoons of peanut butter. Turns out I was actually eating 4-5 and I wondered why my weight wouldn't budge.
Haha one REAL serving of peanut butter is hardly worth it, It's just a tease...1 -
StephanieLMcQuinn wrote: »First off, I'm 5'2 and I weighed a steady 130 lbs for years. Over the winter I slowly gained weight, until I got to 144. In January I started a 1200cal diet with cardio exercise, and gained 2 pounds. Last week, I read that for some RARE women, 1200 may not be enough for weight loss, so I (maybe stupidly), restricted to 800cals. I worked out like crazy every day. I gained another pound. I feel so frustrated I want to cry. In hindsight, I know 800 was probably too little. I should have done 1000. But still! I don't know what else to do. I'm only 21 years old. I'm trying to get to 120 lbs. Please feel free to add me for Support as well.
Could be that you are adding muscle and not fat. I would monitor your body fat percent and muscle mass. My scale does that for me.
No, could not be at 800 kcal and strenuous exercise.0 -
To gain 1 pound in a week at an intake of 800 kcal per day, your daily expenditure would have to be 300 kcal.
That's as much as a 6 pound infant burns, not a grown woman.0 -
coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »StephanieLMcQuinn wrote: »First off, I'm 5'2 and I weighed a steady 130 lbs for years. Over the winter I slowly gained weight, until I got to 144. In January I started a 1200cal diet with cardio exercise, and gained 2 pounds. Last week, I read that for some RARE women, 1200 may not be enough for weight loss, so I (maybe stupidly), restricted to 800cals. I worked out like crazy every day. I gained another pound. I feel so frustrated I want to cry. In hindsight, I know 800 was probably too little. I should have done 1000. But still! I don't know what else to do. I'm only 21 years old. I'm trying to get to 120 lbs. Please feel free to add me for Support as well.
Assuming exercising 3 times weekly for 30 mins at a light intensity, currently 144 lbs, and a sedentary job, your TDEE is 1643 cals per day.
You're short (No offense meant), but you're fighting an uphill battle. Any error in your logging could completely wipe any deficit you might have.
Buy and use a food scale, to get the most accurate logging possible. I would not recommend logging your exercise in the app, as the estimates for caloric burn rate are way off. Set your daily goal to 1200, log accurately, and see what happens for a bit. I'm guessing overestimation of caloric burn coupled with inaccurate logging is what is doing you in. Very heavy individuals can error greatly in both, and still see results, because their TDEE is so high to being with. You're only 20 lbs over, have a low TDEE, so you need to really knuckle down on the logging aspect.
@coreyreichle Where do you get 1643?
I checked on a site that I find close to actuals and with exercise and age and other stats it calculates it at 2k....
cut at 1610...which makes sense at her age, current weight and exercise...
http://www.iifym.com/tdee-calculator/
Bear in mind, I also made some assumptions, which I laid out, and OP didn't provide (ie, intensity level of exercise, time/frequency of exercise, and daily activity level).
I made assumptions as well on exercise
http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
typically these are quite close.
https://tdeecalculator.net/result.php?s=imperial&g=female&age=21&lbs=144&in=61&act=1.375&f=1
this one is higher than yours as well....hence the reason giving out numbers is not a good idea.
To figure out TDEE actually requires personal data and this formula
Total calories consumed + (lbs lostx 3500)/#days
need to be accurate with consumption using a food scale of course and at least 21 days.
Personally, I don't like to use the sites you supplied, due to lack of granularity in what data you provide. ie, how much exercise and for how long...
But, to each their own, I suppose.
@coreyreichle you missed the most important part of my post...how to calculate your own tdee without assumptions and websites.
and the fact you shouldn't throw numbers at folks without really knowing the facts.
Your simplistic formula fails to take into account the fact that your TDEE changes based current, or sloped weight, though, so it's fairly inaccurate.
I used the facts I knew (She supplied), added some reasonable assumptions to fill out the required data, provided the source (When asked) so she could do it on her own.
To boil is down, your simple formula doesn't work. It would work well if you limited it to a data set of 4 weeks, as weight changes don't happen that quickly.
So, you shouldn't throw around formulas that are untested, because you don't like time tested formula/calculators.
@coreyreichle Interesting..untested eh.
It is a simple formula that is correct but it has been tested numerous times by those in the Eat Train progress group and I trust SideSteel and Sara with the information they provide way over a website where one is making assumptions and throwing arbitrary numbers out to someone that they don't know much about just some info on a forum post.
SMH
FYI if you use rolling data you get your accurate tdee and it's much more accurate than those sites you use, and based on your own assertions TDEE changes (correct) based on weight and activity...so your sites will have to be visited as much as the formula has to be calculated...keep in mind the formula doesn't make assumptions.
You do know TDEE calcs change every time you lose weight, right?
If I were to include data in an average from 1 year ago in my TDEE calcs, it would push me over my TDEE. Sure, your formula works, if your weight is stable over the period, but with someone trying to lose/gain, you're always running late, so to speak (Either over/under).
Your formula makes a critically incorrect assumption: Your TDEE is constant over the time period, which is why I said it would work better if you shortened the period to 4 weeks, rather than 12 months.
Eat Train? Never heard of them. IIFYM? Scooby? Well accepted sources of data in the fitness community, from runners to body builders. I'll take their well tested methods over Eat Train progress groups any day.
I am aware of the fact TDEE changes every time you lose weight as I mentioned in my post.
Eat Train Progress Yah I am not surprised by the fact you aren't in that group otherwise you wouldn't be throwing numbers out at posters without all the knowledge required.
You do what you want...you don't like the formula don't use it...no skin off my nose...
My point really is this...and let me bold it for you okay...
do not throw numbers out to posters who are new to weight loss without all the knowledge you need to give them those numbers....and since you will not have that...don't throw numbers out.
Exits gracefully.
I didn't "throw out numbers". I took given facts by OP, made some reasonable assumption (3 days a week, 30 minutes of light activity, and a sedentary job), and provided a tested calculation based on that.
You don't like my numbers. Fine. I don't care. They are reasonable numbers, under reasonable assumptions. And, far more accurate than a 1 year average of TDEE, for which data doesn't even exist.
Yes you did and no they aren't reasonable.Assuming exercising 3 times weekly for 30 mins at a light intensity, currently 144 lbs, and a sedentary job, your TDEE is 1643 cals per day.
which is not a reasonable TDEE for a women who is 144lbs. who said...I worked out like crazy every day
one of these days you will get it...hope I am here to see it...*smiles*
They are completely reasonable. Most people have no idea what "working out like crazy every day" really means. People assume I do that too, and they know how far, and how long I run for. It's really not much, maybe 300-500 cals worth per day, and that's for 1.5 hours of exercising a day, 5 days per week, and my TDEE is only ~2200 cals as a 5'10" male, weighing 170lbs.
