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nutmegoreo wrote: »domgibson88 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »mskessler89 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »mskessler89 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »
Please tell me those are vodka-soaked Peeps that will later be lit on fire.
You light them on fire!
The only reason Peeps exist is to be tortured. I get a pack every Easter to microwave, shine 1650W of light on until they smoke, set ablaze... I haven't mutilated them making Peep sushi yet, that should be next year. Pretty sure this ain't on anyone's low-carb diet:
You sound violent. I like you.cerise_noir wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »mskessler89 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »
Please tell me those are vodka-soaked Peeps that will later be lit on fire.
You light them on fire!
Those peeps would so end up in my mouth.
So @queenliz99 is bringing the ice cream, @WinoGelato is bringing the wine, I'm making the spaghetti supper, and you can bring the vodka peeps. I'm thinking about inviting @Noel_57 and his new GF Jessica rabbit, since he's interested in having a less intellectual conversation.
Anyone else?
Hey I started this amazing beast of a thread can I come??lol
I suspect it won't be low carb though
F###k it I'll bring the Big Macs3 -
domgibson88 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »domgibson88 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »mskessler89 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »mskessler89 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »
Please tell me those are vodka-soaked Peeps that will later be lit on fire.
You light them on fire!
The only reason Peeps exist is to be tortured. I get a pack every Easter to microwave, shine 1650W of light on until they smoke, set ablaze... I haven't mutilated them making Peep sushi yet, that should be next year. Pretty sure this ain't on anyone's low-carb diet:
You sound violent. I like you.cerise_noir wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »mskessler89 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »
Please tell me those are vodka-soaked Peeps that will later be lit on fire.
You light them on fire!
Those peeps would so end up in my mouth.
So @queenliz99 is bringing the ice cream, @WinoGelato is bringing the wine, I'm making the spaghetti supper, and you can bring the vodka peeps. I'm thinking about inviting @Noel_57 and his new GF Jessica rabbit, since he's interested in having a less intellectual conversation.
Anyone else?
Hey I started this amazing beast of a thread can I come??lol
I suspect it won't be low carb though
F###c it I'll bring the Big Macs
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nutmegoreo wrote: »domgibson88 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »domgibson88 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »mskessler89 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »mskessler89 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »
Please tell me those are vodka-soaked Peeps that will later be lit on fire.
You light them on fire!
The only reason Peeps exist is to be tortured. I get a pack every Easter to microwave, shine 1650W of light on until they smoke, set ablaze... I haven't mutilated them making Peep sushi yet, that should be next year. Pretty sure this ain't on anyone's low-carb diet:
You sound violent. I like you.cerise_noir wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »mskessler89 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »
Please tell me those are vodka-soaked Peeps that will later be lit on fire.
You light them on fire!
Those peeps would so end up in my mouth.
So @queenliz99 is bringing the ice cream, @WinoGelato is bringing the wine, I'm making the spaghetti supper, and you can bring the vodka peeps. I'm thinking about inviting @Noel_57 and his new GF Jessica rabbit, since he's interested in having a less intellectual conversation.
Anyone else?
Hey I started this amazing beast of a thread can I come??lol
I suspect it won't be low carb though
F###c it I'll bring the Big Macs
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That's supposed to be a K not a C lol1 -
queenliz99 wrote: »Butter on pasta, now we're talking!
Make it olive oil with chili and garlic and we're talking.2 -
Danny_Boy13 wrote: »
Here is my before and after pics on my recent Low Carb eating. I will say that this is the ONLY thing that I changed was taking away some carbs and adding in some proteins. I also started drinking 3-4 liters of water a day. This was over a 12 week span. I gained 3lbs of LMM but also lost 3% BF. All in all I still weigh the same, almost identical, I just replaced fat with muscle. Food reacts differently with different people. As stated for some to comment in the manner of "No, it shouldn't matter" may true for some but for me it does not seem to hold true.
