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So. What's the worst weight loss myth?
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Does every thread need to be turned into "sugar is addictive"? I come here wanting some funny shizzle to read at 6a and it's the SOSO "sugar is addictive" run-around. Makes me miss the days of "every overweight/obese person is IR" thread derails.
Sadly, it seems that every thread needs to devolve to this in the current culture. Wait and while and it will become something else that is demonized.
With that, getting back to the main topic, maybe the worst weight loss myth is that one(s) that demonize certain macro nutrients, food groups, food types, food colours, etc.
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redheaddee1974 wrote: »That a pound of fat weighs more than a pound of muscle.
NO.
One pound = one pound. I don't care if it's a pound of feathers or a pound of rocks.
Muscle is more DENSE thus takes up less space. Just like the brains of some of the folks on this site.
I'd bet you can't find a single example of someone saying "a pound of fat weighs more than a pound of muscle"8 -
SymbolismNZ wrote: »Does every thread need to be turned into "sugar is addictive"? I come here wanting some funny shizzle to read at 6a and it's the SOSO "sugar is addictive" run-around. Makes me miss the days of "every
So being this condescending when you don't actually read what is written doesn't really show off a charming character. And just because you're in denial and refuse to read the research doesn't make me accountable for your 6AM feelgood.
I like how you assume I didn't read anything. I also like how you read my post as condescending. I read your posts in The Comic Book Guy voice.
OT: Not really a myth because some people do confuse them - drinking water because hunger is actually thirst.18 -
Funny thread no longer funny makes me sad.....17 -
SymbolismNZ wrote: »Does every thread need to be turned into "sugar is addictive"? I come here wanting some funny shizzle to read at 6a and it's the SOSO "sugar is addictive" run-around. Makes me miss the days of "every
So being this condescending when you don't actually read what is written doesn't really show off a charming character. And just because you're in denial and refuse to read the research doesn't make me accountable for your 6AM feelgood.
I like how you assume I didn't read anything. I also like how you read my post as condescending. I read your posts in The Comic Book Guy voice.
OT: Not really a myth because some people do confuse them - drinking water because hunger is actually thirst.
Zyxst, I always find you to be exceptionally charming, as well as subtle, witty, debonair, and even occasionally...may I dare say it...dashing.
Also, I am cracking up...oh yes, the internet, will, indeed, hear of this.
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How about all of the products with labels that state they don't contain a particular ingredient that they never use for that product any way. I'm waiting to see fat-free flour, caffeine-free water, sugar-free lard...12
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Not sure if this is a myth or truth, but I hope that fasted cardio is on its way out. I just think that's a dangerous shortcut to fitness that's prone to make you pass out instead.0
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Not sure if this is a myth or truth, but I hope that fasted cardio is on its way out. I just think that's a dangerous shortcut to fitness that's prone to make you pass out instead.
For most healthy people the likelihood of fasted cardio resulting in passing out is pretty small. I have done up to 2 hour bike rides fasted, that is, no breakfast, with no light headedness, no lack of energy, or anything else. If I eat first I feel sluggish and uncomfortable. I don''t do fasted exercise because I think there is some magical extra fat burning, I do it because I prefer it over fed exercise. Frankly, by the morning, even after a night of not eating, there is plenty of energy stored in the body since it takes most of the night for the food of the last meal to digest and that food energy is available to use even when fasted.
Having said that, other people have real issues functioning fasted. They should not do fasted cardio because it will not benefit them at all.5 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Oh, current pet peeve, since it seems to be gaining prevalence, the idea that we get fat by eating foods our bodies "cannot process" or that making your metabolism "more efficient" would help weight loss.
Oh, goodness. My parents asked me about this last night. I hadn't read this thread and hadn't heard of this, but have lost 45 pounds in the last year or so and have a PhD in biochemistry so I guess they figured they would see what I thought of some video they'd watched. I pointed out that taking macronutriets from food and turning them into fat stored in adipose tissue was indeed "processing" the food and that if the food wasn't being "processed," it would come out the other end essentially unchanged...8 -
Not sure if this is a myth or truth, but I hope that fasted cardio is on its way out. I just think that's a dangerous shortcut to fitness that's prone to make you pass out instead.
I agree that for 95% of the population there is no benefits to fasted over non-fasted cardio. However there is some merit to fasted cardio for lean individuals (>10%) though. Lyle McDonalds "Stubborn Fat Solution" (SFS) is a protocol based on fasted cardio and is well renowned.0 -
Not sure if this is a myth or truth, but I hope that fasted cardio is on its way out. I just think that's a dangerous shortcut to fitness that's prone to make you pass out instead.