Sure. You believe what you like is reasonable. I provided sourcing. You gave an overly simplistic, and incorrect formula to follow.
There's nothing I need to "get". I've already "got it". I've reached my goal weight already, and am working on maintenance. I arrived here, on schedule, per iifym.com's calculator.
Just a few questions. Do you have a medical issue or are you otherwise sedentary? I ask because for your stats a TDEE of 2200 seems kind of low. I'm 5'3", 115 pounds, and a female and my TDEE is 2200 to 2600. I didn't really think I was all that active.
Oh looky I was here...
and that's my point...I am 43 5 ft 7 155lbs current TDEE is 2100-2300 with summer coming it will jump to 2600 and I am female and above 40....
I have a desk job so that puts me at sedentary for almost 8 hours a day....I work out 4x a week for 15mins atm and starting in on the cardio
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shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »I am also 5 2 and 47 year's old. Being short we really do have a small window so logging for weight loss is extremely important and some kind of activity as this will help offset any inaccurate logging.
I tried this last year it's the first time I had tried to lose weight. I was logging ok but not moving enough. I know for me I have keep my calorie at 1200 - 1300 a day but I walk between 2.5 - 3 miles per day.
I have been back at this for a month and have lost 8.4 pounds. I know now I am doing it the right way for my body.
Please stop using your height as the sole reason for eating 1200 calories. I'm 5'2", 45 y/o, and maintain on 1900-2000 calories a day. Unless you're trapped working out in a Jefferies tube, being short has no bearing.
Not using it as an excuse lol. My total calorie need is not the same as someone who is 6 foot. I opt to believe my doctor.
Rude. Seriously
truth is that a GP doesn't have enough training to suggest a calorie goal.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430660/
Is a study done which indicates that the average time spent by doctors studying nutrition is about 24hours in the duration of their studies and this included specialist.
If you want to know what you should be eating talk to an up to date registered dietician.
my doctor is pretty on the ball.
Not.all doctors are misinformed or uninformed . Some actually care about weight loss nutrition and proper activity for their patients. Not all doctors are the same
But, are they on MFP to share the wisdom everyone has on here? Do they know how to google? I am pretty sure that no. Only a hairdresser/bus driver/musician/programmer can google and understand medical facts. Someone actually in the medical profession, no way! They are just relying on their schooling, which cannot compare to dr google, and have absolutely no access to internet like the rest of us 0 -
StephanieLMcQuinn wrote: »First off, I'm 5'2 and I weighed a steady 130 lbs for years. Over the winter I slowly gained weight, until I got to 144. In January I started a 1200cal diet with cardio exercise, and gained 2 pounds. Last week, I read that for some RARE women, 1200 may not be enough for weight loss, so I (maybe stupidly), restricted to 800cals. I worked out like crazy every day. I gained another pound. I feel so frustrated I want to cry. In hindsight, I know 800 was probably too little. I should have done 1000. But still! I don't know what else to do. I'm only 21 years old. I'm trying to get to 120 lbs. Please feel free to add me for Support as well.
Could be that you are adding muscle and not fat. I would monitor your body fat percent and muscle mass. My scale does that for me.
Those scales lie. Sorry to break your bubble...0 -
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After a certain point (~1200-1500 for the average person), your body will begin to hold on to whatever in can in an attempt not to die.
No, no, no.
Starvation mode in weght loss is not a thing.
Please stop spreading misinformation.
Undereating causes deficiencies, not magic weight gain that defies science. No one will gain weight at a true and calculated deficit. Your body does not defy the laws of thermodynamics.0 -
shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »I am also 5 2 and 47 year's old. Being short we really do have a small window so logging for weight loss is extremely important and some kind of activity as this will help offset any inaccurate logging.
I tried this last year it's the first time I had tried to lose weight. I was logging ok but not moving enough. I know for me I have keep my calorie at 1200 - 1300 a day but I walk between 2.5 - 3 miles per day.
I have been back at this for a month and have lost 8.4 pounds. I know now I am doing it the right way for my body.
Please stop using your height as the sole reason for eating 1200 calories. I'm 5'2", 45 y/o, and maintain on 1900-2000 calories a day. Unless you're trapped working out in a Jefferies tube, being short has no bearing.
Not using it as an excuse lol. My total calorie need is not the same as someone who is 6 foot. I opt to believe my doctor.
Rude. Seriously
truth is that a GP doesn't have enough training to suggest a calorie goal.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430660/
Is a study done which indicates that the average time spent by doctors studying nutrition is about 24hours in the duration of their studies and this included specialist.
If you want to know what you should be eating talk to an up to date registered dietician.
my doctor is pretty on the ball.
Not.all doctors are misinformed or uninformed . Some actually care about weight loss nutrition and proper activity for their patients. Not all doctors are the same
But, are they on MFP to share the wisdom everyone has on here? Do they know how to google? I am pretty sure that no. Only a hairdresser/bus driver/musician/programmer can google and understand medical facts. Someone actually in the medical profession, no way! They are just relying on their schooling, which cannot compare to dr google, and have absolutely no access to internet like the rest of us
Might want to be careful there are folks here with degrees in all sort of things...and Phd's as well....0 -
lauraesh0384 wrote: »
I remember actually weighing out what I thought was two tablespoons of peanut butter. Turns out I was actually eating 4-5 and I wondered why my weight wouldn't budge.
This one was a real eye-opener for me as well. I make a spicy peanut dipping sauce for vietnamese summer rolls, and I always was proud that mine was so much richer and more delicious than the sauce we got in vietnamese restaurants. Turns out it's because I was using 3-4x the amount of peanut butter called for in the recipes...
Reiterating my eternal wish that EVERYTHING could be measured in grams and that that was the default that came up in the MFP food entries...just sending that wish out into the universe...
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lauraesh0384 wrote: »
I remember actually weighing out what I thought was two tablespoons of peanut butter. Turns out I was actually eating 4-5 and I wondered why my weight wouldn't budge.
This one was a real eye-opener for me as well. I make a spicy peanut dipping sauce for vietnamese summer rolls, and I always was proud that mine was so much richer and more delicious than the sauce we got in vietnamese restaurants. Turns out it's because I was using 3-4x the amount of peanut butter called for in the recipes...
Reiterating my eternal wish that EVERYTHING could be measured in grams and that that was the default that came up in the MFP food entries...just sending that wish out into the universe...
Whaat don't you measure your peanut butter and garlic in mls?
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OP I would focus on better accounting. Get a digital scale and weigh your food for accuracy. Log every thing, licks, tastes, bites add up. If you're adding calories for cardio some treadmills or sites grossly over estimate calories burned, I recommend using a chest strap heart rate monitor. I would make my diary open, so knowledgeable and experienced MFP members can peer review. I wouldn't go down to 800, very low calorie diets are usually only prescribed for severely obese with high BMI. Most MFPers subscribe to the concept of calories in/ calories out (CICO), so when you post you're gaining at a severe deficit it throws a red flag, something probably isn't right with your accounting.
