May 2016 Running Challenge

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  • _nikkiwolf_
    _nikkiwolf_ Posts: 1,380 Member
    edited May 2016
    Uff, *somebody* thought it was a good idea to go for a run last night instead of doing strength training. Which meant the YAYOG week 1 day 4 workout had to be done tonight, since I didn't want don't to fall too far behind. Too many side lunges! In 24 hours from now I'll probably be really sore - so I should head out for my long run tomorrow morning as soon as possible, before the DOMS kicks in in earnest.
    On the other hand, if I leave the house too early, I'm going to miss the parcel devivery guy, who should show up at my door at some point tomorrow. It's remotely possible there was a 15% off voucher in the mail a few days ago, so I might just have forgotten my "no more running shoes"-vow and ordered a pair of Saucony Xodus 3 trail shoes. If I'm not home when the delivery van drives up, those poor darlings will have to spend the long weekend (Monday = holiday here) in a dark box at the post office until I can pick them up on Tuesday after work.
    Ah, the hard decisions in the life of a runner...
  • vandinem
    vandinem Posts: 550 Member
    Date      Miles      MTD
    ------    -----    -----
    May 03      4.2T     4.2  
    May 04      4.2T     8.4 
    May 06      5.1     13.5 
    May 07      8.2     21.7 
    May 08      5.6     27.3 
    May 09      4.2     31.5 
    May 11      6.5     38.0 
    May 13      5.0     43.0 
    

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    Tomorrow I switch from my Saucony Omni's to a brand new pair of Brooks Ghost shoes. I love Saucony shoes but I seem to tear through the heels in a big hurry.

    Anybody here a Strava Premium member, and if so, what are the advantages of going premium?
  • _nikkiwolf_
    _nikkiwolf_ Posts: 1,380 Member
    @5BeautifulDays Great to hear your surgery went well, and that you can go for long walks already so quickly afterwards. That's good news, I'm happy for you :)

    @vandinem Funny that you ask now, I just looked at Strava Premium about half an hour ago, because I know that some people here use it (and Strava always dumps those "Go Premium"-messages in like five different places all over the screen).
    From what I read, the main features are that you can set goals for weekly running or time on segments and such, and you get access to training plans for various differences. Depending on which device you use, people can follow your run live online while you are running. You get a "trophy case" where the badges from all Strava challenges you completed are displayed, and there are some more analysis features, like a "suffer score" to give you points for spending long times in high HR zones (or something like that? not sure about this one...)
    60 CHF/year (or presumbably a similar amount in USD) is more than I'm willing to pay for that. But maybe there are some features that I am missing, I'm sure someone else will be able to say more on this.
  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
    May Running Totals (miles)
    5/1 – 3.11 easy
    5/2 – rest day
    5/3 – extra rest day
    5/4 – 3.51 almost easy
    5/5 – 6.34 easy
    5/6 – planned rest day
    5/7 – 11.02 with pace group
    5/8 – extra rest day
    5/9 – scheduled rest day
    5/10 – extra rest day
    5/11 – no running
    5/12 – no running
    5/13 – PT appointment, no running
    5/14 – no running
    5/15 - no running, DNS for 10K

    May total to date – 23.98

    Nominal Challenge Goal – 150 miles
    Real Goals: Recover from Boston and Flower City. Build Base. Start training program for Rochester Marathon.

    Today's notes – My goals for May are pretty much toast, but I wanted to write this note so I won't be a disappearing act here. Noticed a pattern where I'd run, then couldn't run the next day. Monday I called the PT for an appointment, which was today. I haven't run any distance since the 11 miles that felt good last Saturday and felt awful on Sunday.

    Long story short, I have an unstable right hip. The tensor fascia latta needs to be strengthened, as well as a bunch of miscellaneous stabilizing muscles. I have some new exercises and stretches, plus one old familiar one from 2013 PT. I didn't get a time estimate for how long till I can run without messing myself up by compensating for the weak TFL.

    This makes sense. As I suspected, something that wasn't even hurting was causing the issues. As I think back to twinges I had in November and December, I think I got the same issue after running Good Life Halfsy on 11/1/2015. Like Boston, Good Life is net downhill; but it doesn't drop as much and it's only a half, so the recovery was easier. And I may have had weakness in the same area after Buffalo 2015, in hindsight. Whatever.

