Teacher says Pop Tarts are not a healthy snack
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snickerscharlie wrote: »Ready2Rock206 wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »This irritates me too. My son for 5 years every day took only 3 plain bread rolls for his lunch. No butter no filling no fruit. Nothing else. That's what he wanted and that's what he had. I made sure it was all balanced with a big healthy sustaining breakfast and after school tea / dinner etc . This teacher has no idea of what else your kid eats in a day. I bet some of those tucking into An apple and hummus dip are eating KFC for dinner!
What's wrong with KFC? Chicken is an excellent source of lean protein.
It's the F of KFC.
Shhhh... Don't tell but they sell it grilled too.
And for the record, hummus isn't exactly low cal or low fat, either. It's just trendy and pretentious.
Like quinoa and chia seeds.
Which are now apparently passe, too.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-wine/food-news/88093154/forget-kale-and-chia-seeds-these-are-the-new-superfoods-for-2017
<Sigh> Who can keep up?
Hummus is a very popular food in the middle east and has been for quite some time. I would be really fascinated to understand what is pretentious about it.
I do agree that it is not low calorie or low fat.3 -
JennGardner1 wrote: »comptonelizabeth wrote: »
Where does she state that she regularly sends her child to school with a whole packet?
This thread is like a game of Chinese Whispers.
Typically for a teacher to contact the parent it is a recurring issue. Even if it's only once in awhile, only a moron would claim healthy food is some sort of a myth. I get there is woo stuff and BroScience, but you can disbelieve that acai' berries are magical and still see that Pop Tarts are garbage food.
Some people have jumped to a lot of conclusions about the OP and didn't bother to do any investigating.
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BruinsGal_91 wrote: »Confession time... I have never eaten a PopTart. After 14 pages telling me they are the food of the devil, I now want to eat an entire box of them. Which flavours are the best?
The Sea Bass flavored ones.
.... ask for them by name.1 -
trigden1991 wrote: »BruinsGal_91 wrote: »Confession time... I have never eaten a PopTart. After 14 pages telling me they are the food of the devil, I now want to eat an entire box of them. Which flavours are the best?
Prepare for disappointment in a packet.
Yeah. They really aren't that great. Some people swear by then but I've only ever sort of liked the frosted brown sugar ones.0 -
trigden1991 wrote: »BruinsGal_91 wrote: »Confession time... I have never eaten a PopTart. After 14 pages telling me they are the food of the devil, I now want to eat an entire box of them. Which flavours are the best?
Prepare for disappointment in a packet.
My feeling exactly! A couple of times I have been lured by some yummy-sounding new flavor only to be gravely disappointed! The dry, flavorless edges where they skimp on the frosting are the worst.
I didn't read the whole thread, but I would have at least liked the opportunity to provide my child's own snack each day. When my son was in kindergarten (we home school now), a different parent was assigned to provide the snack for the whole class each day (with the "healthy" stipulation). You never knew what they were going to get and if it was something they would eat. (I guarantee my son never touched a celery stick.)
Also, I was wondering- is this a relatively new thing? When I was in elementary school in the 70s, I sure don't remember daily snacks, even in kindergarten.0 -
So after reading and participating in this thread I've come to the conclusion that most people fit into one of two categories. The ones that see the composition of a diet as a whole (the balancing of nutrient dense and nutrient sparse foods to create and overall healthful diet) as most important and those that believe the micromanaging of each bite (no amount of refined sugar can ever be healthy and must be avoided in order to prevent obesity and death) as most important.
One is big picture thinking. The other can't see the forest for the trees thinking.12 -
vikinglander wrote: »I suppose if one was out on a long trail, or at Everest Base Camp, and burning 4000 + calories per day, Pop Tarts would be an OK part of a 'balanced diet'...
Thoughts?
Two of my kids eat them a few times a week (they usually split the package) and they're healthy and thin, just doing every day kid stuff They eat a varied diet full of all sorts of foods. 3 -
vikinglander wrote: »I suppose if one was out on a long trail, or at Everest Base Camp, and burning 4000 + calories per day, Pop Tarts would be an OK part of a 'balanced diet'...
Thoughts?
Sure. More "junk foods" as a percent of total caloeies work as someone burns quite a bit more calories through hard core exercise.
For someone on 2000 calories a day a single 200 calorie pop tart would take up most of the suggested allotment of "junkfood".
