Long exercise purely to eat more?
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queenliz99 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I dont know how you guys manage in winter! The coldest it gets here during the day in winter would be around 12C (53F), and we all walk around shivering looking like Rudolph lol It's going to a balmy 30 (86F) today
-25C here right now (ask me how I know), warmest it's been all week.
It has to do with some evil dog
lol
Yes, yes it does. And it wasn't even the dog I lovingly refer to as Satan (much less frequently than when I first brought her home).Christine_72 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I dont know how you guys manage in winter! The coldest it gets here during the day in winter would be around 12C (53F), and we all walk around shivering looking like Rudolph lol It's going to a balmy 30 (86F) today
-25C here right now (ask me how I know), warmest it's been all week.
I can not even imagine what that temperature would feel like. It must be like like torture every time you step out the front door accompanied by the constant nose runs
It feels like my lungs are on fire. I had to chase an escaped dog today, without time to gear up, so I was without socks (I had shoes, obviously), wearing PJ top, and my jacket wide open. I have been staying inside as much as possible this week. As much as I want to go swimming, I just don't want to be out there in it. Today is warmer, so hopefully next week keeps improving. I'm coughing up my lungs, and the dog is happily napping after her adventure through the neighbourhood.0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I dont know how you guys manage in winter! The coldest it gets here during the day in winter would be around 12C (53F), and we all walk around shivering looking like Rudolph lol It's going to a balmy 30 (86F) today
-25C here right now (ask me how I know), warmest it's been all week.
It has to do with some evil dog lol
Yes, yes it does. And it wasn't even the dog I lovingly refer to as Satan (much less frequently than when I first brought her home).Christine_72 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I dont know how you guys manage in winter! The coldest it gets here during the day in winter would be around 12C (53F), and we all walk around shivering looking like Rudolph lol It's going to a balmy 30 (86F) today
-25C here right now (ask me how I know), warmest it's been all week.
I can not even imagine what that temperature would feel like. It must be like like torture every time you step out the front door accompanied by the constant nose runs
It feels like my lungs are on fire. I had to chase an escaped dog today, without time to gear up, so I was without socks (I had shoes, obviously), wearing PJ top, and my jacket wide open. I have been staying inside as much as possible this week. As much as I want to go swimming, I just don't want to be out there in it. Today is warmer, so hopefully next week keeps improving. I'm coughing up my lungs, and the dog is happily napping after her adventure through the neighbourhood.
Oh no hehe, that must have been a funny sight :laugh: Sorry, not sorry
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Christine_72 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I dont know how you guys manage in winter! The coldest it gets here during the day in winter would be around 12C (53F), and we all walk around shivering looking like Rudolph lol It's going to a balmy 30 (86F) today
-25C here right now (ask me how I know), warmest it's been all week.
It has to do with some evil dog lol
Yes, yes it does. And it wasn't even the dog I lovingly refer to as Satan (much less frequently than when I first brought her home).Christine_72 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I dont know how you guys manage in winter! The coldest it gets here during the day in winter would be around 12C (53F), and we all walk around shivering looking like Rudolph lol It's going to a balmy 30 (86F) today
-25C here right now (ask me how I know), warmest it's been all week.
I can not even imagine what that temperature would feel like. It must be like like torture every time you step out the front door accompanied by the constant nose runs
It feels like my lungs are on fire. I had to chase an escaped dog today, without time to gear up, so I was without socks (I had shoes, obviously), wearing PJ top, and my jacket wide open. I have been staying inside as much as possible this week. As much as I want to go swimming, I just don't want to be out there in it. Today is warmer, so hopefully next week keeps improving. I'm coughing up my lungs, and the dog is happily napping after her adventure through the neighbourhood.
