Why are people so negative regarding clean eating?
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Here is a good example of what I mean from another thread:
"I have a much better idea, skip the overpriced, low quality beach body crap and eat sensibly. That entire post was just a bunch of bull**** with absolutely no basis in reality or science."
In my opinion, this is a clear example of BASHING.
Is beach body even clean eating?
Again, MISSING THE POINT. I am reffering to the negativity towards someone else's attempts to be healthy.
...I thought this was about clean eating.
I'm confused.
No, this post is not just about clean eating. It's people's attitudes.
Oh. Then I have nothing to add.0 -
Here is a good example of what I mean from another thread:
"I have a much better idea, skip the overpriced, low quality beach body crap and eat sensibly. That entire post was just a bunch of bull**** with absolutely no basis in reality or science."
In my opinion, this is a clear example of BASHING.
Is beach body even clean eating?
Again, MISSING THE POINT. I am reffering to the negativity towards someone else's attempts to be healthy.
...I thought this was about clean eating.
I'm confused.
No, this post is not just about clean eating. It's people's attitudes.
yet it is titled 'Why are people so negative regarding clean eating'. . .
I think everyone has an opinion about things and some people fail at conveying those respectfully.....0 -
Here is a good example of what I mean from another thread:
"I have a much better idea, skip the overpriced, low quality beach body crap and eat sensibly. That entire post was just a bunch of bull**** with absolutely no basis in reality or science."
In my opinion, this is a clear example of BASHING.
Is beach body even clean eating?
Again, MISSING THE POINT. I am reffering to the negativity towards someone else's attempts to be healthy.
The negativity towards beach body is well warranted. We've had several "coaches" on here promoting their products against forum rules and telling people they have to eat clean or they'll get sick. Then, after scare mongering, they pitch product. It's dishonest and against the rules.
Ok that may be the case but it's not just on that issue I have seen the negativity, it happens whenever someone disagrees with someone's lifestyle, no matter what it is. Just forget for the moment that what I quoted was beachbody...the point was the way it was said.
You can't have debates without disagreement. If that's what you mean by "negativity" then there isn't a solution, or even a problem that needs a solution. I'm not saying that everyone behaves perfectly all the time but there is a difference between disagreeing with reasoning based on logic and science and scare mongering.0 -
No one cares if you eat clean. People only care when clean eaters insist it's the only way, tell us we're going to get cancer, tell us our insides are awful, roam unsolicited into others diaries and send them jerk face PMs, and attribute their weight loss to clean eating, as opposed to a calorie deficit.
If you wanna eat clean do it. That's great. I eat mostly clean as well. Just don't show up demonizing other foods/styles because if you do that people will let you know that you're wrong, and they'll bring facts and studies and evidence.
This. "Clean eaters" can be just as preachy as vegans and they all drive me nuts.
In my seriously unbiased opinion based on what I read here on these forums, clean eaters get attacked more often than the other way around.
So your saying the IIFYMers (the ones who have no problem with any foods what so ever because they believe if it fits it is fair game) are attacking the clean eaters why exactly??? The only reason they get challenged on these board is when they say their way is the only way and the rest of us that choose to eat anything we want just in moderation will die from cancer, etc... I have been on my journey for 4 years and have lost a few pounds and have gotten PM's from the clean eating crowd telling me because I am eating pop tarts and ice cream that they will out live me and I am killing myself eating that crap, yadda, yadda.... It is ridiculous..... I personally have never once criticized someone for there food choices because I don't view foods in categories of good or bad.... So if I see a post on here telling the masses that clean eating is the only way then I will jump in and give my two cents.....0 -
Here is a good example of what I mean from another thread:
"I have a much better idea, skip the overpriced, low quality beach body crap and eat sensibly. That entire post was just a bunch of bull**** with absolutely no basis in reality or science."
In my opinion, this is a clear example of BASHING.
Is beach body even clean eating?
Again, MISSING THE POINT. I am reffering to the negativity towards someone else's attempts to be healthy.
