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flippy1234 wrote: »I just stopped drinking alcohol. We will see how long it lasts...
Anyway, I want to get lean. I know WHAT to eat but not what NOT to eat.
Any suggestions as to what NOT to eat so I can eliminate it from my diet and thoughts?
Thanks!
What NOT to eat are extra calories. So eat what you prefer for your calories. As others mentioned above, make sure you get enough protein.
Figure out your TDEE based on activity level and subtract 250 calories a day for 1/2 pound loss a week or subtract 500 calories ftom TDEE to lose a pound a week and don't eat back calories.
Or you can use MFP calculations which is NEAT and eat back exercise calories (most only eat back 1/2). But all of these are estimates and will need tweaking. Be patient and eat what is sustainable for you!0 -
stevencloser wrote: »During the first phases of weight loss (I am in the 4th month and reduced 16 Kgs/ 35 pounds), there are difinitively things I recommend to forget:
- Sugar of any kind (even brown or honey): they add calories we don't need, I only use sweeteners 0 cals.
- Sodas of any kind and even boxed juices. They are like water with sugar (see previous). From time to time (max 2 per week) some 0 cals soda
- Any cakes or industrial bakery: glucose shots that will unbalance you on spot.
- Pizza
Besides above, I won't eliminate anything else.
yea, I ate all those things, lost 50 pounds, and got to sub 15% body fat....I must be a freak of nature...
Not at all! It's just that your way isn't THE ONLY WAY! Your way worked for you and it would work for many others. But it might not work for someone else. So you don't need to blast anyone else's opinions in order to validate your own.
i ate in a calorie deficit, that works for everyone.
There's more to dieting/building muscle/losing fat/getting lean than simple math. That's what you don't seem to get.
Way to move the goal posts as we were only talking about weight loss..so here is a little refresher...
Calorie deficit for straight weight loss; macro micro adherence + structured lifting program for body comp goals....
Even getting lean and muscle building is still simple math. Lean mass in pounds * 0.8 = grams of protein for good muscle building/retention potential.
What I was getting at was the human factor. Read all the posts and think about what everyone is saying. I can say for me that some foods can trigger binge eating in moments of weakness. I know the math - that's the easy part. Everyone should learn the math and you've provided some good information. We need to understand the math but we also need a plan to execute and succeed. I've replaced some of my trigger foods with others that are a fraction of the calories and avoid other foods. I don't see what's so wrong about that. I like my plan and it works for me but I can't help but feel some people won't be happy until I go back to eating Krusteez pancakes smothered in maple syrup instead of my protein-packed whole grain Kodiak Cakes with berry syrup (delicious, by the way).
Anyway, you and ndj1979 are correct and provide good information so I don't mean to be adversarial. Just pointing out my personal opinions and ideas that work for me that MAY help someone else.0 -
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It's ok lol I had a McRib meal last night and didn't gain 5lbs but now I want vanilla ice cream.Hearts_2015 wrote: »
damn, I did it again!
I'm screwed guys - I had vanilla ice cream last night. TWICE!
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This discussion is funny. In spite of everything I've learned and read about foods since deciding to get healthy, the only thing that has really changed is the quantity I eat any given day, not whether the food is processed or not, by any definition.
And why the heck am I suddenly craving Twinkies at 9 in the bloody morning!?
Maybe it's all this banana talk? The original Twinkies introduced in the 1930s were filled with banana cream. They had to be switched to vanilla cream when bananas became rationed during World War II.5 -
rebeccaculp87 wrote: »It's ok lol I had a McRib meal last night and didn't gain 5lbs but now I want vanilla ice cream.Hearts_2015 wrote: »
damn, I did it again!
I'm screwed guys - I had vanilla ice cream last night. TWICE!
But could you have lost even more weight if you wouldn't have (assuming your trying to lose weight)?0 -
rebeccaculp87 wrote: »It's ok lol I had a McRib meal last night and didn't gain 5lbs but now I want vanilla ice cream.Hearts_2015 wrote: »
damn, I did it again!
I'm screwed guys - I had vanilla ice cream last night. TWICE!
But could you have lost even more weight if you wouldn't have (assuming your trying to lose weight)?
Losing as much weight as fast as possible is rarely a healthy goal for body or mind.
If that logic held true then everyone would be engaging in VLCD and not enjoying any treats in moderation. That's not physically or mentally healthy.3 -
To be honest no. When I limit myself I end up binge eating and being miserable. I gained 20lbs when I was trying to lose 10lbs because I would limit then binge, it was an unpleasant cycle.rebeccaculp87 wrote: »It's ok lol I had a McRib meal last night and didn't gain 5lbs but now I want vanilla ice cream.Hearts_2015 wrote: »
damn, I did it again!
I'm screwed guys - I had vanilla ice cream last night. TWICE!
But could you have lost even more weight if you wouldn't have (assuming your trying to lose weight)?
