September (2016) Running Challenge
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »I have a question for the group. There's a 5k the night before one of the Half Marathons I am hoping to run next year. That HM will NOT be one in which I am going for a PR. If I sign up for both, I can skip the lottery for the HM and get in automatically. Is this something that is doable?
Considering our city's Army Run did both the same day (considered the Commander's challenge), I don't see a problem with having a night's sleep in between races.0 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »I have a question for the group. There's a 5k the night before one of the Half Marathons I am hoping to run next year. That HM will NOT be one in which I am going for a PR. If I sign up for both, I can skip the lottery for the HM and get in automatically. Is this something that is doable?
Yes. There is a race series here on new years eve that has a 5k beer run at 4:00 pm, then a 5k at 11:45 to run in the new year, followed by a half marathon at 8:00 am. Most of the people run easy for the beer run and new year run, then a bit harder for the half. Few however race for a PR on any of them. For you with a 5k you'd probably even be ok with racing the half if you ran the 5k easy.0 -
Will there be an October Running Challenge??0
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »I have a question for the group. There's a 5k the night before one of the Half Marathons I am hoping to run next year. That HM will NOT be one in which I am going for a PR. If I sign up for both, I can skip the lottery for the HM and get in automatically. Is this something that is doable?
IMO, even if you were going for a PR on the half, the 5K the night before, run very easy, wouldn't hurt a bit if you have the training miles to back it up, which you do. I like to run a couple easy miles the night before a long race anyway, stretching it to 3.1 is not a big deal.0 -
End of month question:
- Complete a sub-2 HM
- Continue to build my base mileage
- Really nail down the 'science' parts of my training (determining my lactate threshold pace/HR, VO2max, HR zones, etc.)
- sub-25:00 5k at the least (I know I have it in me, the first time around when I got into running a few years ago, I PR'd with ~22:00)
- Successfully train to be ready to run (no walking) a full marathon by the end of 2017/beginning of 20181 -
@TattooedDolphinGirl78 @5512bf @7lenny7 Thanks for the input. Registration opens Saturday at 10:00, so I'll sign up for the 2 of them right away.1
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RunRachelleRun wrote: »@Stoshew71 @7lenny7 @WhatMeRunning There was a Strava request by aka emptydog that does not appear to be linked with this group. I'm out of town, on mobile and have not approved nor denied the request. Maybe it's a lone wolf?
I know another mfp user had issues with a person on Strava and don't want to allow that or any other disruptive person to view our runs/activities.
I wonder if we should request an MFP PM or post here to join the group. I joined the Strava mfp cycling group and such request was made to keep the group honestly MFP.
If anyone is harassed by another on Strava through this running group, please let Stan know. Or me, or Lenny, or Chris, but it's Stan's group, He's The Man.
I am pals with emptydog on MFP. He was telling me he journals (in an actual book) all of his runs and asked me how I tracked mine, so I told him about Garmin and Strava and the MFP group on there. Sorry, didn't know you'd need a heads-up!
You should encourage him to actually drop in and say hi to the group.
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kristinegift wrote: »9/1: 4.3 miles
9/2: Rest day
9/3: 9.4 miles
9/4: 5.7 miles
9/5: 6 miles
9/6: 6 miles
9/7: 4 miles
9/8: 3.2 miles with the Thursday crew!
9/9: Rest day
9/10: 5.3 miles
9/11: 13.1 - Via HM
9/12: 3 miles with the Coffee Crew!
9/13: 7.9 miles
9/14: 4.3 miles run commute home
9/15: 7.3 miles run commute to work
........: 6.2 miles with the Thursday crew!
9/16: Rest day
9/17: 8.1 miles with the Saturday crew!
9/18: 11.3 miles (am) + 4.7 miles (pm)
9/19: 6.1 miles
9/20: 4 miles
9/21: 8 miles
........: 4.9 miles
9/22: 6.7 miles
........: 6.4 miles with the Thursday crew!
9/23: Rest day
9/24: 18 miles
9/25: 12 miles
9/26: 6 miles
9/27: 5 miles
........: 5 miles
9/28: 10.1 miles
9/29: 8 miles
I made it through this run by the skin of my teeth. My legs are so tired. I just wanna take my coffee, get into bed, and sleep some more... not go to work. But Adulting must commence!