Wish you the best results on your journey
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We're about the same size, I'm 5'3 and had gone up to 146 before I got serious about my health again. I usually maintain about 127 easily except for the last couple winters where I keep gaining. When I begin a diet, I also begin exercising- and I always gain a pound that first week even though I'm restricting calories. It's definitely something related to the working out. Keep at it, and you will succeed. I workout 6 days a week and eat about 1500-1600 cals per day and I've lost 9 lbs in 7 weeks. You can reach your goal- don't give up :-)0
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coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »StephanieLMcQuinn wrote: »First off, I'm 5'2 and I weighed a steady 130 lbs for years. Over the winter I slowly gained weight, until I got to 144. In January I started a 1200cal diet with cardio exercise, and gained 2 pounds. Last week, I read that for some RARE women, 1200 may not be enough for weight loss, so I (maybe stupidly), restricted to 800cals. I worked out like crazy every day. I gained another pound. I feel so frustrated I want to cry. In hindsight, I know 800 was probably too little. I should have done 1000. But still! I don't know what else to do. I'm only 21 years old. I'm trying to get to 120 lbs. Please feel free to add me for Support as well.
Assuming exercising 3 times weekly for 30 mins at a light intensity, currently 144 lbs, and a sedentary job, your TDEE is 1643 cals per day.
You're short (No offense meant), but you're fighting an uphill battle. Any error in your logging could completely wipe any deficit you might have.
Buy and use a food scale, to get the most accurate logging possible. I would not recommend logging your exercise in the app, as the estimates for caloric burn rate are way off. Set your daily goal to 1200, log accurately, and see what happens for a bit. I'm guessing overestimation of caloric burn coupled with inaccurate logging is what is doing you in. Very heavy individuals can error greatly in both, and still see results, because their TDEE is so high to being with. You're only 20 lbs over, have a low TDEE, so you need to really knuckle down on the logging aspect.
@coreyreichle Where do you get 1643?
I checked on a site that I find close to actuals and with exercise and age and other stats it calculates it at 2k....
cut at 1610...which makes sense at her age, current weight and exercise...
http://www.iifym.com/tdee-calculator/
Bear in mind, I also made some assumptions, which I laid out, and OP didn't provide (ie, intensity level of exercise, time/frequency of exercise, and daily activity level).
I made assumptions as well on exercise
http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
typically these are quite close.
https://tdeecalculator.net/result.php?s=imperial&g=female&age=21&lbs=144&in=61&act=1.375&f=1
this one is higher than yours as well....hence the reason giving out numbers is not a good idea.
To figure out TDEE actually requires personal data and this formula
Total calories consumed + (lbs lostx 3500)/#days
need to be accurate with consumption using a food scale of course and at least 21 days.
Personally, I don't like to use the sites you supplied, due to lack of granularity in what data you provide. ie, how much exercise and for how long...
But, to each their own, I suppose.
@coreyreichle you missed the most important part of my post...how to calculate your own tdee without assumptions and websites.
and the fact you shouldn't throw numbers at folks without really knowing the facts.
Your simplistic formula fails to take into account the fact that your TDEE changes based current, or sloped weight, though, so it's fairly inaccurate.
I used the facts I knew (She supplied), added some reasonable assumptions to fill out the required data, provided the source (When asked) so she could do it on her own.
To boil is down, your simple formula doesn't work. It would work well if you limited it to a data set of 4 weeks, as weight changes don't happen that quickly.
So, you shouldn't throw around formulas that are untested, because you don't like time tested formula/calculators.
@coreyreichle Interesting..untested eh.
It is a simple formula that is correct but it has been tested numerous times by those in the Eat Train progress group and I trust SideSteel and Sara with the information they provide way over a website where one is making assumptions and throwing arbitrary numbers out to someone that they don't know much about just some info on a forum post.
SMH
FYI if you use rolling data you get your accurate tdee and it's much more accurate than those sites you use, and based on your own assertions TDEE changes (correct) based on weight and activity...so your sites will have to be visited as much as the formula has to be calculated...keep in mind the formula doesn't make assumptions.
You do know TDEE calcs change every time you lose weight, right?
If I were to include data in an average from 1 year ago in my TDEE calcs, it would push me over my TDEE. Sure, your formula works, if your weight is stable over the period, but with someone trying to lose/gain, you're always running late, so to speak (Either over/under).
Your formula makes a critically incorrect assumption: Your TDEE is constant over the time period, which is why I said it would work better if you shortened the period to 4 weeks, rather than 12 months.
Eat Train? Never heard of them. IIFYM? Scooby? Well accepted sources of data in the fitness community, from runners to body builders. I'll take their well tested methods over Eat Train progress groups any day.
I am aware of the fact TDEE changes every time you lose weight as I mentioned in my post.
Eat Train Progress Yah I am not surprised by the fact you aren't in that group otherwise you wouldn't be throwing numbers out at posters without all the knowledge required.
You do what you want...you don't like the formula don't use it...no skin off my nose...
My point really is this...and let me bold it for you okay...
do not throw numbers out to posters who are new to weight loss without all the knowledge you need to give them those numbers....and since you will not have that...don't throw numbers out.
Exits gracefully.
I didn't "throw out numbers". I took given facts by OP, made some reasonable assumption (3 days a week, 30 minutes of light activity, and a sedentary job), and provided a tested calculation based on that.
You don't like my numbers. Fine. I don't care. They are reasonable numbers, under reasonable assumptions. And, far more accurate than a 1 year average of TDEE, for which data doesn't even exist.
Yes you did and no they aren't reasonable.Assuming exercising 3 times weekly for 30 mins at a light intensity, currently 144 lbs, and a sedentary job, your TDEE is 1643 cals per day.
which is not a reasonable TDEE for a women who is 144lbs. who said...I worked out like crazy every day
one of these days you will get it...hope I am here to see it...*smiles*
So she should be eating MORE than 1643 calories per day. I dunno. I'm hovering around the 144 lb mark myself, and I wouldn't say I "work out like crazy every day" but I do run around 35 miles per week, which isn't nothing. I'm maintaining on 2500 calories per day.
The thing is: She claims to be eating 800 calories, and she also sees an increase in her weight. I think 1643 sounds like a very reasonable goal to start with, if she can be bothered to measure accurately. If it turns out that she continues to "work out like crazy every day" she might find that she's losing weight faster than she'd like on that intake. No problem. Then she can eat a bit more. If it turns out that she doesn't keep up with the crazy exercise, it might be just perfect. If she decides to veg out on the couch all day, every day, she might have better luck on a little less.