    The task now is to follow directions and get better, so I can get back to running regularly. Not running 6 days in a row is no fun, but it beats being in a boot for 3 weeks (done that!), and it beats not running for 3 months in a row (done that, too.)

    Lilac Run 10K is Sunday. It would be a miracle if I'm enough better to run it without messing myself up pretty bad, so I'll go do volunteer stuff at 6:30 AM. I hope I'm able to come back in time for the Medved 5K to Cure ALS, and it will really drive me nuts if I have sit out Shoreline. The aggressive training cycle for the Rochester Marathon would have started on May 29; that doesn't seem so likely now. Tentative plan is to build a base for Rochester, enjoy the scenery, and just accept that it will be my slowest marathon to date. If I run it slow enough, maybe I'll be able to run up the Brewer Street hill at mile 24. (I was barely able to run up Brewer Street at mile 11 of the half last year. A lot of people walked.)

    I don't want to think about this lasting so long that I can't run Rochester.

    2016 races:
    January 1, 2016 Resolution Run 7.5 mile (Mendon, NY) finished in 53:58
    January 9, 2016 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) finished in 1:30:59
    March 12, 2016 Johnny's Runnin' of the Green 5 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 32:32
    March 26, 2016 Spring Forward Distance Run 15K (Mendon, NY) finished in 1:05:24
    April 18, 2016 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:23:01
    April 24, 2016 Flower City Challenge Half Marathon (Rochester, NY) finished in 1:36:50, targeting MP
    May 15, 2016 Highland Hospital Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY) DNS - injury
    June 19, 2016 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY)
    July 16, 2016 Shoreline Half Marathon (Hilton, NY)
    September 18, 2016 Rochester Marathon (Rochester, NY)

  • 9voice9
    9voice9 Posts: 693 Member
    Background for my question: My doctor (and me, TBH) is unhappy with the fact that my weight has been creeping up the last few visits.

    Quick sidenote: in late '06, I'd gotten up to 260#, and had gotten disgusted with myself, so I started changing my eating and doing the treadmill. Ran my first 5K in 03/2008. Since then, I've gotten down to (at the lowest) 193 last year, but now I'm hovering around 195. I'd like to get down to 175 (which puts me on the high end of a "normal" BMI for my height).

    I'm trying to be more intentional with eating (and cutting out snacks!), and keeping up with the 35-40 miles per week running. The question is this: for those here who've lost weight while or because of running, or otherwise, did you do a regular "cheat" or no-track day? Did you do it weekly, or less often? How would I best coordinate that with my running: put it on my long-run day, since I know I'll have a bonus of calories burnt, to offset the extra calories I'm likely to eat, or put it on Sunday (which happens to be my rest day) because I tend to only eat 2 meals that day anyway?
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    @9voice9 I never have done a no tracking day. But I do go over my calorie budget at least weekly. My key has been to keep a net deficit and then track when I do go over to ensure I keep at a deficit. I've used TDEE more for tracking weight than MFP, just because it's easier to figure out the calories I have stored up, and the TDEE calculator I use has calorie amounts for 10%, 15% and 20% deficits, and I go by weekly average.

    I tend to do my over eating day on a non run day, because that's when the hunger always seems to hit me.
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    @9voice9 I lost over 80 lbs in the past 12 months.

    I didn't ever have any cheat days. I just exercised every day which earned me lots more calories to eat.

    I walked a lot as well as running. I earned about 1,000 extra calories every day through exercise, and ate back around 75% of them, as calculated by Apple Health or Fitbit Charge HR.

    But the MFP app lets you see your weekly calories, and you can go by those if you find yourself going over one day a week.
  • HonuNui
    HonuNui Posts: 1,464 Member
    May Goal: Run for....1 bourbon, 1 scootch, 1 beer (with apologies to George Thorogood)

    5/1 deep mucking of the chicken coop and environs
    5/2 4.0
    5/3 life day
    5/4 7.54
    5/5 snorkel 3.5hours
    5/6 3.21
    5/7 4.05
    5/8 rest
    5/9 4.05
    5/10 meh
    5/11 4.54
    5/12 3.26
    5/13 6.05

    Total 36.70

    @5BeautifulDays : glad your surgery went well!

