November 2016 Running Challenge
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11/1: 3
11/4: 4.2
11/6: 6
11/8: 3
16.2 of 60
Beautiful little run this morning. It felt great to get out early for a change.
Happy running!2 -
11/1- 4 miles solo plus 1 mile with Stella
11/2- 0.8 miles with Stella (AM)+5 miles lunchtime run
11/3-5 miles AM + 1 mile with Stella
11/4-Rest Day
11/5- 10 miles
11/6-7 miles +1 mile with Stella
11/7-Rest Day
11/8- 5.1 miles solo + 1.1 mile with Stella(who killed it...pace PR for her!)
Lovely AM run. Beautiful fall morning. Even caught a little glimpse of the sunrise before the clouds took over. Did 5.1 easy miles then came home and grabbed Stella for one more. She did so awesome. Even set a PR pace of 8:51 with only one stop to poop (I paused the Garmin, so the pace doesn't include the stop. Hey, she's still a newbie, I have to give her the benefit of the doubt!). Anyway, I am getting to the point where I enjoy that run with Stella more than running alone and I look forward to it through my whole run. It's a nice motivator. Hoping to add another quarter mile to our route next week. She definitely does better when she knows where we are going. If my neighborhood wasn't so full of shout cul de sacs, I think we could really get something going!
@MNLittleFinn - I also jog back down the hills but that is only because my legs tend to do better if they stay in the running rhythm. The do not like the idea of run/walk. But that is all just personal preference. As long as your HR drops back down into zone 1, which is easy to do with a longer hill, you are getting the benefit of the workout. Also, congrats on the mile PR! That's what all of that slow running will do for you!
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November goal: 75 miles
11/1: 3 miles (m)
11/2: Rest Day
11/3: 3 miles
11/4: 3 miles (m)
11/5: 3 miles
11/6: 2.75 miles
11/7: 3 miles (m)
11/8: 3 miles
My Total/November: 20.75 miles
Mike's Total: 9 miles
Uneventful run this morning with Fergus. The weather was just a little cool and misty; just the way I like my fall mornings. Started off at a very slow pace for the first mile and then picked it up for the last two. Overall I felt good. No major aches or pains. The right hamstring felt a bit strained at about one and a half miles, but seemed to be fine after a short bit and gave me no more trouble the rest of the way.
@OSUbuckeye906 I'm glad you are safe and that you reported the incident. I would have been really freaked out by that. Since I run mostly in the early morning, the time change actually worked in my favor as I am able to hit the greenbelts earlier now and will be able to go longer before work if I want to. On the downside, this means that it is darker for my evening walks which I now do less of on the greenbelt and more of on the lit roads. I must say though, there are no sidewalks where I live, so you have to pretty much walk in the street. With the way folks drive, I am not entirely sure it is much safer walking the streets than it is the greenbelt in the dark. At least you can see the cars coming, though.
@katharmonic Close call with the skunk! Now that you mention it, I don't think I have ever seen a skunk around here. I know that we have them. I guess I will just consider myself lucky that I haven't run into one.
@greenolivetree I am so glad that you had a good run! Seems like you needed it.
@Orphia I'm happy that your run went well. Thanks for the video. I suspected that this might be the case. I have been trying a few of the dynamic stretches and plan to incorporate more before my running. My knees aren't strong enough for lunges, but I can do most of those other moves. I will try incorporating some after my bike ride and before my running...and especially on days when I don't ride first.
Have a great day everyone!
Upcoming Race:
12/3 Snowball Run 5K, Kingwood TX
Yay! My ticker is working again!
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@lporter229 Thanks. It's nice to see that the result of the slow running paying off. It also just encourages me to keep slow, which is why I'm thinking about just doing a fast mile at the end of a run each week, just to get the need for speed and work some speed back into things slowly.0
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@MNLittleFinn For hill training, I prefer a light jog down the hill, but only because it's actually easier on my body. I'm one of those weirdos who loves running downhill. And, congrats on your mile PR!
@OSUbuckeye906 Wow, scary! Stay safe! My friends and I run a path behind an old state mental hospital at night - night being 6:30 pm in the fall/winter months. We always run in a group, with a rule that no one gets left by themselves and everyone carries a phone. Some of the old hospital buildings are now halfway houses for recovering addicts/alcoholics, so we've seen sketchy people along the path.
To add to the freaky factor, there is a "cat village" in the trees - people have caught feral cats, had them spayed/neutered, and re-released them. The village is a grouping of cat houses back in the trees, where people leave food, water, and toys for the cats. So, when running around there at night, we always catch a glimpse of cat eyes in our headlamps.
