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Shadowmf023 wrote: »Shadowmf023 wrote: »Well - I've never been to a homeopath. Although I've used homeopathic remedies. Which worked for me. **shrugs**
Exactly the same goes for homeopathy.
Mag Phos tissue salts seems to work fine for pain for me. It's been a life saver when I get headaches or pain in my colon.
I have an ulcer and can't take actual pain medication because it would make the symptoms worse and burn my stomach.
You don't have to believe me. Just stating my personal experience. If they don't work for you, that's fine.
The laws of physics don't magically change depending upon who they're working on.
There is no mechanism by which homeopathy can work. You just felt better due to the placebo effect.9 -
Alternative medicine is dangerous, not only because the 'treatment' doesn't actually do anything but it is done as alternative to medical intervention. So the underlying condition isn’t dealt with. Now if that’s an infection it usually gets better by itself because the immune system is a wonderful thing. Voila ‘it must’ve been the woo’ but, sometimes it causes a fever that causes organ failure however much water you sprinkle that’s not going to get better without antibiotics and intensive care.
Complementary medicine is a slightly different thing as it is taken to complement medicines, so as long as the Doctor is aware (to rule out interactions with medications) there is little harm, and if it makes the person feel better it’s fine. As I said I got given acupuncture for my migraine, I went through the course because it was calm and relaxing, but it did bugger all for my migraine. The medication review and diet analysis under the GP made my migraine less frequent (if anyone wants to claim it was the acupuncture, it wasn’t there was a huge gap between these events)
Adults with capacity can do whatever they want and agree they should have the right to do whatever they want however dumb it seems to the rest of the world. I don’t think they should have the right to cause harm to others (child or not), and Alternative medicine has a great capacity for harm.11 -
As a paediatric oncologist who treats dying children on a daily basis I would be interested in any actual evidence that homeopathy/shamanism/voodoo/the ground up testicle of a squirrel born on the second Sunday of a leap year work.
Ya know. As we may be missing a trick using all these modern medicines and technical advances that continue to improve survival rates.
Idiots.22 -
"Do you know what they call alternative medicine that's been proved to work? Medicine" - Tim Minchin.
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As a paediatric oncologist who treats dying children on a daily basis I would be interested in any actual evidence that homeopathy/shamanism/voodoo/the ground up testicle of a squirrel born on the second Sunday of a leap year work.
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Omg I can't stop laughing after reading the last "treatment".
Funny story about voodoo. About a year ago I responded to a call (medic) for chest pain. When we got there, the patient told us she is having pain because her ex mother in law (who is in a different country) has been putting curses on her and making her sick. My partner and I just looked at each other like "huh?". She demanded we take her to the "religious" hospital in the city so they can remove the curse. When we told her that there is no religious hospital that we know of, she goes "fine take me to the voodoo hospital". My partner had to leave the room because he just started laughing. We brought her to the closest ER where they triaged her to the psych ER.9 -
As a paediatric oncologist who treats dying children on a daily basis I would be interested in any actual evidence that homeopathy/shamanism/voodoo/the ground up testicle of a squirrel born on the second Sunday of a leap year work.
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Omg I can't stop laughing after reading the last "treatment".
Funny story about voodoo. About a year ago I responded to a call (medic) for chest pain. When we got there, the patient told us she is having pain because her ex mother in law (who is in a different country) has been putting curses on her and making her sick. My partner and I just looked at each other like "huh?". She demanded we take her to the "religious" hospital in the city so they can remove the curse. When we told her that there is not religious hospital that we know of, she goes "fine take me to the voodoo hospital". My partner had to leave the room because he just started laughing. We brought her to the closest ER where they triaged her to the psych ER.
I work for a "melting pot" of a company. I used to work the front desk if HR. It was neat how many Haitian ladies had to be called in because they were putting curses on eachother. Some would have to call out because they were literally terrified, and blame others for symptoms they were having which miraculously disappeared after employee relations got involved. Whether you believe in it or not, placing curses falls under "creating a hostile work environment" and your *kitten* WILL be getting a write-up for it.