Most of these people have enough respect for their bodies not to be fueling with pop tarts or similar items on a regular basis.1 -
"Teacher says pop tarts are not a healthy snack"
They are not a healthy snack. She is 100% correct!6 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The level of unadulterated woo and holier than thou judgement of a parent based on snack choice in this thread makes me sad.
This is why the "mean people" on MFP keep speaking up. Because there are so many people who honestly believe an occasional "processed" snack will kill you. Because there are so many people who believe it's healthy to be scared of food. Because there are so many who believe they are better, more virtuous people because they eat "clean". To the point that they would consider teaching a child that an occasional sweet treat is fine in the context of a healthy diet is child abuse. SMH. Scary stuff.
You don't have to teach a child that anything is fine or not fine to teach them to follow directions. And that seems to be the biggest point IMO. The teacher said don't bring pop-tarts as a snack. So ... don't bring them. Period. End of story.
Teachers deal with enough crap without every parent with a dieting beef choosing school as a place to get up on a soapbox.
One more time. The teacher never told the parent to not pack a pop tart. She was lazy, didn't define what snacks qualified and then punished the child for something that was out of his control. THAT was the OP's issue. There never would have been a thread if the teacher had taken the five minutes to either define what snacks were acceptable initially or to inform the parent after the fact. She did neither of those things and because of that, it precipitated a second classroom occurance.
Everyone is so caught up in the title of the thread that they either don't read the post or use this as an excuse to soapbox about the evils of processed foods, going so far as to hint at child abuse.
The teacher was wrong. For everyone asking what the OP expected? Probably for people to take the time to read and comprehend the actual issue and not be distracted by buzzwords only.
I blame buzzfeed (and other similar systems) for the level of reading comprehension and critical thinking evident in this thread.16 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The level of unadulterated woo and holier than thou judgement of a parent based on snack choice in this thread makes me sad.
This is why the "mean people" on MFP keep speaking up. Because there are so many people who honestly believe an occasional "processed" snack will kill you. Because there are so many people who believe it's healthy to be scared of food. Because there are so many who believe they are better, more virtuous people because they eat "clean". To the point that they would consider teaching a child that an occasional sweet treat is fine in the context of a healthy diet is child abuse. SMH. Scary stuff.
You don't have to teach a child that anything is fine or not fine to teach them to follow directions. And that seems to be the biggest point IMO. The teacher said don't bring pop-tarts as a snack. So ... don't bring them. Period. End of story.
Teachers deal with enough crap without every parent with a dieting beef choosing school as a place to get up on a soapbox.
But she didn't say it to the parent. She said it to the child. That is what the op was upset about9 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The level of unadulterated woo and holier than thou judgement of a parent based on snack choice in this thread makes me sad.
This is why the "mean people" on MFP keep speaking up. Because there are so many people who honestly believe an occasional "processed" snack will kill you. Because there are so many people who believe it's healthy to be scared of food. Because there are so many who believe they are better, more virtuous people because they eat "clean". To the point that they would consider teaching a child that an occasional sweet treat is fine in the context of a healthy diet is child abuse. SMH. Scary stuff.
You don't have to teach a child that anything is fine or not fine to teach them to follow directions. And that seems to be the biggest point IMO. The teacher said don't bring pop-tarts as a snack. So ... don't bring them. Period. End of story.
Teachers deal with enough crap without every parent with a dieting beef choosing school as a place to get up on a soapbox.
One more time. The teacher never told the parent to not pack a pop tart. She was lazy, didn't define what snacks qualified and then punished the child for something that was out of his control. THAT was the OPs issue. There never would have been a thread if the teacher had take the five minutes to either define what snacks were acceptable initially or to inform the parent after the fact. She did neither of those things and because of that, it precipitated a second classroom occurance.
Everyone is so caught up in the title of the thread that they either don't read the post or use this as an excuse to soapbox about the evils of processed foods, going so far as to hint a child abuse.
The teacher was wrong. For everyone asking what the OP expected? Probably for people to take the time to read and comprehend the actual issue and not be distracted by buzzwords only.
I blame buzzfeed (and other similar systems) for the level of reading comprehension and critiacal thinking evident in this thread.
This.
OP I'd just ask the mods to delete this thread
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The level of unadulterated woo and holier than thou judgement of a parent based on snack choice in this thread makes me sad.