Run was slow today because the first hour of it was in the dark, my headlamp needs to be replaced with a brighter one, and everything was slick because it has been raining since 1 am (on and off). I kept yelling at cars who were driving with their brights on because COME ON, WE'RE IN TOWN. And I yelled at a guy who did not move over for me on a no-traffic back road, at which point I had to jump over into some wet, icky grass to avoid him. Many *kittens* did come out of my mouth. But seriously; I was wearing a reflective vest and a head lamp... y u no move, car? There was no other traffic, he could have moved to the other lane without issue. So I yelled some choice phrases and then muttered about it for a while. Legs were pretty dead from the Yassos last night, but not sore or achy. I am really looking forward to tonight's group run because that means TOMORROW IS REST DAY!!!!
Upcoming Races:
9/11 LVHN Via Half-Marathon 1:54:54 (for fun; too hot to race)
10/8: Coe College Homecoming 5k (Goal: 21:30 or better)
10/16: Halloween Half-Marathon (Goal: 1:38 or better)
11/20: Philadelphia Marathon (Goal: 3:30 or better)
Your "brave woman" post on strava cracked me up this morning. Hey person ahead with a dorky vest and headlamp on. LOL
Me and this guy Scott in my group always *kitten* about the same thing. There's a 2 lane highway with no one else on the road, and they all insist on taking the inner lane past us. If they do move over, it's like at the last second and by then you are already leaning up on the curb.
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Question: I keep seeing that people are using Strava. I use a Garmin watch and view my data on Garmin Connect. I don't really know anything about Strava. Can anyone share the benefits of using Strava in addition to the Garmin environment? Additional stuff you can do? Etc?
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tparascandola wrote: »Will there be an October Running Challenge??
@tparascandola I will post it later today or tomorrow morning. Just keep checking in this thread. I usually post the link in this thread and the group page on the last day of the previous month (or the day before).
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Sometimes things don't go as planned.
I had a 5.5k trail race last night but after several nights in a row with 4 hours of sleep, I was just too wiped out and wasn't up to it so I skipped it, deciding instead to take Kody out for a short run.
That part went as planned. He and I had a nice 3.7 mile run around the local pond. But...I was feeling great so I dropped him off at home, fed and watered him, then went back out. I chose a route that could easily be stretched out for more miles if I felt up to it, and at every possible turning point, I was still feeling great, so I kept going.
Including the 3.7 with Kody, I ended up with 13.1 miles all run at an easy 10:20 pace (At the very bottom of Zone 2, for you data junkies, sometimes even dipping to the upper end of Zone 1). This is the longest mid-week run I've done.
I made a mistake by wearing my nearly retired ASICS Cumulus shoes. I did have some dull pain in my knee which hasn't been there in a long time but it would come and go and feels fine now. More concerning, after finally making the turn around, my lower right calf muscle...recently strained...started barking at me. Not crazy about that. I had run 11 miles two weeks ago, and 8.6 hilly trail miles last weekend, both without incident, so didn't think 13 would be pushing it.
I have 16.5 miles left of my 100 mile goal. If my calf cooperates I'd like to do 6 tonight and 10.5 tomorrow morning. Family weekend at my son's college this weekend and we'll be too busy for me to get in a run.
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »I have a question for the group. There's a 5k the night before one of the Half Marathons I am hoping to run next year. That HM will NOT be one in which I am going for a PR. If I sign up for both, I can skip the lottery for the HM and get in automatically. Is this something that is doable?
probably doable and sounds like fun.
If I asked someone if signing up for 4 half marathon races on 4 consecutive weekends was a good idea, I probably get a lot of not a good idea responses. But it was fun, got 2 PRs out of it, got a chance to see some new territory (Knoxville, Jack Daniels Distillery, and Cumming Georgia) and the honor to earn a Jupiter moon in Half Maniacs.
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So I'm not going to make my challenge miles this time. I have still run more miles this month than I ever have in my life, which is pretty awesome.