What do you mean by 'fasted cardio'? Like fasting for how long before? I mean I can hike all day on nothing other than water. Adding in sleeping that may qualify as "fasted". But if I eat anything before or during I'll vomit. So, I don't do that. Same is true for doing yard or garden work. I wait until I'm done to eat even if my tummy is growling. I've never passed out.
But I've learned that on MFP words don't always mean what they are intended to mean so perhaps the term means something else here.2 -
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That you have to lose weight to have value.9
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Not sure if this is a myth or truth, but I hope that fasted cardio is on its way out. I just think that's a dangerous shortcut to fitness that's prone to make you pass out instead.trigden1991 wrote: »Not sure if this is a myth or truth, but I hope that fasted cardio is on its way out. I just think that's a dangerous shortcut to fitness that's prone to make you pass out instead.
I agree that for 95% of the population there is no benefits to fasted over non-fasted cardio. However there is some merit to fasted cardio for lean individuals (>10%) though. Lyle McDonalds "Stubborn Fat Solution" (SFS) is a protocol based on fasted cardio and is well renowned.
Some of us do fasted cardio or even resistance training fasted for no other reason than eating or even drinking some protein shake before hand has adverse affects to our stomachs. If I eat before hand then I have a 2 or 3 hour weight before I can do any exercise at all.
Part of that could be due to the fact that I just can't eat until I have been up for at least 3 hours. Then by the time that food digests I am out of the mood to workout. So working out fasted just works better for me. I have never passed out or even felt weak...at least not from hunger.1 -
I'm guessing that depends on the person and the context. I know this may be irrelevant I've done several labs on either nothing but water or fed, and gotten true results. In terms of cardio, my best friend would define fasted as "absolutely nothing, not even water." I on the other hand am not sure how to define it. If I were fasting for, say, prayer, I would absolutely allow water. Your mileage may vary.0
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SymbolismNZ wrote: »https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2235907/
After a month on this intermittent-feeding schedule, the animals show a series of behaviors similar to the effects of drugs of abuse. These are categorized as “bingeing”, meaning unusually large bouts of intake, opiate-like “withdrawal” indicated by signs of anxiety and behavioral depression (Colantuoni et al., 2001, 2002), and “craving” measured during sugar abstinence as enhanced responding for sugar (Avena et al., 2005). There are also signs of both locomotor and consummatory “cross-sensitization” from sugar to drugs of abuse (Avena et al., 2004, Avena and Hoebel, 2003b). Having found these behaviors that are common to drug dependency with supporting evidence from other laboratories (Gosnell, 2005, Grimm et al., 2005, Wideman et al., 2005), the next question is why this happens.
All, let's try not to turn this into another battle over sugar addiction. If we want to continue that battle, let's utilize the below thread. It goes through a lot of the models and studies (both human/rat/mice).
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10226257/food-addiction-a-different-perspective/p1
I think maybe some people missed this so...0 -
That what works for one person will work for everyone in the exact same manner (you lost 5 lbs so I HAVE to lose the same). That one weekly weigh-in that results in a gain means you're doing something wrong. I'm constantly explaining to hysterical friends that our bodies fluctuate and to focus on the overall downward trend. The whole "give into your cravings so you don't binge later" theory. In theory (lol), sounds great. But at some point you have to learn to control/ignore your cravings because, at least in my experience, they're the reason for the weight gain to begin with. I can't agree enough with a previous post about people saying they can't possibly eat x number of calories (usually very low) yet they are overweight and having trouble losing. They're not being honest somewhere in their tracking. And if I see one more freakin' ad for garcinia and some colon cleanser...1
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andrea4736 wrote: »That what works for one person will work for everyone in the exact same manner (you lost 5 lbs so I HAVE to lose the same). That one weekly weigh-in that results in a gain means you're doing something wrong. I'm constantly explaining to hysterical friends that our bodies fluctuate and to focus on the overall downward trend. The whole "give into your cravings so you don't binge later" theory. In theory (lol), sounds great. But at some point you have to learn to control/ignore your cravings because, at least in my experience, they're the reason for the weight gain to begin with. I can't agree enough with a previous post about people saying they can't possibly eat x number of calories (usually very low) yet they are overweight and having trouble losing. They're not being honest somewhere in their tracking. And if I see one more freakin' ad for garcinia and some colon cleanser...