Doesn't really prove anything. You could very well have had the same results changing nothing. I expect drinking more water and decreasing crabs helped with water retention, enabling you to look more "cut". It's a visual effect.
How are you measuring body fat?5 -
tlflag1620 wrote: »tlflag1620 wrote: »tlflag1620 wrote: »tlflag1620 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »So you ate less than you burned (CICO) while choosing foods that met your satiety needs?
I think her point (and I suspect you understand this, even if you want to play coy) is that for her, and many others, restricting carbs helps with satiety, making it easier to create a deficit without going hungry. I think she realizes that she ate less than she burned, she's just saying that LCHF made it easier for her to do that.
/end thread indeed.
But this is the thing you don't have to restrict carbs to help with satiety, I went low carb 4 or 5 years ago and it was horrible...absolutely horrible...I never had that satisfied feeling....and by carbs I mean starches, I ate lots of veggies.
But after coming here and reading I realized it was okay to eat potatoes and white rice and pasta and I was so very happy
Even to this day I eat more protein and fats then carbs and I am "satisfied" and guess what lost weight and maintained....domgibson88 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »domgibson88 wrote: »So, I'm sick of when people on here say they are struggling and someone on here suggests low carb and then another person berates them and says it's all about calories eat as much as you want but stay within the calories but heres the thing, did that and could not stay within my calories because carbs don't keep me satiated....they satisfy for an hour then I'm hungry again.. For example I used to have cheerios for breakfast but by first break at work (930) I was starving and usually grabbed a cookie or bag of chips...now I have 3 scrambled eggs with salsa (more calories) but I'm good till lunch!!I may have a small healthy snack like some Spitz or a handful of almonds but that's it!!!Now I'm not saying this works for everyone but I've lost 6 pounds in 2 and a half weeks doing this, it's working for me...so when someone on here suggests low care it is a VALID suggestion...the whole "eat whatever you want and stay within calorie goal" is not the ultimate answer so don't be quick to judge someone's suggestion.. Different lifestyles work for different people.
I bolded what was the actual problem for you. How about grabbing something low calorie instead of cookies and chips?
BTW. cookies and chips? Loooooots of fat.
What I've said on here many times when I get to The point where I'm starving I have no self control and go for unhealthy stuff, eating a low carb high fat meal allows me to not feel that way and I can get away with a handful of almonds or a healthy snack till I get to lunch cause at break, I am still satiated from breakfast.....
but you didn't have to go low carb for that all you had to do was plan ahead for what you knew was coming and pack yogurt, fruit, veggies etc to snack on...
You might not have to restrict carbs for satiety. I do. I used to eat lots of whole grains, veggies and fruit, modest amounts of lean meats and low fat or fat free dairy, very little added sugar very little added fat. Cutting back on obvious "junk" (soda, chips, cookies, etc) helped, but not enough. I still struggled with hunger much of the time. When I dropped the grains and sugary fruit (keeping low sugar and savory fruit), started favoring fibrous veggies rather than starchy ones, switched to fattier cuts of meat and whole eggs, switched to full fat dairy, and increased the added fat (good fats like butter, lard, and bacon drippings), my hunger diminished in a big way. I was able to make more rational decisions and trust my hunger signals. Yes, I was obviously in a calorie deficit, so I lost weight. But for the first time in my life I was able to easily stick to that deficit long enough. I wasn't fighting hunger all the time. You may do well on a higher carb diet. Not everyone does.
Yogurt (at least the low fat kind, full fat regular or Greek yogurt is okay for me, in small doses), fruit, starchy veggies, grains (even "whole" grains)... These fuel my hunger. I'd eat those, find myself still starving, and reach for more.
did you miss the part where I said I eat more fats and protein but don't feel that going low carb is the end all to be all...it does help with weight loss esp at first but you can up protein and fats without sacrificing carbs to a degree that you are "restricting"
I eat lots of meat, eggs, cheese, butter, cook with lard and bacon fat...