Oh no hehe, that must have been a funny sight :laugh: Sorry, not sorry
It's all good. I've calmed down. She's lucky she's cute. It was a good reminder that I should get back to the C25K.0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I dont know how you guys manage in winter! The coldest it gets here during the day in winter would be around 12C (53F), and we all walk around shivering looking like Rudolph lol It's going to a balmy 30 (86F) today
-25C here right now (ask me how I know), warmest it's been all week.
Ugh.
My family is all in the midwest, but I was born and lived in Miami until age 5. When I was just turned 3 my parents brought me to my grandparents and were all excited to show me my first white Christmas. When they took me out in the snow I started crying.
I think that's a perfectly reasonable reaction still. ;-) Yet for some reason as an adult I have lived in northern Massachusetts, Michigan, and Chicago, sigh.
Not -25C here, though, so there's that! ;-)1 -
Christine_72 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »RunRutheeRun wrote: »@JaydedMiss so why not try for 4mph or fast /slow intervals and make your walk more time efficient?
I run for 40-50 mins every morning to get at least half my steps in before work.
I walk however fast i want when im out, Just said 3 mph because 2 hours of my day spent exercising is NOT alot of my time to do. Why you talking about more time efficient than 2 hours
To be young with no responsibilities, where 2 hours a day is considered a drop in the bucket for time.
We all have our priorities. The average American spends 34 hours a week watching TV, but scoffs at the idea of having 2 hours in a day for their health.
Finally someone with some sense. Jeez. I havent watched tv in weeks
Is watching tv any different than sitting in front of a computer doing social media? Both can be entertaining...both can be a mindless waste of time.
True.. This is why i do my "foruming" on my phone while I'm walking. I can either sit down for 2 hours reading all the posts on mfp or i can walk while I'm reading them. I kill 2 birds with one stone
I am a nature and people watcher while I walk. I live close to a river and a lake that has trails. It is beautiful and peaceful despite the fact that it is used by many walkers, runners and cyclists. I hardly ever take my phone with me...it is my serenity time.
When I lived in Portland Oregon...I walked along the river there too...I was too busy stepping over homeless people to use my phone. There were every where plus the street kids. In Seattle Washington I lived close to the bay...so no phone. I also walked to the market area and there were just too many people to bo using a phone.
I lived in Washington DC for about a year. People there were hard wired to their phones. They were like a third appendage. It was like watching zombies walking around...they never looked up...never saw the people that they were passing on the sidewalk. I found that troubling. DC is such a diverse city...a city that you could find people from all parts of the world. One of my favorite walking routes was through embassy row...every nationality...every faith being practiced...every culture.
I did used to wear my Ipod to listen to music...I realized one day that I would rather hear the birds and the noises of the city. Plus...I needed to hear if there was a bad guy coming up behind me! LOL Kind of just kidding. Seriously though...I could not hear the cyclist nor the runners coming up behind with music blasting in my ear.
Okay...I am rambling again...
I hear ya, I probably wouldn't take my phone if i was walking in the city or on a scenic walking path. But i get all my steps in with out leaving home. I live at the end of a culdesac and have a huge yard with gates on either side of my house, so i do 20 lap or 3500ish step blocks all throughout the day, so i need my phone to kinda kill the boredom.
I don't know how you do it...I get bored easily.
I live in an apartment that has a partially enclosed hallway that forms a loop. Six laps and I have in one mile. During bad weather I have used it to walk...I am loony by the time I have finished those six laps. We have a gym with tread mills but to me...that is even worse. I would rather walk with Leslie!0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I dont know how you guys manage in winter! The coldest it gets here during the day in winter would be around 12C (53F), and we all walk around shivering looking like Rudolph lol It's going to a balmy 30 (86F) today
-25C here right now (ask me how I know), warmest it's been all week.
Ugh.
My family is all in the midwest, but I was born and lived in Miami until age 5. When I was just turned 3 my parents brought me to my grandparents and were all excited to show me my first white Christmas. When they took me out in the snow I started crying.
