October (2016) Running Challenge

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  • kristinegift
    kristinegift Posts: 2,406 Member
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    ddmom0811 wrote: »
    @kristinegift - omg that cracked me up. I can't believe it was already 30 in NJ!

    @ddmom0811 It's been very hot and cold (literally). 30F today, but gonna be 58F for my run tomorrow morning -- starting at the same time. Oof!

    katharmonic wrote: »

    @kristinegift I join you in the cold butt season officially beginning. I had hand warmers with me, I should have stuck them in the back of my pants! I think I just thought of a new product - patent pending! Don't steal it!

    @katharmonic Patent pend those suckers and send me a buttload!!
  • vandinem
    vandinem Posts: 550 Member
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    Looks like I will make it to my 100 mile extended goal tomorrow, but I NEED SOME ADVICE.

    My legs just feel dead lately, going on a couple of weeks now. Particularly at the start of the run ... just no bounce, no spring in the stride. After a mile or two in it usually gets a little better, but not a lot. I've been running this mileage consistently for almost 18 months. My diet is pretty good and hasn't changed a lot. It feels like some sort of cumulative fatigue. Have been sticking with Lydiard's Long Slow Run therapy but I'm not noticing improvement.

    I probably need a sensible strategy for running a little less, or fueling my muscles a little better? I could use some suggestions!

    And @Orphia, Great costume!
    Date     Miles      MTD
------   -----    -------
Oct  1     6.2      6.2 
Oct  2     6.5     12.7 
Oct  4     4.3     17.0 
Oct  5     4.3T    21.3 
Oct  8    10.1     31.4 
Oct  9     4.3T    35.7 
Oct 12     4.6T    40.3
Oct 13     5.2T    45.5
Oct 15     6.5     52.0
Oct 16     4.3     56.3
Oct 19     4.3T    60.6
Oct 22     5.3     65.9
Oct 23    11.0     76.9
Oct 25     4.2T    81.1
Oct 26     4.3T    85.4
Oct 27     5.1T    90.5
Oct 29     6.5     97.0

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  • louubelle16
    louubelle16 Posts: 579 Member
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    @Elise4270 @7lenny7 @Stoshew71 and @MNLittleFinn Thanks for that, I don't use Garmin but I will go and set Strava up with all my shoes now. Never occurred to me to check that Strava could do that! Although I am having the Asics confiscated by Father Christmas, who has reimbursed me for the shoes. Will be perfect for new year running when I finally get them :smile:
  • greenolivetree
    greenolivetree Posts: 1,282 Member
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    @vandinem Maybe you just need a big cutback week or even complete rest week. I know- that sucks. Lol OR a little extra sleep or few more calories could help. Just throwing stuff out there :p
  • _nikkiwolf_
    _nikkiwolf_ Posts: 1,380 Member
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    @louubelle16 I use runningahead.com to keep track of my shoes. I log my runs both there and on Strava. Some advantages compared to the Strava shoe tracking are that RA allows you to enter things like "initial mileage" if you've already used the shoe for a while, and details like when you bought the shoes.
    I usually start retiring shoes after about 700km. Not really because it feels like there's anything wrong with them, but because I need an excuse to buy new shoes every now and then o:)

    @Orphia Great parkrun, congratulations! And awesome costume :)

    @OSUbuckeye906 You ran Chicago and Baltimo back to back? Wow! Take care of that shin, a day of rest is better than month of injury.

    @9voice9 Congratulations on the10k PR! Too funny about the "get faster, you are my pacer" lady - I always pick out somebody to follow during a race, and sometimes get upset if they slow down during the last kilometres and I have to find someone new to stalk. Maybe next time I'll just run up to them and tell them to pick up the pace!

