Why are people so negative regarding clean eating?

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

Because most people don't have self discipline!!! And just because a person looses weight or are skinny don't make them healthy!!! Good for you for having self discipline and being healthy!!!

This is why.


That said, I don't see people get "bashed" for eating clean. I see people get "bashed" for making statements like this, especially when in later posts they reveal that they don't eat "clean" all the time either, which just makes it hypocritical.

freebirdjones

Because most people don't have self discipline!!! And just because a person looses weight or are skinny don't make them healthy!!! Good for you for having self discipline and being healthy!!!

^^This statement right here is why 'clean' eaters get attacked on these boards.

Your opinion, someone who eats clean has discipline if they are staying away from trigger foods.

I myself have a varied diet and think because I can have a bite of trigger food and then put it down I have discipline. So it's all opinion. How disciplined are you if there are foods you cant eat because you'll eat the whole box? Id say exercise your muscles but also exercise your willpower too

Also just to note I don't have a side, ELE Everybody Love Everybody so now quit bashing both sides.

mustgetmuscles1

HOLD UP EVERYONE!!! I was reading through and something just caught my eye.



There's a BLUEBERRY Fig Newton? I know there's a strawberry one, but there's a blueberry one too??

Fig Newton!!!! I have not had those in forever.

Is it still a "Fig" Newton if it is blueberry? Would it not then be a blueberry Newton?

jofjltncb6

I think it's the anonymity. People feel they can say anything because they can't/won't be held accountable.

I'm new to clean eating, we are making slow changes to get there. Mostly, I'm realizing that being healthy is about so much more than the number on the scale.

Sending all kinds of positive energy your way.

Perhaps not true for everyone, but I'm *much* snarkier IRL than I am online.

Oh, and in...

...to catch up on this thread to witness this issue being addressed, discussed, and finally resolved.

LiftAllThePizzas

HOLD UP EVERYONE!!! I was reading through and something just caught my eye.



There's a BLUEBERRY Fig Newton? I know there's a strawberry one, but there's a blueberry one too??

Fig Newton!!!! I have not had those in forever.

Is it still a "Fig" Newton if it is blueberry? Would it not then be a blueberry Newton?

No, when logging figs only figs count as figs. When you add blueberries to it, it stops being fig.

whierd

I try not to attack the clean eater zealots, but my personal opinions lie with the IIFYM crowd.

My issue with the clean eating zealots is that the less educated bunch tries to claim that weight and fitness can be achieved SOLELY through this method, regardless of calories eaten, which is scientifically false. Clean eating at a calorie deficit is what causes the weight loss, despite the food eaten.

That being said, I do believe that it is beneficial to have the bulk of your diet containing what people view as clean foods. There are health benefits outside of weight loss and muscle building that less "processed" foods offer. However, foods that are traditionally viewed as "bad" for you are fine in moderation. And when it comes to weight loss, you can have a diet based solely on these "bad" foods and still lose weight.

mustgetmuscles1

HOLD UP EVERYONE!!! I was reading through and something just caught my eye.



There's a BLUEBERRY Fig Newton? I know there's a strawberry one, but there's a blueberry one too??

Fig Newton!!!! I have not had those in forever.

Is it still a "Fig" Newton if it is blueberry? Would it not then be a blueberry Newton?

No, when logging figs only figs count as figs. When you add blueberries to it, it stops being fig.

Logic does not work on me. You are mean! :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :laugh: :drinker:

lpina2mi

In my seriously unbiased opinion based on what I read here on these forums, clean eaters get attacked more often than the other way around.

I agree. Too often when I go to read a board posting about "clean eating" to learn something, it gets hijacked by hate mail. I do not know of the same is true about other nutrition postings--but this kind of thing is obstruction.

It would be better if dissenters avoided postings contrary to their own diet philosophy.

Achrya

In my seriously unbiased opinion based on what I read here on these forums, clean eaters get attacked more often than the other way around.

I agree. Too often when I go to read a board posting about "clean eating" to learn something, it gets hijacked by hate mail. I do not know of the same is true about other nutrition postings--but this kind of thing is obstruction.

It would be better if dissenters avoided postings contrary to their own diet philosophy.

What I read "Well if you don't like what I'm doing then you should just shut up! Who cares if misinformation is being spread and people are driving themselves crazy trying to cut out the food they enjoy? Who are you to offer alternatives? Just SHUT UP!!! WHAAAA"

BrainyBurro

In my seriously unbiased opinion based on what I read here on these forums, clean eaters get attacked more often than the other way around.

I agree. Too often when I go to read a board posting about "clean eating" to learn something, it gets hijacked by hate mail. I do not know of the same is true about other nutrition postings--but this kind of thing is obstruction.

