Eating Clean - No Such Thing
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Don't you have anything better to do with your life than berate people for their individual opinions? If you wanna eat big macs all day and die of a heart attack at age 50, be my guest, it'll be one less jerk in the world.
Here's the problem. There are a lot of people reading these forums and not responding. I respond so they don't get flat out wrong information. Your thinking in antequated and dangerous. You're doing more harm than good to the general weight loss community. No one said you should eat big macs all day, but if you wanted to eat a big mac every single day of your life you could. While maintaining a healthy life style and living to a ripe old age.
Stop with the food shaming.0 -
Has anyone on here ever watched the documentary "A Beautiful Truth"? It's on Netflix. If you haven't seen it, please do.
Now you're plugging homeopathic medicine?
No. Just saying, there are plenty of studies that show diet is directly related to health. the better your diet, the better your health.
So what about the people who are in excellent health but, according to you, have poor diets?
Don't you have anything better to do with your life than berate people for their individual opinions? If you wanna eat big macs all day and die of a heart attack at age 50, be my guest, it'll be one less jerk in the world.
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Don't you have anything better to do with your life than berate people for their individual opinions? If you wanna eat big macs all day and die of a heart attack at age 50, be my guest, it'll be one less jerk in the world.
Your thinking in antequated and dangerous. You're doing more harm than good to the general weight loss community.
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Has anyone on here ever watched the documentary "A Beautiful Truth"? It's on Netflix. If you haven't seen it, please do.
Now you're plugging homeopathic medicine?
No. Just saying, there are plenty of studies that show diet is directly related to health. the better your diet, the better your health.
So what about the people who are in excellent health but, according to you, have poor diets?
Don't you have anything better to do with your life than berate people for their individual opinions? If you wanna eat big macs all day and die of a heart attack at age 50, be my guest, it'll be one less jerk in the world.
I believe this was his whole point to begin with.... Just because you do not care to eat big macs is not the issue and he nor I have a problem with that whatsoever, the issue is when someone blatantly attacks some one for their choices and tells them they are going to die or get cancer....... that is the problem....0 -
Has anyone on here ever watched the documentary "A Beautiful Truth"? It's on Netflix. If you haven't seen it, please do.
Now you're plugging homeopathic medicine?
No. Just saying, there are plenty of studies that show diet is directly related to health. the better your diet, the better your health.
So what about the people who are in excellent health but, according to you, have poor diets?
Don't you have anything better to do with your life than berate people for their individual opinions? If you wanna eat big macs all day and die of a heart attack at age 50, be my guest, it'll be one less jerk in the world.
And yet here's what you have to say in a different thread:#1 - You haven't given it enough time. you need to stick with it a little longer. You didn't gain all the weight overnight, you can't expect it to drop off after a couple weeks. It takes time and effort.
#2 - When you first start, your body goes into shock and retains water to protect your muscles (which seems like you aren't losing weight, but you are). You should start seeing better results soon, once your body gets used to you exercising.
#3- Only you can decide if you want to do this or not. If you want to go back to eating Sundaes and laying on the couch all day, do it. If you want to change, you are the only one who can be responsible for that.
#4- You don't need to completely cut out things from your diet (alcohol, sugar, etc) If you like drinking wine, drink wine, just fit it into your calories. Trying to stop eating/drinking all your favorite things right out of the gate will make you miserable. Just slow it down, watch portion size, and stick to your goals, but be happy.
Good luck!
#4 sounds dangerously close to IIFIYM...0 -
Has anyone on here ever watched the documentary "A Beautiful Truth"? It's on Netflix. If you haven't seen it, please do.
Now you're plugging homeopathic medicine?
No. Just saying, there are plenty of studies that show diet is directly related to health. the better your diet, the better your health.
So what about the people who are in excellent health but, according to you, have poor diets?
Don't you have anything better to do with your life than berate people for their individual opinions? If you wanna eat big macs all day and die of a heart attack at age 50, be my guest, it'll be one less jerk in the world.
And yet here's what you have to say in a different thread:#1 - You haven't given it enough time. you need to stick with it a little longer. You didn't gain all the weight overnight, you can't expect it to drop off after a couple weeks. It takes time and effort.
#2 - When you first start, your body goes into shock and retains water to protect your muscles (which seems like you aren't losing weight, but you are). You should start seeing better results soon, once your body gets used to you exercising.