This is why the "mean people" on MFP keep speaking up. Because there are so many people who honestly believe an occasional "processed" snack will kill you. Because there are so many people who believe it's healthy to be scared of food. Because there are so many who believe they are better, more virtuous people because they eat "clean". To the point that they would consider teaching a child that an occasional sweet treat is fine in the context of a healthy diet is child abuse. SMH. Scary stuff.
You don't have to teach a child that anything is fine or not fine to teach them to follow directions. And that seems to be the biggest point IMO. The teacher said don't bring pop-tarts as a snack. So ... don't bring them. Period. End of story.
Teachers deal with enough crap without every parent with a dieting beef choosing school as a place to get up on a soapbox.
One more time. The teacher never told the parent to not pack a pop tart. She was lazy, didn't define what snacks qualified and then punished the child for something that was out of his control. THAT was the OPs issue. There never would have been a thread if the teacher had take the five minutes to either define what snacks were acceptable initially or to inform the parent after the fact. She did neither of those things and because of that, it precipitated a second classroom occurance.
Everyone is so caught up in the title of the thread that they either don't read the post or use this as an excuse to soapbox about the evils of processed foods, going so far as to hint a child abuse.
The teacher was wrong. For everyone asking what the OP expected? Probably for people to take the time to read and comprehend the actual issue and not be distracted by buzzwords only.
I blame buzzfeed (and other similar systems) for the level of reading comprehension and critiacal thinking evident in this thread.
The OP is very clear that she was upset because the teacher told her son pop-tarts were not healthy.2 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The level of unadulterated woo and holier than thou judgement of a parent based on snack choice in this thread makes me sad.
This is why the "mean people" on MFP keep speaking up. Because there are so many people who honestly believe an occasional "processed" snack will kill you. Because there are so many people who believe it's healthy to be scared of food. Because there are so many who believe they are better, more virtuous people because they eat "clean". To the point that they would consider teaching a child that an occasional sweet treat is fine in the context of a healthy diet is child abuse. SMH. Scary stuff.
You don't have to teach a child that anything is fine or not fine to teach them to follow directions. And that seems to be the biggest point IMO. The teacher said don't bring pop-tarts as a snack. So ... don't bring them. Period. End of story.
Teachers deal with enough crap without every parent with a dieting beef choosing school as a place to get up on a soapbox.
One more time. The teacher never told the parent to not pack a pop tart. She was lazy, didn't define what snacks qualified and then punished the child for something that was out of his control. THAT was the OPs issue. There never would have been a thread if the teacher had take the five minutes to either define what snacks were acceptable initially or to inform the parent after the fact. She did neither of those things and because of that, it precipitated a second classroom occurance.
Everyone is so caught up in the title of the thread that they either don't read the post or use this as an excuse to soapbox about the evils of processed foods, going so far as to hint a child abuse.
The teacher was wrong. For everyone asking what the OP expected? Probably for people to take the time to read and comprehend the actual issue and not be distracted by buzzwords only.
I blame buzzfeed (and other similar systems) for the level of reading comprehension and critiacal thinking evident in this thread.
The OP is very clear that she was upset because the teacher told her son pop-tarts were not healthy.
Exactly! She told the son, not the parent. I'm so glad we finally agree!7 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »Ready2Rock206 wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »This irritates me too. My son for 5 years every day took only 3 plain bread rolls for his lunch. No butter no filling no fruit. Nothing else. That's what he wanted and that's what he had. I made sure it was all balanced with a big healthy sustaining breakfast and after school tea / dinner etc . This teacher has no idea of what else your kid eats in a day. I bet some of those tucking into An apple and hummus dip are eating KFC for dinner!
What's wrong with KFC? Chicken is an excellent source of lean protein.
It's the F of KFC.
Shhhh... Don't tell but they sell it grilled too.
And for the record, hummus isn't exactly low cal or low fat, either. It's just trendy and pretentious.
Like quinoa and chia seeds.
Which are now apparently passe, too.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-wine/food-news/88093154/forget-kale-and-chia-seeds-these-are-the-new-superfoods-for-2017
<Sigh> Who can keep up?
Hummus is a very popular food in the middle east and has been for quite some time. I would be really fascinated to understand what is pretentious about it.
I do agree that it is not low calorie or low fat.
