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Sweetener - Good or Bad?
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paperpudding wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »Sugar alcohols?
I don't understand how sugar alcohols would be in sugar-free lollies?
Don't sugar-free lollies have artificial sweeteners instead?
Sugar alcohols are not sugar. This is just a common name they've been given.
They are a lower calorie sugar substitute used in lots of sugar free candies and gums.
ETA: Perhaps you've looked at the ingredients list of your sugar free lollies and seen sorbitol or xylitol on the list. These are two of the most common sugar alcohols.
Again, they're not sugar so they can totally be used in sugar free products.
So, basically what I said in the first place - they give some people diarrhoea while Pepsi Max etc do not because it is a different sort of artificial sweetener.
I wasn't contesting that they cause intestinal distress for some people (they totally do).
I was speaking to your question, "I don't understand how sugar alcohols would be in sugar-free lollies?"0 -
Yes, I know.
Thank you for that.
I asked that after my first post.
My first post was saying artificial sweeteners in lollies give me diahhroea but Pepsi Max etc do not - presumably different sweeteners.
Which was indeed the case.
I think everyone is agreed on that point.0 -
I was pro sweeteners in the past, until somebody told me that sweeteners replace sugar but they increase the cravings for sugary food. I didn't believe that until I stopped with sweeteners and added sugar to coffee, tea and other beverages and food and like magic my cravings for sugar were reduced to 50% or less than before. I say avoid added sugars AND sweeteners totally, you'll soon get used to it and you'll get fewer cravings for ice-cream, cakes, and other sugary bombs.0
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I was pro sweeteners in the past, until somebody told me that sweeteners replace sugar but they increase the cravings for sugary food. I didn't believe that until I stopped with sweeteners and added sugar to coffee, tea and other beverages and food and like magic my cravings for sugar were reduced to 50% or less than before. I say avoid added sugars AND sweeteners totally, you'll soon get used to it and you'll get fewer cravings for ice-cream, cakes, and other sugary bombs.
I get what you're saying, and I agree that if you feel that sweeteners make you crave sweets then you may want to avoid it.
But they don't do that for everyone and they allow many people to enjoy sweetened "treats" in their diet without added calories. For example, I like sweet tea (yes, I'm from the South), and using Splenda instead of sugar means I can enjoy sweet tea from time to time without having to drink my calories. That way, I can spend those calories that I saved on something that I really want later, like beer or ice cream.
And no, I don't eat the ice cream because the Splenda gave me some uncontrollable craving for it. I eat it because I enjoy it, and as long as it fits into my day, it's perfectly fine. Nothing wrong with those things in moderation within the context of an otherwise healthy and varied diet.7 -
Artificially sweetened things don't give me cravings for sweet things. They satisfy a craving if it comes up, but I don't get hungry for sweet things often anymore.3
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I was pro sweeteners in the past, until somebody told me that sweeteners replace sugar but they increase the cravings for sugary food. I didn't believe that until I stopped with sweeteners and added sugar to coffee, tea and other beverages and food and like magic my cravings for sugar were reduced to 50% or less than before. I say avoid added sugars AND sweeteners totally, you'll soon get used to it and you'll get fewer cravings for ice-cream, cakes, and other sugary bombs.
If that is the case for you, yes, probably better for you to avoid them
Myself, like most people, do not have that situation. I no more crave sweet things after diet sodas than I used to after regular sugary sodas.
I just consume less calories.4 -
I was pro sweeteners in the past, until somebody told me that sweeteners replace sugar but they increase the cravings for sugary food. I didn't believe that until I stopped with sweeteners and added sugar to coffee, tea and other beverages and food and like magic my cravings for sugar were reduced to 50% or less than before. I say avoid added sugars AND sweeteners totally, you'll soon get used to it and you'll get fewer cravings for ice-cream, cakes, and other sugary bombs.
This does not happen for me, so I will continue to enjoy my sweeteners and sweets.2 -
I am very against Splenda, sucralose etc. they caused me very bad AFIB for two years. I finally figured it out after tons of unanswered results from heart testing.
I'm just starting to use Stevia. It's a natural sweetener, however, it's still highly processed. Staying with Whole Foods is best for our bodies... sometimes it's better to just have a little sugar in moderation I believe.1 -
So we're claiming that sucralose causes a-fib now?4
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artificial sweeteners caused atrial fibrillation???
that is a new one.
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I don't think your body cares what grocery chain you use.4
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Very very bad. Not only have some been shown to cause cancer (although, I think you need to consume a lot for this to be an issue), but they all impact your insulin sensitivity which makes it more difficult to lose weight in the long run.
I know it's easier said than done, as I've been trying to get rid of my sweet tooth for a long time now (with only partial success), but we shouldn't be consuming sweet things regularly enough for the calories to be of significant difference.
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Very very bad. Not only have some been shown to cause cancer (although, I think you need to consume a lot for this to be an issue), but they all impact your insulin sensitivity which makes it more difficult to lose weight in the long run.
I know it's easier said than done, as I've been trying to get rid of my sweet tooth for a long time now (with only partial success), but we shouldn't be consuming sweet things regularly enough for the calories to be of significant difference.
No. Just wrong. No.3 -
Very very bad. Not only have some been shown to cause cancer (although, I think you need to consume a lot for this to be an issue), but they all impact your insulin sensitivity which makes it more difficult to lose weight in the long run.
I know it's easier said than done, as I've been trying to get rid of my sweet tooth for a long time now (with only partial success), but we shouldn't be consuming sweet things regularly enough for the calories to be of significant difference.
Nope.
I've lost 93 pounds just fine using sweeteners. My insulin sensitivity is just fine.
Also, studies don't bear out what you're saying.5 -
Very very bad. Not only have some been shown to cause cancer (although, I think you need to consume a lot for this to be an issue), but they all impact your insulin sensitivity which makes it more difficult to lose weight in the long run.
I know it's easier said than done, as I've been trying to get rid of my sweet tooth for a long time now (with only partial success), but we shouldn't be consuming sweet things regularly enough for the calories to be of significant difference.
nope. Link?2 -
So why is recommended by the American Diabetics Association as a substitute for sugar?Very very bad. Not only have some been shown to cause cancer (although, I think you need to consume a lot for this to be an issue), but they all impact your insulin sensitivity which makes it more difficult to lose weight in the long run.
I know it's easier said than done, as I've been trying to get rid of my sweet tooth for a long time now (with only partial success), but we shouldn't be consuming sweet things regularly enough for the calories to be of significant difference.
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I just eat real sugar "in moderation" If i want it "I fit it in my calories", "no need to completely eliminate anything"
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Very very bad. Not only have some been shown to cause cancer (although, I think you need to consume a lot for this to be an issue), but they all impact your insulin sensitivity which makes it more difficult to lose weight in the long run.
I know it's easier said than done, as I've been trying to get rid of my sweet tooth for a long time now (with only partial success), but we shouldn't be consuming sweet things regularly enough for the calories to be of significant difference.
Nope. Completely unfounded scaremongering.
Let me guess - this comes from Gary Taubes? Or is it Mercola? I have a hard time keeping all the crackpots straight sometimes.4 -
Very very bad. Not only have some been shown to cause cancer (although, I think you need to consume a lot for this to be an issue), but they all impact your insulin sensitivity which makes it more difficult to lose weight in the long run.
I know it's easier said than done, as I've been trying to get rid of my sweet tooth for a long time now (with only partial success), but we shouldn't be consuming sweet things regularly enough for the calories to be of significant difference.
There is no scientific evidence that sweeteners cause cancer and even less evidence that they impact insulin sensitivity.2
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