#3- Only you can decide if you want to do this or not. If you want to go back to eating Sundaes and laying on the couch all day, do it. If you want to change, you are the only one who can be responsible for that.
#4- You don't need to completely cut out things from your diet (alcohol, sugar, etc) If you like drinking wine, drink wine, just fit it into your calories. Trying to stop eating/drinking all your favorite things right out of the gate will make you miserable. Just slow it down, watch portion size, and stick to your goals, but be happy.
Good luck!
#4 sounds dangerously close to IIFIYM...
BOO-YA!0 -
Has anyone on here ever watched the documentary "A Beautiful Truth"? It's on Netflix. If you haven't seen it, please do.
Now you're plugging homeopathic medicine?
No. Just saying, there are plenty of studies that show diet is directly related to health. the better your diet, the better your health.
So what about the people who are in excellent health but, according to you, have poor diets?
Don't you have anything better to do with your life than berate people for their individual opinions? If you wanna eat big macs all day and die of a heart attack at age 50, be my guest, it'll be one less jerk in the world.
And yet here's what you have to say in a different thread:#1 - You haven't given it enough time. you need to stick with it a little longer. You didn't gain all the weight overnight, you can't expect it to drop off after a couple weeks. It takes time and effort.
#2 - When you first start, your body goes into shock and retains water to protect your muscles (which seems like you aren't losing weight, but you are). You should start seeing better results soon, once your body gets used to you exercising.
#3- Only you can decide if you want to do this or not. If you want to go back to eating Sundaes and laying on the couch all day, do it. If you want to change, you are the only one who can be responsible for that.
#4- You don't need to completely cut out things from your diet (alcohol, sugar, etc) If you like drinking wine, drink wine, just fit it into your calories. Trying to stop eating/drinking all your favorite things right out of the gate will make you miserable. Just slow it down, watch portion size, and stick to your goals, but be happy.
Good luck!
#4 sounds dangerously close to IIFIYM...
Boom goes the dynamite. Maria, shutting *kitten* down.0 -
Has anyone on here ever watched the documentary "A Beautiful Truth"? It's on Netflix. If you haven't seen it, please do.
Now you're plugging homeopathic medicine?
No. Just saying, there are plenty of studies that show diet is directly related to health. the better your diet, the better your health.
So what about the people who are in excellent health but, according to you, have poor diets?
Don't you have anything better to do with your life than berate people for their individual opinions? If you wanna eat big macs all day and die of a heart attack at age 50, be my guest, it'll be one less jerk in the world.
And yet here's what you have to say in a different thread:#1 - You haven't given it enough time. you need to stick with it a little longer. You didn't gain all the weight overnight, you can't expect it to drop off after a couple weeks. It takes time and effort.
#2 - When you first start, your body goes into shock and retains water to protect your muscles (which seems like you aren't losing weight, but you are). You should start seeing better results soon, once your body gets used to you exercising.
#3- Only you can decide if you want to do this or not. If you want to go back to eating Sundaes and laying on the couch all day, do it. If you want to change, you are the only one who can be responsible for that.
#4- You don't need to completely cut out things from your diet (alcohol, sugar, etc) If you like drinking wine, drink wine, just fit it into your calories. Trying to stop eating/drinking all your favorite things right out of the gate will make you miserable. Just slow it down, watch portion size, and stick to your goals, but be happy.
Good luck!
#4 sounds dangerously close to IIFIYM...
Hypocrite of the year award goes to you.0 -
I'm not telling people to go stuff their face with unhealthy food, no. All I'm saying is feel free to mix it up every once in a while. Eat foods that love. If you love eating these "clean" foods every single day, then go ahead. But most people I know who are dieting don't do it this way, because cravings eventually do kick in and mentally you'll start caving in, trust me. It's easy to say "Oh I've been eating clean for 7 days", that's cool, try doing it for the rest of your life.