I guess I missed the part where I, or the OP, said that low carb was the end all be all. I did see where you said "you don't have to restrict carbs to help with satiety". Had you said "*I* don't have to restrict carbs to help with satiety" I would have agreed with you. Plenty of people don't have to restrict carbs. I'm just not one of them. Not that low carb is the only way, or even the best way for all, just that it is the best way for me. And, for what it's worth, while many might find my diet "restrictive" I've never felt freer or more in control of my eating habits. Since I'm not hungry al, the time, I am free to indulge in true moderation without fear that that one little slice of cake will end up being half a cake before the night is over. I couldn't trust myself before. Now I can. To me, that's liberating, not restricting.
" It just upsets me that some people on here think they're way is the absolute answer and it's not." from the OP and there is an absolute answer CI<CO.....going low carb doesn't guarantee weight loss.
not all of themtlflag1620 wrote: »tlflag1620 wrote: »peter56765 wrote: »I did low carb for over a year and it worked as advertised. I lost the weight and wasn't hungry but ultimately I gained it all back and then some. The reason? Restrictive diets are boring to me and ultimately my cravings for (literally) forbidden fruits got to be too much. Low carb means saying goodbye to 85% of everything at the grocery store and 95% of everything at a restaurant. No thanks. Last night we had homemade strawberry shortcake with fresh strawberries. I adjusted my lunch and exercise to fit it in calorie wise. Pretty easy to do and IMO, life's too short to miss out on things like that.
Low carb means any kind of meat in the market, most veggies, many fruits, any full fat dairy product, dark chocolate, seeds and nuts of all kinds. Okay, 85% of the "junk food" in the grocery store is off limits, but I'd have a hard time fitting soda, chips, and candy into my calorie limits regardless. Dining out is easy - some kind of meat plus salad and veggies. It's as hard or as easy as you make it.
I regularly eat berries with heavy cream. I just skip the shortcake. Leaves room for more berries and more cream.
this sounds like lchf...not just low carb.
Not being snarky, but low carb is supposed to be high fat. When you reduce carbs (as a percentage) you obviously need to replace them with something else. Too much protein can have negative health consequences. So carbs get replaced with fats.
Yes... to lose weight CI<CO. I don't think anyone is disputing that. For some (not all, and I think I and the OP have acknowledged this) LC makes reducing CI much, much easier. CICO is not a method. It is a mathematical idea. Whether you create CI<CO by going low carb, by going vegan, by weighing and measuring and counting, etc, yes, you still need to create a deficit to lose weight. There is more than one way to create that deficit.
Which LC diets that are not high fat are you referring to?
Lots of people try disputing that on a daily basis. Not necessarily in this thread thankfully, or it would look a lot worse.6 -
tlflag1620 wrote: »
Just a tip - the six lbs you've lost in the past couple weeks are mostly water. Your rate of loss will slow down. There's nothing wrong with that, just be prepared to see more realistic results (a lb or two a week depending on your stats) over the coming weeks. And if you do find yourself "stuck" you may be one of those unfortunate souls who end up having to pay attention to both carbs and calories (I find if I watch carbs the calories take care of themselves, but that is not universal). Good luck! And consider joining the low carb forum here on MFP. Great group!
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group
Eta link to group
I am unable to join group, is it closed?
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Figured it out!!1
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VintageFeline wrote: »Danny_Boy13 wrote: »
Here is my before and after pics on my recent Low Carb eating. I will say that this is the ONLY thing that I changed was taking away some carbs and adding in some proteins. I also started drinking 3-4 liters of water a day. This was over a 12 week span. I gained 3lbs of LMM but also lost 3% BF. All in all I still weigh the same, almost identical, I just replaced fat with muscle. Food reacts differently with different people. As stated for some to comment in the manner of "No, it shouldn't matter" may true for some but for me it does not seem to hold true.