Writing the above, I'm questioning yet again why in the heck we run there after daylight at all!!
@vcuellar21 Welcome!
I was only able to run a tiny bit, since we've had to move our Girls on the Run practice indoors due to loss of daylight. We start at 5:30 pm and it was pitch black last night. We didn't worry about rounding up headlights for everyone since it was our last running practice. The last two meetings will consist of a service project and our season-end celebration. The season has gone fast and I can't wait to see how the girls do at the big 5k this weekend!
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I ordered a subscription to Runner's World from my son's school fundraiser, and my first issue arrived yesterday. That was really fun to read, very inspiring.
I'm still running, but my depression is really kicking my butt. It's hard to function right now. I just came back to work after a week long vacation and it's been really difficult getting adjusted. Pretty much the only time I feel even remotely okay is when I'm running, which is why I'm not going to give up on that. And with the time change, and it getting dark super early, it's going to make things even harder. I'll be doing a lot of treadmill running for a while.
I'm thinking about the Turkey Trot I signed up for later this month, and I'm starting to chicken out. I want to skip it. I'm afraid of the crowds, and running on an unfamiliar course. But mostly it's the depression telling me I'm not good enough to run in a race like this, that I'd be better off just running on my own.
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so, zulily has smartwool on sale, and they have compression socks/sleeves. Looking at the socks, they only have 1 size too small, I need a medium for socks, but the sleeves I could potentially get in small (11.5-14.5) or medium (12.5-16.5). Sale price is $18 as opposed to $35 for the sleeves or $18 as opposed to $38 for the socks. Do I go for one or the other?1
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RespectTheKitty wrote: »I ordered a subscription to Runner's World from my son's school fundraiser, and my first issue arrived yesterday. That was really fun to read, very inspiring.
I'm still running, but my depression is really kicking my butt. It's hard to function right now. I just came back to work after a week long vacation and it's been really difficult getting adjusted. Pretty much the only time I feel even remotely okay is when I'm running, which is why I'm not going to give up on that. And with the time change, and it getting dark super early, it's going to make things even harder. I'll be doing a lot of treadmill running for a while.
I'm thinking about the Turkey Trot I signed up for later this month, and I'm starting to chicken out. I want to skip it. I'm afraid of the crowds, and running on an unfamiliar course. But mostly it's the depression telling me I'm not good enough to run in a race like this, that I'd be better off just running on my own.
I love Runner's World.
Now the only way to find out if that depression is right, is to make the run an see for yourself
I hate crowds too. People stress me out. But I sure enjoy bearing half of them, or trying too! The "free" bananas, water, shirt, and finisher medal and standing amongst others that have taken on a similar challenge are also nice.
Best of luck! I hope you feel better soon.2 -
RespectTheKitty wrote: »I ordered a subscription to Runner's World from my son's school fundraiser, and my first issue arrived yesterday. That was really fun to read, very inspiring.
I'm still running, but my depression is really kicking my butt. It's hard to function right now. I just came back to work after a week long vacation and it's been really difficult getting adjusted. Pretty much the only time I feel even remotely okay is when I'm running, which is why I'm not going to give up on that. And with the time change, and it getting dark super early, it's going to make things even harder. I'll be doing a lot of treadmill running for a while.
I'm thinking about the Turkey Trot I signed up for later this month, and I'm starting to chicken out. I want to skip it. I'm afraid of the crowds, and running on an unfamiliar course. But mostly it's the depression telling me I'm not good enough to run in a race like this, that I'd be better off just running on my own.
I hate to hear that you are struggling with your depression. I know this time of year can be hard for lots of people. But you are good enough to run that race. Waaayy good enough. You have been running steadily for quite a while now and I'm sure there are many people there who can not say the same. You are going to do great. Just imagine how good that turkey is gonna taste with that finisher's medal around your neck. You totally got this!!!5 -
YouRespectTheKitty wrote: »I ordered a subscription to Runner's World from my son's school fundraiser, and my first issue arrived yesterday. That was really fun to read, very inspiring.
I'm still running, but my depression is really kicking my butt. It's hard to function right now. I just came back to work after a week long vacation and it's been really difficult getting adjusted. Pretty much the only time I feel even remotely okay is when I'm running, which is why I'm not going to give up on that. And with the time change, and it getting dark super early, it's going to make things even harder. I'll be doing a lot of treadmill running for a while.
