Long exercise purely to eat more?

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  • elisa123gal
    elisa123gal Posts: 4,324 Member
    I personally think it is fine if one tries to work off indulgences. It does work - and it also is an educational tool for realizing .."is it worth it?" I read a great post from a man on here who was maintaining. He said he finally learned that over exercising could not work long term and he had to learn how to eat right and it was much easier. I believed him and think it is good advice.
  • LivingtheLeanDream
    LivingtheLeanDream Posts: 13,342 Member
    I personally think it is fine if one tries to work off indulgences. It does work - and it also is an educational tool for realizing .."is it worth it?" I read a great post from a man on here who was maintaining. He said he finally learned that over exercising could not work long term and he had to learn how to eat right and it was much easier. I believed him and think it is good advice.

    ^^ this. It was/is good advice :smile:
  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    8 hours of walking is worth it for 8 hours of walking. The pizza is a bonus.

    But then I like walking.

    Fully agree with you!
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,645 Member
    Now with cycling ... riding 100 km in about 5 hours will get me the Dominos pizza I like.

    I consider that a win-win.

    I get to cycle 100 km and I get the pizza. :)
  • GottaBurnEmAll
    GottaBurnEmAll Posts: 7,722 Member
    I have celiac disease. Gluten free pizza isn't worth this ish.

    I have earned indiscretions with ice cream, though.

    Generally speaking, I am happiest banking calories for planned indulgences, however and living my life focused on activity as a goal and food being secondary.

    I am banking some serious calories for these puppies this month:

    http://perudelights.com/corn-starch-alfajores-bite-sized-perfection/
  • CattOfTheGarage
    CattOfTheGarage Posts: 2,745 Member
    Ooh, those look good.

    I am now thinking of planning a Saturday that consists of an 8 hour walk and a Domino's pizza, as that sounds about perfect. However, we only get around 8 hours of daylight at this time of year, so timing could be tricky!
  • ModernRock
    ModernRock Posts: 372 Member
    edited December 2016
    Calculate the calorie goal you'll have when you reach your goal weight and lightly active or less. It seems sensible to me that--while in a calorie deficit--there's really no downside to exercising specifically to be able to eat this future (conservative) maintenance calorie goal. After all, that's how much you'll be eating for the long term anyway. Then, on days when you are highly active or exercise for fitness or fun, you get to eat a little more.

    Personally, the downside to exercising for the purpose of eating more is not addressing the issues that led to weight gain in the first place. (Granted, one of those issues could have been a highly sedentary lifestyle. But, that means more activity is needed either way.) Should life get in the way of increased activity, you'll be left learning how control your eating at a time that is likely to be stressful for the same reasons your activity decreased.
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    edited December 2016
    The key again is that it needs to be sustainable. For some people, being very active is not. Me, I LOVE walking and it's sitting on my butt all day that I can't stand anymore. And I'm always going to watch TV shows and I'd just rather do it on my stationary bike that on the couch (not all the time, obviously, but at least an hour a day, sure).
  • Raynne413
    Raynne413 Posts: 1,527 Member
    edited December 2016
    JaydedMiss wrote: »
    rybo wrote: »
    JaydedMiss wrote: »
    @JaydedMiss so why not try for 4mph or fast /slow intervals and make your walk more time efficient? :smiley:
    I run for 40-50 mins every morning to get at least half my steps in before work.

    I walk however fast i want when im out, Just said 3 mph because 2 hours of my day spent exercising is NOT alot of my time to do. Why you talking about more time efficient than 2 hours :D

    To be young with no responsibilities, where 2 hours a day is considered a drop in the bucket for time.

    If your life is truely to busy to spend 2 hour of your life on your health your likely lieing to yourself. I spend the time i used to spend sitting on the couch watching TV after work/class. Which i do both. So thanks for implying i dont do anything with my life. I also llive on my own. And pay all my bills. I also take care of my grandfather whose 89. Whats wrong with you you judgemental jerk. get off my thread with your stupid wrong close-minded assumptions

    You can't really make that assumption. I work 10 hour days, and spend an hour on my commute. I DO get up at 5:25am to get in a 45 minute workout before I have to get to work, but with getting home after 5pm, having to get food, clothes, and makeup together for the next day, lay out workout gear, take care of the cat, cook dinner, clean the kitchen, go through the mail, I MIGHT have ONE hour to relax before bed. I don't even have children. Now imagine a poor working mother that has one or two children to add into the mix. I think you are the one being closed minded.