Just sharing my experience with the dark arts and the power the human mind can have over the body if you believe in something enough.7 -
Yeah, "The Machine that goes PING!" is a big old red flag that you're being scammed. They like to make it look more "sciency" to give themselves legitimacy.3
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This has just reminded me, an FB friend has recently got heavily into essential oils. Fair enough, she uses them for relaxation/sleep aid etc. However, she was flogging this event (she's also a rep, MLM fun) where you could be assessed by one of these machines to tell you what essential oils you should be using. I bit my tongue but was thinking the whole time what a lot of nonsense. And she's an intelligent human being, former primary school teacher. Just goes to show how easily sucked in we as humans can be.6
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VintageFeline wrote: »This has just reminded me, an FB friend has recently got heavily into essential oils. Fair enough, she uses them for relaxation/sleep aid etc. However, she was flogging this event (she's also a rep, MLM fun) where you could be assessed by one of these machines to tell you what essential oils you should be using. I bit my tongue but was thinking the whole time what a lot of nonsense. And she's an intelligent human being, former primary school teacher. Just goes to show how easily sucked in we as humans can be.
I have actually had some success with certain essential oils. Lavender really helps me relax. Add a few drops (since the ones I buy are really concentrated) in a bath, and afterwards I fall asleep easily. I have also had luck with peppermint oil for headaches. I dab a bit on where the headache is and it decreases the pain almost instantly. It really helps my migraines and helps to relieve the pain until medication kicks in.
A machine to tell you which to use??? Yeah that's nonsense.0 -
VintageFeline wrote: »This has just reminded me, an FB friend has recently got heavily into essential oils. Fair enough, she uses them for relaxation/sleep aid etc. However, she was flogging this event (she's also a rep, MLM fun) where you could be assessed by one of these machines to tell you what essential oils you should be using. I bit my tongue but was thinking the whole time what a lot of nonsense. And she's an intelligent human being, former primary school teacher. Just goes to show how easily sucked in we as humans can be.
I have actually had some success with certain essential oils. Lavender really helps me relax. Add a few drops (since the ones I buy are really concentrated) in a bath, and afterwards I fall asleep easily. I have also had luck with peppermint oil for headaches. I dab a bit on where the headache is and it decreases the pain almost instantly. It really helps my migraines and helps to relieve the pain until medication kicks in.
A machine to tell you which to use??? Yeah that's nonsense.
Like I said, the things she uses it for and talks about are all fair enough, mostly similar things to you. It was then taking it too far with the machine assessment that dictates which oils are best for you!1 -
Go see a registered dietitian.2
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As a paediatric oncologist who treats dying children on a daily basis I would be interested in any actual evidence that homeopathy/shamanism/voodoo/the ground up testicle of a squirrel born on the second Sunday of a leap year work.
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Omg I can't stop laughing after reading the last "treatment".
Funny story about voodoo. About a year ago I responded to a call (medic) for chest pain. When we got there, the patient told us she is having pain because her ex mother in law (who is in a different country) has been putting curses on her and making her sick. My partner and I just looked at each other like "huh?". She demanded we take her to the "religious" hospital in the city so they can remove the curse. When we told her that there is no religious hospital that we know of, she goes "fine take me to the voodoo hospital". My partner had to leave the room because he just started laughing. We brought her to the closest ER where they triaged her to the psych ER.
ROFL real The Serpent and The Rainbow stuff there. Funny how you can't curse a non-believer.2 -
VintageFeline wrote: »This has just reminded me, an FB friend has recently got heavily into essential oils. Fair enough, she uses them for relaxation/sleep aid etc. However, she was flogging this event (she's also a rep, MLM fun) where you could be assessed by one of these machines to tell you what essential oils you should be using. I bit my tongue but was thinking the whole time what a lot of nonsense. And she's an intelligent human being, former primary school teacher. Just goes to show how easily sucked in we as humans can be.
I have actually had some success with certain essential oils. Lavender really helps me relax. Add a few drops (since the ones I buy are really concentrated) in a bath, and afterwards I fall asleep easily. I have also had luck with peppermint oil for headaches. I dab a bit on where the headache is and it decreases the pain almost instantly. It really helps my migraines and helps to relieve the pain until medication kicks in.
A machine to tell you which to use??? Yeah that's nonsense.
I use Frankincense oil as a perfume, just roll a little on to my wrists, I picked up a big bottle in Egypt but I'm always on the lookout for more as it won't last forever, but whenever I try and look it up I'm told it'll cure/prevent cancer, boost my immune system and probably buy me a yacht.4 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »As a paediatric oncologist who treats dying children on a daily basis I would be interested in any actual evidence that homeopathy/shamanism/voodoo/the ground up testicle of a squirrel born on the second Sunday of a leap year work.
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Omg I can't stop laughing after reading the last "treatment".
