WOMEN AGES 50+ FOR OCTOBER 2016

cityjaneLondon

Gloria - I am so in awe of you , taking on your two grandsons at our age. There are bound to be hiccups. I think I had some terrible moments with my boys. We had to all go for family counselling. :embarassed: You are not alone. Sending ((((HUGS)))).

Heather UK

klanders30

gloria wow, I have such respect for the way you are handling this. Stick to your values, boundaries and consistency are so important! The longest year of my life was when we set up very strict rules and consequences, so tough but it worked for our girl. Every family is different and it sure isn't easy, I am pulling for you and your wonderful grandchildren
NYKAREN

lhannon062709

grandmallie

Morning ladies~
I am staggering around with my first cup of tea.. Didnt get much sleep Chester had to go outside to tinkle every couple of hours.. he has 3 prescriptions and one is a pain med, which I just gave him again..
Today is my day off and though I would like to go out and shop I don't feel comfortable leaving Chester alone.. will have to go down to the vets as they forgot to give me one of the antibiotics,Tom working today so he didnt get up with Chester..
will check in later...

spikeyhair

Morning ladies
Still really nice in UK ( where I am anyway ) I love Autumn but look forward to my Christmas break in the sun every year

My new kettlebell was delivered yesterday 13 lbs this morning managed 5 sets 17 reps swings. Quite pleased with myself also did Leslie Sansone with hand weights

Gloria it is hard to stay consistent with kids but so important A lot of younger parents (at least here in UK) dont set boundaries and try to be friends with their kids, they are not doing them any favours. Sorry rant over

Kate UK

janetr7476

Gloria, I agree with the other ladies, you are absolutely awesome. I can't even imagine having children that age and having to deal with rebellion, etc. I'm quite sure I could not manage it at all. Biggest cudos and hugs ever. BTW if I were rich I'd send you to Greece (but you'd have to come back) Some day the boys will realize how very lucky they arr to have you.

Heather, thank you so much. I was beginning to feel a bit of a freak. I'm hoping it totally clears up now and does not return. Good luck on selling your home and finding what will work for you.

Lisa, I think Jack and I are of the same mind as you and your DH. We are thinking a quiet country setting on a couple of acres sounds ideal for us. The bigger plus is being close to his Mom and brother. You are so right that pricing is much more suitable here in MO, however we are looking in extreme southeast MO. We have found the cutest old farm house on two acres nestled in amongest big trees. It was built in 1930 but has been totally rennovated. It also has an oversized two car detached garage that would be perfect for Jack's woodworking shop. There is a big old barn that could house the riding mower, etc. Jack too is very handy, there is not much he can't build and/or repair so he could do what work there is we would like done. Seriously considering the possibility.

Janetr okc

pipcd34

morning peeps and welcome new peeps ! windy and rainy day today

suebdew

Good morning friends. Have a super day. Off to play golf this morning. BBL

SueBDew in TX

1948CWB

Good morning to all!

Janet ~ Sound like you and Jack have found a new nest. From what you say, it would be perfect. So glad the tests came back negative and hope you get well soon.

Glo ~ I can just imagine what life is like managing a child with that disorder 24/7. You are an angel and seem to be making good decisions. Happy the younger GS got his spelling words down. I am awful at spelling and have to constantly look up the correct way to spell words. It's a bit funny because one of my areas of study was English.

Got to go walk the dog and water the seeds...LOL

Carol

KetoneKaren

csofled

Katla49

Gloria in WA: You are a fabulous grandma. Those boys are lucky that you're raising them. Enjoy your wine.

Janetr: The place you're looking at sounds lovely. Good luck with decision-making. I would love a place like that if we moved from here. :flowerforyou:

Pip: Have a good day!


DH has a medical appointment in the Beaverton/Hillsboro traffic hell this morning, but I'm hoping we'll miss rush hour and it won't be bad. He's having an MRI so the doctors can see how things are going with his MS. While we're over there I want to find a shelf for our bedroom thermostat. It used to be screwed to the wall, but had to be repaired because of damage that mounting system did, so we want it on some sort of shelf or shadow box.

Katla in Beautiful NW Oregon

Heather posted a quote similar to this that I wanted to use, but I couldn't recall it quite right. I went online and found this one.