    That being said, while I enjoy my workouts (kickboxing, dance, and weights), I totally workout so I can eat more. I look at 1200 calories and want to cry!!
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    JaydedMiss wrote: »
    rybo wrote: »
    JaydedMiss wrote: »
    @JaydedMiss so why not try for 4mph or fast /slow intervals and make your walk more time efficient? :smiley:
    I run for 40-50 mins every morning to get at least half my steps in before work.

    I walk however fast i want when im out, Just said 3 mph because 2 hours of my day spent exercising is NOT alot of my time to do. Why you talking about more time efficient than 2 hours :D

    To be young with no responsibilities, where 2 hours a day is considered a drop in the bucket for time.

    If your life is truely to busy to spend 2 hour of your life on your health your likely lieing to yourself. I spend the time i used to spend sitting on the couch watching TV after work/class. Which i do both. So thanks for implying i dont do anything with my life. I also llive on my own. And pay all my bills. I also take care of my grandfather whose 89. Whats wrong with you you judgemental jerk. get off my thread with your stupid wrong close-minded assumptions

    I don't see any judgment on his part. Nor do I see any obvious implications. I also don't see any assumption that he made. I believe you are inferring things that simply aren't there.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    TR0berts wrote: »
    JaydedMiss wrote: »
    rybo wrote: »
    JaydedMiss wrote: »
    @JaydedMiss so why not try for 4mph or fast /slow intervals and make your walk more time efficient? :smiley:
    I run for 40-50 mins every morning to get at least half my steps in before work.

    I walk however fast i want when im out, Just said 3 mph because 2 hours of my day spent exercising is NOT alot of my time to do. Why you talking about more time efficient than 2 hours :D

    To be young with no responsibilities, where 2 hours a day is considered a drop in the bucket for time.

    If your life is truely to busy to spend 2 hour of your life on your health your likely lieing to yourself. I spend the time i used to spend sitting on the couch watching TV after work/class. Which i do both. So thanks for implying i dont do anything with my life. I also llive on my own. And pay all my bills. I also take care of my grandfather whose 89. Whats wrong with you you judgemental jerk. get off my thread with your stupid wrong close-minded assumptions

    I don't see any judgment on his part. Nor do I see any obvious implications. I also don't see any assumption that he made. I believe you are inferring things that simply aren't there.

    I think saying someone has "no responsibilities" could potentially be judgmental. @JaydedMiss probably does have responsibilities of some sort, as do other people who regularly have longer exercise sessions. Not everyone can make time for longer exercise, but that doesn't mean that people who are able to find the time are responsibility-free.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    TR0berts wrote: »
    JaydedMiss wrote: »
    rybo wrote: »
    JaydedMiss wrote: »
    @JaydedMiss so why not try for 4mph or fast /slow intervals and make your walk more time efficient? :smiley:
    I run for 40-50 mins every morning to get at least half my steps in before work.

    I walk however fast i want when im out, Just said 3 mph because 2 hours of my day spent exercising is NOT alot of my time to do. Why you talking about more time efficient than 2 hours :D

    To be young with no responsibilities, where 2 hours a day is considered a drop in the bucket for time.

    If your life is truely to busy to spend 2 hour of your life on your health your likely lieing to yourself. I spend the time i used to spend sitting on the couch watching TV after work/class. Which i do both. So thanks for implying i dont do anything with my life. I also llive on my own. And pay all my bills. I also take care of my grandfather whose 89. Whats wrong with you you judgemental jerk. get off my thread with your stupid wrong close-minded assumptions

    I don't see any judgment on his part. Nor do I see any obvious implications. I also don't see any assumption that he made. I believe you are inferring things that simply aren't there.

    I think saying someone has "no responsibilities" could potentially be judgmental. @JaydedMiss probably does have responsibilities of some sort, as do other people who regularly have longer exercise sessions. Not everyone can make time for longer exercise, but that doesn't mean that people who are able to find the time are responsibility-free.

    Yeah, but I assumed it was in part related to her own post above:

    "Nah i just do it sometimes when i feel like binge eating ill walk extra long to get the calories for an extra meal. Havent been working so had alot of free time. I did just get a new job as a mover though so all that walking leg strength is going to work out well for me anyway lol."
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    TR0berts wrote: »
    JaydedMiss wrote: »
    rybo wrote: »
    JaydedMiss wrote: »
    @JaydedMiss so why not try for 4mph or fast /slow intervals and make your walk more time efficient? :smiley:
    I run for 40-50 mins every morning to get at least half my steps in before work.