    @lissadecker If you want to do a race, don't worry about the speed, just go for it! If you are really worried about your time, you could check last year's results to see what to expect. It always depends a bit on the race crowd where your time will put you: I ran a 5.5km race in September organised by a running club, where a pace of ~9min/mi ment place 49 of 53. The 10km race I did in July had a 5km race as well; I just looked at the results of that one: the same pace would have put me at 123 of 240 there. Not that I minded coming in nearly last in the September race - the people were still nice, and I still got the same free food as everyone else afterwards :wink:

    @katharmonic Is there a picture of the ghost math nerd shirt? It sounds like something I need to buy :smiley:

    @luluinca Take care of that knee. I hope you can get that PT apointment and get some ideas where it could come from. Knee pain after running can be related to all kinds of things, like strength imbalance in the hip area. If you figure out where it comes from, there should be stretches or strength training exercises you can do to prevent the knee pain.

    @Elise4270 You've done an amazing amount of walking this month. Maybe you should tell your DH to run the 5k on crutches, to keep the competition fair? :wink:

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    I never realised how hard it would be to eat so much carbs in a day. I've read numbers like 7-10g of carbs per kg of body weight for carb loading the day before a marathon. Today is actually the first day in quite a while that I'm tracking my food, and I was shocked how hard it is to get 400-600grams of carbohydrates. I've been drinking lots of juice and smoothies and lemonade instead of water, munching a chocolate bar in the car, treating myself to a nutella crêpe after picking up my bib at the race expo, gotten a 6'' sandwich instead of a 3'' one and followed that up with a cookie for desert, and even after all that, I'm barely at the lower limit of that range.

    After two days of rest, I finally got to do a little run today. The training plan said "20 min", so I picked out a 2.5km route. I didn't look at my watch during the run, I wanted it to be nice and easy; I was really surprised when I got home and realised I did the run slightly faster than my planned marathon pace. I didn't remember that pace as being easy - maybe all that rest is really good for something...
    As a nice bonus, this run was just enough to push me past 2000km for the year. That's got to be a good omen, right?
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  • untermrad
    untermrad Posts: 24 Member
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    Thanks everyone for the encouragement.

    I got one of those Milestone Pod things, too, and it offers some decent insight into form.

    @shanaber Wow, what a nasty attitude for a photographer to have!

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    10/1 6.2 (6.2 MTD)
    10/5 6.2 (12.4 MTD)
    10/9 10.0 (22.4 MTD)
    10/11 6.2 (28.6 MTD) (completely miscalculated in previous post, oops)
    10/12 5 (33.6 MTD)
    10/13 6.7 (40.3 MTD)
    10/14 3 easy (43.3 MTD)
    10/15 3 (Stampede for VIPS) according to Strava (46.3 MTD)
    10/16 4 (50.3 MTD)
    10/17 6.2 (56.5 MTD)
    10/19 6.2 (62.7 MTD)
    10/20 2.7 (65.4 MTD)
    10/22 13.2 Urban Bourbon HM (according to Strava) (78.6 MTD)
    10/24 6.2 (84.8 MTD)
    10/25 3.2 (88 MTD)
    10/26 6.4 (94.4 MTD)
    10/27 4.6 (99 MTD)
    10/29 6.6 (105.6 MTD)
    Upcoming races:
    9/10 - Louisville Pure Tap 5k 25:03
    10/1 - Norton Sports Health Great Pumpkin 10k 51:12
    10/15 - Stampede for VIPS 5k 24:16
    10/22 - Urban Bourbon Half Marathon 2:00:04
    11/24 - Hungry Turkey 5k

  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
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    greenolivetree wrote: »
    Ah, this talk of handwarmers and freezing butts! We're hitting 80 here again! Can't wait for the next cool front late next week.

    We hit 100 this week. Today is supposed to be 95. I'm ready for some cooler weather.
  • RespectTheKitty
    RespectTheKitty Posts: 1,667 Member
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    Today was the maiden voyage of my new Garmin Forerunner.

    I really like this thing. I haven't begun to learn all it can do, but the initial test run went very well. I especially like the way it vibrates at each mile. I also learned my VO2 max, which I never knew before.

