Why is shirtless running ok only if you "have the right body type"?
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My partner is a 45 year old man who is overweight. He goes train running and if its hot he takes his shirt off. People should do what they are comfortable with.0
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So, it went from 83F to 100F in less than 40 minutes this morning (Las Vegas-aka the half way point between then earth and the sun). There were young men, old men, fit and fat alike, stripping off their shirts during morning jogs today. And one cyclist in a weener beekeener, but a long sleeve sweater, lol.
It never occurred to me that some of those men can be topless, but some should not. Although, I was a touch jealous that as a woman, local laws prevent me from doing the same. Well, unless I had the forethought to apply pasties before my walk; that's legal coverage in LV, lol.7 -
I see shirtless guys running all the time. I've never paid that much attention so it doesn't bother me at all. If it bothers anyone then maybe they need to get a life if they are paying that much attention to someone else.0
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williams969 wrote: »So, it went from 83F to 100F in less than 40 minutes this morning (Las Vegas-aka the half way point between then earth and the sun). There were young men, old men, fit and fat alike, stripping off their shirts during morning jogs today. And one cyclist in a weener beekeener, but a long sleeve sweater, lol.
It never occurred to me that some of those men can be topless, but some should not. Although, I was a touch jealous that as a woman, local laws prevent me from doing the same. Well, unless I had the forethought to apply pasties before my walk; that's legal coverage in LV, lol.
Weener beekeener! LOL with a sweater. Did you get a pic?, people of Las Vegas style!!2 -
mumblemagic wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I don't care if the guy is fat or fit. Put an effing shirt on. You're not at home lounging around half naked, you are out in public.
When i see a shirtless guy jogging around the neighborhood, my first thought is he's thinking "look at me, look at me". Same thing goes for women bouncing around in their tiny sports bra and even smaller shorts.
When i used to walk/jog around the streets i would wear baggy shorts and tshirt, because i have no desire or need to be ogled/validated by passing complete strangers, so i tried to look as daggy and unattractive as possible.
If you don't feel the need to pay attention to strangers, why do you deliberately dress for them? Dressing to un-impress is just as much influenced by them as dressing to impress....
It's a standard humble brag 'I am so hot and beautiful that I must disguise myself in ugly/baggy clothes otherwise every man in the vicinity will be unable to control himself when he sees me running past'.6 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Cutaway_Collar wrote: »It's part of emotional maturity. When you are over 35, you are pretty much in fatherhood territory and you need to set an example and not come across as the show off to passers by especially when there are children, teens and very young women around... Like in their late teens and early 20s.
Because you no longer fit the bill for young and dashing and society looks up to you to set an example. If I were 45 and I had a daughter... I'd never create a chance for her or her peers look at my shirtless body in my effing neighbourhood, and provide room for discussion. It's wrong on so many levels. Yet many dudes do this because they just seek the attention, because age is just a number and emotional maturity is often not proportional to age.
Should men be wearing shirts at a public pool or beach, because of "the children"?
The discussion was about running in public, not being in a place where shirtless is the norm. I agree about the maturity. Certainly, you can say "I don't care what anybody thinks" and do what you want. The problem is that an attitude like that carries over into other aspects of your life. Always better to choose self-discipline. A lack of that is why most of us are here.0 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Cutaway_Collar wrote: »It's part of emotional maturity. When you are over 35, you are pretty much in fatherhood territory and you need to set an example and not come across as the show off to passers by especially when there are children, teens and very young women around... Like in their late teens and early 20s.
Because you no longer fit the bill for young and dashing and society looks up to you to set an example. If I were 45 and I had a daughter... I'd never create a chance for her or her peers look at my shirtless body in my effing neighbourhood, and provide room for discussion. It's wrong on so many levels. Yet many dudes do this because they just seek the attention, because age is just a number and emotional maturity is often not proportional to age.
Should men be wearing shirts at a public pool or beach, because of "the children"?
The discussion was about running in public, not being in a place where shirtless is the norm. I agree about the maturity. Certainly, you can say "I don't care what anybody thinks" and do what you want. The problem is that an attitude like that carries over into other aspects of your life. Always better to choose self-discipline. A lack of that is why most of us are here.