But seriously, I don't understand the reaction over the number. I think the OP should focus on accurate measurement of what she's doing before she starts making any more changes in either direction.0 -
3 lbs is a normal amount of weight fluctuation for a woman. Doesn't mean you are gaining on so few calories. I'm in maintenance now and weigh daily. I see how much my weight fluctuates up and down throughout the month.High sodium, hormones, new exercise routine can easily make the scale shift up. Give it time and do not restrict your calories too much. You hurt yourself more by doing that. I'm 47 and 5'2" and maintain on 1800-1900 calories. I do very little cardio and would say I'm lightly active. My weight can be anywhere between 114-117 throughout the month.0
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coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »StephanieLMcQuinn wrote: »First off, I'm 5'2 and I weighed a steady 130 lbs for years. Over the winter I slowly gained weight, until I got to 144. In January I started a 1200cal diet with cardio exercise, and gained 2 pounds. Last week, I read that for some RARE women, 1200 may not be enough for weight loss, so I (maybe stupidly), restricted to 800cals. I worked out like crazy every day. I gained another pound. I feel so frustrated I want to cry. In hindsight, I know 800 was probably too little. I should have done 1000. But still! I don't know what else to do. I'm only 21 years old. I'm trying to get to 120 lbs. Please feel free to add me for Support as well.
Assuming exercising 3 times weekly for 30 mins at a light intensity, currently 144 lbs, and a sedentary job, your TDEE is 1643 cals per day.
You're short (No offense meant), but you're fighting an uphill battle. Any error in your logging could completely wipe any deficit you might have.
Buy and use a food scale, to get the most accurate logging possible. I would not recommend logging your exercise in the app, as the estimates for caloric burn rate are way off. Set your daily goal to 1200, log accurately, and see what happens for a bit. I'm guessing overestimation of caloric burn coupled with inaccurate logging is what is doing you in. Very heavy individuals can error greatly in both, and still see results, because their TDEE is so high to being with. You're only 20 lbs over, have a low TDEE, so you need to really knuckle down on the logging aspect.
@coreyreichle Where do you get 1643?
I checked on a site that I find close to actuals and with exercise and age and other stats it calculates it at 2k....
cut at 1610...which makes sense at her age, current weight and exercise...
http://www.iifym.com/tdee-calculator/
Bear in mind, I also made some assumptions, which I laid out, and OP didn't provide (ie, intensity level of exercise, time/frequency of exercise, and daily activity level).
I made assumptions as well on exercise
http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
typically these are quite close.
https://tdeecalculator.net/result.php?s=imperial&g=female&age=21&lbs=144&in=61&act=1.375&f=1
this one is higher than yours as well....hence the reason giving out numbers is not a good idea.
To figure out TDEE actually requires personal data and this formula
Total calories consumed + (lbs lostx 3500)/#days
need to be accurate with consumption using a food scale of course and at least 21 days.
Personally, I don't like to use the sites you supplied, due to lack of granularity in what data you provide. ie, how much exercise and for how long...
But, to each their own, I suppose.
@coreyreichle you missed the most important part of my post...how to calculate your own tdee without assumptions and websites.
and the fact you shouldn't throw numbers at folks without really knowing the facts.
You did exactly the same but with a much higher number? How is that better?0 -
shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »I am also 5 2 and 47 year's old. Being short we really do have a small window so logging for weight loss is extremely important and some kind of activity as this will help offset any inaccurate logging.
I tried this last year it's the first time I had tried to lose weight. I was logging ok but not moving enough. I know for me I have keep my calorie at 1200 - 1300 a day but I walk between 2.5 - 3 miles per day.
I have been back at this for a month and have lost 8.4 pounds. I know now I am doing it the right way for my body.
Please stop using your height as the sole reason for eating 1200 calories. I'm 5'2", 45 y/o, and maintain on 1900-2000 calories a day. Unless you're trapped working out in a Jefferies tube, being short has no bearing.
Not using it as an excuse lol. My total calorie need is not the same as someone who is 6 foot. I opt to believe my doctor.
Rude. Seriously
truth is that a GP doesn't have enough training to suggest a calorie goal.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430660/
Is a study done which indicates that the average time spent by doctors studying nutrition is about 24hours in the duration of their studies and this included specialist.
If you want to know what you should be eating talk to an up to date registered dietician.
my doctor is pretty on the ball.
Not.all doctors are misinformed or uninformed . Some actually care about weight loss nutrition and proper activity for their patients. Not all doctors are the same
Again GPs are not registered dieticians....and unless they specialize in nutrition should not be giving nutrional advice above geneic stuff like keep saturated fats down. Don't over eat.
You don't know my doctor so why judge his qualifications ?
Don't over eat? Lol. You think it's because of me over eating ? No. You don't know my medical history
Not one sitiuation applies to everyone. Gesh.
I really try to like this community. But it's just judgment and know it all behavior
To the OP. Tigten up your logging and up your activity. Keep at it and you will see results. Good luck ❤
Why did you ask for advice if you are just going to refute everything that is offered? Stop being so offended and take the advice of the forum, there has been some good advice offered here but it seems you've ignored it all.
Its nothing against your doctor or others, they simply do not have the correct training to be offering the kind of advice. That is why we have dietitians.0 -
JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »I am also 5 2 and 47 year's old. Being short we really do have a small window so logging for weight loss is extremely important and some kind of activity as this will help offset any inaccurate logging.
I tried this last year it's the first time I had tried to lose weight. I was logging ok but not moving enough. I know for me I have keep my calorie at 1200 - 1300 a day but I walk between 2.5 - 3 miles per day.
I have been back at this for a month and have lost 8.4 pounds. I know now I am doing it the right way for my body.
Please stop using your height as the sole reason for eating 1200 calories. I'm 5'2", 45 y/o, and maintain on 1900-2000 calories a day. Unless you're trapped working out in a Jefferies tube, being short has no bearing.
Not using it as an excuse lol. My total calorie need is not the same as someone who is 6 foot. I opt to believe my doctor.
Rude. Seriously
truth is that a GP doesn't have enough training to suggest a calorie goal.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430660/
Is a study done which indicates that the average time spent by doctors studying nutrition is about 24hours in the duration of their studies and this included specialist.
If you want to know what you should be eating talk to an up to date registered dietician.
my doctor is pretty on the ball.
Not.all doctors are misinformed or uninformed . Some actually care about weight loss nutrition and proper activity for their patients. Not all doctors are the same
Again GPs are not registered dieticians....and unless they specialize in nutrition should not be giving nutrional advice above geneic stuff like keep saturated fats down. Don't over eat.
You don't know my doctor so why judge his qualifications ?
Don't over eat? Lol. You think it's because of me over eating ? No. You don't know my medical history
Not one sitiuation applies to everyone. Gesh.