    I walk however fast i want when im out, Just said 3 mph because 2 hours of my day spent exercising is NOT alot of my time to do. Why you talking about more time efficient than 2 hours :D

    To be young with no responsibilities, where 2 hours a day is considered a drop in the bucket for time.

    If your life is truely to busy to spend 2 hour of your life on your health your likely lieing to yourself. I spend the time i used to spend sitting on the couch watching TV after work/class. Which i do both. So thanks for implying i dont do anything with my life. I also llive on my own. And pay all my bills. I also take care of my grandfather whose 89. Whats wrong with you you judgemental jerk. get off my thread with your stupid wrong close-minded assumptions

    I don't see any judgment on his part. Nor do I see any obvious implications. I also don't see any assumption that he made. I believe you are inferring things that simply aren't there.

    I think saying someone has "no responsibilities" could potentially be judgmental. @JaydedMiss probably does have responsibilities of some sort, as do other people who regularly have longer exercise sessions. Not everyone can make time for longer exercise, but that doesn't mean that people who are able to find the time are responsibility-free.

    Yeah, but I assumed it was in part related to her own post above:

    "Nah i just do it sometimes when i feel like binge eating ill walk extra long to get the calories for an extra meal. Havent been working so had alot of free time. I did just get a new job as a mover though so all that walking leg strength is going to work out well for me anyway lol."

    Oops, missed that context. Thank you.
  • French_Peasant
    French_Peasant Posts: 1,639 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    JaydedMiss wrote: »
    rybo wrote: »
    JaydedMiss wrote: »
    @JaydedMiss so why not try for 4mph or fast /slow intervals and make your walk more time efficient? :smiley:
    I run for 40-50 mins every morning to get at least half my steps in before work.

    I walk however fast i want when im out, Just said 3 mph because 2 hours of my day spent exercising is NOT alot of my time to do. Why you talking about more time efficient than 2 hours :D

    To be young with no responsibilities, where 2 hours a day is considered a drop in the bucket for time.

    If your life is truely to busy to spend 2 hour of your life on your health your likely lieing to yourself. I spend the time i used to spend sitting on the couch watching TV after work/class. Which i do both. So thanks for implying i dont do anything with my life. I also llive on my own. And pay all my bills. I also take care of my grandfather whose 89. Whats wrong with you you judgemental jerk. get off my thread with your stupid wrong close-minded assumptions

    I think all he's saying is that most people don't have the "luxury" of two hours every single day to exercise. I work anywhere from 8-10 hours per day and have a two hour commute...I also have two little boys (4 & 6) at home and a wife...meals need to be prepared, homework has to be done, baths have to be run, lunches made for my kids as well as my wife and I, things need fixed around the house, things need cleaned around the house, kids have football and soccer practice and games...

    I'd love to have two hours to workout every single day...but it isn't happening...it would most definitely be a luxury for most people. You made it a point to say that it wasn't a lot of time...he was just pointing out that for many, if not most working adults with a family, a couple hours to workout every day is pretty hard to come by. This is why walking wouldn't be very efficient for many in terms of actually getting in a workout...I'm going to get far more out of a 20-30 minute HIIT session on my bike trainer than I would spending that same available 20-30 minutes going for a walk.

    I agree with this--children make a huge impact on the amount of time you can dedicate to exercise, and I think that is what he was trying to imply, rather than being deliberately insulting or patronizing. I could have fit in a couple more hours yesterday...if I had wanted to skip my 10 year old's basketball game or a dinner with grandparents afterward. Tonight I could kill it if I just skipped the Vespers service where she is playing Mary, and every other night if I didn't care that she got her homework done or that no one had clean underwear and school uniforms, etc.

    That being said, I have done my very best to get a large amount of exercise back into my life, with the help of a very supportive husband (which is key). I do it to be able to eat the things I want to eat--bread dipped in fabulous olive oils, rich French sauces, home-baked cookies and crisps and pies, while cutting out most of the "junk"--but I am also trying to get back to exercise patterns I had before I had kids and was able to effortlessly maintain thinness. I watch maybe 2 hours of TV a week--as obviously something has to give, and it is the appropriately-named boob tube!
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    TR0berts wrote: »
    JaydedMiss wrote: »
    rybo wrote: »
    JaydedMiss wrote: »
    @JaydedMiss so why not try for 4mph or fast /slow intervals and make your walk more time efficient? :smiley:
    I run for 40-50 mins every morning to get at least half my steps in before work.