"So many of us believe in perfection, which ruins everything else, because the perfect is not only the enemy of the good; it's also the enemy of the realistic, the possible and the fun."

barbiecat

DJ, my instructions say to ice my back at least three times a day and sometimes I just know icing will make it feel better...I hope you get to the beach...we have a sign that says "If you're lucky enough to live near the water, you're lucky enough"

Heather, a decision to move is huge and expensive...I'm so glad you are taking it slowly and doing a lot of thinking and talking before you make any major decision.

Gloria, I admire you so much for taking on grandchildren to raise...good idea to take a little personal time for introspection.

Alison, hugs to you and Chester

janetr, hope things clear up and your health is back to where it should be....the place you described sounds like paradise.

Pip, I know you hate riding in the rain....we have the same weather over here and I'm hoping to get out for a few minutes for a walk.

Sue in TX, enjoy the golf

Carol, good luck to your seeds

Katla, I hate battling traffic to get to a medical appointment....hope the MRI is useful and that your shopping is successful.

I had a hard time sleeping and had to take pain meds more than once and get the ice pack but now I feel fine. I probably did a bit too much on my feet yesterday. I'll focus on more seated activities today and give myself a break. I am so happy to have my computer back, that I'm sure I'll find things to do with it that will keep me in my chair. There is a big storm coming so I'll try to get my short outdoor walk done this morning.


Barbie from beautiful overcast NW Washington

My word for 2016 is "alacrity"....I will greet all experiences in my life with cheerful readiness

“The secret of contentment is knowing how to enjoy what you have, and to be able to lose all desire for things beyond your reach."-- Yutang Lin


Resolutions for October
*follow the directions of the medical professionals for recovery from surgery
*make daily use of my word for 2016-- "alacrity"....I will greet all experiences in my life with cheerful readiness
*knit three blankets for Project Linus

cityjaneLondon

Hi there!
The photographer came and the estate agent couple, so all went well. My cleaner's MIL died this morning so she didn't come, She didn't come last week either as she was ill, so we had to buckle down and get everything cleaned and tidied. DH also mowed the grass and we put out garden chairs and umbrella. Swept the patio. I kept thinking of all the calories I was burning as I charged around. The pics will look fabulous, I'm sure.

Tomorrow we are lunching out with my brother and sister in law. I also have to ice the christening cake, or at least make a start. I will get the two tiers out of the freezer tonight. Some decorations, bees and ladybugs, that I ordered have not arrived so I may have to craft some bees. For Bea.

I must say it is nice to have a tidy house. :bigsmile: Going to carry on decluttering.

Heather UK

pipcd34

barbiecat wrote: »

DJ, my instructions say to ice my back at least three times a day and sometimes I just know icing will make it feel better...I hope you get to the beach...we have a sign that says "If you're lucky enough to live near the water, you're lucky enough"

Heather, a decision to move is huge and expensive...I'm so glad you are taking it slowly and doing a lot of thinking and talking before you make any major decision.

Gloria, I admire you so much for taking on grandchildren to raise...good idea to take a little personal time for introspection.

Alison, hugs to you and Chester

janetr, hope things clear up and your health is back to where it should be....the place you described sounds like paradise.

Pip, I know you hate riding in the rain....we have the same weather over here and I'm hoping to get out for a few minutes for a walk.

Sue in TX, enjoy the golf

Carol, good luck to your seeds

Katla, I hate battling traffic to get to a medical appointment....hope the MRI is useful and that your shopping is successful.

I had a hard time sleeping and had to take pain meds more than once and get the ice pack but now I feel fine. I probably did a bit too much on my feet yesterday. I'll focus on more seated activities today and give myself a break. I am so happy to have my computer back, that I'm sure I'll find things to do with it that will keep me in my chair. There is a big storm coming so I'll try to get my short outdoor walk done this morning.


Barbie from beautiful overcast NW Washington

My word for 2016 is "alacrity"....I will greet all experiences in my life with cheerful readiness

“The secret of contentment is knowing how to enjoy what you have, and to be able to lose all desire for things beyond your reach."-- Yutang Lin


Resolutions for October
*follow the directions of the medical professionals for recovery from surgery
*make daily use of my word for 2016-- "alacrity"....I will greet all experiences in my life with cheerful readiness
*knit three blankets for Project Linus

Actually I don't mind the rain at all, it's kind of fun really. What I HATE is the wind

GRITSandSLUTSandWINOS

Yesterday this site was giving me problems; it either would not 'post' what I had typed ... or post it 4 or 5 times; and, I could not send any PMs; sorry you had to skip over so many times.