I'll keep the 30 miles as a goal for next month to see if I can get there. Now that it's getting colder and dark earlier, I know I will be fighting myself to go out and run (it was 45 degrees this morning, took a while to get warmed up and I really need to find some gloves to run in.)
There are so many posts in here and I am way behind reading them... but you all are so inspiring and I've learned a lot reading about your experiences and also reading the questions and responses, many thing I wouldn't even know to ask at this point
(for some reason, my ticker isn't registering the 2 miles I did this morning even though I updated it.. so my total right now is 20.84 miles)
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KatieJane83 wrote: »Question: I keep seeing that people are using Strava. I use a Garmin watch and view my data on Garmin Connect. I don't really know anything about Strava. Can anyone share the benefits of using Strava in addition to the Garmin environment? Additional stuff you can do? Etc?
Thanks!
I think GC has improved their site to the point that they are now very similar in capabilities. I just have gotten used to strava more as a social platform and GC as a necessary middle man in getting my data off the watch and automatically over to strava. I don't even check my GC account no more because mostly everyone I know is on strava and communicates on that one instead. I track my shoe mileage on strava because GC used to not be able to do that, but GC did add that feature not too long ago.
There are the groups on strava as well. GC has the capability, but MFP LDR has a strava group, this thread has a strava group, WeRunHuntsville (local organization in my town) has a strava group, and my running group has a strava group. None of which are on GC. Plus I track some of the elite runners that are on strava like Sage Canaday.
Most of the course records holders and leaderboard participants on strava are people that I know or familiar in person who they are. So it's fun to try and beat them or gage how close I do a certain stretch to our local elites.
I guess it comes down to preference. It's so easy to synch your GC account to strava that the question becomes, well why not do it?2 -
End of month question for everyone. What changes, goals do you anticipate seeing in the next year running? Where would you like to be?
@elise4270 my three main goals:
1. Run my first Ultra (planned for late April, a 50K trail race)
2. Finally get to my goal wait after stagnating the last 12 months.
3. Running smarter and not getting injured (that's the tough one)
Regarding Goal #1, I've been waffling of late. I have maybe eight 5Ks, two 10Ks, one HM, and one full marathon under my belt. Should I really be going after an ultra? Probably not but I'm going to anyway, and that may be in direct conflict with Goal #3.2 -
KatieJane83 wrote: »Question: I keep seeing that people are using Strava. I use a Garmin watch and view my data on Garmin Connect. I don't really know anything about Strava. Can anyone share the benefits of using Strava in addition to the Garmin environment? Additional stuff you can do? Etc?
Thanks!
I think GC has improved their site to the point that they are now very similar in capabilities. I just have gotten used to strava more as a social platform and GC as a necessary middle man in getting my data off the watch and automatically over to strava. I don't even check my GC account no more because mostly everyone I know is on strava and communicates on that one instead. I track my shoe mileage on strava because GC used to not be able to do that, but GC did add that feature not too long ago.
There are the groups on strava as well. GC has the capability, but MFP LDR has a strava group, this thread has a strava group, WeRunHuntsville (local organization in my town) has a strava group, and my running group has a strava group. None of which are on GC. Plus I track some of the elite runners that are on strava like Sage Canaday.
Most of the course records holders and leaderboard participants on strava are people that I know or familiar in person who they are. So it's fun to try and beat them or gage how close I do a certain stretch to our local elites.
I guess it comes down to preference. It's so easy to synch your GC account to strava that the question becomes, well why not do it?
Ok cool, thanks!
I like the social aspect of it so I'm gonna give it a shot.
I just requested an add to the MFP Monthly Running Challenge group. Hopefully you recognize my cat face over there, lol, name is Katie Schwinn1 -
End of month question for everyone. What changes, goals do you anticipate seeing in the next year running? Where would you like to be?
Well (comes to no surprise) my first and main goal is to BQ and earn a spot for 2018.
Until the above happens, any goal planning (even next year's race calendar) is in disarray.
Heck that goal has kept me motivated so much with my running that I fear I will give up running all together once I make it (doubtful I actually quit but definitely will lose a carrot to chase).
I may go for a sub 20 5K. Actually I haven't even actually signed up for an official 5K race yet.