Doesn't really prove anything. You could very well have had the same results changing nothing. I expect drinking more water and decreasing crabs helped with water retention, enabling you to look more "cut". It's a visual effect.
How are you measuring body fat?
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queenliz99 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Danny_Boy13 wrote: »
Here is my before and after pics on my recent Low Carb eating. I will say that this is the ONLY thing that I changed was taking away some carbs and adding in some proteins. I also started drinking 3-4 liters of water a day. This was over a 12 week span. I gained 3lbs of LMM but also lost 3% BF. All in all I still weigh the same, almost identical, I just replaced fat with muscle. Food reacts differently with different people. As stated for some to comment in the manner of "No, it shouldn't matter" may true for some but for me it does not seem to hold true.
Doesn't really prove anything. You could very well have had the same results changing nothing. I expect drinking more water and decreasing crabs helped with water retention, enabling you to look more "cut". It's a visual effect.
How are you measuring body fat?
I like crabs though!!
D'oh! Leaving it, 'cause funny.3 -
queenliz99 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Danny_Boy13 wrote: »
Here is my before and after pics on my recent Low Carb eating. I will say that this is the ONLY thing that I changed was taking away some carbs and adding in some proteins. I also started drinking 3-4 liters of water a day. This was over a 12 week span. I gained 3lbs of LMM but also lost 3% BF. All in all I still weigh the same, almost identical, I just replaced fat with muscle. Food reacts differently with different people. As stated for some to comment in the manner of "No, it shouldn't matter" may true for some but for me it does not seem to hold true.
Doesn't really prove anything. You could very well have had the same results changing nothing. I expect drinking more water and decreasing crabs helped with water retention, enabling you to look more "cut". It's a visual effect.
How are you measuring body fat?
I like crabs though!!
But they are salty and increase water retention.2 -
VintageFeline wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Danny_Boy13 wrote: »
Here is my before and after pics on my recent Low Carb eating. I will say that this is the ONLY thing that I changed was taking away some carbs and adding in some proteins. I also started drinking 3-4 liters of water a day. This was over a 12 week span. I gained 3lbs of LMM but also lost 3% BF. All in all I still weigh the same, almost identical, I just replaced fat with muscle. Food reacts differently with different people. As stated for some to comment in the manner of "No, it shouldn't matter" may true for some but for me it does not seem to hold true.
Doesn't really prove anything. You could very well have had the same results changing nothing. I expect drinking more water and decreasing crabs helped with water retention, enabling you to look more "cut". It's a visual effect.
How are you measuring body fat?
I like crabs though!!
D'oh! Leaving it, 'cause funny.
Do leave it! This thread could segue to more crabby carb eating crabs!0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Danny_Boy13 wrote: »
Here is my before and after pics on my recent Low Carb eating. I will say that this is the ONLY thing that I changed was taking away some carbs and adding in some proteins. I also started drinking 3-4 liters of water a day. This was over a 12 week span. I gained 3lbs of LMM but also lost 3% BF. All in all I still weigh the same, almost identical, I just replaced fat with muscle. Food reacts differently with different people. As stated for some to comment in the manner of "No, it shouldn't matter" may true for some but for me it does not seem to hold true.
Doesn't really prove anything. You could very well have had the same results changing nothing. I expect drinking more water and decreasing crabs helped with water retention, enabling you to look more "cut". It's a visual effect.
How are you measuring body fat?
I like crabs though!!
But they are salty and increase water retention.
Drink more wine then!!0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Danny_Boy13 wrote: »
Here is my before and after pics on my recent Low Carb eating. I will say that this is the ONLY thing that I changed was taking away some carbs and adding in some proteins. I also started drinking 3-4 liters of water a day. This was over a 12 week span. I gained 3lbs of LMM but also lost 3% BF. All in all I still weigh the same, almost identical, I just replaced fat with muscle. Food reacts differently with different people. As stated for some to comment in the manner of "No, it shouldn't matter" may true for some but for me it does not seem to hold true.