Funny story about voodoo. About a year ago I responded to a call (medic) for chest pain. When we got there, the patient told us she is having pain because her ex mother in law (who is in a different country) has been putting curses on her and making her sick. My partner and I just looked at each other like "huh?". She demanded we take her to the "religious" hospital in the city so they can remove the curse. When we told her that there is no religious hospital that we know of, she goes "fine take me to the voodoo hospital". My partner had to leave the room because he just started laughing. We brought her to the closest ER where they triaged her to the psych ER.
ROFL real The Serpent and The Rainbow stuff there. Funny how you can't curse a non-believer.
Best part was, as we were walking back to the ambulance after dropping her off, the current boyfriend started screaming at us. He goes "you did something wrong!! You had to have said something wrong!! Now they think she is crazy and asking her questions about her mental state." And continued screaming about how her predicament is our fault. We just got in the vehicle without saying anything and left.4 -
VintageFeline wrote: »This has just reminded me, an FB friend has recently got heavily into essential oils. Fair enough, she uses them for relaxation/sleep aid etc. However, she was flogging this event (she's also a rep, MLM fun) where you could be assessed by one of these machines to tell you what essential oils you should be using. I bit my tongue but was thinking the whole time what a lot of nonsense. And she's an intelligent human being, former primary school teacher. Just goes to show how easily sucked in we as humans can be.
I have actually had some success with certain essential oils. Lavender really helps me relax. Add a few drops (since the ones I buy are really concentrated) in a bath, and afterwards I fall asleep easily. I have also had luck with peppermint oil for headaches. I dab a bit on where the headache is and it decreases the pain almost instantly. It really helps my migraines and helps to relieve the pain until medication kicks in.
A machine to tell you which to use??? Yeah that's nonsense.
I use Frankincense oil as a perfume, just roll a little on to my wrists, I picked up a big bottle in Egypt but I'm always on the lookout for more as it won't last forever, but whenever I try and look it up I'm told it'll cure/prevent cancer, boost my immune system and probably buy me a yacht.
Yacht? Now you have my attention! Go on...
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VintageFeline wrote: »This has just reminded me, an FB friend has recently got heavily into essential oils. Fair enough, she uses them for relaxation/sleep aid etc. However, she was flogging this event (she's also a rep, MLM fun) where you could be assessed by one of these machines to tell you what essential oils you should be using. I bit my tongue but was thinking the whole time what a lot of nonsense. And she's an intelligent human being, former primary school teacher. Just goes to show how easily sucked in we as humans can be.
I have actually had some success with certain essential oils. Lavender really helps me relax. Add a few drops (since the ones I buy are really concentrated) in a bath, and afterwards I fall asleep easily. I have also had luck with peppermint oil for headaches. I dab a bit on where the headache is and it decreases the pain almost instantly. It really helps my migraines and helps to relieve the pain until medication kicks in.
A machine to tell you which to use??? Yeah that's nonsense.
I use Frankincense oil as a perfume, just roll a little on to my wrists, I picked up a big bottle in Egypt but I'm always on the lookout for more as it won't last forever, but whenever I try and look it up I'm told it'll cure/prevent cancer, boost my immune system and probably buy me a yacht.
Not sure where you live, but you may want to check occult/pagan/Wicca stores. They typically have pure essential oils. That's where I get mine.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »As a paediatric oncologist who treats dying children on a daily basis I would be interested in any actual evidence that homeopathy/shamanism/voodoo/the ground up testicle of a squirrel born on the second Sunday of a leap year work.
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Omg I can't stop laughing after reading the last "treatment".
Funny story about voodoo. About a year ago I responded to a call (medic) for chest pain. When we got there, the patient told us she is having pain because her ex mother in law (who is in a different country) has been putting curses on her and making her sick. My partner and I just looked at each other like "huh?". She demanded we take her to the "religious" hospital in the city so they can remove the curse. When we told her that there is no religious hospital that we know of, she goes "fine take me to the voodoo hospital". My partner had to leave the room because he just started laughing. We brought her to the closest ER where they triaged her to the psych ER.
ROFL real The Serpent and The Rainbow stuff there. Funny how you can't curse a non-believer.
Best part was, as we were walking back to the ambulance after dropping her off, the current boyfriend started screaming at us. He goes "you did something wrong!! You had to have said something wrong!! Now they think she is crazy and asking her questions about her mental state." And continued screaming about how her predicament is our fault. We just got in the vehicle without saying anything and left.