How is wearing a shirt while running a show of self-discipline?
And what aspects of my life should I let be influenced by the opinions of strangers?3 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Cutaway_Collar wrote: »It's part of emotional maturity. When you are over 35, you are pretty much in fatherhood territory and you need to set an example and not come across as the show off to passers by especially when there are children, teens and very young women around... Like in their late teens and early 20s.
Because you no longer fit the bill for young and dashing and society looks up to you to set an example. If I were 45 and I had a daughter... I'd never create a chance for her or her peers look at my shirtless body in my effing neighbourhood, and provide room for discussion. It's wrong on so many levels. Yet many dudes do this because they just seek the attention, because age is just a number and emotional maturity is often not proportional to age.
Should men be wearing shirts at a public pool or beach, because of "the children"?
The discussion was about running in public, not being in a place where shirtless is the norm. I agree about the maturity. Certainly, you can say "I don't care what anybody thinks" and do what you want. The problem is that an attitude like that carries over into other aspects of your life. Always better to choose self-discipline. A lack of that is why most of us are here.
Yes, I agree. And this attitude SHOULD carry over into other aspects of your life. And if you don't like it, tough *kitten*. I have no intention of ever working FOR you. Get over it.1 -
BTW - Some of the attitudes here are the very reason I got my ear pierced and grew my hair in the 80's. It allowed me to quickly identify people I wanted nothing to do with. Too easy.9
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That statement alone shows that you're one of the more critical.angelwowings23 wrote: »Some people don't like to see chunkier people running around jiggling?? I'm not saying this like I care one way or the other. If you are fine with your extra meat flapping around, more power to you. A lot of people are a bit more critical of this sort of display, however. That simple.
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Subjective. I have a "I don't care what anyone thinks" attitude of what people think about me, what I wear, etc. and am very self disciplined.Packerjohn wrote: »Cutaway_Collar wrote: »It's part of emotional maturity. When you are over 35, you are pretty much in fatherhood territory and you need to set an example and not come across as the show off to passers by especially when there are children, teens and very young women around... Like in their late teens and early 20s.
Because you no longer fit the bill for young and dashing and society looks up to you to set an example. If I were 45 and I had a daughter... I'd never create a chance for her or her peers look at my shirtless body in my effing neighbourhood, and provide room for discussion. It's wrong on so many levels. Yet many dudes do this because they just seek the attention, because age is just a number and emotional maturity is often not proportional to age.
Should men be wearing shirts at a public pool or beach, because of "the children"?
The discussion was about running in public, not being in a place where shirtless is the norm. I agree about the maturity. Certainly, you can say "I don't care what anybody thinks" and do what you want. The problem is that an attitude like that carries over into other aspects of your life. Always better to choose self-discipline. A lack of that is why most of us are here.
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Lol, I did the same.BTW - Some of the attitudes here are the very reason I got my ear pierced and grew my hair in the 80's. It allowed me to quickly identify people I wanted nothing to do with. Too easy.
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This is such a bizarre thread. It never even occurred to me to have an opinion on shirtless runners. There were several shirtless older men in the last 5k I ran. I'm in Texas. It's hot. The only concern I really had was avoiding the sweat dripping from them.6
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Cutaway_Collar wrote: »
Oldhound, well said. Totally agree. It carries into other aspects of life.Packerjohn wrote: »Cutaway_Collar wrote: »It's part of emotional maturity. When you are over 35, you are pretty much in fatherhood territory and you need to set an example and not come across as the show off to passers by especially when there are children, teens and very young women around... Like in their late teens and early 20s.
Because you no longer fit the bill for young and dashing and society looks up to you to set an example. If I were 45 and I had a daughter... I'd never create a chance for her or her peers look at my shirtless body in my effing neighbourhood, and provide room for discussion. It's wrong on so many levels. Yet many dudes do this because they just seek the attention, because age is just a number and emotional maturity is often not proportional to age.
Should men be wearing shirts at a public pool or beach, because of "the children"?
The discussion was about running in public, not being in a place where shirtless is the norm. I agree about the maturity. Certainly, you can say "I don't care what anybody thinks" and do what you want. The problem is that an attitude like that carries over into other aspects of your life. Always better to choose self-discipline. A lack of that is why most of us are here.