...I thought this was about clean eating.
I'm confused.
No, this post is not just about clean eating. It's people's attitudes.
Oh. Then I have nothing to add.
I'm kind of an *kitten*, in every day life.
Good for you...I'm sure you are a joy to be around.0 -
Because most people don't have self discipline!!! And just because a person looses weight or are skinny don't make them healthy!!! Good for you for having self discipline and being healthy!!!
Comments like this right here are why I have a problem with it.
I eat mostly whole foods. I do eat some packaged/processed stuff, because it fits my lifestyle, budget and nutritional needs, and makes my tastebuds happy.
My bloodwork is perfect. Heart rate and blood pressure are great. I can run a mile in a little over 7 minutes, and a 5k in about 25 minutes. In weightlifting, everything is in the intermediate to advanced levels. I'm probably healthier than 95% of women my age.
But because I sometimes have Rice A Roni or pizza, I don't have self discipline and good health. Right. :ohwell:0 -
I think it is because they are too lazy to put as much effort into their eating habits. It is easier to bad mouth what they don't understand :-)
Oh no you didn't.0 -
No one cares if you eat clean. People only care when clean eaters insist it's the only way, tell us we're going to get cancer, tell us our insides are awful, roam unsolicited into others diaries and send them jerk face PMs, and attribute their weight loss to clean eating, as opposed to a calorie deficit.
If you wanna eat clean do it. That's great. I eat mostly clean as well. Just don't show up demonizing other foods/styles because if you do that people will let you know that you're wrong, and they'll bring facts and studies and evidence.
This. "Clean eaters" can be just as preachy as vegans and they all drive me nuts.
In my seriously unbiased opinion based on what I read here on these forums, clean eaters get attacked more often than the other way around.
So your saying the IIFYMers (the ones who have no problem with any foods what so ever because they believe if it fits it is fair game) are attacking the clean eaters why exactly??? The only reason they get challenged on these board is when they say their way is the only way and the rest of us that choose to eat anything we want just in moderation will die from cancer, etc... I have been on my journey for 4 years and have lost a few pounds and have gotten PM's from the clean eating crowd telling me because I am eating pop tarts and ice cream that they will out live me and I am killing myself eating that crap, yadda, yadda.... It is ridiculous..... I personally have never once criticized someone for there food choices because I don't view foods in categories of good or bad.... So if I see a post on here telling the masses that clean eating is the only way then I will jump in and give my two cents.....
Hell, I don't know why they attack clean eaters. Why don't you go ask them?
I also don't care, I'm just reporting what I see.0 -
Here is a good example of what I mean from another thread:
"I have a much better idea, skip the overpriced, low quality beach body crap and eat sensibly. That entire post was just a bunch of bull**** with absolutely no basis in reality or science."
In my opinion, this is a clear example of BASHING.
Is beach body even clean eating?
Again, MISSING THE POINT. I am reffering to the negativity towards someone else's attempts to be healthy.
...I thought this was about clean eating.
I'm confused.
No, this post is not just about clean eating. It's people's attitudes.
Oh. Then I have nothing to add.
I'm kind of an *kitten*, in every day life.
Good for you...I'm sure you are a joy to be around.
Actually she is..lol.0 -
Here is a good example of what I mean from another thread:
"I have a much better idea, skip the overpriced, low quality beach body crap and eat sensibly. That entire post was just a bunch of bull**** with absolutely no basis in reality or science."
In my opinion, this is a clear example of BASHING.
Is beach body even clean eating?
Again, MISSING THE POINT. I am reffering to the negativity towards someone else's attempts to be healthy.
The negativity towards beach body is well warranted. We've had several "coaches" on here promoting their products against forum rules and telling people they have to eat clean or they'll get sick. Then, after scare mongering, they pitch product. It's dishonest and against the rules.
Ok that may be the case but it's not just on that issue I have seen the negativity, it happens whenever someone disagrees with someone's lifestyle, no matter what it is. Just forget for the moment that what I quoted was beachbody...the point was the way it was said.