And thats why you have "cheat meals" to avoid the binge eating. Eating clean just means, eating things close to the natural state, so there is a such thing.....duh
haha it makes me laugh when people have no idea what they are talking about, but act like it. :laugh:
Wow so you know everything about this? You are a Professor? Nutritionist? Doctor? Or are you being a hypocrite? You shouldn't belittle people for not knowing something. Life is about learning and finding things out. Claiming to know everything just stops you from learning. Be belittling others discourages them to learn... So nothing good comes out of it. =(
Does it state I know everything, no it states there is a such thing as clean eating, Thats all it states. It's just like OP states there is no such things as eating clean. Confused at how I stated I know everything. :ohwell: People have there opinions on to what "clean eating" is, that is where people differ, but in the end there is a such thing as eating clean.0 -
Has anyone on here ever watched the documentary "A Beautiful Truth"? It's on Netflix. If you haven't seen it, please do.
Now you're plugging homeopathic medicine?
No. Just saying, there are plenty of studies that show diet is directly related to health. the better your diet, the better your health.
So what about the people who are in excellent health but, according to you, have poor diets?
Don't you have anything better to do with your life than berate people for their individual opinions? If you wanna eat big macs all day and die of a heart attack at age 50, be my guest, it'll be one less jerk in the world.
You just berated peoples individual opinions in that sentence.... So does that make you a jerk? By your logic is does.0 -
wrong.
eating clean does exist,,0 -
I'm not telling people to go stuff their face with unhealthy food, no. All I'm saying is feel free to mix it up every once in a while. Eat foods that love. If you love eating these "clean" foods every single day, then go ahead. But most people I know who are dieting don't do it this way, because cravings eventually do kick in and mentally you'll start caving in, trust me. It's easy to say "Oh I've been eating clean for 7 days", that's cool, try doing it for the rest of your life.
And thats why you have "cheat meals" to avoid the binge eating. Eating clean just means, eating things close to the natural state, so there is a such thing.....duh
haha it makes me laugh when people have no idea what they are talking about, but act like it. :laugh:
Wow so you know everything about this? You are a Professor? Nutritionist? Doctor? Or are you being a hypocrite? You shouldn't belittle people for not knowing something. Life is about learning and finding things out. Claiming to know everything just stops you from learning. Be belittling others discourages them to learn... So nothing good comes out of it. =(
Does it state I know everything, no it states there is a such thing as clean eating, Thats all it states. It's just like OP states there is no such things as eating clean. Confused at how I stated I know everything. :ohwell: People have there opinions on to what "clean eating" is, that is where people differ, but in the end there is a such thing as eating clean.
I think the message in this was stop acting like you know everything when you too clearly don't (as you just said you didnt) and stop throwing people to the curb because you think you somehow have the right to. Which you act like with the ".duh
haha it makes me laugh when people have no idea what they are talking about, but act like it. :laugh:" Just makes you sound like a 12 yr old with an attitude problem.0 -
I wish people would stop caring who calls what clean or unclean. Everyone has an opinion (yours is one as well) and it doesn't change anything.
Amen, stop preaching and telling everyone what to think and what to do. If someone wants to call a food clean, does it effect your progress? Probably not. Let them enjoy their organic clean produce without bashing them for not wanting to eat McDonalds, its just ridiculous. Go enjoy your IIFYM Philosophy. Do you and let them choose what philosophy works best for them.0 -
when was the last anyone saw an obese person who eats clean?
I ate clean when I was younger. My family was very strict about it (we lived on a farm and grew most of our own food), but I still ended up obese and very sick because I ate too much. You can be obese and unhealthy while eating clean.0 -
I wish people would stop caring who calls what clean or unclean. Everyone has an opinion (yours is one as well) and it doesn't change anything.
Amen, stop preaching and telling everyone what to think and what to do. If someone wants to call a food clean, does it effect your progress? Probably not. Let them enjoy their organic clean produce without bashing them for not wanting to eat McDonalds, its just ridiculous. Go enjoy your IIFYM Philosophy. Do you and let them choose what philosophy works best for them.
No one gets bashed for eating clean. They get bashed for telling people lies and bullying using threats and fear.0 -
I wish people would stop caring who calls what clean or unclean. Everyone has an opinion (yours is one as well) and it doesn't change anything.
Amen, stop preaching and telling everyone what to think and what to do. If someone wants to call a food clean, does it effect your progress? Probably not. Let them enjoy their organic clean produce without bashing them for not wanting to eat McDonalds, its just ridiculous. Go enjoy your IIFYM Philosophy. Do you and let them choose what philosophy works best for them.
No one gets bashed for eating clean. They get bashed for telling people lies and bullying using threats and fear.