I'm thinking about the Turkey Trot I signed up for later this month, and I'm starting to chicken out. I want to skip it. I'm afraid of the crowds, and running on an unfamiliar course. But mostly it's the depression telling me I'm not good enough to run in a race like this, that I'd be better off just running on my own.
're totally good enough to run it. You've made amazing gains in yout running in a pretty short amount of time. This time of year totally sucks, my wife is having similar issues as you are, but you're both doing the right things, getting out there and running or walking, or any outside activity really helps with things. If running is your escape (it's mine) you've already found a great coping mechanism. If you can fit time in for small increases in mileage/duration, you'll increase your happy time, as I call it, and the effects will last longer too. Keep your chin up, you're doing great!2 -
@MNLittleFinn I've found the running sleeves do nothing for me as far as calf soreness, ect. They do keep my legs a bit warm when the temps get into that weird temp range of too cold for shorts but too warm for the tights. DO NOT get them too tight, they are a PIA getting on when you get the right size, probably impossible if you get them too small.1
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11/1 - 5.1 miles. Gorgeous 62° morning to run!
11/2 - Slept in. Stayed up too late cheering the Cubs victory!
11/3 - 5.32 miles. Trek class / treadmill
11/4 - 4.7 miles.
11/5 - 3.5 miles. Easy, short run with my 10 year old son.
11/6 - Rest / crazy busy day.
11/7 - 5 miles.
11/8 - Bodypump class.0 -
@MNLittleFinn I've found the running sleeves do nothing for me as far as calf soreness, ect. They do keep my legs a bit warm when the temps get into that weird temp range of too cold for shorts but too warm for the tights. DO NOT get them too tight, they are a PIA getting on when you get the right size, probably impossible if you get them too small.
Thanks for the info. It's mainly for when I'm not running, I never feel sore when I'm running, it's all about recovery for me.0 -
It's another terrible dreary day but I'm still basking in last night's run. LOL I hope to get out there again tonight. I spent 2.5 hours last night going back and forth, not wanting to go out because it felt so late with the darkness setting in so early. So hopefully tonight I'll be able to push right through that.
My back is still awful achey and no clue what's up with that. I've had low back pain for years and I've had upper back pain for years, but this is smackdab in the middle and feels like somebody jumped on my back or something. I wouldn't run if it was low back pain that hurt with impact but this is just like I'm crazy sore and it doesn't seem to matter if I'm walking, running, moving, etc. It's just stiff and achey.
@RespectTheKitty I'm sorry you are struggling with the depression, but good job keeping up the running. Think about all you've accomplished already with your running - you can do that race! And that medal will be a great reminder to look at the next time you're feeling not good enough
Maybe you can make a book or a wall of running accomplishments to look at 0 -
For the record, I really hate the fact that elevation for different programs is so widely different that I can't really know which one to believe.0
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PT this morning, the last visit unless my issues flare up or something new happens. The PT was OK with my determination to do a 10K on Thanksgiving Day, subject to determining how much of it I need to walk. Most importantly, she thinks I'm healthy enough and have enough stuff I can do at home that I can get better simply by training smart and doing the exercises.
Rest day yesterday, won't run till this evening; so no mileage update right now. But I'm pretty happy with the prognosis.3 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »For the record, I really hate the fact that elevation for different programs is so widely different that I can't really know which one to believe.
Logic tells me that if one hill is a 50ft climb, and I run up it 5 times, that should be 250ft.....but they never seem to calculate it that way!0 -
Okay, I have a question. There's some running terms I don't quite understand no matter how much I read up on it. Maybe it's a math thing because my brain pretty much checks out when too many numbers are involved.
What is "easy", "tempo" and negative split?
I do you define your pace for a 5K, half marathon and marathon?1 -
Okay, I have a question. There's some running terms I don't quite understand no matter how much I read up on it. Maybe it's a math thing because my brain pretty much checks out when too many numbers are involved.
What is "easy", "tempo" and negative split?
I do you define your pace for a 5K, half marathon and marathon?
In a nutshell, and others can explain it better.
Easy and Tempo refer to paces and/or heart rates. Easy is, basically, when you can run and hold a conversation. Tempo is a bit faster than that, z3 for heart rate, for me that's like 164-174 beats per minute. Negative splits are when you run a mile split faster than the previous one or, in a marathon or HM, run the second half faster than the first.
Pace for 5k, HM and marathon are simply the pace at which you can run to go that distance. the longer the distance, the slower the pace.1 -
Thanks everyone, for your kind words about my depression. You guys are the reason I keep participating in these challenges!5
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »Okay, I have a question. There's some running terms I don't quite understand no matter how much I read up on it. Maybe it's a math thing because my brain pretty much checks out when too many numbers are involved.