I really try to like this community. But it's just judgment and know it all behavior
To the OP. Tigten up your logging and up your activity. Keep at it and you will see results. Good luck ❤
Why did you ask for advice if you are just going to refute everything that is offered? Stop being so offended and take the advice of the forum, there has been some good advice offered here but it seems you've ignored it all.
Its nothing against your doctor or others, they simply do not have the correct training to be offering the kind of advice. That is why we have dietitians.
@JoshuaMcAllister - she didn't ask for advice, she is responding to Op. Doctors do not have specific nutrition training unless they pursue it themselves. None of us know that that particular poster's doctor has or not.0 -
coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »StephanieLMcQuinn wrote: »First off, I'm 5'2 and I weighed a steady 130 lbs for years. Over the winter I slowly gained weight, until I got to 144. In January I started a 1200cal diet with cardio exercise, and gained 2 pounds. Last week, I read that for some RARE women, 1200 may not be enough for weight loss, so I (maybe stupidly), restricted to 800cals. I worked out like crazy every day. I gained another pound. I feel so frustrated I want to cry. In hindsight, I know 800 was probably too little. I should have done 1000. But still! I don't know what else to do. I'm only 21 years old. I'm trying to get to 120 lbs. Please feel free to add me for Support as well.
Assuming exercising 3 times weekly for 30 mins at a light intensity, currently 144 lbs, and a sedentary job, your TDEE is 1643 cals per day.
You're short (No offense meant), but you're fighting an uphill battle. Any error in your logging could completely wipe any deficit you might have.
Buy and use a food scale, to get the most accurate logging possible. I would not recommend logging your exercise in the app, as the estimates for caloric burn rate are way off. Set your daily goal to 1200, log accurately, and see what happens for a bit. I'm guessing overestimation of caloric burn coupled with inaccurate logging is what is doing you in. Very heavy individuals can error greatly in both, and still see results, because their TDEE is so high to being with. You're only 20 lbs over, have a low TDEE, so you need to really knuckle down on the logging aspect.
@coreyreichle Where do you get 1643?
I checked on a site that I find close to actuals and with exercise and age and other stats it calculates it at 2k....
cut at 1610...which makes sense at her age, current weight and exercise...
http://www.iifym.com/tdee-calculator/
Bear in mind, I also made some assumptions, which I laid out, and OP didn't provide (ie, intensity level of exercise, time/frequency of exercise, and daily activity level).
I made assumptions as well on exercise
http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
typically these are quite close.
https://tdeecalculator.net/result.php?s=imperial&g=female&age=21&lbs=144&in=61&act=1.375&f=1
this one is higher than yours as well....hence the reason giving out numbers is not a good idea.
To figure out TDEE actually requires personal data and this formula
Total calories consumed + (lbs lostx 3500)/#days
need to be accurate with consumption using a food scale of course and at least 21 days.
Personally, I don't like to use the sites you supplied, due to lack of granularity in what data you provide. ie, how much exercise and for how long...
But, to each their own, I suppose.
@coreyreichle you missed the most important part of my post...how to calculate your own tdee without assumptions and websites.
and the fact you shouldn't throw numbers at folks without really knowing the facts.
Your simplistic formula fails to take into account the fact that your TDEE changes based current, or sloped weight, though, so it's fairly inaccurate.
I used the facts I knew (She supplied), added some reasonable assumptions to fill out the required data, provided the source (When asked) so she could do it on her own.
To boil is down, your simple formula doesn't work. It would work well if you limited it to a data set of 4 weeks, as weight changes don't happen that quickly.
So, you shouldn't throw around formulas that are untested, because you don't like time tested formula/calculators.
@coreyreichle Interesting..untested eh.
It is a simple formula that is correct but it has been tested numerous times by those in the Eat Train progress group and I trust SideSteel and Sara with the information they provide way over a website where one is making assumptions and throwing arbitrary numbers out to someone that they don't know much about just some info on a forum post.
SMH
FYI if you use rolling data you get your accurate tdee and it's much more accurate than those sites you use, and based on your own assertions TDEE changes (correct) based on weight and activity...so your sites will have to be visited as much as the formula has to be calculated...keep in mind the formula doesn't make assumptions.
You do know TDEE calcs change every time you lose weight, right?
If I were to include data in an average from 1 year ago in my TDEE calcs, it would push me over my TDEE. Sure, your formula works, if your weight is stable over the period, but with someone trying to lose/gain, you're always running late, so to speak (Either over/under).
Your formula makes a critically incorrect assumption: Your TDEE is constant over the time period, which is why I said it would work better if you shortened the period to 4 weeks, rather than 12 months.
Eat Train? Never heard of them. IIFYM? Scooby? Well accepted sources of data in the fitness community, from runners to body builders. I'll take their well tested methods over Eat Train progress groups any day.
I am aware of the fact TDEE changes every time you lose weight as I mentioned in my post.
Eat Train Progress Yah I am not surprised by the fact you aren't in that group otherwise you wouldn't be throwing numbers out at posters without all the knowledge required.
You do what you want...you don't like the formula don't use it...no skin off my nose...
My point really is this...and let me bold it for you okay...
do not throw numbers out to posters who are new to weight loss without all the knowledge you need to give them those numbers....and since you will not have that...don't throw numbers out.
Exits gracefully.
I didn't "throw out numbers". I took given facts by OP, made some reasonable assumption (3 days a week, 30 minutes of light activity, and a sedentary job), and provided a tested calculation based on that.
You don't like my numbers. Fine. I don't care. They are reasonable numbers, under reasonable assumptions. And, far more accurate than a 1 year average of TDEE, for which data doesn't even exist.
Yes you did and no they aren't reasonable.Assuming exercising 3 times weekly for 30 mins at a light intensity, currently 144 lbs, and a sedentary job, your TDEE is 1643 cals per day.
which is not a reasonable TDEE for a women who is 144lbs. who said...I worked out like crazy every day
one of these days you will get it...hope I am here to see it...*smiles*
They are completely reasonable. Most people have no idea what "working out like crazy every day" really means. People assume I do that too, and they know how far, and how long I run for. It's really not much, maybe 300-500 cals worth per day, and that's for 1.5 hours of exercising a day, 5 days per week, and my TDEE is only ~2200 cals as a 5'10" male, weighing 170lbs.
Sure. You believe what you like is reasonable. I provided sourcing. You gave an overly simplistic, and incorrect formula to follow.
There's nothing I need to "get". I've already "got it". I've reached my goal weight already, and am working on maintenance. I arrived here, on schedule, per iifym.com's calculator.
Just a few questions. Do you have a medical issue or are you otherwise sedentary? I ask because for your stats a TDEE of 2200 seems kind of low. I'm 5'3", 115 pounds, and a female and my TDEE is 2200 to 2600. I didn't really think I was all that active.