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I wish people would stop caring who calls what clean or unclean. Everyone has an opinion (yours is one as well) and it doesn't change anything.
Amen, stop preaching and telling everyone what to think and what to do. If someone wants to call a food clean, does it effect your progress? Probably not. Let them enjoy their organic clean produce without bashing them for not wanting to eat McDonalds, its just ridiculous. Go enjoy your IIFYM Philosophy. Do you and let them choose what philosophy works best for them.
It seems it is more along the lines of clearing up the lies, scare tactics and deceiving information that is poured into the forums. In that same breath, most of the time the bashing does not come from those that are trying to clarify, but those that continue to spread wrong and deceiving information.0 -
I am a IIFYMer so the vast majority of my caloric intake is made up of lean meats, fresh veggie, and whole grains and that being said I try to support the local farmers and buy all our produce from them.. Our locally organic corn grower just started selling there sweet corn this morning so I stopped and got a couple dozen... I just shucked 6 ears and 4 of them had corn worms... ROFL I just pick the worms off and cut the bad part off.. Maybe that is why I will kick back a couple twinkies for dessert.... (That was sarcasm but yes I am still eating the twinkies) :drinker:0
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I wish people would stop caring who calls what clean or unclean. Everyone has an opinion (yours is one as well) and it doesn't change anything.
Amen, stop preaching and telling everyone what to think and what to do. If someone wants to call a food clean, does it effect your progress? Probably not. Let them enjoy their organic clean produce without bashing them for not wanting to eat McDonalds, its just ridiculous. Go enjoy your IIFYM Philosophy. Do you and let them choose what philosophy works best for them.
No one gets bashed for eating clean. They get bashed for telling people lies and bullying using threats and fear.
This. And to add that it is usually the clean eaters that are quick to criticize the IIFYMers for eating twinkies/bacon/ice cream and generally maintaining a harsh attitude toward said foods, but rarely does an IIFYMer talk bad about eating fresh vegetables/quinoa/lean meats. Nobody bashes someone for NOT eating McDonalds, but those who admit to eating McDonalds are often quick to be bashed.0 -
Eating clean: Eating food thats natural, minimally processed.
Eating dirty: Eating food lacking vitamins, with high sugar count, added preservatives, mcdonalds, get the picture?
There really is such thing as eating clean and eating dirty. Get over it. :flowerforyou:0 -
Eating clean: Eating food thats natural, minimally processed.
Eating dirty: Eating food lacking vitamins, with high sugar count, added preservatives, mcdonalds, get the picture?
There really is such thing as eating clean and eating dirty. Get over it. :flowerforyou:
Please explain to me, if you can, what's "dirty" about sugar or preservatives? I don't get the picture. I openly challenge you to explain it to me.0 -
I wish people would stop caring who calls what clean or unclean. Everyone has an opinion (yours is one as well) and it doesn't change anything.
Amen, stop preaching and telling everyone what to think and what to do. If someone wants to call a food clean, does it effect your progress? Probably not. Let them enjoy their organic clean produce without bashing them for not wanting to eat McDonalds, its just ridiculous. Go enjoy your IIFYM Philosophy. Do you and let them choose what philosophy works best for them.
No one gets bashed for eating clean. They get bashed for telling people lies and bullying using threats and fear.
This. And to add that it is usually the clean eaters that are quick to criticize the IIFYMers for eating twinkies/bacon/ice cream and generally maintaining a harsh attitude toward said foods, but rarely does an IIFYMer talk bad about eating fresh vegetables/quinoa/lean meats. Nobody bashes someone for NOT eating McDonalds, but those who admit to eating McDonalds are often quick to be bashed.
Lets first clarify I am in no way a "clean eater" though I try to eat food as close to its natural state as possible if I can. Or as some might say "clean". The more fruits, veggies, lean meats, fish, whole grains, legumes I can fit in the better. I also still splurge, especially on the weekends. In my short time on these boards I haven't seen anyone telling any IIFYMer how to eat, its been quite the opposite. What I have seen is someone bring up something as simple as not wanting to eat white rice and the attack begins on why she should just eat white rice. Or arguments over demonizing a stupid twinkie..which no one actually did. Some ( not all) of you guys argue over how nutrient dense a particular food is and sometimes it gets a bit silly. Stop arguing over how healthy a twinkie or thick slab of bacon is.