    Upcoming races:
    6/26 SHEPower Virtual 1/2 marathon
    11/13 Las Vegas Rock n Roll 1/2 marathon

    Ticker is my goal for 2016 and accumulation to date:
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  • greenolivetree
    greenolivetree Posts: 1,282 Member
    @MobyCarp Sorry you're on the DL :( Take care and you'll be back running sooner than later!

    @9voice9 In my opinion, the less you have to lose, the more strict you have to be and running on a deficit is hard. When I lost 70lbs in a year I offset high/cheat days with super low days. I wasn't running yet though. I'd suggest only highly nutritious and filling food. I'm currently trying to get off 15lbs I've gained so I'm with you on trying to figure out how to eat at a deficit and not have my running suffer.
  • Ohhim
    Ohhim Posts: 1,142 Member
    edited May 2016
    Lots of catching up to do. Just got in 2 miles before lifting yesterday (as it was a rest/recovery day) and did 4.5 tonight on the treadmill while watching the end of the Lightning/Penguins game. Not enjoying the warm weather, but adjusting to treadmill life as it'll be the norm this summer when I'm in Florida. Also heard from my main northern running buddy that he's in a boot for 2 weeks which'll likely result in some alternative running partners. On the plus side, I'm getting much more biking exercise this week (w. 120 miles the last 4 days).

    Flying back up north Monday, and snagged an extra ticket for the Penguins/Lightning game that night, so looking forward to cheering on my bolts in enemy territory.

    5/1 - 26.2 miles (Pittsburgh Marathon - 3:08:25, ran as bib #666 in full devil costume, got a BQ)
    5/5 - 6 miles
    5/9 - 15 miles
    5/10 - 6 miles
    5/11 - 3 miles
    5/12 - 2 miles
    5/13 - 4.5 miles

    Total: 62.5 miles
    Goal: 180 miles
    Remaining: 117.5 miles

    Next Races:
    Ironman 70.3 Augusta - September
    Chicago Marathon - October
    Ironman Florida - November

    @mobycarp - Good luck with the recovery. You'd be surprised at the number of race report stories I've read from friends/others that start with "early on in training, I was injuried and had to take X days/weeks off" and end with "I totally crushed my PR". I'm sure you've seen the table in the Jack Daniels books about rest time and impact to training as well, as 1-2 weeks won't do much. Given the shape you were in at Boston, I'm sure with better weather you'd be at least 10-20 minutes under the time, and you'll see some impressive results the next time you race at 100%.
  • AdrianChr92
    AdrianChr92 Posts: 567 Member
    edited May 2016
    @9voice9

    I lost about 70 lbs so far since august. I try to eat as healthy as I can but I still cheat with meals but I think I had about 5 days where I went over calories. Basically if I eat bad stuff I log it and try to stay under maintainance calories. Which for me are around 2500. 3000 with exercise. It's really easy to undo a week with one day if you maintain a small deficit if you fall of the band wagon and start binging with a thousand calories extra. It's also really hard to stay under with bad food since it doesn't fill you up near enough as good food. I still eat pizza and stuff like that but I make my own pizza now. Learned how to cook a lot of stuff and I gave up on processed meats almost completely.

    I did quit tracking in December though. I lost like 1 lbs I think in that month just calculating mentally so at least I know I won't be getting back up if I mind what I put in my mouth. Turns out after a lot of time tracking you kinda know what's what. But tracking makes it easier for me. No more worries.
  • juliet3455
    juliet3455 Posts: 3,015 Member
    @9voice9 I started out at 305, down to 220 still need to drop 20-30. I don't do cheat days. Yes I will end up at the Pub on occasion and have beer/wings ( usually after a race ) but I log every thing ( guestimate on some things ). As soon as I allow cheat days/no logging days My calorie intake goes up and the lbs gone back on. At the dreaded plateau where you have to work a lot harder to lose the last pounds.

    I do about 140 km a month = 35km /week about half of what you do.
  • beautifulwarrior18
    beautifulwarrior18 Posts: 914 Member

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    May 3 1 mile wod
    May 7 1 mile wod


    Is there anyway to post this thing in my profile?