You can't have debates without disagreement. If that's what you mean by "negativity" then there isn't a solution, or even a problem that needs a solution. I'm not saying that everyone behaves perfectly all the time but there is a difference between disagreeing with reasoning based on logic and science and scare mongering.
There is a difference between disagreeing and being an *kitten* about it.0 -
No, this post is not just about clean eating. It's people's attitudes.
I didn't bring enough gum for the whole class.0 -
Here is a good example of what I mean from another thread:
"I have a much better idea, skip the overpriced, low quality beach body crap and eat sensibly. That entire post was just a bunch of bull**** with absolutely no basis in reality or science."
In my opinion, this is a clear example of BASHING.
Is beach body even clean eating?
Again, MISSING THE POINT. I am reffering to the negativity towards someone else's attempts to be healthy.
...I thought this was about clean eating.
I'm confused.
No, this post is not just about clean eating. It's people's attitudes.
Oh. Then I have nothing to add.
I'm kind of an *kitten*, in every day life.
Good for you...I'm sure you are a joy to be around.
I've never been told otherwise, actually.0 -
Here is a good example of what I mean from another thread:
"I have a much better idea, skip the overpriced, low quality beach body crap and eat sensibly. That entire post was just a bunch of bull**** with absolutely no basis in reality or science."
In my opinion, this is a clear example of BASHING.
Is beach body even clean eating?
Again, MISSING THE POINT. I am reffering to the negativity towards someone else's attempts to be healthy.
The negativity towards beach body is well warranted. We've had several "coaches" on here promoting their products against forum rules and telling people they have to eat clean or they'll get sick. Then, after scare mongering, they pitch product. It's dishonest and against the rules.
Ok that may be the case but it's not just on that issue I have seen the negativity, it happens whenever someone disagrees with someone's lifestyle, no matter what it is. Just forget for the moment that what I quoted was beachbody...the point was the way it was said.
You can't have debates without disagreement. If that's what you mean by "negativity" then there isn't a solution, or even a problem that needs a solution. I'm not saying that everyone behaves perfectly all the time but there is a difference between disagreeing with reasoning based on logic and science and scare mongering.
There is a difference between disagreeing and being an *kitten* about it.
By whose standards? there are some very sensitive people that come to the forums. You could just be blunt and straightforward and be accused of being a jerk. It's very sad that unless you have rainbows, hearts, and smiley faces surrounding everything you post, you are considered mean.
Someone disagreeing is very often and very quickly called a troll, bully, mean, etc.
Not just here...these forums are tamed compared to game forums, wedding forums, etc.0 -
No one cares if you eat clean. People only care when clean eaters insist it's the only way, tell us we're going to get cancer, tell us our insides are awful, roam unsolicited into others diaries and send them jerk face PMs, and attribute their weight loss to clean eating, as opposed to a calorie deficit.
If you wanna eat clean do it. That's great. I eat mostly clean as well. Just don't show up demonizing other foods/styles because if you do that people will let you know that you're wrong, and they'll bring facts and studies and evidence.
This. "Clean eaters" can be just as preachy as vegans and they all drive me nuts.
In my seriously unbiased opinion based on what I read here on these forums, clean eaters get attacked more often than the other way around.
I beg to differ that your opinion is unbiased.
Personally, I have never attacked someone for wanting to eat a diet primarily of whole foods and in fact encourage it. I have however been attacked myself on a number of occasions. What I find offensive is 1) the complete lack of basic facts attributed to 'clean eating' whatever that means anyway 2) the insults I have had because I eat ice cream every day 3) the insinuations from the certain 'clean' eaters who say I will get cancer, metabolic disorders etc due to the fact that I do not eat 'clean' all of the time 4) the hypocrisy as I probably hit more of my micros and eat 'cleaner' than many of them who insult me in the first place 5) the incorrect nutritional information thrown out there (like white rice having no nutrients etc) 6) the insulting use of the terms 'junk' and 'garbage' to processed foods 7) the use of ridiculous examples by people who have no understanding of the context of IIFYM or of a balanced diet.