Doesn't really prove anything. You could very well have had the same results changing nothing. I expect drinking more water and decreasing crabs helped with water retention, enabling you to look more "cut". It's a visual effect.
How are you measuring body fat?
I like crabs though!!
D'oh! Leaving it, 'cause funny.
Do leave it! This thread could segue to more crabby carb eating crabs!
What do crabs eat? I've never pondered on this before!0 -
VintageFeline wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Danny_Boy13 wrote: »
Here is my before and after pics on my recent Low Carb eating. I will say that this is the ONLY thing that I changed was taking away some carbs and adding in some proteins. I also started drinking 3-4 liters of water a day. This was over a 12 week span. I gained 3lbs of LMM but also lost 3% BF. All in all I still weigh the same, almost identical, I just replaced fat with muscle. Food reacts differently with different people. As stated for some to comment in the manner of "No, it shouldn't matter" may true for some but for me it does not seem to hold true.
Doesn't really prove anything. You could very well have had the same results changing nothing. I expect drinking more water and decreasing crabs helped with water retention, enabling you to look more "cut". It's a visual effect.
How are you measuring body fat?
I like crabs though!!
D'oh! Leaving it, 'cause funny.
Do leave it! This thread could segue to more crabby carb eating crabs!
What do crabs eat? I've never pondered on this before!
Pasta with butter!!1 -
Danny_Boy13 wrote: »
Here is my before and after pics on my recent Low Carb eating. I will say that this is the ONLY thing that I changed was taking away some carbs and adding in some proteins. I also started drinking 3-4 liters of water a day. This was over a 12 week span. I gained 3lbs of LMM but also lost 3% BF. All in all I still weigh the same, almost identical, I just replaced fat with muscle. Food reacts differently with different people. As stated for some to comment in the manner of "No, it shouldn't matter" may true for some but for me it does not seem to hold true.
Idk what you wrote because DAMN.
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Doesn't really prove anything. You could very well have had the same results changing nothing.
No, I had been on a certain eating plan for some time, 2yrs+, and although I was gaining strength my body measurements never really changed much. Maybe dropping a point here or there on BF % but nothing like the changes I have seen over the course of these past 12 weeks. Had I continued on the same meal plan I was on I would still most likely look like I did on the left.
I expect drinking more water and decreasing crabs helped with water retention, enabling you to look more "cut". It's a visual effect.
Although this could possibly be the case I was already drinking a fair amount of water... 2-3 liters. So it is not like I went from drinking a few cups a day to a gallon. Just added about .5 to 1 liter. Also my muscle mass I gained 2.96 lbs of LMM so I do not think this is a visual effect.
How are you measuring body fat?
At the local store where I get nutrition counseling from they have a machine called Inbody. In short you stand on a machine and hold some handles and it measures BW, SMM (Skeletal Muscle Mass, Water Weight, BF, ect. I also get measured the old fashioned way (scale, and pinches, which both methods are yielding very similar results). Both methods are within <.5% during my 12 week span so going forward I am not going to bother with the tape and pinches. I know that Hydrostatic measurements will be a little more accurate but I am also not in a BB contest so I am fine with a fast / easy method I am currently using.
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If you got results on low carb that's great. Low carb is how you did it, CI<CO is why it worked...4
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queenliz99 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Danny_Boy13 wrote: »
Here is my before and after pics on my recent Low Carb eating. I will say that this is the ONLY thing that I changed was taking away some carbs and adding in some proteins. I also started drinking 3-4 liters of water a day. This was over a 12 week span. I gained 3lbs of LMM but also lost 3% BF. All in all I still weigh the same, almost identical, I just replaced fat with muscle. Food reacts differently with different people. As stated for some to comment in the manner of "No, it shouldn't matter" may true for some but for me it does not seem to hold true.