Just for comparison, I'm 37yrs old, 5ft, 6in, 128.5lbs and my tdee is around 1600, which I've found to be pretty accurate. You're probably more active than you think 0 -
JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »I am also 5 2 and 47 year's old. Being short we really do have a small window so logging for weight loss is extremely important and some kind of activity as this will help offset any inaccurate logging.
I tried this last year it's the first time I had tried to lose weight. I was logging ok but not moving enough. I know for me I have keep my calorie at 1200 - 1300 a day but I walk between 2.5 - 3 miles per day.
I have been back at this for a month and have lost 8.4 pounds. I know now I am doing it the right way for my body.
Please stop using your height as the sole reason for eating 1200 calories. I'm 5'2", 45 y/o, and maintain on 1900-2000 calories a day. Unless you're trapped working out in a Jefferies tube, being short has no bearing.
Not using it as an excuse lol. My total calorie need is not the same as someone who is 6 foot. I opt to believe my doctor.
Rude. Seriously
truth is that a GP doesn't have enough training to suggest a calorie goal.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430660/
Is a study done which indicates that the average time spent by doctors studying nutrition is about 24hours in the duration of their studies and this included specialist.
If you want to know what you should be eating talk to an up to date registered dietician.
my doctor is pretty on the ball.
Not.all doctors are misinformed or uninformed . Some actually care about weight loss nutrition and proper activity for their patients. Not all doctors are the same
Again GPs are not registered dieticians....and unless they specialize in nutrition should not be giving nutrional advice above geneic stuff like keep saturated fats down. Don't over eat.
You don't know my doctor so why judge his qualifications ?
Don't over eat? Lol. You think it's because of me over eating ? No. You don't know my medical history
Not one sitiuation applies to everyone. Gesh.
I really try to like this community. But it's just judgment and know it all behavior
To the OP. Tigten up your logging and up your activity. Keep at it and you will see results. Good luck ❤
Why did you ask for advice if you are just going to refute everything that is offered? Stop being so offended and take the advice of the forum, there has been some good advice offered here but it seems you've ignored it all.
Its nothing against your doctor or others, they simply do not have the correct training to be offering the kind of advice. That is why we have dietitians.
I never asked for advice0 -
shortcdngirl wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »I am also 5 2 and 47 year's old. Being short we really do have a small window so logging for weight loss is extremely important and some kind of activity as this will help offset any inaccurate logging.
I tried this last year it's the first time I had tried to lose weight. I was logging ok but not moving enough. I know for me I have keep my calorie at 1200 - 1300 a day but I walk between 2.5 - 3 miles per day.
I have been back at this for a month and have lost 8.4 pounds. I know now I am doing it the right way for my body.
Please stop using your height as the sole reason for eating 1200 calories. I'm 5'2", 45 y/o, and maintain on 1900-2000 calories a day. Unless you're trapped working out in a Jefferies tube, being short has no bearing.
Not using it as an excuse lol. My total calorie need is not the same as someone who is 6 foot. I opt to believe my doctor.
Rude. Seriously
truth is that a GP doesn't have enough training to suggest a calorie goal.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430660/
Is a study done which indicates that the average time spent by doctors studying nutrition is about 24hours in the duration of their studies and this included specialist.
If you want to know what you should be eating talk to an up to date registered dietician.
my doctor is pretty on the ball.
Not.all doctors are misinformed or uninformed . Some actually care about weight loss nutrition and proper activity for their patients. Not all doctors are the same
Again GPs are not registered dieticians....and unless they specialize in nutrition should not be giving nutrional advice above geneic stuff like keep saturated fats down. Don't over eat.
You don't know my doctor so why judge his qualifications ?
Don't over eat? Lol. You think it's because of me over eating ? No. You don't know my medical history
Not one sitiuation applies to everyone. Gesh.
I really try to like this community. But it's just judgment and know it all behavior
To the OP. Tigten up your logging and up your activity. Keep at it and you will see results. Good luck ❤
Why did you ask for advice if you are just going to refute everything that is offered? Stop being so offended and take the advice of the forum, there has been some good advice offered here but it seems you've ignored it all.
Its nothing against your doctor or others, they simply do not have the correct training to be offering the kind of advice. That is why we have dietitians.
I never asked for advice
Yeah he mixed you up with the OP. I wonder if she's ever going to come back...
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shortcdngirl wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »I am also 5 2 and 47 year's old. Being short we really do have a small window so logging for weight loss is extremely important and some kind of activity as this will help offset any inaccurate logging.
I tried this last year it's the first time I had tried to lose weight. I was logging ok but not moving enough. I know for me I have keep my calorie at 1200 - 1300 a day but I walk between 2.5 - 3 miles per day.
I have been back at this for a month and have lost 8.4 pounds. I know now I am doing it the right way for my body.
Please stop using your height as the sole reason for eating 1200 calories. I'm 5'2", 45 y/o, and maintain on 1900-2000 calories a day. Unless you're trapped working out in a Jefferies tube, being short has no bearing.
Not using it as an excuse lol. My total calorie need is not the same as someone who is 6 foot. I opt to believe my doctor.
Rude. Seriously
truth is that a GP doesn't have enough training to suggest a calorie goal.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430660/
Is a study done which indicates that the average time spent by doctors studying nutrition is about 24hours in the duration of their studies and this included specialist.
If you want to know what you should be eating talk to an up to date registered dietician.
my doctor is pretty on the ball.
Not.all doctors are misinformed or uninformed . Some actually care about weight loss nutrition and proper activity for their patients. Not all doctors are the same
Again GPs are not registered dieticians....and unless they specialize in nutrition should not be giving nutrional advice above geneic stuff like keep saturated fats down. Don't over eat.
You don't know my doctor so why judge his qualifications ?
Don't over eat? Lol. You think it's because of me over eating ? No. You don't know my medical history
Not one sitiuation applies to everyone. Gesh.
I really try to like this community. But it's just judgment and know it all behavior
To the OP. Tigten up your logging and up your activity. Keep at it and you will see results. Good luck ❤
Why did you ask for advice if you are just going to refute everything that is offered? Stop being so offended and take the advice of the forum, there has been some good advice offered here but it seems you've ignored it all.
Its nothing against your doctor or others, they simply do not have the correct training to be offering the kind of advice. That is why we have dietitians.
I never asked for advice
Yeah my apologies, I did think you were the original poster. I misread you're statement and suddenly 2+2 = 5.0 -
JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »I am also 5 2 and 47 year's old. Being short we really do have a small window so logging for weight loss is extremely important and some kind of activity as this will help offset any inaccurate logging.
I tried this last year it's the first time I had tried to lose weight. I was logging ok but not moving enough. I know for me I have keep my calorie at 1200 - 1300 a day but I walk between 2.5 - 3 miles per day.