I think that's a perfectly reasonable reaction still. ;-) Yet for some reason as an adult I have lived in northern Massachusetts, Michigan, and Chicago, sigh.
Not -25C here, though, so there's that! ;-)
I agree, that is a perfectly reasonable reaction.0 -
Christine_72 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »RunRutheeRun wrote: »@JaydedMiss so why not try for 4mph or fast /slow intervals and make your walk more time efficient?
I run for 40-50 mins every morning to get at least half my steps in before work.
I walk however fast i want when im out, Just said 3 mph because 2 hours of my day spent exercising is NOT alot of my time to do. Why you talking about more time efficient than 2 hours
To be young with no responsibilities, where 2 hours a day is considered a drop in the bucket for time.
We all have our priorities. The average American spends 34 hours a week watching TV, but scoffs at the idea of having 2 hours in a day for their health.
Finally someone with some sense. Jeez. I havent watched tv in weeks
Is watching tv any different than sitting in front of a computer doing social media? Both can be entertaining...both can be a mindless waste of time.
True.. This is why i do my "foruming" on my phone while I'm walking. I can either sit down for 2 hours reading all the posts on mfp or i can walk while I'm reading them. I kill 2 birds with one stone
I am a nature and people watcher while I walk. I live close to a river and a lake that has trails. It is beautiful and peaceful despite the fact that it is used by many walkers, runners and cyclists. I hardly ever take my phone with me...it is my serenity time.
When I lived in Portland Oregon...I walked along the river there too...I was too busy stepping over homeless people to use my phone. There were every where plus the street kids. In Seattle Washington I lived close to the bay...so no phone. I also walked to the market area and there were just too many people to bo using a phone.
I lived in Washington DC for about a year. People there were hard wired to their phones. They were like a third appendage. It was like watching zombies walking around...they never looked up...never saw the people that they were passing on the sidewalk. I found that troubling. DC is such a diverse city...a city that you could find people from all parts of the world. One of my favorite walking routes was through embassy row...every nationality...every faith being practiced...every culture.
I did used to wear my Ipod to listen to music...I realized one day that I would rather hear the birds and the noises of the city. Plus...I needed to hear if there was a bad guy coming up behind me! LOL Kind of just kidding. Seriously though...I could not hear the cyclist nor the runners coming up behind with music blasting in my ear.
Okay...I am rambling again...
I hear ya, I probably wouldn't take my phone if i was walking in the city or on a scenic walking path. But i get all my steps in with out leaving home. I live at the end of a culdesac and have a huge yard with gates on either side of my house, so i do 20 lap or 3500ish step blocks all throughout the day, so i need my phone to kinda kill the boredom.
I don't know how you do it...I get bored easily.
I live in an apartment that has a partially enclosed hallway that forms a loop. Six laps and I have in one mile. During bad weather I have used it to walk...I am loony by the time I have finished those six laps. We have a gym with tread mills but to me...that is even worse. I would rather walk with Leslie!
Ha my neighbours thought i was a loony woman pacing around my house when i first started doing it
But its been 2 years and they're used to it now... i think :huh:
It's just become part of my daily routine these days, i cant sit still for long periods without getting antsy, and i hate walking for miles and miles at a time, partly because of shin splints and because i get bored after 30 minutes, phone or no phone.1 -
I have started doing step ups on the bottom step of the stairs, because I needed a quick killer cardio exercise I could do indoors in the winter and I have no exercise machinery nor room to store any. I've got up to 25 minutes at a trot. I'm not sure if I can go any further, not because of endurance but because of staring at the wall continously for 25min. But hey, it torches calories, and it's doing wonders for my knees (can practically bounce upstairs after hobbling for 6 months due to an injury).0
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Christine_72 wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »RunRutheeRun wrote: »@JaydedMiss so why not try for 4mph or fast /slow intervals and make your walk more time efficient?
I run for 40-50 mins every morning to get at least half my steps in before work.