Oh no...am I in danger or walking into my next staff meeting wearing only a sports bra and shorts? Who knew running could have such tragic consequences!7 -
So what is your opinion of people who dress like Steve Urkel?Cutaway_Collar wrote: »
Oldhound, well said. Totally agree. It carries into other aspects of life.Packerjohn wrote: »Cutaway_Collar wrote: »It's part of emotional maturity. When you are over 35, you are pretty much in fatherhood territory and you need to set an example and not come across as the show off to passers by especially when there are children, teens and very young women around... Like in their late teens and early 20s.
Because you no longer fit the bill for young and dashing and society looks up to you to set an example. If I were 45 and I had a daughter... I'd never create a chance for her or her peers look at my shirtless body in my effing neighbourhood, and provide room for discussion. It's wrong on so many levels. Yet many dudes do this because they just seek the attention, because age is just a number and emotional maturity is often not proportional to age.
Should men be wearing shirts at a public pool or beach, because of "the children"?
The discussion was about running in public, not being in a place where shirtless is the norm. I agree about the maturity. Certainly, you can say "I don't care what anybody thinks" and do what you want. The problem is that an attitude like that carries over into other aspects of your life. Always better to choose self-discipline. A lack of that is why most of us are here.3 -
Alluminati wrote: »
So what is your opinion of people who dress like Steve Urkel?Cutaway_Collar wrote: »
Oldhound, well said. Totally agree. It carries into other aspects of life.Packerjohn wrote: »Cutaway_Collar wrote: »It's part of emotional maturity. When you are over 35, you are pretty much in fatherhood territory and you need to set an example and not come across as the show off to passers by especially when there are children, teens and very young women around... Like in their late teens and early 20s.
Because you no longer fit the bill for young and dashing and society looks up to you to set an example. If I were 45 and I had a daughter... I'd never create a chance for her or her peers look at my shirtless body in my effing neighbourhood, and provide room for discussion. It's wrong on so many levels. Yet many dudes do this because they just seek the attention, because age is just a number and emotional maturity is often not proportional to age.
Should men be wearing shirts at a public pool or beach, because of "the children"?
The discussion was about running in public, not being in a place where shirtless is the norm. I agree about the maturity. Certainly, you can say "I don't care what anybody thinks" and do what you want. The problem is that an attitude like that carries over into other aspects of your life. Always better to choose self-discipline. A lack of that is why most of us are here.
You mean to bowtie and glasses? I know you are not asking me but I really like it!1 -
Cutaway_Collar wrote: »
Oldhound, well said. Totally agree. It carries into other aspects of life.Packerjohn wrote: »Cutaway_Collar wrote: »It's part of emotional maturity. When you are over 35, you are pretty much in fatherhood territory and you need to set an example and not come across as the show off to passers by especially when there are children, teens and very young women around... Like in their late teens and early 20s.
Because you no longer fit the bill for young and dashing and society looks up to you to set an example. If I were 45 and I had a daughter... I'd never create a chance for her or her peers look at my shirtless body in my effing neighbourhood, and provide room for discussion. It's wrong on so many levels. Yet many dudes do this because they just seek the attention, because age is just a number and emotional maturity is often not proportional to age.
Should men be wearing shirts at a public pool or beach, because of "the children"?
The discussion was about running in public, not being in a place where shirtless is the norm. I agree about the maturity. Certainly, you can say "I don't care what anybody thinks" and do what you want. The problem is that an attitude like that carries over into other aspects of your life. Always better to choose self-discipline. A lack of that is why most of us are here.
I can't, no matter how hard I try, figure out how running shirtless or in a sports bra can have a detrimental impact on my life? Like, for realsies? Where is this train of thought going? Like, if I wear a short skirt and a top that, heaven forbid, shows a bit of cleavage because I am blessed with good boobage, am I therefore deserving of negative judgement for that? Smacks of moralistic victim blaming to me. And not the onlooker realising they're the douche they are for this way of thinking. My body, I'll show it or cover it however I damn well choose and what is comfortable within the parameters of the law (which can also be ridiculous but I don't fancy prison as protest).3
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