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rebeccaculp87 wrote: »To be honest no. When I limit myself I end up binge eating and being miserable. I gained 20lbs when I was trying to lose 10lbs because I would limit then binge, it was an unpleasant cycle.rebeccaculp87 wrote: »It's ok lol I had a McRib meal last night and didn't gain 5lbs but now I want vanilla ice cream.Hearts_2015 wrote: »
damn, I did it again!
I'm screwed guys - I had vanilla ice cream last night. TWICE!
But could you have lost even more weight if you wouldn't have (assuming your trying to lose weight)?
I'm glad you recognize that now. Being overly restrictive has only ever led me to failure, and then feeling worse about myself.5 -
My final time was a binge on celery. I wanted a candy bar and instead made a "healthy" choice to eat a piece of celery instead and kept eating celery til I vomited, that was it no more limiting food. Now it's everything in moderation.nutmegoreo wrote: »rebeccaculp87 wrote: »To be honest no. When I limit myself I end up binge eating and being miserable. I gained 20lbs when I was trying to lose 10lbs because I would limit then binge, it was an unpleasant cycle.rebeccaculp87 wrote: »It's ok lol I had a McRib meal last night and didn't gain 5lbs but now I want vanilla ice cream.Hearts_2015 wrote: »
damn, I did it again!
I'm screwed guys - I had vanilla ice cream last night. TWICE!
But could you have lost even more weight if you wouldn't have (assuming your trying to lose weight)?
I'm glad you recognize that now. Being overly restrictive has only ever led me to failure, and then feeling worse about myself.
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rebeccaculp87 wrote: »My final time was a binge on celery. I wanted a candy bar and instead made a "healthy" choice to eat a piece of celery instead and kept eating celery til I vomited, that was it no more limiting food. Now it's everything in moderation.nutmegoreo wrote: »rebeccaculp87 wrote: »To be honest no. When I limit myself I end up binge eating and being miserable. I gained 20lbs when I was trying to lose 10lbs because I would limit then binge, it was an unpleasant cycle.rebeccaculp87 wrote: »It's ok lol I had a McRib meal last night and didn't gain 5lbs but now I want vanilla ice cream.Hearts_2015 wrote: »
damn, I did it again!
I'm screwed guys - I had vanilla ice cream last night. TWICE!
But could you have lost even more weight if you wouldn't have (assuming your trying to lose weight)?
I'm glad you recognize that now. Being overly restrictive has only ever led me to failure, and then feeling worse about myself.
Oh gosh, it took me forever to learn to moderate ice cream (still have difficult days). But something about giving myself permission to let go of all the restrictions and BS that I had convinced myself was necessary to be healthy, I started feeling an emotional weight lift. It actually made it easier to stick with the calorie restriction because I knew that if I wanted a cookie or a beer, I could have it. If it took me over calories for that one day, that's fine because I was on track the rest of the week.3 -
rebeccaculp87 wrote: »It's ok lol I had a McRib meal last night and didn't gain 5lbs but now I want vanilla ice cream.Wynterbourne wrote: »This discussion is funny. In spite of everything I've learned and read about foods since deciding to get healthy, the only thing that has really changed is the quantity I eat any given day, not whether the food is processed or not, by any definition.
And why the heck am I suddenly craving Twinkies at 9 in the bloody morning!?
Maybe it's all this banana talk? The original Twinkies introduced in the 1930s were filled with banana cream. They had to be switched to vanilla cream when bananas became rationed during World War II.
Oh yeah
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rebeccaculp87 wrote: »It's ok lol I had a McRib meal last night and didn't gain 5lbs but now I want vanilla ice cream.Wynterbourne wrote: »This discussion is funny. In spite of everything I've learned and read about foods since deciding to get healthy, the only thing that has really changed is the quantity I eat any given day, not whether the food is processed or not, by any definition.
And why the heck am I suddenly craving Twinkies at 9 in the bloody morning!?
Maybe it's all this banana talk? The original Twinkies introduced in the 1930s were filled with banana cream. They had to be switched to vanilla cream when bananas became rationed during World War II.
Oh yeah
Sounds awesome.1 -
Wynterbourne wrote: »rebeccaculp87 wrote: »It's ok lol I had a McRib meal last night and didn't gain 5lbs but now I want vanilla ice cream.Wynterbourne wrote: »This discussion is funny. In spite of everything I've learned and read about foods since deciding to get healthy, the only thing that has really changed is the quantity I eat any given day, not whether the food is processed or not, by any definition.
And why the heck am I suddenly craving Twinkies at 9 in the bloody morning!?
Maybe it's all this banana talk? The original Twinkies introduced in the 1930s were filled with banana cream. They had to be switched to vanilla cream when bananas became rationed during World War II.
Oh yeah
Sounds awesome.
It is, and dangerous as well. My wife, and my youngest - these two women can take chalk and water and make a AAA dessert out of it lol.3
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