I walk however fast i want when im out, Just said 3 mph because 2 hours of my day spent exercising is NOT alot of my time to do. Why you talking about more time efficient than 2 hours
To be young with no responsibilities, where 2 hours a day is considered a drop in the bucket for time.
We all have our priorities. The average American spends 34 hours a week watching TV, but scoffs at the idea of having 2 hours in a day for their health.
Finally someone with some sense. Jeez. I havent watched tv in weeks
Is watching tv any different than sitting in front of a computer doing social media? Both can be entertaining...both can be a mindless waste of time.
True.. This is why i do my "foruming" on my phone while I'm walking. I can either sit down for 2 hours reading all the posts on mfp or i can walk while I'm reading them. I kill 2 birds with one stone
I do a lot of it while riding the bus to and from work. I've got 1-1.5 hours of sitting on those buses each day ... might as well catch up with what's going on online.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I dont know how you guys manage in winter! The coldest it gets here during the day in winter would be around 12C (53F), and we all walk around shivering looking like Rudolph lol It's going to a balmy 30 (86F) today
-25C here right now (ask me how I know), warmest it's been all week.
Ugh.
My family is all in the midwest, but I was born and lived in Miami until age 5. When I was just turned 3 my parents brought me to my grandparents and were all excited to show me my first white Christmas. When they took me out in the snow I started crying.
I think that's a perfectly reasonable reaction still. ;-) Yet for some reason as an adult I have lived in northern Massachusetts, Michigan, and Chicago, sigh.
Not -25C here, though, so there's that! ;-)
I felt that way every single winter in Canada until 2009 ... when I moved to Australia.
While I would like to move back to Canada at some point, I think I'd have to be really selective where I'd go.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I dont know how you guys manage in winter! The coldest it gets here during the day in winter would be around 12C (53F), and we all walk around shivering looking like Rudolph lol It's going to a balmy 30 (86F) today
-25C here right now (ask me how I know), warmest it's been all week.
Ugh.
My family is all in the midwest, but I was born and lived in Miami until age 5. When I was just turned 3 my parents brought me to my grandparents and were all excited to show me my first white Christmas. When they took me out in the snow I started crying.
I think that's a perfectly reasonable reaction still. ;-) Yet for some reason as an adult I have lived in northern Massachusetts, Michigan, and Chicago, sigh.
Not -25C here, though, so there's that! ;-)
I felt that way every single winter in Canada until 2009 ... when I moved to Australia.
While I would like to move back to Canada at some point, I think I'd have to be really selective where I'd go.
Whenever i think of freezing weather i automatically think of Antarctica..... and Canada 0 -
Christine_72 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I dont know how you guys manage in winter! The coldest it gets here during the day in winter would be around 12C (53F), and we all walk around shivering looking like Rudolph lol It's going to a balmy 30 (86F) today
-25C here right now (ask me how I know), warmest it's been all week.
Ugh.
My family is all in the midwest, but I was born and lived in Miami until age 5. When I was just turned 3 my parents brought me to my grandparents and were all excited to show me my first white Christmas. When they took me out in the snow I started crying.
I think that's a perfectly reasonable reaction still. ;-) Yet for some reason as an adult I have lived in northern Massachusetts, Michigan, and Chicago, sigh.
Not -25C here, though, so there's that! ;-)
I felt that way every single winter in Canada until 2009 ... when I moved to Australia.
While I would like to move back to Canada at some point, I think I'd have to be really selective where I'd go.
Whenever i think of freezing weather i automatically think of Antarctica..... and Canada
But keep in mind that Canada isn't always cold.
Winnipeg (where I lived for 13 years) might hit -40C in the winter, but could hit +40C in the summer.
Living here in Tasmania now, the climate is a lot more consistent (+5C in winter and +20C in summer) ... and I really miss the +40C days. But not so much the -40C days.1 -
It's getting up to +15C here just now (Scotland). It's absurd. We want snow!0
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-10C (-20 with the wind chill) here in Minnesota. And 4 - 7 inches of the white stuff overnight.