    OMG OMG OMG I'm so close to 100 miles for the month! Two more runs and I'll hit 100. And as luck would have it, there are two days left in the month. :smile:


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  • katharmonic
    katharmonic Posts: 5,720 Member
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    @_nikkiwolf_ This is the t-shirt I have
    https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=normal+distribution+paranormal+distribution+shirt&safe=active&tbm=shop&spd=12386972452198968514
  • ereck44
    ereck44 Posts: 1,170 Member
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    vandinem wrote: »
    Looks like I will make it to my 100 mile extended goal tomorrow, but I NEED SOME ADVICE.

    My legs just feel dead lately, going on a couple of weeks now. Particularly at the start of the run ... just no bounce, no spring in the stride. After a mile or two in it usually gets a little better, but not a lot. I've been running this mileage consistently for almost 18 months. My diet is pretty good and hasn't changed a lot. It feels like some sort of cumulative fatigue. Have been sticking with Lydiard's Long Slow Run therapy but I'm not noticing improvement.

    I probably need a sensible strategy for running a little less, or fueling my muscles a little better? I could use some suggestions!

    And @Orphia, Great costume!
    Date     Miles      MTD
------   -----    -------
Oct  1     6.2      6.2 
Oct  2     6.5     12.7 
Oct  4     4.3     17.0 
Oct  5     4.3T    21.3 
Oct  8    10.1     31.4 
Oct  9     4.3T    35.7 
Oct 12     4.6T    40.3
Oct 13     5.2T    45.5
Oct 15     6.5     52.0
Oct 16     4.3     56.3
Oct 19     4.3T    60.6
Oct 22     5.3     65.9
Oct 23    11.0     76.9
Oct 25     4.2T    81.1
Oct 26     4.3T    85.4
Oct 27     5.1T    90.5
Oct 29     6.5     97.0

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    Are you making sure that you are replacing your electrolytes? How much sweating are you doing?

    One thing that really helps me after a long run is doing jumping jacks, high knees and butt kicks intervals while walking slowly x 15 minutes after my run. I am doing the 80/20 right now....working on my base...so not really running that fast...mostly at 75-79% max heart rate.
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
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    @Stoshew71 that was an amazing workout! @kristinegift thanks for sharing it I'm thinking about integrating something like that into some long runs as I build toward my marathon
  • Stoshew71
    Stoshew71 Posts: 6,553 Member
    edited October 2016
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    @Orphia Awesome job on your win.

    @9voice9 Awesome job on your PR.

    @vandinem I was also getting the same way. I had a huge cutback week and all slow miles. When I came back off my cutback week, I was watching out that all my slow miles were exactly that. I really concentrated to keep the pace slow. This week, only had 14 miles out of 75 weekly miles that was anything faster that required me to breath hard.

    @MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    and that plan's first long run is 114-1 miles

    Did you type that right? A 114 mile long run?
  • kristinegift
    kristinegift Posts: 2,406 Member
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    Stoshew71 wrote: »


    Anyway, I bit about my run today. It looks like the 80/20 thing is working real good. I had plenty of strength for today's 22 mile long run. Only 6 weeks till RCM. 2 weeks till Huntsville 1/2. In there, I strung together 6 miles of @kristinegift 's Tempo Waves (alternating between GHMP and GMP) and then threw in 2 more miles of GHMP and GMP 1 mi/each towards the end of my run. Thanks for the idea Kristine. Pretty intense workout. It's my biggest LR of the year which put me not only at goal for the month but at 75.2 miles for the week which is a PB in weekly distance.


    @Stoshew71 That's a super impressive workout; I've only done it as an isolated speed session, max 10 miles total, never part of a long run! And you nailed it.
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    edited October 2016
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    @Stoshew71 major typo! Should have said 14--16.. this is why I don't like typing on my phone
  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
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    October Running Totals (miles)
    10/1 – rest day
    10/2 – 0.56 test run (big mistake)
    10/3 – no running day
    10/4 – no running day
    10/5 – no running day
    10/6 – no running day
    10/7 – no running day
    10/8 – no running day
    10/9 – no running day
    10/10 –no running day
    10/11 – 0.55 run/walk intervals
    10/12 – rest day
    10/13 – 0.56 run/walk intervals
    10/14 – rest day
    10/15 – rest day
    10/16 – 0.85 run/walk intervals
    10/17 – rest day
    10/18 – 0.83 run/walk intervals
    10/19 – rest day
    10/20 – 1.17 run/walk intervals
    10/21 – rest day
    10/22 – 1.53 run/walk intervals
    10/23 – 1.52 run/walk intervals
    10/24 – rest day
    10/25 – 1.43 easy
    10/26 – 1.53 easy
    10/27 – 1.42 easy
    10/28 – rest day
    10/29 – 1.82 easy