    I walk however fast i want when im out, Just said 3 mph because 2 hours of my day spent exercising is NOT alot of my time to do. Why you talking about more time efficient than 2 hours :D

    To be young with no responsibilities, where 2 hours a day is considered a drop in the bucket for time.

    If your life is truely to busy to spend 2 hour of your life on your health your likely lieing to yourself. I spend the time i used to spend sitting on the couch watching TV after work/class. Which i do both. So thanks for implying i dont do anything with my life. I also llive on my own. And pay all my bills. I also take care of my grandfather whose 89. Whats wrong with you you judgemental jerk. get off my thread with your stupid wrong close-minded assumptions

    I don't see any judgment on his part. Nor do I see any obvious implications. I also don't see any assumption that he made. I believe you are inferring things that simply aren't there.

    I think saying someone has "no responsibilities" could potentially be judgmental. @JaydedMiss probably does have responsibilities of some sort, as do other people who regularly have longer exercise sessions. Not everyone can make time for longer exercise, but that doesn't mean that people who are able to find the time are responsibility-free.

    Yeah, but I assumed it was in part related to her own post above:

    "Nah i just do it sometimes when i feel like binge eating ill walk extra long to get the calories for an extra meal. Havent been working so had alot of free time. I did just get a new job as a mover though so all that walking leg strength is going to work out well for me anyway lol."

    Oops, missed that context. Thank you.

    There was that, but more, I think, of the post that he had quoted, where she said, "2 hours of my day spent exercising is NOT alot of my time to do." Not that she didn't have any responsibilities - just that, when taken in context of the rest of his post - 2 hours not being a lot of her time seemed to indicate that she had plenty of free time.

    I realize I'm making an assumption on what he meant. It just seems the most obvious line of thinking. I, obviously, could be wrong about his intentions.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    TR0berts wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    TR0berts wrote: »
    JaydedMiss wrote: »
    rybo wrote: »
    JaydedMiss wrote: »
    @JaydedMiss so why not try for 4mph or fast /slow intervals and make your walk more time efficient? :smiley:
    I run for 40-50 mins every morning to get at least half my steps in before work.

    I walk however fast i want when im out, Just said 3 mph because 2 hours of my day spent exercising is NOT alot of my time to do. Why you talking about more time efficient than 2 hours :D

    To be young with no responsibilities, where 2 hours a day is considered a drop in the bucket for time.

    If your life is truely to busy to spend 2 hour of your life on your health your likely lieing to yourself. I spend the time i used to spend sitting on the couch watching TV after work/class. Which i do both. So thanks for implying i dont do anything with my life. I also llive on my own. And pay all my bills. I also take care of my grandfather whose 89. Whats wrong with you you judgemental jerk. get off my thread with your stupid wrong close-minded assumptions

    I don't see any judgment on his part. Nor do I see any obvious implications. I also don't see any assumption that he made. I believe you are inferring things that simply aren't there.

    I think saying someone has "no responsibilities" could potentially be judgmental. @JaydedMiss probably does have responsibilities of some sort, as do other people who regularly have longer exercise sessions. Not everyone can make time for longer exercise, but that doesn't mean that people who are able to find the time are responsibility-free.

    Yeah, but I assumed it was in part related to her own post above:

    "Nah i just do it sometimes when i feel like binge eating ill walk extra long to get the calories for an extra meal. Havent been working so had alot of free time. I did just get a new job as a mover though so all that walking leg strength is going to work out well for me anyway lol."

    Oops, missed that context. Thank you.

    There was that, but more, I think, of the post that he had quoted, where she said, "2 hours of my day spent exercising is NOT alot of my time to do." Not that she didn't have any responsibilities - just that, when taken in context of the rest of his post - 2 hours not being a lot of her time seemed to indicate that she had plenty of free time.

    I realize I'm making an assumption on what he meant. It just seems the most obvious line of thinking. I, obviously, could be wrong about his intentions.

    You're right -- I was focusing on the post without adequately reading what preceded it. Classic internet fail.
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    This is true...but it can also be a slippery slope...

    Sure, but what isn't? You can exercise too much so you can eat 10,000 kCal a day, you can also push too hard on the gas pedal on your way in to work, or drink too much coffee to be more productive when you get there. In all things, people need judgement and balance.
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    Certainly one of the advantages for me of regular exercise is to be able to just live life and not give a ton of thought to my diet (though I eat pretty well)...particularly when it comes to beer...but it's not the "reason" I guess...