My Labrador retriever is having a blast with his new snow boots.2 -
-10C (-20 with the wind chill) here in Minnesota. And 4 - 7 inches of the white stuff overnight.
My Labrador retriever is having a blast with his new snow boots.
I'm convinced my labrador has a cat in his pedigree. He hates the cold and spends the winter glued to the heater. He actually pulls his duvet over himself for the night if we forget to tuck him in. It doesn't even get that cold here... Cold as in -5 to 10C. at night4 -
I was sitting here in my home office the other day and realized it was downright chilly in the room. Freaked out thinking the furnace had packed it in, and hussled to the living room to check the thermostat to see why the furnace wasn't kicking in. But the thermostat registered the house temp as being 20C which is what it should be. Puzzled, I returned to my office.
It was then I noticed that one of my cats, Simon, was sound asleep on the heat vent on the floor, effectively blocking any warm air from entering the room.
I picked him up and he was all toasty.
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But keep in mind that Canada isn't always cold.
Winnipeg (where I lived for 13 years) might hit -40C in the winter, but could hit +40C in the summer.
Living here in Tasmania now, the climate is a lot more consistent (+5C in winter and +20C in summer) ... and I really miss the +40C days. But not so much the -40C days.
Born in Winnipeg and ice fished as a kid at -40. Can't do those temps anymore. Now in central BC where it does not get that cold. ~-10 now and about the worst I see is -20. But it can get very hot in the summer.
Great wine area though.
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Christine_72 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I dont know how you guys manage in winter! The coldest it gets here during the day in winter would be around 12C (53F), and we all walk around shivering looking like Rudolph lol It's going to a balmy 30 (86F) today
-25C here right now (ask me how I know), warmest it's been all week.
Ugh.
My family is all in the midwest, but I was born and lived in Miami until age 5. When I was just turned 3 my parents brought me to my grandparents and were all excited to show me my first white Christmas. When they took me out in the snow I started crying.
I think that's a perfectly reasonable reaction still. ;-) Yet for some reason as an adult I have lived in northern Massachusetts, Michigan, and Chicago, sigh.
Not -25C here, though, so there's that! ;-)
I felt that way every single winter in Canada until 2009 ... when I moved to Australia.
While I would like to move back to Canada at some point, I think I'd have to be really selective where I'd go.
Whenever i think of freezing weather i automatically think of Antarctica..... and Canada
But keep in mind that Canada isn't always cold.
Winnipeg (where I lived for 13 years) might hit -40C in the winter, but could hit +40C in the summer.
Living here in Tasmania now, the climate is a lot more consistent (+5C in winter and +20C in summer) ... and I really miss the +40C days. But not so much the -40C days.
That climate is Tasmania sounds perfect to me. You can go outdoors all year. Lovely!0 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I dont know how you guys manage in winter! The coldest it gets here during the day in winter would be around 12C (53F), and we all walk around shivering looking like Rudolph lol It's going to a balmy 30 (86F) today
-25C here right now (ask me how I know), warmest it's been all week.
Ugh.
My family is all in the midwest, but I was born and lived in Miami until age 5. When I was just turned 3 my parents brought me to my grandparents and were all excited to show me my first white Christmas. When they took me out in the snow I started crying.
I think that's a perfectly reasonable reaction still. ;-) Yet for some reason as an adult I have lived in northern Massachusetts, Michigan, and Chicago, sigh.
Not -25C here, though, so there's that! ;-)
I felt that way every single winter in Canada until 2009 ... when I moved to Australia.
While I would like to move back to Canada at some point, I think I'd have to be really selective where I'd go.
Whenever i think of freezing weather i automatically think of Antarctica..... and Canada
But keep in mind that Canada isn't always cold.