Quinoa, acai berries and chia seeds are other examples of many foods that have been eaten for a long time in their countries/cultures of origin, but have only recently come to the world's attention (and their plates) by being touted as a "Superfood" - whatever the heck that means.
So I didn't mean to imply that the people from the originating culture or country that the food is from are pretentious for eating these items that have been a part of their regional cuisine from the start. Not what I meant by a long shot, and I apologise if that was the inference derived.
What *is* pretentious to me, however, is that people who'd never even heard of these foods before they were touted as the newest, greatest and healthiest things in the history of food, (Thanks, Doctor Oz!) then jump on the bandwagon, if only because they want to be seen as cutting edge, trendy, or somehow more knowledgeable (and therefore superior) to anyone who hasn't "seen the light" and included them in their repertoire as well. And that, for me, is where the pretentiousness comes into play.
Again, apologies for that not having been made clearer originally. 2 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »BruinsGal_91 wrote: »Confession time... I have never eaten a PopTart. After 14 pages telling me they are the food of the devil, I now want to eat an entire box of them. Which flavours are the best?
There are a lot of new flavors, but when I was a kid, my favorites were anything with frosting and crunchy stuff on it.
Correct. The flavor doesn't really matter.
Yeah, brown cardboard tastes just like white.2 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »Ready2Rock206 wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »This irritates me too. My son for 5 years every day took only 3 plain bread rolls for his lunch. No butter no filling no fruit. Nothing else. That's what he wanted and that's what he had. I made sure it was all balanced with a big healthy sustaining breakfast and after school tea / dinner etc . This teacher has no idea of what else your kid eats in a day. I bet some of those tucking into An apple and hummus dip are eating KFC for dinner!
What's wrong with KFC? Chicken is an excellent source of lean protein.
It's the F of KFC.
Shhhh... Don't tell but they sell it grilled too.
And for the record, hummus isn't exactly low cal or low fat, either. It's just trendy and pretentious.
Like quinoa and chia seeds.
Which are now apparently passe, too.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-wine/food-news/88093154/forget-kale-and-chia-seeds-these-are-the-new-superfoods-for-2017
<Sigh> Who can keep up?
Hummus is a very popular food in the middle east and has been for quite some time. I would be really fascinated to understand what is pretentious about it.
I do agree that it is not low calorie or low fat.
Quinoa, acai berries and chia seeds are other examples of many foods that have been eaten for a long time in their countries/cultures of origin, but have only recently come to the world's attention (and their plates) by being touted as a "Superfood" - whatever the heck that means.
So I didn't mean to imply that the people from the originating culture or country that the food is from are pretentious for eating these items that have been a part of their regional cuisine from the start. Not what I meant by a long shot, and I apologise if that was the inference derived.
What *is* pretentious to me, however, is that people who'd never even heard of these foods before they were touted as the newest, greatest and healthiest things in the history of food, (Thanks, Doctor Oz!) then jump on the bandwagon, if only because they want to be seen as cutting edge, trendy, or somehow more knowledgeable (and therefore superior) to anyone who hasn't "seen the light" and included them in their repertoire as well. And that, for me, is where the pretentiousness comes into play.
Again, apologies for that not having been made clearer originally.
I eat a lot of foods I didn't grow up eating. I love to try new and different foods. I eat kale, quinoa and chia seeds. I only grew up eating one of them.1 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The level of unadulterated woo and holier than thou judgement of a parent based on snack choice in this thread makes me sad.
This is why the "mean people" on MFP keep speaking up. Because there are so many people who honestly believe an occasional "processed" snack will kill you. Because there are so many people who believe it's healthy to be scared of food. Because there are so many who believe they are better, more virtuous people because they eat "clean". To the point that they would consider teaching a child that an occasional sweet treat is fine in the context of a healthy diet is child abuse. SMH. Scary stuff.
You don't have to teach a child that anything is fine or not fine to teach them to follow directions. And that seems to be the biggest point IMO. The teacher said don't bring pop-tarts as a snack. So ... don't bring them. Period. End of story.
Teachers deal with enough crap without every parent with a dieting beef choosing school as a place to get up on a soapbox.
Everyone is so caught up in the title of the thread that they either don't read the post
So... Just another day at MFP.
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I wonder if the OP read the rules/policies and attended parent"s mertings/open houses at the school.