Doesn't really prove anything. You could very well have had the same results changing nothing. I expect drinking more water and decreasing crabs helped with water retention, enabling you to look more "cut". It's a visual effect.
How are you measuring body fat?
I like crabs though!!
But they are salty and increase water retention.
Drink more wine then!!
It's like you don't even know me...
ETA: Hahahahahaha. I read that as water initially. Yes, you do know me!
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tlflag1620 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »tlflag1620 wrote: »tlflag1620 wrote: »tlflag1620 wrote: »tlflag1620 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »So you ate less than you burned (CICO) while choosing foods that met your satiety needs?
I think her point (and I suspect you understand this, even if you want to play coy) is that for her, and many others, restricting carbs helps with satiety, making it easier to create a deficit without going hungry. I think she realizes that she ate less than she burned, she's just saying that LCHF made it easier for her to do that.
/end thread indeed.
But this is the thing you don't have to restrict carbs to help with satiety, I went low carb 4 or 5 years ago and it was horrible...absolutely horrible...I never had that satisfied feeling....and by carbs I mean starches, I ate lots of veggies.
But after coming here and reading I realized it was okay to eat potatoes and white rice and pasta and I was so very happy
Even to this day I eat more protein and fats then carbs and I am "satisfied" and guess what lost weight and maintained....domgibson88 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »domgibson88 wrote: »So, I'm sick of when people on here say they are struggling and someone on here suggests low carb and then another person berates them and says it's all about calories eat as much as you want but stay within the calories but heres the thing, did that and could not stay within my calories because carbs don't keep me satiated....they satisfy for an hour then I'm hungry again.. For example I used to have cheerios for breakfast but by first break at work (930) I was starving and usually grabbed a cookie or bag of chips...now I have 3 scrambled eggs with salsa (more calories) but I'm good till lunch!!I may have a small healthy snack like some Spitz or a handful of almonds but that's it!!!Now I'm not saying this works for everyone but I've lost 6 pounds in 2 and a half weeks doing this, it's working for me...so when someone on here suggests low care it is a VALID suggestion...the whole "eat whatever you want and stay within calorie goal" is not the ultimate answer so don't be quick to judge someone's suggestion.. Different lifestyles work for different people.
I bolded what was the actual problem for you. How about grabbing something low calorie instead of cookies and chips?
BTW. cookies and chips? Loooooots of fat.
What I've said on here many times when I get to The point where I'm starving I have no self control and go for unhealthy stuff, eating a low carb high fat meal allows me to not feel that way and I can get away with a handful of almonds or a healthy snack till I get to lunch cause at break, I am still satiated from breakfast.....
but you didn't have to go low carb for that all you had to do was plan ahead for what you knew was coming and pack yogurt, fruit, veggies etc to snack on...
You might not have to restrict carbs for satiety. I do. I used to eat lots of whole grains, veggies and fruit, modest amounts of lean meats and low fat or fat free dairy, very little added sugar very little added fat. Cutting back on obvious "junk" (soda, chips, cookies, etc) helped, but not enough. I still struggled with hunger much of the time. When I dropped the grains and sugary fruit (keeping low sugar and savory fruit), started favoring fibrous veggies rather than starchy ones, switched to fattier cuts of meat and whole eggs, switched to full fat dairy, and increased the added fat (good fats like butter, lard, and bacon drippings), my hunger diminished in a big way. I was able to make more rational decisions and trust my hunger signals. Yes, I was obviously in a calorie deficit, so I lost weight. But for the first time in my life I was able to easily stick to that deficit long enough. I wasn't fighting hunger all the time. You may do well on a higher carb diet. Not everyone does.
Yogurt (at least the low fat kind, full fat regular or Greek yogurt is okay for me, in small doses), fruit, starchy veggies, grains (even "whole" grains)... These fuel my hunger. I'd eat those, find myself still starving, and reach for more.
did you miss the part where I said I eat more fats and protein but don't feel that going low carb is the end all to be all...it does help with weight loss esp at first but you can up protein and fats without sacrificing carbs to a degree that you are "restricting"
I eat lots of meat, eggs, cheese, butter, cook with lard and bacon fat...