Volunteer more. Look into getting my RRCA running coach certification.
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3 miles this morning and a scary experience
Less than a mile in, I was running along peacefully when suddenly I felt something grab both my heels 
No sooner than I could think "what the crap, am I gonna die?" I saw a huge black dog at my hip. Lord have mercy! I didn't hear it running at me so I think it was lying in its yard and grabbed my heels as a warning. It didn't chase or bark or growl. Whew! I guess I just couldn't see a black dog in the darkness. Now I'm thinking about carrying a spray or alarm or get a light so I can scan yards. But geez. Can't I just run in peace? 
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Wow ... short month that started on a rest day and will end on a rest day. There were times that the stretch goal (100) looked a little out of reach!
Congratulations to all you athletes participating this month, and an extra fist bump if you hit your goal!! See you in October!Date Miles MTD ------ ----- ------- Sep 1 0.0 0.0 Sep 2 6.5 6.5 Sep 3 4.3 10.8 Sep 4 5.1 15.9 Sep 6 4.3 20.2 Sep 8 5.1 25.3 Sep 10 8.2 33.5 Sep 11 5.0 38.5 Sep 13 4.3 42.8 Sep 15 5.1 47.9 Sep 17 10.8 58.7 Sep 18 5.1 63.8 Sep 20 4.3 68.1 Sep 21 5.1 73.2 Sep 22 4.3 77.5 Sep 24 6.2 83.7 Sep 26 5.1 88.8 Sep 28 6.3 95.1 Sep 29 5.6 100.7
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@greenolivetree Grabbed by a black dog in the dark?! I'd have passed out and I'd still be out.1
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9/01 ..... 3.2
9/02 ........... Rest
9/03 ..... 3.3
9/04 ........... Rest
9/05 ........... Hiked 6 miles
9/06 ........... Walked 6 miles with a friend
9/07 ..... 2.3 Easy run then walked, DOMS was a little much to ignore
9/08 ........... Rest
9/09 ........... Rest
9/10 ..... 3.2 With DD. She walked a little more than last time but I am still happy with what she put in.
9/11 ..... 5.0 With DH. I was a little surprised with the pace: felt easy at ~10:30 min/mile, it was usually 11-12 for me
9/12 ........... Rest
9/13 ..... 3.1 With DH again. It was later at night and we wanted to get it done. We ended up running more like a tempo speed. I threw in a fast (for me) finish thinking, I probably wouldn't be able to run fast for next few weeks after the blood donation...
9/14 ........... Rest - donated blood today. Will focus on having more iron rich food and hope the run tomorrow would not be too much of a suffering...
9/15 ..... 3.1 Ran too fast in the beginning. I need to work on slowing down again...
9/16 ........... Rest from running. Did some bodyweight strength training again, finally
9/17 ..... 3.3 Family/Group run
9/18 ..... 2.4 Wanted to run 5~6 miles but my legs (mostly left leg) felt really tight which I assumed was from the strength training on Friday and possibly a lot of standing the day before. Half way through, DH wanted to stop and I gladly agreed...
9/19 ........... Rest
9/20 ........... Walked 5 miles
9/21 ........... Rest
9/22 ..... 3.2
9/23 ........... Rest
9/24 ..... 3.3 Family/Group Run
9/25 ........... Too Hot
9/26 ......5.0
9/27 ........... Rest
9/28 ......3.2 + strength train
9/29 ..... 3.1 with DH
Total Miles: 46.6
Nice and cool running weather today. It's a dilemma running with DH: it is nice to run together but he usually runs faster than I would like
Rest day planned for tomorrow, so, this will be my last run of the month and not meeting goal is a reality.
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@greenolivetree Grabbed by a black dog in the dark?! I'd have passed out and I'd still be out.
I literally was thinking "I'm still breathing, my heart is beating, I'm running, I'm not dead!" Apparently not a mean dog but sheesh! Outta nowhere.1 -
End of month question for everyone. What changes, goals do you anticipate seeing in the next year running? Where would you like to be?