    May 11 1.75 miles (c25k w1d1)
    May 12 0.25 miles
    May 13 1.81 miles (c25k w1d2)


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  • bibiverm
    bibiverm Posts: 8 Member

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  • greenolivetree
    greenolivetree Posts: 1,282 Member
    My knee hurts! Waaaaah! I was just walking the dog yesterday and suddenly my knee hurt and hasn't stopped. Not the same pain as previously. No clue what I did but 5 miles today is out of the question. Maybe tomorrow. I'm icing it since yesterday but so far it doesn't help.
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    5/1-4.12 miles
    5/2- Rest
    5/3- 5.01 miles
    5/4- 3.12 miles
    5/5- 5.1
    5/6- rest
    5/7- 8.44
    4/8-3.11
    4/9-REST much needed REST
    4/10- 5.1
    4/11-4.1
    5/12- 5.11
    5/13- Rest
    5/14- 10.02

    Totals: 53.62/100

    Notes on today's run: Today's assignment was to run a 90-105 minute Long Run. Nominal goal was to run 9-10 miles, since that would fall within the time limit using my LR range of 10:31-11:43. Here's how the run actually looked:

    Mile 1: Mostly flat at 10:28...hhhmmm, this feels good, but it can't last, right?
    Mile 2: Net downhill at 10:21....Ok, that felt like a fluke, being downhill..
    Mile 3: easy slight up hill at 10:22....Um, OK, that still felt easy, but this won't last
    Mile4: Still a gradual uphill, and at 10:21.....Hm, maybe I can keep this pace, OK, goal is to maintain between 10:2- and 10:30 for as long as I can
    Mile 5: Rolling with a net downhill elevation at 10:23, still not too bad. Ate a Honeystinger Strawberry kiwi gel when I finished 5, not so much because I felt I needed it, but because on these longer runs, I'm experimenting with food.
    Mile 6: Rolling with a very slight net uphill at 10:22. Hey, I'm starting to feel a little tired
    Mile 7: Biggest Net uphill split but at 10:24....I don't feel fresh, but that wasn't bad! Maybe that Gel is kicking in!
    Mile 8 Net downhill, took it a little easy on myself at 10:20.
    Mile 9: Second slowest mile of the run at 10:26, but was throttling back a little for the hill that starts mile 10.
    Mile 10: OK, This hill sucks, but I'm gonna put the throttle to the firewall as much as I can. Split time: 9:50.

    Just a note, There was a nice NNW wind at 17-11 MPH with gusts up to 20, so I caught a nice headwind or crosswind most of the run, the moments where it was more of a tail wind were great.

    All in all, great run, new distance PR and, according to Strava, I ran my second best 10K time somewhere in there.
  • louubelle16
    louubelle16 Posts: 579 Member
    Just a quick update, I'll catch up on posts tomorrow. Hope you all have a happy weekend of running :)

    2nd May - 3.06 miles
    3-4th May - poorlysick
    5th May - 2.40 miles
    8th May - 13.1 miles Hackney Half 2:05:24
    12th May - 3.27 miles
    14th May - 3.11 miles parkrun

    MTD - 24.94/70 miles

    Upcoming races:
    2nd Oct - Tonbridge Half Marathon
    30th Oct - River Thames Half Marathon
    9th April 2017 - Brighton Marathon
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    @louubelle16 glad to see you got your groove back!
  • vandinem
    vandinem Posts: 550 Member
    @9voice9

    Wow ... that's impressive weight loss. You, @AdrianChr92, @juliet3455 and others have accomplished so much and are holding on to those accomplishments. Way to go!

    I've dropped the 25 pounds I needed to since starting the MFP challenges last July, but have to say the running was just part of it (an important part, helping me to establish a consistent calorie deficit). The other thing was eating better/smarter. I started doing a sort-of paleo thing, and gravitated more to the Wild Diet that Abel James and others blog about. That helped a lot. I then saw the "Fed Up" documentary, which motivated me to drop WAY down the amount of refined sugar and carbs I allow into my food choices. In both cases, going sort-of paleo and then dropping sugar, my weight shifted down to a new plateau.

    When I was younger, I was a believer in the "Run enough and you'll burn anything, even Big Macs" school, but now am convinced that a mix of exercise and smart eating is the way to go.

