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Sweetener - Good or Bad?
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MountainMomma58 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »MountainMomma58 wrote: »NO BASHING PLEASE - I drink SodaStream soda because I can adjust the amount of flavor added. I do not like regular soda because it seems thick and heavy. My preference is diet soda. That being said, there seem to be many more neurological problems through the decades as more and more chemical additives have been added to our food. I eat butter, not margarine (tub of chemicals in my opinion). I do eat other processed foods, but I check the ingredients and go for the lesser of the evil. My opinion is that our bodies are not made to digest chemicals.
This is not true.
What, that our bodies are not meant to digest chemicals?
Everything has chemicals in it. Science 101.3 -
I sure hope you don't eat blueberries, eggs, or passion fruit either. The number of chemicals in those is scary.MountainMomma58 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »MountainMomma58 wrote: »NO BASHING PLEASE - I drink SodaStream soda because I can adjust the amount of flavor added. I do not like regular soda because it seems thick and heavy. My preference is diet soda. That being said, there seem to be many more neurological problems through the decades as more and more chemical additives have been added to our food. I eat butter, not margarine (tub of chemicals in my opinion). I do eat other processed foods, but I check the ingredients and go for the lesser of the evil. My opinion is that our bodies are not made to digest chemicals.
This is not true.
What, that our bodies are not meant to digest chemicals?
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MountainMomma58 wrote: »NO BASHING PLEASE - I drink SodaStream soda because I can adjust the amount of flavor added. I do not like regular soda because it seems thick and heavy. My preference is diet soda. That being said, there seem to be many more neurological problems through the decades as more and more chemical additives have been added to our food. I eat butter, not margarine (tub of chemicals in my opinion). I do eat other processed foods, but I check the ingredients and go for the lesser of the evil. My opinion is that our bodies are not made to digest chemicals.
Your opinion is incorrect.5 -
MountainMomma58 wrote: »NO BASHING PLEASE - I drink SodaStream soda because I can adjust the amount of flavor added. I do not like regular soda because it seems thick and heavy. My preference is diet soda. That being said, there seem to be many more neurological problems through the decades as more and more chemical additives have been added to our food. I eat butter, not margarine (tub of chemicals in my opinion). I do eat other processed foods, but I check the ingredients and go for the lesser of the evil. My opinion is that our bodies are not made to digest chemicals.
Your opinion is incorrect.
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MountainMomma58 wrote: »NO BASHING PLEASE - I drink SodaStream soda because I can adjust the amount of flavor added. I do not like regular soda because it seems thick and heavy. My preference is diet soda. That being said, there seem to be many more neurological problems through the decades as more and more chemical additives have been added to our food. I eat butter, not margarine (tub of chemicals in my opinion). I do eat other processed foods, but I check the ingredients and go for the lesser of the evil. My opinion is that our bodies are not made to digest chemicals.
I would argue that the purpose of your digestion is precisely to break down complex chemical compounds into their more simple chemical components so that they can be utilised by your body for nutrition and energy.
Do agree with eating butter not margarine though - tastes so much better.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »I feel that matters of nutrition, health, fitness, etc are hardly ever that black and white...as with most things in life...
I'm always a little surprised that so many people have such a black and white spectrum of things and miss out on this whole gray/nuanced area which is where most truth's are found.
Good point that this is not a black and white subject.
Artificial Sweeteners May Change Our Gut Bacteria in Dangerous Ways
https://scientificamerican.com/article/artificial-sweeteners-may-change-our-gut-bacteria-in-dangerous-ways/
Artificial sweeteners induce glucose intolerance by altering the gut microbiota
nature.com/nature/journal/v514/n7521/abs/nature13793.html0 -
Iona_EllenRose wrote: »Do you see sweetener as good or bad? Would/Wouldn't you use it? And why?
I don't know enough about the different kind of sweeteners but I just came here to say that SPLENDA IS ATROCIOUS AND IT WILL RUIN YOUR COFFEE.
Peoples' taste buds are different. Splenda doesn't bother me, neither does stevia. I can't stand cumin or cilantro, some people love them.1 -
theycallmenass2013 wrote: »Try xylitol or erythritol. Both are 100% natural, has zero calories, zero GI and are also safe for people with diabetes. Also tooth friendly and helps with weight loss. The only draw back is it is a little pricey but do your shopping on amazon or ebay and you will get a good price.
Xylitol affects my GI tract, erythritol doesn't appear to bother me at all. Other sugar alcohols are even worse, 2-3 pieces of certain sugar-free candies and I'm running to the bathroom.1 -
theycallmenass2013 wrote: »Try xylitol or erythritol. Both are 100% natural, has zero calories, zero GI and are also safe for people with diabetes. Also tooth friendly and helps with weight loss. The only draw back is it is a little pricey but do your shopping on amazon or ebay and you will get a good price.
Xylitol affects my GI tract, erythritol doesn't appear to bother me at all. Other sugar alcohols are even worse, 2-3 pieces of certain sugar-free candies and I'm running to the bathroom.
Sugar alcohols do that to me too to the point I have to avoid them altogether2 -
theycallmenass2013 wrote: »Try xylitol or erythritol. Both are 100% natural, has zero calories, zero GI and are also safe for people with diabetes. Also tooth friendly and helps with weight loss. The only draw back is it is a little pricey but do your shopping on amazon or ebay and you will get a good price.