- more consistent with running, aiming at consistently over 30 mpw
- more consistent with strength training
- lose 5-10 lbs, would be nice to shave 2 inches off my waistline
Stretched goals:
- winning an age group 5k medal: there is some local races that I may be more likely to get a bronze even in my current condition but DH asked me, "wouldn't you want to get one that you feel like it count?" Ugh, yes. There are two races that I would feel more meaningful, I will need to run 5k in under 23 minutes in those to have a chance. My PR was 26:04 from almost a year ago... not so likely for the coming year.
- sub-2 hour HM, current PR 2:23:54, again, not so likely in a year
@greenolivetree That's scary
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So I have realized that after some life changes I completely forgot to keep up with this. Which is unfortunate because being a runner is something I really want. But instead of just slinking away and not continuing to try, I'm going to give it another go- wish me luck 5
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9/1 - 4 miles. Weather was beautiful! Had to cut it short because I hit snooze too many times.
9/2 - Unplanned rest day. Apparently yesterday's snoozing was due to impending illness. First virus of the new school year.
9/3 - 8.09 mile group run. Again, beautiful weather! Plus, virus seems gone.
9/4 - Normal rest day. Way overate at family picnic.
9/5 - 5.06 miles.
9/6 - Bodypump class, followed by Abs/Core class.
9/7 - 4.03 hot, humid, sticky miles...summer is not over yet!
9/8 - 5.2 miles at Trek/treadmill class.
9/9 - Managed to turn off my alarm and oversleep by 2 hours = no run or spin class
9/10 - 9.4 mile group run. Another gorgeous morning for a run!
9/11 - Insanely busy church/family activity day.
9/12 - 4.7 miles. Getting spoiled by this weather.
9/13 - Life got in the way.
9/14 - 5.08 miles...seriously, this weather is fantastic for running!
9/15 - 4.06 miles. Legs felt like bags of wet sand.
9/16 - Spin Class. Missed it the last two weeks, so it felt difficult in a good way.
9/17 - 3.33 miles. Short run before race tomorrow.
9/18 - 10.15 miles. Capital Pursuit 10-Mile. Love this race! "Serious" runners for the most part, so it tends to be fast. Weather was beautiful, if a bit hot the last two miles. Time about what I expected based on my training level the last few months. Loved it!
9/19 - Rest day. Very sore.
9/20 - 5.05 miles. Beautiful morning.
9/21 - 4.02 humid, sticky miles. Someone forgot to tell Mother Nature that summer's over!
9/22 - 5.02 miles. First day of fall...77° and humid at 5:00 a.m.!
9/23 - Spin Class.
9/24 - 4.75 miles. Was supposed to be 11 mile group run at 6:00, but family life got in the way. By the time I went out, it was 89°...just didn't have it in me.
9/25 - Rest day.
9/26 - 5.02 miles. Gorgeous morning! Fall seems to have arrived!
9/27 - 4.36 miles. Fabulous weather, again!
9/28 - 4.82 miles. GOAL!!
9/29 - Rest Day.1 -
Sept 1-5.9 miles + 0.6 miles with puppy
Sept 2-7.5 miles
Sept 3- 14 hilly miles
Sept 4-rest day-long hike
Sept 5-4.0 miles + 0.6 miles with Stella
Sept 6-8.0 miles w/ cruise intervals
Sept 7- rest day (because I needed it!)
Sept 8- 6 miles hills
Sept 9- 4.4 miles dreadmill speed work AM+ 3.0 miles recovery PM
Sept 10-3.8 miles
Sept 11-11.1 miles
Sept 12-rest the hamstring
Sept 13- 7.0 miles
Sept 14- 4.1 miles
Set 15- rest- hamstring
Sept 16-rest-hamstring
Sept 17 5.0 miles
Sept 18- rest
Sept 19- 7.0 miles
Sept 20-4.0 miles
Sept 21-7.4 miles w/5@ tempo
Sept 22-5 miles recovery run
Sept 23- 8.1 miles Treadmill mixed intervals + 0.5 miles with Stella
Sept 24-4.0 miles easy + 0.8 miles w/ Stella
Sept 25-16 miles fast finish
Sept 26-rest day
Sept 27- 4.5 miles easy
Sept 28-6.2 w/ 4 @ tempo
Question for you all. Does anyone ever get real bad chills after a run? Last night I had a strange episode following my run and I'm not sure what to make about it. I did a 6.2 mile run with middle 4 @tempo pace. Temps were around 64F and damp because it had been raining all day. Run felt fine. Afterwards I got in my car and drove home, changed my clothes, played with my dog for a bit and started making my dinner (about 1 hour). Suddenly, I just felt super cold and began to shiver uncontrollably. I made a cup of tea which did not help. All of my limbs were aching and I could not quit shivering. I took a hot shower for about 25 minutes. I barely had the energy to get dressed and hop into bed. I layed under my covers still shaking and eventually fell asleep. I woke up about two hours later soaking wet. I changed my shirt and went back to bed. I woke up again, soaking wet. Changed again and went back to sleep. This morning I woke up feeling tired, but better. I showered and came to work and I feel fine.