What is "easy", "tempo" and negative split?
I do you define your pace for a 5K, half marathon and marathon?
In a nutshell, and others can explain it better.
Easy and Tempo refer to paces and/or heart rates. Easy is, basically, when you can run and hold a conversation. Tempo is a bit faster than that, z3 for heart rate, for me that's like 164-174 beats per minute. Negative splits are when you run a mile split faster than the previous one or, in a marathon or HM, run the second half faster than the first.
Pace for 5k, HM and marathon are simply the pace at which you can run to go that distance. the longer the distance, the slower the pace.
Ah...thank you! I understand it a bit more. I understand heart rates.0 -
Okay, I have a question. There's some running terms I don't quite understand no matter how much I read up on it. Maybe it's a math thing because my brain pretty much checks out when too many numbers are involved.
What is "easy", "tempo" and negative split?
I do you define your pace for a 5K, half marathon and marathon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veAQ73OJdwY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxJVtPT6rHo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j3XWp5fjx0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1agTi1cAdDU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnhbrd0QF0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO1hQ_kplgo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfTnPG8y1eI
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Targeting a HM as a tune up race. There's one 3 weeks out from my full. Does that work? wouldn't be targeting a PR, just to run it....or go for a PR????? Questions to consider. McMillan calculator says I should have been able to run a 2:03HM to run my Marathon goal...it's all voodoo and black magic, but it's something for me to look at so I don't go crazier0
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@RespectTheKitty Funny thing, I started running for the same reason. When I ran I forgot about many things that were "killing me". It's also one of the things that got me an injury because all I wanted to do is run and never stop. Someday I might go into ultras lol.
And trust you are good enough to run in a race.
@kristinegift Damn I have a spot of pain right under my ankle on the outside of my right foot. No idea when it appeared and it doesn't hurt when I run, only when I step in a certain way. I really hope is nothing serious and it will go away, been at it for a few days now without getting better. Probably a tendon got hurt when I stepped a bit wrong. I'm still wondering if it's ok to run if I don't feel pain during the run but at this point I might consider stopping for a few days if running doesn't let it heal. Hope you get well soon
On the plus side I got another pair of shoes (god damn it). Behold the Adidas Takumi Ren 3.
I realize now that I've became a huge fan of Adidas now. I don't like Nike shoes (It's always Adidas vs Nike), other brands I like. I just like their design philosophy.
Check this out. The Adizero Takumi are rafted for elite racing by Japanese expert cobblers Omori and Mimura. They are shoes made for Japan market so it's kinda rare to find them outside. They are basicaly on the same level as Adios, but for Japan.
There are 2 variants.
Adidas Takumi Sen which is a fast racing flat for 2 hours marathoners or 5k-Half racing if you aren't an elite 2 hour marathoner and Adidas Takumi Ren which is like the Sen but a bit heavier, marketed as a lightweight trainer (it also works like a flat).
Takumi Sen means "Artisan of the highest order". Not sure what Ren means but found out loosely translated Ren means "prepare" and Sen means "battle".
So I did some internet searching and found these two videos about the designers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eytYDtAbKfY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHew-Trt9yc This one is in japanese but I think it's cool
Ok I'll cut my rambling
Date.......Distance.....Type
November 1 - 11.8km - Easy+ST
November 2 - 11.6km - Easy
November 3 - 9.4 km - Easy+Drills
November 4 - 8.5 km - 5k test (19:23)
November 5 - 6.1 km - Easy, Duck
November 6 - 18.0km - Long run
November 7 - xt
November 8 - 13.0km - Easy+ST
03/04: Bucharest 10k and Family run 48:28
16/04: Color Run Bucharest
17/04: Forest Run 5k 22:05
04/06: Happy Run 5k 21:57
22/07: Bucharest After9Cross 9.5k 49:03
28/08: Fox Trail Half Marathon (10k) 48:28
18/09: Baneasa Trail Run (10.5k) 49:12
09/10: Bucharest International Marathon (Half Debut) 1:31:53
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1 November 5.57km run
2 November 2.4km swim
3 November 6km run
4 November 8km run
5 November 2.15km swim
6 November 3.43km run
7 November 1.9km swim
8 November 3.1km run
Running goal: 50km
Swimming goal: 25km
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@Stoshew71 McMillan has such a long neck0
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vcuellar21 wrote: »Hello group, I just came across this thread and thought it would be a great idea to join. I'm trying to get back into the groove of running, I use to run 6 miles a day but life has gotten in the way and I'm struggling to get back out there. I recently started a workout plan on the Nike Training App, which incorporates different workouts (strength, mobility, cardio, etc) I signed up for the beginners plan so it doesn't include runs but I've been running during the stated recovery days. So I'm getting slightly motivated to pick up running at least 3 days a week on top of the workout plan. I'm setting a goal of 35 miles this month, keeping it simple so I don't disappoint myself and I know I'm behind the rest of you as I'm starting a few days in but I hope to catch up.