If it fits into your macros and you want to eat it claps to you.
If another member says I'd rather find a better substitute it isn't a cue to argue over how great you think bacon and twinkies are. Its not really necessary to post the nutritional label to point out that "ooh see there is 1g of protein in a twinkie, must be good for you".0 -
Eating clean: Eating food thats natural, minimally processed.
Eating dirty: Eating food lacking vitamins, with high sugar count, added preservatives, mcdonalds, get the picture?
There really is such thing as eating clean and eating dirty. Get over it. :flowerforyou:
Please explain to me, if you can, what's "dirty" about sugar or preservatives? I don't get the picture. I openly challenge you to explain it to me.
Here's the thing, all the preservatives in foods nowadays, the unnatural additives, the added sugar, you can't even tell me everything these man made ingredients do to our bodies, can you? I'm not to going to go out of my way to fish out studies, I'm just going to share my experiences with food. Eating junk food like chips, mcds, candy bars, cokes(aka dirty food) all the time left me feeling tired and even irritable all the time. Fast forward, eating things closer to nature(aka clean food), and often, leaves me feeling full of energy, and so much happier. To me this speaks for itself. To me and so many others, this is the difference between eating clean and eating dirty. Some people want to eat clean, some people want to eat dirty, some in between. Ok. Who cares? To some people the clean/dirty philosophy is a way of life, why bash it? Theres absolutely nothing wrong with it. Now again, this has been my experience with clean/dirty foods. Guess what? It works for me, and many others to. We arnt just talking about weightloss, we're also talking about overall health. Some people prefer to look at the long term. Some people don't wanna chance the FACT that some these unnatural preservatives actually have potential of being DANGEROUS to our health. Some people just like to categorize our food this way... again, guess they're gonna have to get over it.
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Ok. HOLD UP.
There's protein in Twinkies?0 -
Ok. HOLD UP.
There's protein in Twinkies?
Fantastic! I feel better about the two I ate today
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Eating clean: Eating food thats natural, minimally processed.
Eating dirty: Eating food lacking vitamins, with high sugar count, added preservatives, mcdonalds, get the picture?
There really is such thing as eating clean and eating dirty. Get over it. :flowerforyou:
Please explain to me, if you can, what's "dirty" about sugar or preservatives? I don't get the picture. I openly challenge you to explain it to me.
Here's the thing, all the preservatives in foods nowadays, the unnatural additives, the added sugar, you can't even tell me everything these man made ingredients do to our bodies, can you? I'm not to going to go out of my way to fish out studies, I'm just going to share my experiences with food. Eating junk food like chips, mcds, candy bars, cokes(aka dirty food) all the time left me feeling tired and even irritable all the time. Fast forward, eating things closer to nature(aka clean food), and often, leaves me feeling full of energy, and so much happier. To me this speaks for itself. To me and so many others, this is the difference between eating clean and eating dirty. Some people want to eat clean, some people want to eat dirty, some in between. Ok. Who cares? To some people the clean/dirty philosophy is a way of life, why bash it? Theres absolutely nothing wrong with it. Now again, this has been my experience with clean/dirty foods. Guess what? It works for me, and many others to. We arnt just talking about weightloss, we're also talking about overall health. Some people prefer to look at the long term. Some people don't wanna chance the FACT that some these unnatural preservatives actually have potential of being DANGEROUS to our health. Some people just like to categorize our food this way... again, guess they're gonna have to get over it.
Why don't YOU prove it. Thats always the typical defense "prove it" show me the money"...really?? Please stop all ready. There are plenty of studied on why processed, refined foods, sugar additives, access sugar consumption..is not healthy for you. Stop with the whole "the twinkie is so healthy" argument.
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Juicy burger from Mcdonalds? Bleh.0
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Amen! It's "those" people that make me feel guilty because I like to eat. You know what, I've been eating things in moderation and I've been losing. There is no point in cutting everything out of your life because you will relapse at some point and I am doing this as part of the rest of my life, not a temporary fix that as soon as I get to my goal that's it, back to the way I was before! I totally agree with your post and thank you for posting this!0
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If you dropped your hotdog in the sand at the beach, would it not be dirty?0
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If you dropped your hotdog in the sand at the beach, would it not be dirty?
But of course, but I would still call the 5 second rule!! Little dirt never killed anybody.... :drinker:0
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