In Dec 2014, while in peak training for a January marathon, I had a similar episode that left me very ill for a week. We were in New York, the day after a 20 miler, when I got the same type of shivers. The next day on the trip home, I got such intense muscle aches that I could barely move. They lasted a week. I went to my doctor and he thought that it was because I needed my immunosuppressant medication. I got the infusion and was eventually fine. In hind sight, I have since speculated that I was actually experiencing the symptoms of acute dehydration. The 20 mile run capping off a peak training weak, followed by one too many cocktails, etc.
The past two weeks have been a a bit crazy for me as well. I got braces on last Monday and have had a good bit of trouble eating. The pain has subsided, but I have not been able to chew real well. I lost 3 pounds since getting them on. I have been trying to drink a lot though. I am wondering if it could be due to lack of proper nutrition or something else involving my teeth or if it was just one of those things. I am not sure if maybe I should take a rest day today. Drinking a Bolthouse Farms Green Goodness shake for some nutrition.
Does anyone have any insight?
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »on a side note, I swear, I'm actually getting more tired from keeping the run slow than when I sped through it. Is this for real, or is it in my head? could it just be that since the time on my feet is longer for the mileage? Interesting things for me to ponder.
Not sure if this is for real or in the head but I totally feel the same way, as if my feet are happier in more or less a tempo speed. I wonder if it has anything to do how the hormones are generated in different running speed.1 -
Your "brave woman" post on strava cracked me up this morning. Hey person ahead with a dorky vest and headlamp on. LOL
Me and this guy Scott in my group always *kitten* about the same thing. There's a 2 lane highway with no one else on the road, and they all insist on taking the inner lane past us. If they do move over, it's like at the last second and by then you are already leaning up on the curb.
@Stoshew71 It's so frustrating! Especially in the dark, you have no idea if the person in the car even sees you because you're squinting against their headlights. But I don't wear all this safety gear for people to ignore it!!End of month question for everyone. What changes, goals do you anticipate seeing in the next year running? Where would you like to be?
Me, back chasing that sub 2 half pain free, strong, having had won the lottery so I can come visit everyone and we can go run and shop for new gear together. a year from now- I'd really like to be at my running goal weight, -10 pounds.
In the next year I want to BQ (this fall) and I am playing with the idea of a 50k in the early summer and a 50 miler NEXT fall. But we'll see if I take to trail running or not. Next spring I want to get to a 1:30-1:32 HM time. No spring marathons for me... taking the HM by the horns instead! I wanna get faster at long distances, but I also want to run longer races. I'm nuts
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@greenolivetree - man, that WOULD be scary. I laughed though at the "what the crap, am I gonna die?" reaction. Good lord, people, don't just let your dogs hang out in the dark (or pretty much any time) unsupervised and free!0
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End of month question for everyone. What changes, goals do you anticipate seeing in the next year running? Where would you like to be?
My goal for a long time has been to get faster, but it is a puzzle I can't seem to solve, and I'm starting to worry that my accumulation of Birthdays is my major problem. I've been very consistent with the MFP Running Challenge group for over a year at 100 miles/month (minus a couple due to injury), so I think I have the mileage base, but I can't crack 8:30/mile very often. With the coming Treadmill Season, I'm going to see if I can do some interval workouts to improve on that.
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