Xylitol affects my GI tract, erythritol doesn't appear to bother me at all. Other sugar alcohols are even worse, 2-3 pieces of certain sugar-free candies and I'm running to the bathroom.
I'm the exact opposite. I'm fine with xylitol, but erythritol and I don't get along well at all.1 -
My opinion is my opinion, thus not wrong. Many, many articles about what chemicals do to your body, possible effects on the immune system, cancer links, weight gain, fatigue, etc. If you don't believe it, fine.1
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Opinions that differ from the actual facts are in fact, wrong. Sorry.7
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it's Stevia for me all the way.0
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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »theycallmenass2013 wrote: »Try xylitol or erythritol. Both are 100% natural, has zero calories, zero GI and are also safe for people with diabetes. Also tooth friendly and helps with weight loss. The only draw back is it is a little pricey but do your shopping on amazon or ebay and you will get a good price.
Xylitol affects my GI tract, erythritol doesn't appear to bother me at all. Other sugar alcohols are even worse, 2-3 pieces of certain sugar-free candies and I'm running to the bathroom.
I'm the exact opposite. I'm fine with xylitol, but erythritol and I don't get along well at all.
So we all agree they can be both good and bad depending on each person's experience with sweeteners?0 -
You seem to be having a great deal of difficulty separating options from facts.MountainMomma58 wrote: »My opinion is my opinion, thus not wrong. Many, many articles about what chemicals do to your body, possible effects on the immune system, cancer links, weight gain, fatigue, etc. If you don't believe it, fine.
Opinions:- I prefer diet soda.
- I prefer the taste of butter.
"Fact" (heavy emphasis on the quotes):- There seem to be many more neurological problems through the decades as more and more chemical additives have been added to our food.
- What chemicals do to your body, possible effects on the immune system, cancer links, weight gain, fatigue, etc.
Oxymoron: My opinion is that our bodies are not made to digest chemicals.
If you present something as a fact, you better be prepared to back up that statement. With good quality sources and data. Especially in a debate forum.
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The_Enginerd wrote: »
You seem to be having a great deal of difficulty separating options from facts.MountainMomma58 wrote: »My opinion is my opinion, thus not wrong. Many, many articles about what chemicals do to your body, possible effects on the immune system, cancer links, weight gain, fatigue, etc. If you don't believe it, fine.
Opinions:- I prefer diet soda.
- I prefer the taste of butter.
"Fact" (heavy emphasis on the quotes):- There seem to be many more neurological problems through the decades as more and more chemical additives have been added to our food.
- What chemicals do to your body, possible effects on the immune system, cancer links, weight gain, fatigue, etc.
Oxymoron: My opinion is that our bodies are not made to digest chemicals.
If you present something as a fact, you better be prepared to back up that statement. With good quality sources and data. Especially in a debate forum.
The biggest difference between opinions and facts is that you're entitled to your own opinion - but you're not entitled to your own facts.4 -
MountainMomma58 wrote: »My opinion is my opinion, thus not wrong. Many, many articles about what chemicals do to your body, possible effects on the immune system, cancer links, weight gain, fatigue, etc. If you don't believe it, fine.
How are you defining "chemicals" here? Because in that everything is a chemical, I don't get how you can say they are all bad. I mean, some obviously are not, at least in moderation (H2O). Others (arsensic), are, or at least are in much much smaller amounts than with H2O.
As for our bodies not being made to digest chemicals, this sounds a bit like we are getting into religion or at least intelligent design (whether we were made with any purpose is a statement of faith, period, not a fact), but the fact is that (again) EVERYTHING we digest is a chemical.4 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »theycallmenass2013 wrote: »Try xylitol or erythritol. Both are 100% natural, has zero calories, zero GI and are also safe for people with diabetes. Also tooth friendly and helps with weight loss. The only draw back is it is a little pricey but do your shopping on amazon or ebay and you will get a good price.
Xylitol affects my GI tract, erythritol doesn't appear to bother me at all. Other sugar alcohols are even worse, 2-3 pieces of certain sugar-free candies and I'm running to the bathroom.
I'm the exact opposite. I'm fine with xylitol, but erythritol and I don't get along well at all.
So we all agree they can be both good and bad depending on each person's experience with sweeteners?
No. And whatever you're driving at, we're referring to the effect of sugar alcohols. The thread is about other sweeteners like sucralose and aspartame. Asking if they can be both good and bad is silly, because the fact remains that they've been tested and are safe. Facts are objective and not based on personal experience.
Sugar alcohols having a laxative effect is another issue, and I doubt that's what you mean when you say "both good and bad based on each person's experience."7 -
MountainMomma58 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »MountainMomma58 wrote: »NO BASHING PLEASE - I drink SodaStream soda because I can adjust the amount of flavor added. I do not like regular soda because it seems thick and heavy. My preference is diet soda. That being said, there seem to be many more neurological problems through the decades as more and more chemical additives have been added to our food. I eat butter, not margarine (tub of chemicals in my opinion). I do eat other processed foods, but I check the ingredients and go for the lesser of the evil. My opinion is that our bodies are not made to digest chemicals.
This is not true.
What, that our bodies are not meant to digest chemicals?
Yeah, that statement is untrue. Of course our bodies are meant to digest chemicals, the study of metabolism is called biochemistry for a reason.13
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