    October total to date – 13.77

    Nominal Challenge Goal – no stated distance
    Real Goal: Return to regular running

    Today's notes – A few days ago, I got a coating of snow on the grass. Today, it was 60° F (16° C) when I went out to run. After a rest day, I hoped to be able to run 2 miles; 1.82 miles in 15:37 is what the recovering leg was good for. Between the less-short distance and the warm temperature, I had worked up the very beginning of a light sweat. So I figured it was time to stretch like I would if I'd run a real distance, if only to get back in the habit. That, and both my PT and my coach mentioned that lots of stretching is good for recovering from Achilles tendonitis. So I paid extra attention to the calf stretches. They really helped the hurt leg feel better faster, particularly an odd stretch/balance thingy the PT gave me. It's hard, but I'm getting better at it.

    Then, wonder of wonders, it stayed warm and dry enough for me to mow the lawn this afternoon. I hope this is the last time I'll mow this year, and I acted on that hope by running the mower out of gas after I finished and moving the mower and snowblower to their winter positions in the garage. Now it would be nice to get a couple of months between mowing season and snow removal season. I don't think I'll be that lucky.

    Late month observations: My October total miles add up to a reasonable, if not aggressive, long run. Looking at the last week or so, I could claim to have met the goal of returning to regular running; never mind that I was thinking of longer distances when I wrote that goal. I'll have to think about the November goals, but certainly recovery will be the theme.

    2016 races:
    January 1, 2016 Resolution Run 7.5 mile (Mendon, NY) finished in 53:58
    January 9, 2016 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) finished in 1:30:59
    March 12, 2016 Johnny's Runnin' of the Green 5 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 32:32
    March 26, 2016 Spring Forward Distance Run 15K (Mendon, NY) finished in 1:05:24
    April 18, 2016 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:23:01
    April 24, 2016 Flower City Challenge Half Marathon (Rochester, NY) finished in 1:36:50, targeting MP
    May 15, 2016 Highland Hospital Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY) DNS - injury
    June 19, 2016 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY) DNS - recovering from face plant
    July 16, 2016 Shoreline Half Marathon (Hamlin, NY) finished in 1:31:11
    August 13, 2016 Bergen Road Race 5K (Bergen, NY) finished in 19:07 (5K PR)
    September 4, 2016 Oak Tree Half Marathon (Geneseo, NY) finished in 1:31:37
    September 18, 2016 Rochester Marathon (Rochester, NY) DNF a mile from finish
    October 15, 2016 Finish Strong 15K (Hilton, NY) DNS – Achilles tendonitis
    October 22, 2016 Scare Brain Cancer Away 5K (East Rochester, NY) DNS – Achilles tendonitis
    November 24, 2016 Race with Grace 10K (Hilton, NY)
    December 11, 2016 USATF National Club Cross Country Championships 8K (Tallahassee, FL)

    2017 races:
    January 7, 2017 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY)
    April 17, 2017 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA)
  • greenolivetree
    greenolivetree Posts: 1,282 Member
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    4 miles this evening. Stirred up my chest congestion and irritated my throat :s The run went well but the traffic in my town is getting annoying.

    4 miles to go to make my goal of 60 miles.
  • greenolivetree
    greenolivetree Posts: 1,282 Member
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    I also ran smack dab into a tree branch tonight :o:*
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
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    greenolivetree wrote: »
    I also ran smack dab into a tree branch tonight :o:*

    Ouch!

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