It would be better if dissenters avoided postings contrary to their own diet philosophy.

you can create private groups to discuss whatever you want and you can stamp out all dissenting opinions if you so choose.

however the public forums are public because... you know... they're public. so anyone can make a comment about anything they want.

CoderGal

Maybe it's because some of us are tired of being told that we are "poisoning" ourselves by a bunch of sanctimonious a$$hats when we eat an occasional Lean Cuisine for lunch, that's why.

OR, its because a large proportion of the so-called "clean eaters" on this site still consume processed foods as part of their diets yet maintain their hypocritical stance.

Then again, it could be the misguided assumption by the "clean eating" crowd that all the rest of us do is blithely shove whatever we want down our gullets in some hedonistic ritual to appease the Fast Food Gods, and we would never, EVER consume anything even remotely healthy.

I have no problem whatsoever with clean eating -- to each their own -- but try to force your views on me by telling me that I'm an ignoramus who has no concept of what is healthy and that I will die an early and horrible slow death by "poisoning" myself?

Don't let the door hit ya on the way out....

I like you...... :flowerforyou:

I like the both of you

quirkytizzy

however the public forums are public because... you know... they're public. so anyone can make a comment about anything they want.

Preposterous! Next thing you'll be telling me is that different people think different things. Utter nonsense I say! Utterly!

CyberEd312

Maybe it's because some of us are tired of being told that we are "poisoning" ourselves by a bunch of sanctimonious a$$hats when we eat an occasional Lean Cuisine for lunch, that's why.

OR, its because a large proportion of the so-called "clean eaters" on this site still consume processed foods as part of their diets yet maintain their hypocritical stance.

Then again, it could be the misguided assumption by the "clean eating" crowd that all the rest of us do is blithely shove whatever we want down our gullets in some hedonistic ritual to appease the Fast Food Gods, and we would never, EVER consume anything even remotely healthy.

I have no problem whatsoever with clean eating -- to each their own -- but try to force your views on me by telling me that I'm an ignoramus who has no concept of what is healthy and that I will die an early and horrible slow death by "poisoning" myself?

Don't let the door hit ya on the way out....

I like you...... :flowerforyou:

I like the both of you

:flowerforyou:

DragonSquatter

Moderation is in short supply here, both in opinions and with regards to food.

freebirdjones

dont listen to the bs. men around 10% bf eat mostly clean! of course they treat themselves from time to time. but their cals are so restricted that they cant blow 800 cals on a mcdonalds. unless the are runners and they can eat whatever.

That Jay Cutler eats white rice and rice cakes, and has protein powder, aren't those considered not clean? I don't know what he is if he's a body builder, but he's pretty big and does not eat clean

CoderGal

Maybe it's because some of us are tired of being told that we are "poisoning" ourselves by a bunch of sanctimonious a$$hats when we eat an occasional Lean Cuisine for lunch, that's why.

OR, its because a large proportion of the so-called "clean eaters" on this site still consume processed foods as part of their diets yet maintain their hypocritical stance.

Then again, it could be the misguided assumption by the "clean eating" crowd that all the rest of us do is blithely shove whatever we want down our gullets in some hedonistic ritual to appease the Fast Food Gods, and we would never, EVER consume anything even remotely healthy.

I have no problem whatsoever with clean eating -- to each their own -- but try to force your views on me by telling me that I'm an ignoramus who has no concept of what is healthy and that I will die an early and horrible slow death by "poisoning" myself?

Don't let the door hit ya on the way out....

I like you...... :flowerforyou:

I like the both of you

OUt of context, but i do like your hair.

I'm going to be vain and assume you're talking to me out of the 3 of us since I got my hair done

thanks pu

jayrudq

Really? You haven't spent enough time here. There is the McDonald's crowd. Loud and proud to eat a Big Mac. The "soda" crowd...F you, I lost 300 pounds drinking a 12 a day, the calories in and calories out crowd - eat whatever you want, then binge, opps it is your fault, crowd. And my favorite...the you must be starving yourself, eat more crowd. Yawn...

jonnythan

I just ate 1200 calories of Pop Tarts, ice cream, and Oreos.

If you want to tell me I'm going to get cancer and diabetes and heart disease as a result, keep it to yourself. That's bunk and it's bullying and it's just misinformation.

If you don't want to eat like that then don't. But don't lie to people and telling them eating the kind of food they like is not allowed under penalty of premature death.

jayrudq

Oh, and for those of you I missed, and there are MANY, my apologies.

Achrya

Really? You haven't spent enough time here. There is the McDonald's crowd. Loud and proud to eat a Big Mac. The "soda" crowd...F you, I lost 300 pounds drinking a 12 a day, the calories in and calories out crowd - eat whatever you want, then binge, opps it is your fault, crowd. And my favorite...the you must be starving yourself, eat more crowd. Yawn...