    Now if I could just drop the beer and bourbon, I'd be all set! :#
  • AdrianChr92
    AdrianChr92 Posts: 567 Member
    @vandinem yea I gotta say that sugars, not the ones you get from fruit but still they count as sugars, I am talking about those things like high fructose corn syrup. Those are probably worse that drugs for out society. I also believe you can eat everything as long as you don't abuse it. Like a big Mac once every 2 weeks won't undo your good eating days. But a healthy meal once every 2 weeks won't do much if you eat bad all the time. Consistency is key. If you eat good you can get away with something evil every now and then
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited May 2016
    @vandinem Oh didn't "Fed up" just outrage you!?

    Kudos on the weight loss everyone! @AdrianChr92 @juliet3455 and @Orphia ! @WhatMeRunning is in there too. I'm sure there are others!

    @greenolivetree aw good luck with that knee. Maybe it's hips? Or ITB?

    @MobyCarp sorry about the tfl. Pro runner Lauren Fleshman says injury is part of training. I agree with @Ohhim , your sure to come out stronger and faster on the other side.


    I may jinks it- I'm still losing weight on rest, or my scale is a prankster. 4 pounds in the 3 weeks I've been on my *kitten*. I'll admit I plan on a walk/try out the foot in stiffer trainers while my pup gets groomed today. Which I found out has heart worms :( . I wanted to put her down, DH says no. I haven't heard of any surviving treatment. But fingers crossed. Before we moved, we had chickens and the food attracted mice, the mice had fleas and we couldn't keep up on it. But then HW's are mosquito borne aren't they? I feel bad. She's such a sweet little thing. Maybe we caught it early enough.
  • Diantha21
    Diantha21 Posts: 112 Member
    another 7.5 km again today after a week of illness and long hours...


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  • ddmom0811
    ddmom0811 Posts: 1,881 Member
    @skippygirlsmom - To me, many of your early runs looks like a person sitting down--and the later ones, a person sitting down with a cat on his head...

    LOL - yes it does.
  • ddmom0811
    ddmom0811 Posts: 1,881 Member
    Dying to hear how all the racers did today! Go MFPRC runners!

    5/1 - 35 mile cycling
    5/2 - 5 miles
    5/3 - 3.5 miles
    5/4 - 5 miles - intervals, sort of.
    5/5 - 25 miles cycling in a brutal wind
    5/6 - 5 miles + strength training
    5/7 - 34 miles cycling
    5/8 - 36 miles cycling
    5/9 - 5 miles + strength training
    5/10 - 5 miles - fartleks
    5/11 - 25 miles cycling
    5/12 - 5 miles
    5/13 - 4 miles
    5/14 - 34 miles cycling


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  • vandinem
    vandinem Posts: 550 Member
    Date      Miles      MTD
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    May 03      4.2T     4.2  
    May 04      4.2T     8.4 
    May 06      5.1     13.5 
    May 07      8.2     21.7 
    May 08      5.6     27.3 
    May 09      4.2     31.5 
    May 11      6.5     38.0 
    May 13      5.0     43.0
    May 14     12.6     55.6
    

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    Long Slow Run today, and I should have headed out earlier ... the heat caught up with me and I had to walk a few times.
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    @Elise4270 losing weight on rest? Keep that going!
    @Diantha21 Good running!
    @ddmom0811 nice Ride!
    @4leighbee Nice Run! Pretty surroundings!
    @vandinem Great run! Running in the heat sucks! Walking is fine in my book, if it helps get through the run/workout, go for it!
    @WhatMeRunning I predict a sub 2:15:00 HM for you in the near future, then more and better things to come! Keep up the good work!
  • Rabid_Hamster
    Rabid_Hamster Posts: 338 Member
    5/1 - rest
    5/2 - 4m
    5/3 - 5m
    5/4 - 6m
    5/5 - rest
    5/6 - 5m
    5/7 - 10m :D
    5/8 - rest
    5/9 - 3.8m
    5/10 - 3.5m
    5/11 - 7m
    5/12 - rest
    5/13 - 3m

    5/14 - 6.2m


    Distance to date: 53.5m
    Goal: 126m (42.4% complete)


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  • vandinem
    vandinem Posts: 550 Member
    @MNLittleFinn Thanks! Yeah, I'm OK with a little walking as needed. Although on my second walking break, the team coach for the one marathon I've run drove by, rolled down her window, and yelled, "Why the hell aren't you RUNNING?!" Timing is everything.

    @WhatMeRunning Nice work on the PR! Just love those runs when it all comes together.
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