I guess I missed the part where I, or the OP, said that low carb was the end all be all. I did see where you said "you don't have to restrict carbs to help with satiety". Had you said "*I* don't have to restrict carbs to help with satiety" I would have agreed with you. Plenty of people don't have to restrict carbs. I'm just not one of them. Not that low carb is the only way, or even the best way for all, just that it is the best way for me. And, for what it's worth, while many might find my diet "restrictive" I've never felt freer or more in control of my eating habits. Since I'm not hungry al, the time, I am free to indulge in true moderation without fear that that one little slice of cake will end up being half a cake before the night is over. I couldn't trust myself before. Now I can. To me, that's liberating, not restricting.
" It just upsets me that some people on here think they're way is the absolute answer and it's not." from the OP and there is an absolute answer CI<CO.....going low carb doesn't guarantee weight loss.
not all of themtlflag1620 wrote: »tlflag1620 wrote: »peter56765 wrote: »I did low carb for over a year and it worked as advertised. I lost the weight and wasn't hungry but ultimately I gained it all back and then some. The reason? Restrictive diets are boring to me and ultimately my cravings for (literally) forbidden fruits got to be too much. Low carb means saying goodbye to 85% of everything at the grocery store and 95% of everything at a restaurant. No thanks. Last night we had homemade strawberry shortcake with fresh strawberries. I adjusted my lunch and exercise to fit it in calorie wise. Pretty easy to do and IMO, life's too short to miss out on things like that.
Low carb means any kind of meat in the market, most veggies, many fruits, any full fat dairy product, dark chocolate, seeds and nuts of all kinds. Okay, 85% of the "junk food" in the grocery store is off limits, but I'd have a hard time fitting soda, chips, and candy into my calorie limits regardless. Dining out is easy - some kind of meat plus salad and veggies. It's as hard or as easy as you make it.
I regularly eat berries with heavy cream. I just skip the shortcake. Leaves room for more berries and more cream.
this sounds like lchf...not just low carb.
Not being snarky, but low carb is supposed to be high fat. When you reduce carbs (as a percentage) you obviously need to replace them with something else. Too much protein can have negative health consequences. So carbs get replaced with fats.
Yes... to lose weight CI<CO. I don't think anyone is disputing that. For some (not all, and I think I and the OP have acknowledged this) LC makes reducing CI much, much easier. CICO is not a method. It is a mathematical idea. Whether you create CI<CO by going low carb, by going vegan, by weighing and measuring and counting, etc, yes, you still need to create a deficit to lose weight. There is more than one way to create that deficit.
Which LC diets that are not high fat are you referring to?
I agree that the way of creating the deficit is largely up to the individual to determine what will work best for them.
Couldn't a person be LC and High Protein? I'm not saying it is advisable or that there is a common approach, I'm just assuming that with three macros to play with, if you reduce one, you could increase either of the other two, right?
Yes, they could be LC and LF at the same time, but it's not really advisable. Perhaps under a doctor's supervision, for certain medical conditions, that's about the only time I can think a LFLC (high protein) diet might be used. But I'll wait and see what Stef meant, specifically.
NOt that I am recommending this particular diet The 17 day diet is low carb moderate fat and lots of protein.
No fruit after 2
Only veggies (no corn or potatoes or squashes etc ) for the first 17 days
Moderate fats like butter, oils
No dairy
2nd set of 17 days whole grain starches but in limited qty
same as above.
It knocks the weight off...but it's low carb, lowish fats and exceptionally high protein.
I was never hungry...but didn't have that satisfied feeling ever....
and if I remember correctly (I didn't do it personally) but simply for life I don't think is HighFat either.0
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