On another note I've been experiencing a prolonged pain on the outside part of leg along the calf. Sometimes it feels like shinsplits but it's not on my shin it's literally runs down the outside part of my calf (where the indentation of your muscle is located). I was wondering if anyone of you have experienced that before, it doesn't feel like I pulled something or tore anything and it comes on at odds times not just after a workout or run.
Anywho, sorry for the long post. Thanks again for starting this group, I hope to stay motivated with your posts and help.
Just wanted to say welcome. Unfortunately I have no experience with that part of the leg! I have many other aches and pains but not that one :-p 35 miles is a great goal for getting back into running.1 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »Targeting a HM as a tune up race. There's one 3 weeks out from my full. Does that work? wouldn't be targeting a PR, just to run it....or go for a PR????? Questions to consider. McMillan calculator says I should have been able to run a 2:03HM to run my Marathon goal...it's all voodoo and black magic, but it's something for me to look at so I don't go crazier
Hmmm... That's up to you. You will basically be entering your 3 week marathon taper right after the race.
I have my tune up HM this coming weekend. It's 4 weeks from my full. So I am always caught. I know I cannot have a hard week the week after my HM (because I will be in recovery) but if I take that week too easy, then essentially I will be doing a 4 week taper which is excessive. Over tapering is in some cases is almost as bad than under tapering. So the beginning of my recovery will be easy recovery for a few days then by the end of the week I try to compensate and get in extra miles to make up for it. So it ends up being a tough week. Then I can enter my taper 3 weeks before my key marathon.
I am shooting for a 3:20 marathon time (or 7:38 pace). I will use this week's HM as a speed trial. So the goal is to get a 1:35 HM (or 7:15 pace). One estimation formula is take your HM time, double it, and then add 10 minutes. So, if I can run a 3:20 marathon, I should be able to run a 1:35 HM. My current HM PR is 1:36:33 back in April. So I need to break my PR by a little over a minute and a half.
Since this will be your first time marathon, you shouldn't really be running it to get a certain time, but to just finish it. But if you wanted to see what your appropriate marathon time would be, you could try and PR that HM you are thinking about 3 weeks prior, then take that time and double it, then add 10-20 minutes, then that should be your estimated marathon finish time. YMMV
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Hmmm... That's up to you. You will basically be entering your 3 week marathon taper right after the race.
I have my tune up HM this coming weekend. It's 4 weeks from my full. So I am always caught. I know I cannot have a hard week the week after my HM (because I will be in recovery) but if I take that week too easy, then essentially I will be doing a 4 week taper which is excessive. Over tapering is in some cases is almost as bad than under tapering. So the beginning of my recovery will be easy recovery for a few days then by the end of the week I try to compensate and get in extra miles to make up for it. So it ends up being a tough week. Then I can enter my taper 3 weeks before my key marathon.
I am shooting for a 3:20 marathon time (or 7:38 pace). I will use this week's HM as a speed trial. So the goal is to get a 1:35 HM (or 7:15 pace). One estimation formula is take your HM time, double it, and then add 10 minutes. So, if I can run a 3:20 marathon, I should be able to run a 1:35 HM. My current HM PR is 1:36:33 back in April. So I need to break my PR by a little over a minute and a half.
Since this will be your first time marathon, you shouldn't really be running it to get a certain time, but to just finish it. But if you wanted to see what your appropriate marathon time would be, you could try and PR that HM you are thinking about 3 weeks prior, then take that time and double it, then add 10-20 minutes, then that should be your estimated marathon finish time. YMMV
That's what I was a little concerned about. I want to get a HM in before the full, just to be back in racing form, but that would be right before my taper. I'm not running for time per se, more looking to try to find a good pace because, and I hate to admit it because that could change in another couple months, but I don't want to just run easy or LR pace for the full. I'd like to go faster, like hopefully in the 10:00 pace range, which would equate to a 4:25ish full, and I was hoping a HM could give me some idea of what to pace for. It's all just a thought exercise for the next 3 months as I base build, but I like to keep my mind occupied, and the numbers side of running is fascinating to me.0
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