Michelle of NC - Apparently you and yours are 'ok' after then storm as I see that someone has been 'in contact' with you. I did the Richard Simmons VCR; boy it was a workout for me, did not think I had some of the muscles to do it all; but, I did. Right after I was very sore; but, today I am fine. I had to call DirecTV to check out why it would not work; he found the problem and set it up for me. It had not been connected to the right space.

janetr7476 – Glad that all your tests were normal. Well, you will need to ‘up your water’ since you are going to be on steroids for that length of time to keep from getting ‘bloated’ or 'dehydrated'. I know when I have had to be on steroids for only a week that is how I feel. Did he say to come back if it occurs again? Have you tried something ‘new’ that you, maybe, have not been using before? I’m thinking of a different kind of detergent in your wash, or a ‘new’ soap? I have to use a mild soap; and, I can tell when a ‘new’ soap is not working for me. Or eaten something different?

NYKAREN – The weeks have been flying by … seems like suddenly it is ‘hump day’ and now we are on the downside coming up to a weekend. Today I am going to go out and divide 3 of my ferns and put them into 2 baskets. Yesterday I battled with 2 of my Kimberly Queen ferns, I had to have burnt off a lot of calories! Today I will take something out there to drink. I was soaking wet when I came in. A hot shower felt so good, then I started reading for a while. When I go back into town, I will take back all the books and get some new ones. I need to take my laptop fan thing into town to see if they can fix the USB, I’ve broken the wire and the fan is not working on it. I don’t want to burn out another one (laptop, that is).

Joyce – I touched a snake once; they don’t feel like they look. My first cousin was the snake handler at the Atlanta Zoo for ages. He also had his own collect in their basement at home. His Mom and Dad were my favorite aunt and uncle. Virginia would bring me old jewelry she no longer wore and I was always so excite to touch all the ‘charms’ she had on her bracelet. My Mom had a double chain bracelet and it was ‘gold’ and I really played with it a lot; but, the only time she took it off was when she took a shower or was sleeping. She had so many charms that she had started using the 2nd chain on the bracelet. Aunt had a charm that had a $1 bill folded up inside it with a little hammer with it; with the notation “Break in Case of an Emergency. t was so tiny. I ‘think’ my DMS got it (Mother’s).

They shed their skin when they have outgrown them. We will occasionally find one when we are walking. My only contribution to our menagerie in our den is a Diamondback Rattler which I ran over in the road and it was stretched out and was long enough to go over the entire road. Diamondbacks are not usually found roaming around; and, rarely seen around here. We have a lot of Timberback Rattlers; but this one had the ‘diamond shapes’ and my DH had it mounted. DH and DOS thought it had to be a Timberback before they came up to get it off the road. The taxidermist confirmed that it was, indeed, a Diamondback. I called DH from my car and told him I had run over it. A snake is a snake, a dead snake is even better. DH does not want me to kill any of the black snakes because they will eat other snakes. I still don’t like them; but, they are 2nd of scariness thing right behind a spider! If one gets on me, I do my famous snake dance; faster than any Indian (Wahoo) type.

Tracey – Hope you have a great vacation! Being able to see your DH’s twins will be fun. Just watch out for the ‘ex’. I know my DH’s ‘ex’ never like his daughter and my relationship. I was never a ‘mother figure’ to her; she was only 11 years younger than I am; and I was more like a aunt to her or a friend. Sad that we have not seen them in almost 10 years. I think it is sad that we have another granddaughter that we’ll never see (probably). At least your step-daughter is going to allow your DH see the girls.

tammylee83 – I love all the decorating and ‘flip’ shows. I especially like “Fixer Uppers”. I heard just the other day that they don’t even have a TV in their house. They have 4 of the cutest kids and they spend a lot of time with them, showing them all the things they can do around their farm. While I would never change much in my house; but it would be ‘fun’ if I could get some ideas from her. I wonder if they decorate existing houses; all I have ever seen were couples buying houses they come in and change the way they do them. I have always wondered if they do the other rooms in the house; other than the living area, kitchen, or MBR and bath. Or if the furniture in the house is left with (or part of the decorating portion). I know most of it is bought by Joanna or in her shop.