Winnipeg (where I lived for 13 years) might hit -40C in the winter, but could hit +40C in the summer.
Living here in Tasmania now, the climate is a lot more consistent (+5C in winter and +20C in summer) ... and I really miss the +40C days. But not so much the -40C days.
That climate is Tasmania sounds perfect to me. You can go outdoors all year. Lovely!
You can go outdoors all year ... if you've got good wind and rain protection.
Over the last year, we've had record breaking rainfalls ... it just seems to rain all the time ... and so much wind. I'm a cyclist and thought I had escaped the wind when I left Winnipeg ... nope. I think it's actually worse here.
We're thinking Queensland sounds appealing.
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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I dont know how you guys manage in winter! The coldest it gets here during the day in winter would be around 12C (53F), and we all walk around shivering looking like Rudolph lol It's going to a balmy 30 (86F) today
-25C here right now (ask me how I know), warmest it's been all week.
Ugh.
My family is all in the midwest, but I was born and lived in Miami until age 5. When I was just turned 3 my parents brought me to my grandparents and were all excited to show me my first white Christmas. When they took me out in the snow I started crying.
I think that's a perfectly reasonable reaction still. ;-) Yet for some reason as an adult I have lived in northern Massachusetts, Michigan, and Chicago, sigh.
Not -25C here, though, so there's that! ;-)
I felt that way every single winter in Canada until 2009 ... when I moved to Australia.
While I would like to move back to Canada at some point, I think I'd have to be really selective where I'd go.
Whenever i think of freezing weather i automatically think of Antarctica..... and Canada
But keep in mind that Canada isn't always cold.
Winnipeg (where I lived for 13 years) might hit -40C in the winter, but could hit +40C in the summer.
Living here in Tasmania now, the climate is a lot more consistent (+5C in winter and +20C in summer) ... and I really miss the +40C days. But not so much the -40C days.
That climate is Tasmania sounds perfect to me. You can go outdoors all year. Lovely!
You can go outdoors all year ... if you've got good wind and rain protection.
Over the last year, we've had record breaking rainfalls ... it just seems to rain all the time ... and so much wind. I'm a cyclist and thought I had escaped the wind when I left Winnipeg ... nope. I think it's actually worse here.
We're thinking Queensland sounds appealing.
Oh, that's a deal breaker.
Isn't Queensland really hot? From what you were saying about missing the 40C temperatures, it doesn't sound like that will bother you much, though.
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-10C (-20 with the wind chill) here in Minnesota. And 4 - 7 inches of the white stuff overnight.
My Labrador retriever is having a blast with his new snow boots.
I'm hearing another 8-10 Friday. My neightbor's silver lab was having a blast yesterday and my kids were outside in the snow all day after hockey practice. It's perfect weather for getting the rink going in the backyard. I heard overnight air temps in the -26C range all week.1 -
its the only reason I started walking. now I walk everywhere i can and rarely eat back or log the walks. yesterday i walked 15 miles and didn't even think about it.
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I don't think my approach to this was as extreme as yours but when I was really losing steadily in the first half of 2016 I was VERY aware of the extra calories afforded by exercise. I usually tried to ensure 2-300 extra calories through exercise and I found it was hugely helpful then to maintain a net 1200 calorie intake.
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NorthCascades wrote: »ModernRock wrote: »I totally get your point, but much in life is a matter of perspective and motivation. You really can't go wrong with your argument as any movement beyond sedentary could be argued as moving more to eat more. The distinction is the motivation behind the activity vis-à-vis sustainability and overall wellness.
Sustainability is over-rated in this case. People should adapt to their current circumstance, and continue to do so in the future. Nobody goes around giving the advice to quit your job because you'll have to retire some day.