There are situations where I am not in line with other IIFYM'ers however and I do agree that context is often not applied (e.g. for people who have triggers etc) and pop-tarts and ice cream is pushed a lot, however, the point of the posts (or what the point should be) is often missed as the delivery is not ideal.
That's nice.
I am glad you liked it. I would hate for me taking the time to explain my opinion and viewpoint to be dismissed thoughtlessly. :flowerforyou:0 -
Because clean eating is ill defined BS and only actually works when you eat at a deficit.
Example: today I had fast food sweet potato fries. I've been told that this is inherently dirty, but at what point did it become dirty? When the potato was cut? When it was deep fried? When it was slapped into a cardboard carton with a corporate logo? It's a heat treated root veggie with a few extra calories from the cooking method, not the debbil.
Add to that the people who think they'll still lose weight if they habitually go over calories if it's all clean. Multiply that by the people who eat 80% clean, 20% dirty and think this is somehow different from fitting in some treats into a mainly healthy diet. You now have a recipe for torqued off MFPers.0 -
No one cares if you eat clean. People only care when clean eaters insist it's the only way, tell us we're going to get cancer, tell us our insides are awful, roam unsolicited into others diaries and send them jerk face PMs, and attribute their weight loss to clean eating, as opposed to a calorie deficit.
If you wanna eat clean do it. That's great. I eat mostly clean as well. Just don't show up demonizing other foods/styles because if you do that people will let you know that you're wrong, and they'll bring facts and studies and evidence.
This. "Clean eaters" can be just as preachy as vegans and they all drive me nuts.
In my seriously unbiased opinion based on what I read here on these forums, clean eaters get attacked more often than the other way around.
I beg to differ that your opinion is unbiased.
Personally, I have never attacked someone for wanting to eat a diet primarily of whole foods and in fact encourage it. I have however been attacked myself on a number of occasions. What I find offensive is 1) the complete lack of basic facts attributed to 'clean eating' whatever that means anyway 2) the insults I have had because I eat ice cream every day 3) the insinuations from the certain 'clean' eaters who say I will get cancer, metabolic disorders etc due to the fact that I do not eat 'clean' all of the time 4) the hypocrisy as I probably hit more of my micros and eat 'cleaner' than many of them who insult me in the first place 5) the incorrect nutritional information thrown out there (like white rice having no nutrients etc) 6) the insulting use of the terms 'junk' and 'garbage' to processed foods 7) the use of ridiculous examples by people who have no understanding of the context of IIFYM or of a balanced diet.
There are situations where I am not in line with other IIFYM'ers however and I do agree that context is often not applied (e.g. for people who have triggers etc) and pop-tarts and ice cream is pushed a lot, however, the point of the posts (or what the point should be) is often missed as the delivery is not ideal.
That's nice.
I am glad you liked it. I would hate for me taking the time to explain my opinion and viewpoint to be dismissed thoughtlessly. :flowerforyou:
I only return what's been given.0 -
No one cares if you eat clean. People only care when clean eaters insist it's the only way, tell us we're going to get cancer, tell us our insides are awful, roam unsolicited into others diaries and send them jerk face PMs, and attribute their weight loss to clean eating, as opposed to a calorie deficit.
If you wanna eat clean do it. That's great. I eat mostly clean as well. Just don't show up demonizing other foods/styles because if you do that people will let you know that you're wrong, and they'll bring facts and studies and evidence.
This. "Clean eaters" can be just as preachy as vegans and they all drive me nuts.
In my seriously unbiased opinion based on what I read here on these forums, clean eaters get attacked more often than the other way around.
I beg to differ that your opinion is unbiased.