DJ – I have had plants that I never thought would live though a re-pot; but, I divided one of my big ferns and put it in 4 smaller pots; they are ‘beautiful’ now. But, it sure is a lot of work!

Charleen -Bboth my oldest sister and her husband have always worked at the polls in all elections. They love it!

Glo – We have the same problem with DnL#1 and the 3 girls. They are ‘lost’ without their cellphones. I get so irritated because they bring them into a restaurant and check them every few minutes. My rule is, if my DH (their Papa) is going to pay the bill; then phones are not ‘supposed’ to be brought into the restaurant. Once, when DMGD was in 7th grade they took away her cellphone and she absentmindedly held up her fingers and moved them as if she was typing on it. They gave it back to her in 3 days. I thought they should have taken it away for the rest of the year; she maintained a “D” in all classes. Our DOGD told her that she needed to start making ‘good grades’ starting in 8th grade and in HS, they ‘would’ hold her back if she ‘failed’. In 8th grade she was ‘tapped into the Junior Honor Society; and in HS was ‘tapped into the regular Honor Society.

She is a ‘beautiful’ young lady; and, DH and DYS told her that the best way to get ‘even’ with the snobbish kids was to show them that she was not only beautiful; she was smart, too. Now, like our DOGD, she is so focused on making good grades that she works even harder. This year, with ‘new’ teachers they are having a lot more homework in all classes. Do you have you DGSs full-time? We took our boys to be ‘tested’ when they were both in 7th grade. Both of them were way ahead of 7th grade level. DYS went (for a week) to Washington DC for the Duke University’s Talent Identification Program because of Math and Science. He is a Wildlife Biologist and manages a hunting preserve for 5 men. They keep him very busy, especially during hunting season. He really starts working hard on September 1st (a month before hunting season opens a month later) and works hard until a month after the season closes in February. They are now building a ‘duck pond’ and he is overseeing that, too. They’d like to either buy or at least lease the farmer’s land who lets a bunch of men hunt free. They shoot anything that moves. He has put up cameras, to see if they are trespassing on their land, to get a deer who has gone off on it after being shot in the field. They’ll be hell to pay if they are doing that.

DOGD had an interview for an internship; I hope she gets it. She can work up to 30 hours and that is great! Maybe it will turn into a full-time job after she graduated next December. Her boyfriend will graduate this December. He’d really like to go to University of Tennessee; but, the only way to do that would be to go up there and live for a year to prevent having to pay ‘out-of-state’ tuition. I think he has now decided to apply at the Medical College in Augusta. He wants to be a ‘certified’ PT.
Oh, to be brave enough to go off on an adventure and stay!

Janet and Lisa – I fought moving out in the country for years! Wanted boys to go to school in Albany and we only lived about 4 blocks from the HS they went to; but, I love, love, love living out in the country. Never thought I would. DH took my settlement with Medicare to put the down payment on it. Medicare will pay you from the date you are ‘eligible’ until they ‘finally’ get it all done. For us, it took about one year for them to get my SSD all straightened out; and, we had the law office next door to our office do it for us. Did it at the request of my boss; and, walked it through the courts, bypassing the SS Judge, who always denied everybody’s first attempt at getting ‘disability’. Unless, you were ‘in a wheelchair’ or ‘really crazy’ he did not ‘think you were entitled’ no matter the reason. Then his son took over the position and he was even worse. We’d refer to them as the “lesser and least’ SSD Judges. My boss was the one who would finally make the decision on SSD cases.

Lenora

GRITSandSLUTSandWINOS

Marcelynh

Went down to the gym and did my PT exercises there. I figure if I go down there a couple times a week to do them it won't be so hard to go back when I'm cleared for real workouts. It's easy to get out of the habit. So there I am doing my wrist and bicep curls with my massive one pound weight. Everyone is looking at me like I'm nuts. Hey folks, that 1# is PAINFUL! lol There is a reason the physical therapist said no more than a pound.

Marcelyn
bench-pressing a pound in Houston....

grandmallie

afternoon ladies~ im still staggering a bit,but I actually went to the mall for a couple of hours..
there is a place called Boscov's that went in where Penney's was..I got a couple things for me,but got things for Tom too, 4 pair of open bottom sweats for him for 5,99 a piece 3 long sleeve t shirts for work at 3.99 a piece. and a thermal shirt for 4.99 ,mine were more as I am ALOT bigger, but still think I got some good deals.. Chester is laying low. and I am on my 3rd load of laundry because poor Chester tinkled on stuff he shouldn't have..