I'm sure this would have been addressed and any questions on healthy sbacks could have been asked.3 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The level of unadulterated woo and holier than thou judgement of a parent based on snack choice in this thread makes me sad.
This is why the "mean people" on MFP keep speaking up. Because there are so many people who honestly believe an occasional "processed" snack will kill you. Because there are so many people who believe it's healthy to be scared of food. Because there are so many who believe they are better, more virtuous people because they eat "clean". To the point that they would consider teaching a child that an occasional sweet treat is fine in the context of a healthy diet is child abuse. SMH. Scary stuff.
You don't have to teach a child that anything is fine or not fine to teach them to follow directions. And that seems to be the biggest point IMO. The teacher said don't bring pop-tarts as a snack. So ... don't bring them. Period. End of story.
Teachers deal with enough crap without every parent with a dieting beef choosing school as a place to get up on a soapbox.
Everyone is so caught up in the title of the thread that they either don't read the post
So... Just another day at MFP.
True. It's been a while since I've visited these forums. I'm just surprised at the change in tone. It's more like one of those baby forums where people cry abuse or bad parenting for the most benign stuff.
It's not a positive change. It's actually a bit creepy. The demographic has shifted.0 -
I hear pop tarts is coming out with a new flavor, whole grain quinoa acai berry sweetened with artificial chocolate drizzle and all natural smugness.8
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Packerjohn wrote: »I wonder if the OP read the rules/policies and attended parent"s mertings/open houses at the school.
I'm sure this would have been addressed and any questions on healthy sbacks could have been asked.
You've been in the thread for long enough to know that it was not.3 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The level of unadulterated woo and holier than thou judgement of a parent based on snack choice in this thread makes me sad.
This is why the "mean people" on MFP keep speaking up. Because there are so many people who honestly believe an occasional "processed" snack will kill you. Because there are so many people who believe it's healthy to be scared of food. Because there are so many who believe they are better, more virtuous people because they eat "clean". To the point that they would consider teaching a child that an occasional sweet treat is fine in the context of a healthy diet is child abuse. SMH. Scary stuff.
You don't have to teach a child that anything is fine or not fine to teach them to follow directions. And that seems to be the biggest point IMO. The teacher said don't bring pop-tarts as a snack. So ... don't bring them. Period. End of story.
Teachers deal with enough crap without every parent with a dieting beef choosing school as a place to get up on a soapbox.
One more time. The teacher never told the parent to not pack a pop tart. She was lazy, didn't define what snacks qualified and then punished the child for something that was out of his control. THAT was the OP's issue. There never would have been a thread if the teacher had taken the five minutes to either define what snacks were acceptable initially or to inform the parent after the fact. She did neither of those things and because of that, it precipitated a second classroom occurance.
Everyone is so caught up in the title of the thread that they either don't read the post or use this as an excuse to soapbox about the evils of processed foods, going so far as to hint at child abuse.
The teacher was wrong. For everyone asking what the OP expected? Probably for people to take the time to read and comprehend the actual issue and not be distracted by buzzwords only.
I blame buzzfeed (and other similar systems) for the level of reading comprehension and critical thinking evident in this thread.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The level of unadulterated woo and holier than thou judgement of a parent based on snack choice in this thread makes me sad.
This is why the "mean people" on MFP keep speaking up. Because there are so many people who honestly believe an occasional "processed" snack will kill you. Because there are so many people who believe it's healthy to be scared of food. Because there are so many who believe they are better, more virtuous people because they eat "clean". To the point that they would consider teaching a child that an occasional sweet treat is fine in the context of a healthy diet is child abuse. SMH. Scary stuff.
You don't have to teach a child that anything is fine or not fine to teach them to follow directions. And that seems to be the biggest point IMO. The teacher said don't bring pop-tarts as a snack. So ... don't bring them. Period. End of story.
Teachers deal with enough crap without every parent with a dieting beef choosing school as a place to get up on a soapbox.
One more time. The teacher never told the parent to not pack a pop tart. She was lazy, didn't define what snacks qualified and then punished the child for something that was out of his control. THAT was the OPs issue. There never would have been a thread if the teacher had take the five minutes to either define what snacks were acceptable initially or to inform the parent after the fact. She did neither of those things and because of that, it precipitated a second classroom occurance.
Everyone is so caught up in the title of the thread that they either don't read the post or use this as an excuse to soapbox about the evils of processed foods, going so far as to hint a child abuse.