Can I be all four? oh oh can I can I?

CyberEd312

Really? You haven't spent enough time here. There is the McDonald's crowd. Loud and proud to eat a Big Mac. The "soda" crowd...F you, I lost 300 pounds drinking a 12 a day, the calories in and calories out crowd - eat whatever you want, then binge, opps it is your fault, crowd. And my favorite...the you must be starving yourself, eat more crowd. Yawn...

Just for the record I don't drink 12 diet soda a day only 3 but no worries...... :drinker:

jofjltncb6

Really? You haven't spent enough time here. There is the McDonald's crowd. Loud and proud to eat a Big Mac. The "soda" crowd...F you, I lost 300 pounds drinking a 12 a day, the calories in and calories out crowd - eat whatever you want, then binge, opps it is your fault, crowd. And my favorite...the you must be starving yourself, eat more crowd. Yawn...

Can't tell if bitter or just hangry...

LINIA

I've been getting discouraged when I see such negativity on the boards, not just to clean eating but any other eating plan someone doesn't agree with. Everyone is different, and everyone loses weight different ways. One way doesn't work for everyone. Maybe you can lose weight eating poptarts and cake, and I'm sure I could too but I choose not to because I would feel sluggish, lethargic and sick all the time. With clean eating I feel more energetic, less brain fog, I am HAPPIER (And considering I suffer from depression and anxiety, this is awesome) so not everyone is eating clean to lose weight. People seem to forget that.

Dear Baby Angelica,

My reason for joining MFP is so that i can be more aware of eating healthier and i was hoping to bring myself up to having 5 servings of vegetables each day. I would also like to lose 5 or 6 pounds, my current weight is 120. .....i am writing all of this to tell you that you should see/ read the unsolicited advice i get here. From one person to the next, we are all very, very different...our educational levels differ, our ages, some of us have never ever consumed enough food to make us " overweight".

So eat clean, feel better, you know your own body!

BeachGingerOnTheRocks

I didn't have an issue with "clean" as it has been discussed on this board until a day I got attacked. I went in a thread a couple months ago and said something along the lines that I eat a nutrition dense diet with occasional treats if I meet my macros and micros. I got a PM from a clean eating preacher saying I deserved cancer because I was polluting myself. I've been called names, been called a bully, and for what? Posting a pop tart joke and some pics of a bodybuilder eating donuts. Oh and calling out someone for body shaming people who don't eat clean.

Backstory, in the two years before my cancer diagnosis I was a "clean eater" that drove my family nuts with it. I threw out all food that I deemed evil, my kids had ever had a potato chip or sweetened cereal ever. I still got sick. When I started chemo, the doc changed my diet. More grain carbs, fewer veggies. More meats. Less fish and no sushi or mollusks. No grapefruit or beets. I was told to keep sodium up and eat kid foods to fight nausea. It was exactly the opposite of what I would have thought.

I still eat what clean eaters would say is a mostly clean diet, but I do IIFYM and meet my micros almost every day. I have cheat days like today. I have a low body fat, lift weights, have shinier hair than ever, and my oncologist calls me his favorite success story. But I still get told here I'm signing my death warrant.

jayrudq

Really? You haven't spent enough time here. There is the McDonald's crowd. Loud and proud to eat a Big Mac. The "soda" crowd...F you, I lost 300 pounds drinking a 12 a day, the calories in and calories out crowd - eat whatever you want, then binge, opps it is your fault, crowd. And my favorite...the you must be starving yourself, eat more crowd. Yawn...

Can't tell if bitter or just hangry...

Bitter or HANGRY? Spell much?
I am actually neither ( Nie- there), I am quite self-satisfied, like so many on this board.

jayrudq

Sorry, this crap brings out the worst in me. Spelling, who cares?

jofjltncb6

Really? You haven't spent enough time here. There is the McDonald's crowd. Loud and proud to eat a Big Mac. The "soda" crowd...F you, I lost 300 pounds drinking a 12 a day, the calories in and calories out crowd - eat whatever you want, then binge, opps it is your fault, crowd. And my favorite...the you must be starving yourself, eat more crowd. Yawn...

Can't tell if bitter or just hangry...

Bitter or HANGRY? Spell much?
I am actually neither ( Nie- there), I am quite self-satisfied, like so many on this board.

*sigh*

Yes, in fact I do.

I can even spell big words like "portmanteau".

VeinsAndBones

Sorry, this crap brings out the worst in me. Spelling, who cares?

jayrudq

Sorry, this crap brings out the worst in me. Spelling, who cares?

I give! my bad!

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