Katla49

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pipcd34

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jmkmomm

Glo. my youngest brother has a son who has OCD, ADD, ADHD, bi-polar and I am sure some of the other alphabet diagnosis. He always behaved himself in the short times he was with us on their holiday visits. But his OCD was bad enough that both they had to call the cops on both sons, yes the other brother had it. They had to watch their young sons being taken away, sometimes with much force by authorities. Both boys were put into youth facilities but smart enough to behave themselves while there and actually tutor the other boys. Some said that the boys actually didn't have it since they were so good at times. A judge had an independent party do video survelience so they could catch it and it was bad. The youngest is now 20 years old, holds a job at Sonic drive in and has a girlfriend. The older son is 28, in n EMT, never married yet has 4 children. He has deep commitment issues and keeps on breaking up with the same lady and they keep on getting back together. When they break up, she is an awful person, as close to a *kitten* that this innocent woman has known. She is pregnant again and knows it is not my nephews child but he will bring it up as his own. In the meantime he knows that when he leaves for work, that she may be having men over even with the children in the house. One year she put a baby in the closet in the bedroom. One year she claimed she had the flu so she wouldn't be coming here to Evansville for our family Christmas. When he got home, there they were with all the drug paraphenalia and a total mess of an apartment. Well I guess I digressed from my story about my nephews. In the end, the boys grew up, matured some but are legally making money and living on their own. I hope I haven't painted the wrong kind of picture about an adult that ahd OCD as a child. This young man loves family now, loves all his nieces and is a good babysitter. He is overall a good kid. his brother took to drugs to wipe away part of his problems but the moment his first child was born,he was reborn and never wanted to visit the past problem again. And he hasn't. He loves his job as an EMT and the role he plays in his community. Good luck with them. Love does not solve the problem but sure helps get through it. And what works for one may not work for another. It's you, the child and the therapist trying until you find what works for that period in life.

Heather, if your listing agent has a website that we can see yoour home, I am sure I am not the only one who would love to see it.

Going out with my sister. Finally celebrating her birthday that was Sept 7th!

Joyce, Indiana

GRITSandSLUTSandWINOS

We did not really have too many problems with our boys other than the DYS drank a lot. I scared the 'hell-o' out of him one night; and, from that point on, did not have that problem again. He had some marijuana hidden in the house, and a lot more than 'recreational use'. I hid it; and tore his room apart, then short-sheeted his bed. He had snuck out of the house and I got cold and went looking for an open window in the house. He had put pillows on the bed to make it look like he was sleep in bed. Old trick, did not work. He was about to 'burst into tears' when I told him that I had 'flushed his stash' down the toilet. I gave it back to him to 'get it out of the house'. I did not care what he did with it; but, he had 15 minutes to do whatever and be back in the house. I am not so naïve to think that neither of them have ever 'tried' drugs; but, thankfully they never got hooked.

DYS has stopped drinking liquor; and, doesn't drive if he has had too many beers. But, he has loved the way beer tastes since he was about 16- to 18-months old when he sneakily popped the tab on a 64-ounce can of beer so that it would dribble out. Both sons had drunk most of it and were acting really strangely; so I realized they were drunk; put them to bed to sleep it off. DOS woke up with a really bad headache; DYS woke up being himself.

Both boys have turned out to be really great men; and, I am proud of them. I'm sorry for those of you who have had to struggle through problems with your children.

I'm trying to figure out this crazy new system we had put on our TV that is supposed to allow us to watch movies and TV shows at any time; but, it doesn't seem to work how I pictured it, in my mind. We added 'live streaming' to it; but, when I get to what I 'think' I want to watch, it seems to go back to the regular show that is on, at the moment on another channel. GGGRRrrrrr!!!!! This time the technician left a booklet for me that describes how things work. Not making a whole lot of sense to me; but, I have never done well, reading instructions on how to make something work. LOL!!!

Watching all these 'decorating shows' makes me want to do something to our house. Well, I need to go outside and work with my plants if I expect to get any exercise in today.