I have been back at this for a month and have lost 8.4 pounds. I know now I am doing it the right way for my body.
Please stop using your height as the sole reason for eating 1200 calories. I'm 5'2", 45 y/o, and maintain on 1900-2000 calories a day. Unless you're trapped working out in a Jefferies tube, being short has no bearing.
Not using it as an excuse lol. My total calorie need is not the same as someone who is 6 foot. I opt to believe my doctor.
Rude. Seriously
truth is that a GP doesn't have enough training to suggest a calorie goal.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430660/
Is a study done which indicates that the average time spent by doctors studying nutrition is about 24hours in the duration of their studies and this included specialist.
If you want to know what you should be eating talk to an up to date registered dietician.
my doctor is pretty on the ball.
Not.all doctors are misinformed or uninformed . Some actually care about weight loss nutrition and proper activity for their patients. Not all doctors are the same
Again GPs are not registered dieticians....and unless they specialize in nutrition should not be giving nutrional advice above geneic stuff like keep saturated fats down. Don't over eat.
You don't know my doctor so why judge his qualifications ?
Don't over eat? Lol. You think it's because of me over eating ? No. You don't know my medical history
Not one sitiuation applies to everyone. Gesh.
I really try to like this community. But it's just judgment and know it all behavior
To the OP. Tigten up your logging and up your activity. Keep at it and you will see results. Good luck ❤
Why did you ask for advice if you are just going to refute everything that is offered? Stop being so offended and take the advice of the forum, there has been some good advice offered here but it seems you've ignored it all.
Its nothing against your doctor or others, they simply do not have the correct training to be offering the kind of advice. That is why we have dietitians.
I never asked for advice
Yeah my apologies, I did think you were the original poster. I misread you're statement and suddenly 2+2 = 5.
That's fine. This all started because I said those who are shorter have a smaller window for error in calorie counting and someone said I was making an excuse for my height and that basically my doctor knows nothing. So yeah. I was responding to the original poster0 -
3dogsrunning wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »I am also 5 2 and 47 year's old. Being short we really do have a small window so logging for weight loss is extremely important and some kind of activity as this will help offset any inaccurate logging.
I tried this last year it's the first time I had tried to lose weight. I was logging ok but not moving enough. I know for me I have keep my calorie at 1200 - 1300 a day but I walk between 2.5 - 3 miles per day.
I have been back at this for a month and have lost 8.4 pounds. I know now I am doing it the right way for my body.
Please stop using your height as the sole reason for eating 1200 calories. I'm 5'2", 45 y/o, and maintain on 1900-2000 calories a day. Unless you're trapped working out in a Jefferies tube, being short has no bearing.
Not using it as an excuse lol. My total calorie need is not the same as someone who is 6 foot. I opt to believe my doctor.
Rude. Seriously
truth is that a GP doesn't have enough training to suggest a calorie goal.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430660/
Is a study done which indicates that the average time spent by doctors studying nutrition is about 24hours in the duration of their studies and this included specialist.
If you want to know what you should be eating talk to an up to date registered dietician.
my doctor is pretty on the ball.
Not.all doctors are misinformed or uninformed . Some actually care about weight loss nutrition and proper activity for their patients. Not all doctors are the same
Again GPs are not registered dieticians....and unless they specialize in nutrition should not be giving nutrional advice above geneic stuff like keep saturated fats down. Don't over eat.
You don't know my doctor so why judge his qualifications ?
Don't over eat? Lol. You think it's because of me over eating ? No. You don't know my medical history
Not one sitiuation applies to everyone. Gesh.
I really try to like this community. But it's just judgment and know it all behavior
To the OP. Tigten up your logging and up your activity. Keep at it and you will see results. Good luck ❤
Why did you ask for advice if you are just going to refute everything that is offered? Stop being so offended and take the advice of the forum, there has been some good advice offered here but it seems you've ignored it all.
Its nothing against your doctor or others, they simply do not have the correct training to be offering the kind of advice. That is why we have dietitians.
@JoshuaMcAllister - she didn't ask for advice, she is responding to Op. Doctors do not have specific nutrition training unless they pursue it themselves. None of us know that that particular poster's doctor has or not.
Yeah I'm not disputing that they cant pursue it in their spare time but to blindly take advice from someone on nutrition simply because they are a doctor is misguided. I certainly wouldn't unless they provide some evidence that they have studied it.
And believe me if doctors around the world are as overworked as the UKs NHS I sincerely doubt they have enough free time to study. (just a little joke before I get hounded for this)0 -
JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »3dogsrunning wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »I am also 5 2 and 47 year's old. Being short we really do have a small window so logging for weight loss is extremely important and some kind of activity as this will help offset any inaccurate logging.
I tried this last year it's the first time I had tried to lose weight. I was logging ok but not moving enough. I know for me I have keep my calorie at 1200 - 1300 a day but I walk between 2.5 - 3 miles per day.
I have been back at this for a month and have lost 8.4 pounds. I know now I am doing it the right way for my body.
Please stop using your height as the sole reason for eating 1200 calories. I'm 5'2", 45 y/o, and maintain on 1900-2000 calories a day. Unless you're trapped working out in a Jefferies tube, being short has no bearing.
Not using it as an excuse lol. My total calorie need is not the same as someone who is 6 foot. I opt to believe my doctor.
Rude. Seriously
truth is that a GP doesn't have enough training to suggest a calorie goal.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430660/
Is a study done which indicates that the average time spent by doctors studying nutrition is about 24hours in the duration of their studies and this included specialist.
If you want to know what you should be eating talk to an up to date registered dietician.
my doctor is pretty on the ball.
Not.all doctors are misinformed or uninformed . Some actually care about weight loss nutrition and proper activity for their patients. Not all doctors are the same
Again GPs are not registered dieticians....and unless they specialize in nutrition should not be giving nutrional advice above geneic stuff like keep saturated fats down. Don't over eat.
You don't know my doctor so why judge his qualifications ?
Don't over eat? Lol. You think it's because of me over eating ? No. You don't know my medical history
Not one sitiuation applies to everyone. Gesh.
I really try to like this community. But it's just judgment and know it all behavior
To the OP. Tigten up your logging and up your activity. Keep at it and you will see results. Good luck ❤
Why did you ask for advice if you are just going to refute everything that is offered? Stop being so offended and take the advice of the forum, there has been some good advice offered here but it seems you've ignored it all.
Its nothing against your doctor or others, they simply do not have the correct training to be offering the kind of advice. That is why we have dietitians.
@JoshuaMcAllister - she didn't ask for advice, she is responding to Op. Doctors do not have specific nutrition training unless they pursue it themselves. None of us know that that particular poster's doctor has or not.