The bold that they are the reason for your weight gain is because of eating too many calories when you give in. If giving in leads to going way over your calorie goal, then giving in is a bad idea. If giving in is done in a way that allows you to incorporate that treat in moderation as PART of the whole days calorie goal without going over, then giving in, which should not be seen as giving in, is a good thing. It is part of retraining yourself to have say one or two cookies rather than the whole bag.7 -
rileysowner wrote: »
The bold that they are the reason for your weight gain is because of eating too many calories when you give in. If giving in leads to going way over your calorie goal, then giving in is a bad idea. If giving in is done in a way that allows you to incorporate that treat in moderation as PART of the whole days calorie goal without going over, then giving in, which should not be seen as giving in, is a good thing. It is part of retraining yourself to have say one or two cookies rather than the whole bag.
I agree completely. For me, my cravings are totally in my head. I'm not hungry, just craving a particular food which is how I got into trouble. I'd be at my calories for the day and be craving tacos, haha, and that happens all the time so I've had to learn to just ignore them.
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Myth: Oreos are bad for you.
I just sacrificed my own body by eating a package to test the myth, and I'm fine.
I'll show myself out now....24 -
Cutting out bread. Bread specifically. Not carbs, or white carbs, or anything like that, just bread. I had someone tell me that they were going to lose weight by cutting out the bread they usually have for lunch and replace them with.... noodles. The instant kind. Because bread is the devil, but noodles are fine.12
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Not sure if this is a myth or truth, but I hope that fasted cardio is on its way out. I just think that's a dangerous shortcut to fitness that's prone to make you pass out instead.
Well, there are myths about any supposed benefits to it, but as to it being dangerous?
Nah.
Plenty of people work out fasted all the time.
I'm one of them, because as Annie stated, I cannot do cardio with food in my stomach without experiencing nausea. Running is so much easier without food sloshing around in there.
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SymbolismNZ wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »PS. Alcohol doesn't contain sugar. It's lost in distillation.
It's converted to simple carbohydrates, which convert instantly to glucose within your system without any length of time required to digest it, meaning it's effectively the same as ingesting sugar; surely you're not this daft?
Please do link your research article showing long term negative effects of moderate marijuana usage; I'll show you 15 that disprove it.
Damnit, I was really hoping this one WAS a myth.0 -
lunaticfish7 wrote: »That you have to lose weight to have value.
That myth only exists in fat acceptance circles and is perpetuated as a false belief that thin people supposedly have. It's nonsense.
It's usually self-loathing that people have for themselves being projected.4 -
SymbolismNZ wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »PS. Alcohol doesn't contain sugar. It's lost in distillation.
It's converted to simple carbohydrates, which convert instantly to glucose within your system without any length of time required to digest it, meaning it's effectively the same as ingesting sugar; surely you're not this daft?
Please do link your research article showing long term negative effects of moderate marijuana usage; I'll show you 15 that disprove it.
Depends on the booze. A lot of it doesn't have much in the way of carbohydrates.
Insulting people isn't an effective debate technique.
Also, I said the research was new, and I heard a news report and allowed for it to be bad science reporting. You refuting it with old studies won't impress me against newer research, and I'm in the middle of cooking dinner.6 -
You get the respect you give; I've been respectful to a point, but having people refute stated evidence and state "Oh you're cherry picking", "Oh that's not right" while making no attempt to engage in a proper debate or discussion gets tiresome, and to that point, if you're propogating the same old *kitten* repeatedly that isn't accurate, I'm not going to keep nodding and smiling.
Take this for example "Oh I've seen recent research indicating moderate marijuana usage has long term health impacts" - but you won't post the research.
Sure, your clique of friends will like/awesome/inspiring your posts and you'll get a lot of kudos, but you're wrong.
Compare that to my responses to people who actually post their own research, debate the subject and don't rely on either "HAH, SUGAR ISN'T ADDICTIVE" when that has never been a point of contention I've made, or "HAH, WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH" when the reality is you don't seem to.6 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »cahubbard6421 wrote: »Losing weight will make you happy.
OMG, so much this!!
I'd never heard most of these 'myths' before joining this site, but this right here ^ is a huge one I think.
I can personally say it doesn't get rid of depression. I am happier with my new me, however. Am I really happy? I don't know.
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Also... don't all carbohdrates converting to glucose, so aren't they all just as bad as eating sugar?
Oh well. So much for our evening's stir fry. Might as well dump a chocolate bar on everyone's plate and be done with it.10 -
All I'm going to write is "Glycemic Index" and let you catch up on that statement.2
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