Lenora

barbiecat

Marcelynh wrote: »

Went down to the gym and did my PT exercises there. I figure if I go down there a couple times a week to do them it won't be so hard to go back when I'm cleared for real workouts. It's easy to get out of the habit. So there I am doing my wrist and bicep curls with my massive one pound weight. Everyone is looking at me like I'm nuts. Hey folks, that 1# is PAINFUL! lol There is a reason the physical therapist said no more than a pound.

Marcelyn
bench-pressing a pound in Houston....

I understand exactly where you are....since my back surgery, I can walk in five minute increments several times a day.....I'm the one who walked for two hours every morning with the dogs and then went to a two hour line dance class...also I was lifting weights at home and now I am limited to 8 pounds. I know that I'm doing the right thing and so do you....congrats on staying with your good habits

Vickil57

Thanks for all the support it helps more then I can express. I am trying to remember the good things and let the rest go.I did talk to my other sister this morning and she said she is co-exector on the will and that the rest of us should have a copy soon. So feel better now. Even tho she lived 4 hours away I really feel the loss hard. One Day at a Time.
One of our DGD's is coming over after I get off work today to spend the night. They do not have school tomorrow. She has been busy looking on u-tube for Halloween DIY projects. So sounds like we will be busy doing them tomorrow. Looking forward to that.
Liz--Keeping you in my prayers.
Found out yesterday that when I was at the doctor's in August the test he did was sent to out of network lab. My bill is for alittle over $1800. I was not happy and sounds like there is a paper I can fill out to take it down to $300. That is the reason I usually do my lab work at the hospital where I work.
Heather--Pray all works out for the postive with this move and being closer to the DGB's.
Charleen--Interesting about the job offers.
Barbie--I know this is hard for you as you are so very active. But does sound like Jake is taking good care of you.
Joyce--thanks for sharing the pictures. Sounds like with all the missteps it was a fun trip and I know I enjoy doing things like that with my DGC.
Janetr--Glad all your test come back negative. I just pray the rash goes away and stays away. It is interesting what our bodies do when under stress.
Gloria--You are doing such a great job with the boys. Remember you are only doing what is best for them.
Take care ladies. Blessings, Vicki GRAND ISLAND, NE

cityjaneLondon

Night night everyone. Early to bed for me. Exhausted.

Love Heather UK

fanncy0626

ilikegardens

skuehn48

Hello all: Supposed to have a big storm coming in. It has been raining since last night. Supposed to have Pip's favorite kind of weather tomorrow, lots of wind. Then both wind and rain on Saturday. They are forecasting trees down and power outages plus some flooding for our area. Hope they are wrong. Had vegetable beef soup yesterday for dinner. I love how it smells when I come in from outside. We may be eating sandwiches the next two days if the power goes out.

Mary - Love that corn maze!!

Janetr - Glad tests came back negative, now just get rid of that rash. I had an aunt and uncle who retired to Pomme de Terre, MO. they loved it there.

Heather - Glad you are getting a handle on what's available in the area you want. I don't think you will regret moving closer to the DGC.

Glo - I am with the others. You are a heroine taking on raising your DGKs.

"Don't ever try to be like anybody else and don't be afraid to take risks." - Waylon Jennings

Take care everyone, Sue in WA

GRITSandSLUTSandWINOS

Vicki - Glad to hear that you and the other siblings will be kept in the loop by the sister who is a co-executor; that helps prevent someone from having a head start of probating the Will.

I know you will miss your Mom a lot; I can remember, after my Mother dying picking up the phone to call and ask her something ... I hung up before it started ringing (or going to a voice mail that the phone had been disconnected). That's weird. My middle sister said she did the same thing. Mother had her own phone at the A.L.F. she was living in, so we could talk to her whenever we wanted. I miss my Daddy (because I was a Daddy's Baby); but, I think I miss Mother more; because she was the one we had most contact with growing up. She was the disciplinarian of the family. So we got punished immediately upon doing something against house rules. There was never any, 'what until your Daddy gets home'. She'd tell him what we had done, and what punishment she had doled out; and, if he wanted to add anything to it, he could. We were never able to play one against the other. I think we all tried; and, then he would ask, 'what did your Mama say'? Then we had to be honest and tell him we had not asked her. Then we'd have to go ask her.

We did pretty much the same with our boys. DH started taking them hunting by the time they were 5 or 6; by the time they were 8, they were driving in the fields; by 9 they were driving on the dirt roads. So when it came time to get their DLs, they already were well-seasoned drivers. I never worried about them.

Lenora