Your retirement analogy misses my point. Try this one instead:. Somebody working extra shifts to support the lifestyle to which they've grown accustomed might do well to learn how to live within their future means in retirement. If somebody already knows how, or never plans to retire, or has some other resources to rely on (savings, family), then the advice is admittedly less useful.1 -
I think one problem that I see (at least IMO) is that I believe that there are some of us that once we lose the weight...we stop exercising because we no longer need the extra calorie burn to eat more. Then what happens...we gain the weight back and have to repeat the cycle.
I think for me...instead of adjusting the exercise to fit my food desires...I need to learn to adjust the eating to fit my activity level.
Why would anyone stop having fun once they reach their goal weight? I'm trying to imagine a day when somebody tells me I'm not allowed to go for bike rides anymore because I'm too skinny. It's a very sad thought.
A little more than a year ago I got hit by a car while I was doing hill repeats. I couldn't leave the hospital until the next day, couldn't walk for a week, and couldn't get back on a bike for almost three months. Yet I continued to lose weight through that period, just like I did before and after, when I exercised more.3 -
ModernRock wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »ModernRock wrote: »I totally get your point, but much in life is a matter of perspective and motivation. You really can't go wrong with your argument as any movement beyond sedentary could be argued as moving more to eat more. The distinction is the motivation behind the activity vis-à-vis sustainability and overall wellness.
Sustainability is over-rated in this case. People should adapt to their current circumstance, and continue to do so in the future. Nobody goes around giving the advice to quit your job because you'll have to retire some day.
Your retirement analogy misses my point. Try this one instead:. Somebody working extra shifts to support the lifestyle to which they've grown accustomed might do well to learn how to live within their future means in retirement. If somebody already knows how, or never plans to retire, or has some other resources to rely on (savings, family), then the advice is admittedly less useful.
The problem with analogies is that things aren't analogous. Retirement funds change value over time and benefit from compound interest; calories don't.1 -
NorthCascades wrote: »I think one problem that I see (at least IMO) is that I believe that there are some of us that once we lose the weight...we stop exercising because we no longer need the extra calorie burn to eat more. Then what happens...we gain the weight back and have to repeat the cycle.
I think for me...instead of adjusting the exercise to fit my food desires...I need to learn to adjust the eating to fit my activity level.
Why would anyone stop having fun once they reach their goal weight? I'm trying to imagine a day when somebody tells me I'm not allowed to go for bike rides anymore because I'm too skinny. It's a very sad thought.
A little more than a year ago I got hit by a car while I was doing hill repeats. I couldn't leave the hospital until the next day, couldn't walk for a week, and couldn't get back on a bike for almost three months. Yet I continued to lose weight through that period, just like I did before and after, when I exercised more.
I guess for many people exercise isnt fun, they do it because they think they have to, to lose weight or they exercise to be able to eat more.
Ever been to the gym and seen the miserable expression on some gym goers faces, then watch them stampede to the exit the second their session/class is over?3 -
ModernRock wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »ModernRock wrote: »I totally get your point, but much in life is a matter of perspective and motivation. You really can't go wrong with your argument as any movement beyond sedentary could be argued as moving more to eat more. The distinction is the motivation behind the activity vis-à-vis sustainability and overall wellness.
Sustainability is over-rated in this case. People should adapt to their current circumstance, and continue to do so in the future. Nobody goes around giving the advice to quit your job because you'll have to retire some day.
Your retirement analogy misses my point. Try this one instead:. Somebody working extra shifts to support the lifestyle to which they've grown accustomed might do well to learn how to live within their future means in retirement. If somebody already knows how, or never plans to retire, or has some other resources to rely on (savings, family), then the advice is admittedly less useful.
I don't understand what it is you are recommending by the "live within their future means" analogy. Are you saying we should eat less, and do less exercise? Or are you saying we should still do the exercise, but undereat?
Neither of these seems healthy.3 -
My mum is nearly 77 and she walks her butt off nearly everyday. She walks up and down steep hills that I hate and even struggle with! I'm glad she didnt roll over and get ready to die just because she's not young and sprightly anymore...4
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