Yeah I'm not disputing that they cant pursue it in their spare time but to blindly take advice from someone on nutrition simply because they are a doctor is misguided. I certainly wouldn't unless they provide some evidence that they have studied it.
And believe me if doctors around the world are as overworked as the UKs NHS I sincerely doubt they have enough free time to study. (just a little joke before I get hounded for this)
No one on this board suggested they were a doctor. No one even suggested blindly taking advice. I certainly don't support that. A poster relayed the information provided to her by her doctor, one she described as "on the ball" and people outright dismissed the information based on the fact that doctors do not receive a lot of nutrition training.
First of all, that poster and I are in one country, you in another. The other person dimissing that poster's doctor is in yet another.
My only point is that we cannot outright dismiss the advice of a doctor based on the assumption that doctors get little nutritional training. There are any number of factors that can go towards (or against) the validity of a GP's nutritional advice.
As I said earlier, my own doctor keeps up to date on some specific information that other GPs aren't well versed on. And she is quite busy.0 -
JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »3dogsrunning wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »I am also 5 2 and 47 year's old. Being short we really do have a small window so logging for weight loss is extremely important and some kind of activity as this will help offset any inaccurate logging.
I tried this last year it's the first time I had tried to lose weight. I was logging ok but not moving enough. I know for me I have keep my calorie at 1200 - 1300 a day but I walk between 2.5 - 3 miles per day.
I have been back at this for a month and have lost 8.4 pounds. I know now I am doing it the right way for my body.
Please stop using your height as the sole reason for eating 1200 calories. I'm 5'2", 45 y/o, and maintain on 1900-2000 calories a day. Unless you're trapped working out in a url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferies_tube"]Jefferies tube[/url], being short has no bearing.
Not using it as an excuse lol. My total calorie need is not the same as someone who is 6 foot. I opt to believe my doctor.
Rude. Seriously
truth is that a GP doesn't have enough training to suggest a calorie goal.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430660/
Is a study done which indicates that the average time spent by doctors studying nutrition is about 24hours in the duration of their studies and this included specialist.
If you want to know what you should be eating talk to an up to date registered dietician.
my doctor is pretty on the ball.
Not.all doctors are misinformed or uninformed . Some actually care about weight loss nutrition and proper activity for their patients. Not all doctors are the same
Again GPs are not registered dieticians....and unless they specialize in nutrition should not be giving nutrional advice above geneic stuff like keep saturated fats down. Don't over eat.
You don't know my doctor so why judge his qualifications ?
Don't over eat? Lol. You think it's because of me over eating ? No. You don't know my medical history
Not one sitiuation applies to everyone. Gesh.
I really try to like this community. But it's just judgment and know it all behavior
To the OP. Tigten up your logging and up your activity. Keep at it and you will see results. Good luck ❤
Why did you ask for advice if you are just going to refute everything that is offered? Stop being so offended and take the advice of the forum, there has been some good advice offered here but it seems you've ignored it all.
Its nothing against your doctor or others, they simply do not have the correct training to be offering the kind of advice. That is why we have dietitians.
@JoshuaMcAllister - she didn't ask for advice, she is responding to Op. Doctors do not have specific nutrition training unless they pursue it themselves. None of us know that that particular poster's doctor has or not.
Yeah I'm not disputing that they cant pursue it in their spare time but to blindly take advice from someone on nutrition simply because they are a doctor is misguided. I certainly wouldn't unless they provide some evidence that they have studied it.
And believe me if doctors around the world are as overworked as the UKs NHS I sincerely doubt they have enough free time to study. (just a little joke before I get hounded for this)
I don't blindly take advice. I question everything and there are some doctors out there who are very health and fitness minded. My mom's doctor is a tri athtlete I believe and in my 20's I was a body builder. I trust my own knowledge and I do trust my doctor.0 -
shortcdngirl wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »3dogsrunning wrote: »JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »shortcdngirl wrote: »I am also 5 2 and 47 year's old. Being short we really do have a small window so logging for weight loss is extremely important and some kind of activity as this will help offset any inaccurate logging.
I tried this last year it's the first time I had tried to lose weight. I was logging ok but not moving enough. I know for me I have keep my calorie at 1200 - 1300 a day but I walk between 2.5 - 3 miles per day.
I have been back at this for a month and have lost 8.4 pounds. I know now I am doing it the right way for my body.
Please stop using your height as the sole reason for eating 1200 calories. I'm 5'2", 45 y/o, and maintain on 1900-2000 calories a day. Unless you're trapped working out in a url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferies_tube"]Jefferies tube[/url], being short has no bearing.
Not using it as an excuse lol. My total calorie need is not the same as someone who is 6 foot. I opt to believe my doctor.
Rude. Seriously
truth is that a GP doesn't have enough training to suggest a calorie goal.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430660/
Is a study done which indicates that the average time spent by doctors studying nutrition is about 24hours in the duration of their studies and this included specialist.
If you want to know what you should be eating talk to an up to date registered dietician.
my doctor is pretty on the ball.
Not.all doctors are misinformed or uninformed . Some actually care about weight loss nutrition and proper activity for their patients. Not all doctors are the same
Again GPs are not registered dieticians....and unless they specialize in nutrition should not be giving nutrional advice above geneic stuff like keep saturated fats down. Don't over eat.
You don't know my doctor so why judge his qualifications ?
Don't over eat? Lol. You think it's because of me over eating ? No. You don't know my medical history
Not one sitiuation applies to everyone. Gesh.
I really try to like this community. But it's just judgment and know it all behavior
To the OP. Tigten up your logging and up your activity. Keep at it and you will see results. Good luck ❤
Why did you ask for advice if you are just going to refute everything that is offered? Stop being so offended and take the advice of the forum, there has been some good advice offered here but it seems you've ignored it all.
Its nothing against your doctor or others, they simply do not have the correct training to be offering the kind of advice. That is why we have dietitians.
@JoshuaMcAllister - she didn't ask for advice, she is responding to Op. Doctors do not have specific nutrition training unless they pursue it themselves. None of us know that that particular poster's doctor has or not.
Yeah I'm not disputing that they cant pursue it in their spare time but to blindly take advice from someone on nutrition simply because they are a doctor is misguided. I certainly wouldn't unless they provide some evidence that they have studied it.
And believe me if doctors around the world are as overworked as the UKs NHS I sincerely doubt they have enough free time to study. (just a little joke before I get hounded for this)
I don't blindly take advice. I question everything and there are some doctors out there who are very health and fitness minded. My mom's doctor is a tri athtlete I believe and in my 20's I was a body builder. I trust my own knowledge and I do trust my doctor.
At no point in my statement did I say that you directly took advice blindly from a doctor, I said it was misguided to do so. Simply because they are a doctor does not qualify them, I am not denying there are doctors out there with a knowledge of nutrition, you have obviously asked the right questions and made inquiries, sadly not everyone does the same.0
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