Of course it's your fault, people with an external locus of control never understand how they contribute to their own issues lol.2 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »This has just reminded me, an FB friend has recently got heavily into essential oils. Fair enough, she uses them for relaxation/sleep aid etc. However, she was flogging this event (she's also a rep, MLM fun) where you could be assessed by one of these machines to tell you what essential oils you should be using. I bit my tongue but was thinking the whole time what a lot of nonsense. And she's an intelligent human being, former primary school teacher. Just goes to show how easily sucked in we as humans can be.
I have actually had some success with certain essential oils. Lavender really helps me relax. Add a few drops (since the ones I buy are really concentrated) in a bath, and afterwards I fall asleep easily. I have also had luck with peppermint oil for headaches. I dab a bit on where the headache is and it decreases the pain almost instantly. It really helps my migraines and helps to relieve the pain until medication kicks in.
A machine to tell you which to use??? Yeah that's nonsense.
I use Frankincense oil as a perfume, just roll a little on to my wrists, I picked up a big bottle in Egypt but I'm always on the lookout for more as it won't last forever, but whenever I try and look it up I'm told it'll cure/prevent cancer, boost my immune system and probably buy me a yacht.
Yacht? Now you have my attention! Go on...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsYoeoEE3ww5 -
VintageFeline wrote: »This has just reminded me, an FB friend has recently got heavily into essential oils. Fair enough, she uses them for relaxation/sleep aid etc. However, she was flogging this event (she's also a rep, MLM fun) where you could be assessed by one of these machines to tell you what essential oils you should be using. I bit my tongue but was thinking the whole time what a lot of nonsense. And she's an intelligent human being, former primary school teacher. Just goes to show how easily sucked in we as humans can be.
I have actually had some success with certain essential oils. Lavender really helps me relax. Add a few drops (since the ones I buy are really concentrated) in a bath, and afterwards I fall asleep easily. I have also had luck with peppermint oil for headaches. I dab a bit on where the headache is and it decreases the pain almost instantly. It really helps my migraines and helps to relieve the pain until medication kicks in.
A machine to tell you which to use??? Yeah that's nonsense.
I use Frankincense oil as a perfume, just roll a little on to my wrists, I picked up a big bottle in Egypt but I'm always on the lookout for more as it won't last forever, but whenever I try and look it up I'm told it'll cure/prevent cancer, boost my immune system and probably buy me a yacht.
Not sure where you live, but you may want to check occult/pagan/Wicca stores. They typically have pure essential oils. That's where I get mine.
Thanks I never thought of that, I'm in London so I'm sure there are plenty around!2 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »As a paediatric oncologist who treats dying children on a daily basis I would be interested in any actual evidence that homeopathy/shamanism/voodoo/the ground up testicle of a squirrel born on the second Sunday of a leap year work.
.
Omg I can't stop laughing after reading the last "treatment".
Funny story about voodoo. About a year ago I responded to a call (medic) for chest pain. When we got there, the patient told us she is having pain because her ex mother in law (who is in a different country) has been putting curses on her and making her sick. My partner and I just looked at each other like "huh?". She demanded we take her to the "religious" hospital in the city so they can remove the curse. When we told her that there is no religious hospital that we know of, she goes "fine take me to the voodoo hospital". My partner had to leave the room because he just started laughing. We brought her to the closest ER where they triaged her to the psych ER.
ROFL real The Serpent and The Rainbow stuff there. Funny how you can't curse a non-believer.
Best part was, as we were walking back to the ambulance after dropping her off, the current boyfriend started screaming at us. He goes "you did something wrong!! You had to have said something wrong!! Now they think she is crazy and asking her questions about her mental state." And continued screaming about how her predicament is our fault. We just got in the vehicle without saying anything and left.
Of course it's your fault, people with an external loci of control never understand how they contribute to their own issues lol.
Lol. I wish I could say that was the strangest call I've responded to, but that would be a lie.
We had one a few months ago that came in as a chest pain. We get upstairs and there is this college aged guy running the flat surface of a tiny Buddha statue on his chest, and it's red from where he was rubbing. My partner and I look at each knowing this is going to be one of those calls lol. I'm better than my partner at not laughing in people's faces so I ask why he called. He goes "my heart is getting bigger and my chest hurts". So we ask how does he know it's getting bigger and he points to the redness and goes "because my skin is getting red and I've been using the statue but just seems to be getting worse." Yeah, no kidding lol. It took a while for us to convince him that no, he is not the grinch, his heart isn't growing and he stopped rubbing the area the redness would go away.2
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