Personally, I have never attacked someone for wanting to eat a diet primarily of whole foods and in fact encourage it. I have however been attacked myself on a number of occasions. What I find offensive is 1) the complete lack of basic facts attributed to 'clean eating' whatever that means anyway 2) the insults I have had because I eat ice cream every day 3) the insinuations from the certain 'clean' eaters who say I will get cancer, metabolic disorders etc due to the fact that I do not eat 'clean' all of the time 4) the hypocrisy as I probably hit more of my micros and eat 'cleaner' than many of them who insult me in the first place 5) the incorrect nutritional information thrown out there (like white rice having no nutrients etc) 6) the insulting use of the terms 'junk' and 'garbage' to processed foods 7) the use of ridiculous examples by people who have no understanding of the context of IIFYM or of a balanced diet.
There are situations where I am not in line with other IIFYM'ers however and I do agree that context is often not applied (e.g. for people who have triggers etc) and pop-tarts and ice cream is pushed a lot, however, the point of the posts (or what the point should be) is often missed as the delivery is not ideal.
That's nice.
I am glad you liked it. I would hate for me taking the time to explain my opinion and viewpoint to be dismissed thoughtlessly. :flowerforyou:
I only return what's been given.
you really dont even debate, just prod
i would suggest everyone not engage with her...does she really even SAY anything?0 -
No one cares if you eat clean. People only care when clean eaters insist it's the only way, tell us we're going to get cancer, tell us our insides are awful, roam unsolicited into others diaries and send them jerk face PMs, and attribute their weight loss to clean eating, as opposed to a calorie deficit.
If you wanna eat clean do it. That's great. I eat mostly clean as well. Just don't show up demonizing other foods/styles because if you do that people will let you know that you're wrong, and they'll bring facts and studies and evidence.
This. "Clean eaters" can be just as preachy as vegans and they all drive me nuts.
In my seriously unbiased opinion based on what I read here on these forums, clean eaters get attacked more often than the other way around.
I beg to differ that your opinion is unbiased.
Personally, I have never attacked someone for wanting to eat a diet primarily of whole foods and in fact encourage it. I have however been attacked myself on a number of occasions. What I find offensive is 1) the complete lack of basic facts attributed to 'clean eating' whatever that means anyway 2) the insults I have had because I eat ice cream every day 3) the insinuations from the certain 'clean' eaters who say I will get cancer, metabolic disorders etc due to the fact that I do not eat 'clean' all of the time 4) the hypocrisy as I probably hit more of my micros and eat 'cleaner' than many of them who insult me in the first place 5) the incorrect nutritional information thrown out there (like white rice having no nutrients etc) 6) the insulting use of the terms 'junk' and 'garbage' to processed foods 7) the use of ridiculous examples by people who have no understanding of the context of IIFYM or of a balanced diet.
There are situations where I am not in line with other IIFYM'ers however and I do agree that context is often not applied (e.g. for people who have triggers etc) and pop-tarts and ice cream is pushed a lot, however, the point of the posts (or what the point should be) is often missed as the delivery is not ideal.
That's nice.
I am glad you liked it. I would hate for me taking the time to explain my opinion and viewpoint to be dismissed thoughtlessly. :flowerforyou:
I only return what's been given.
Awwww...but I gave you a flower and paragraphs and numbered points and shiz!
Edited for a typo0 -
Eat the way that works best for you, and screw the rest of us. If I want to advocate that eating tarter sauce and soda crackers works for me then so be it. Clean eating is an art, most of us want to be temptation throws us off track.
Different strokes ya know.0 -
Here is a good example of what I mean from another thread:
"I have a much better idea, skip the overpriced, low quality beach body crap and eat sensibly. That entire post was just a bunch of bull**** with absolutely no basis in reality or science."
In my opinion, this is a clear example of BASHING.
Is beach body even clean eating?
Again, MISSING THE POINT. I am reffering to the negativity towards someone else's attempts to be healthy.
...I thought this was about clean eating.
I'm confused.
No, this post is not just about clean eating. It's people's attitudes.
Your ability to clearly and accurately title your threads leaves something to be desired. Or you're being dishonest.
Not sure which one... oh wait, yeah I am.0
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