    To be honest I don't have any one reason for exercising. If you asked me the main reason on two different days, I'll give you two different answers. Some of the most common ones for me are:

    Cabin fever
    Take advantage of a nice day
    Scenery
    To be in shape
    Deal with anxiety

    I sure enjoy the fact that I'm able to eat more and maintain a healthy weight, too, but that's never "the" thing that gets me out the door, probably only because my cabin fever is stronger.
  • JaydedMiss
    JaydedMiss Posts: 4,286 Member
    Not sure how the people a few posts above arent seeing him call me "young with no responsibilities" Seeing as ithats literally the exact words. Whatever

    Been fun reading this thread since i woke up because it transformed into a pizza thread hah.
  • JaydedMiss
    JaydedMiss Posts: 4,286 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    JaydedMiss wrote: »
    rybo wrote: »
    JaydedMiss wrote: »
    @JaydedMiss so why not try for 4mph or fast /slow intervals and make your walk more time efficient? :smiley:
    I run for 40-50 mins every morning to get at least half my steps in before work.

    I walk however fast i want when im out, Just said 3 mph because 2 hours of my day spent exercising is NOT alot of my time to do. Why you talking about more time efficient than 2 hours :D

    To be young with no responsibilities, where 2 hours a day is considered a drop in the bucket for time.

    If your life is truely to busy to spend 2 hour of your life on your health your likely lieing to yourself. I spend the time i used to spend sitting on the couch watching TV after work/class. Which i do both. So thanks for implying i dont do anything with my life. I also llive on my own. And pay all my bills. I also take care of my grandfather whose 89. Whats wrong with you you judgemental jerk. get off my thread with your stupid wrong close-minded assumptions

    I think all he's saying is that most people don't have the "luxury" of two hours every single day to exercise. I work anywhere from 8-10 hours per day and have a two hour commute...I also have two little boys (4 & 6) at home and a wife...meals need to be prepared, homework has to be done, baths have to be run, lunches made for my kids as well as my wife and I, things need fixed around the house, things need cleaned around the house, kids have football and soccer practice and games...

    I'd love to have two hours to workout every single day...but it isn't happening...it would most definitely be a luxury for most people. You made it a point to say that it wasn't a lot of time (and then a further point to suggest that we're lying to ourselves...which would infact illustrate so naivety of youth)...he was just pointing out that for many, if not most working adults with a family, a couple hours to workout every day is pretty hard to come by. This is why walking wouldn't be very efficient for many in terms of actually getting in a workout...I'm going to get far more out of a 20-30 minute HIIT session on my bike trainer than I would spending that same available 20-30 minutes going for a walk.

    Prepping your meals and running after your kids are all health related things nowhere did i say 2 hour strictly to exercise i said 2 hours spent on your health. Still standing by him calling me young with no responsiblities is way worse of an assumption than "2 hours out of 24 spent doing something good for your health isnt to much" Not sure why you guys are standing up for him
  • JaydedMiss
    JaydedMiss Posts: 4,286 Member
    edited December 2016
    Im actually getting deeply offended here now. I thought it was one *kitten* guy but so many of you are literally backing up what he said to me. Dont really care for the schoolyard feel of it but sitll seems to me something way to bad to stand up for him saying to anyone. And to then get mad at me for saying 2 hours spent ON YOUR HEALTH isnt to much in a day? See the thing is you guys put in MY mouth that that meant 2 hours strict exercise. His LITERAL words were "young with no responsibilities"

    Sigh. Seriously dont see how you guys say its me putting words in his mouth while filling mine with yours. So done. This thread finished its purpose anyway before going to trollville.

    My bad for not being aware making my health a priority meant i had no responsibilities in my life! *kitten* im so sorry.
  • JaydedMiss
    JaydedMiss Posts: 4,286 Member
    rybo wrote: »
    JaydedMiss wrote: »
    @JaydedMiss so why not try for 4mph or fast /slow intervals and make your walk more time efficient? :smiley:
    I run for 40-50 mins every morning to get at least half my steps in before work.

    I walk however fast i want when im out, Just said 3 mph because 2 hours of my day spent exercising is NOT alot of my time to do. Why you talking about more time efficient than 2 hours :D

    To be young with no responsibilities, where 2 hours a day is considered a drop in the bucket for time.

    We all have our priorities. The average American spends 34 hours a week watching TV, but scoffs at the idea of having 2 hours in a day for their health.

    Finally someone with some sense. Jeez. I havent watched tv in weeks :D
  • JeromeBarry1
    JeromeBarry1 Posts: 10,179 Member
    I watch, but don't listen to, the tv while I'm using my cardio machines. Last night it was Spaceballs.
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