The teacher was wrong. For everyone asking what the OP expected? Probably for people to take the time to read and comprehend the actual issue and not be distracted by buzzwords only.
I blame buzzfeed (and other similar systems) for the level of reading comprehension and critiacal thinking evident in this thread.
The OP is very clear that she was upset because the teacher told her son pop-tarts were not healthy.
Exactly! She told the son, not the parent. I'm so glad we finally agree!
I'm confused by your response. Of course I agree that the teacher told the son. As much as I can agree, that is. I mean, I'm taking the OP's word for it as I assume you are so why would we disagree on that point?0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »Ready2Rock206 wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »This irritates me too. My son for 5 years every day took only 3 plain bread rolls for his lunch. No butter no filling no fruit. Nothing else. That's what he wanted and that's what he had. I made sure it was all balanced with a big healthy sustaining breakfast and after school tea / dinner etc . This teacher has no idea of what else your kid eats in a day. I bet some of those tucking into An apple and hummus dip are eating KFC for dinner!
What's wrong with KFC? Chicken is an excellent source of lean protein.
It's the F of KFC.
Shhhh... Don't tell but they sell it grilled too.
And for the record, hummus isn't exactly low cal or low fat, either. It's just trendy and pretentious.
Like quinoa and chia seeds.
Which are now apparently passe, too.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-wine/food-news/88093154/forget-kale-and-chia-seeds-these-are-the-new-superfoods-for-2017
<Sigh> Who can keep up?
Hummus is a very popular food in the middle east and has been for quite some time. I would be really fascinated to understand what is pretentious about it.
I do agree that it is not low calorie or low fat.
Quinoa, acai berries and chia seeds are other examples of many foods that have been eaten for a long time in their countries/cultures of origin, but have only recently come to the world's attention (and their plates) by being touted as a "Superfood" - whatever the heck that means.
So I didn't mean to imply that the people from the originating culture or country that the food is from are pretentious for eating these items that have been a part of their regional cuisine from the start. Not what I meant by a long shot, and I apologise if that was the inference derived.
What *is* pretentious to me, however, is that people who'd never even heard of these foods before they were touted as the newest, greatest and healthiest things in the history of food, (Thanks, Doctor Oz!) then jump on the bandwagon, if only because they want to be seen as cutting edge, trendy, or somehow more knowledgeable (and therefore superior) to anyone who hasn't "seen the light" and included them in their repertoire as well. And that, for me, is where the pretentiousness comes into play.
Again, apologies for that not having been made clearer originally.
I eat a lot of foods I didn't grow up eating. I love to try new and different foods. I eat kale, quinoa and chia seeds. I only grew up eating one of them.
I eat a lot of foods I didn't grow up with, either.
But I eat them solely because I like them, and not because some quack on TV has decided that it's some sort of magical mystical cure that all of mankind would be incredibly wise to incorporate into their diet, stat. 2 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The level of unadulterated woo and holier than thou judgement of a parent based on snack choice in this thread makes me sad.
This is why the "mean people" on MFP keep speaking up. Because there are so many people who honestly believe an occasional "processed" snack will kill you. Because there are so many people who believe it's healthy to be scared of food. Because there are so many who believe they are better, more virtuous people because they eat "clean". To the point that they would consider teaching a child that an occasional sweet treat is fine in the context of a healthy diet is child abuse. SMH. Scary stuff.
You don't have to teach a child that anything is fine or not fine to teach them to follow directions. And that seems to be the biggest point IMO. The teacher said don't bring pop-tarts as a snack. So ... don't bring them. Period. End of story.
Teachers deal with enough crap without every parent with a dieting beef choosing school as a place to get up on a soapbox.
One more time. The teacher never told the parent to not pack a pop tart. She was lazy, didn't define what snacks qualified and then punished the child for something that was out of his control. THAT was the OPs issue. There never would have been a thread if the teacher had take the five minutes to either define what snacks were acceptable initially or to inform the parent after the fact. She did neither of those things and because of that, it precipitated a second classroom occurance.
Everyone is so caught up in the title of the thread that they either don't read the post or use this as an excuse to soapbox about the evils of processed foods, going so far as to hint a child abuse.
The teacher was wrong. For everyone asking what the OP expected? Probably for people to take the time to read and comprehend the actual issue and not be distracted by buzzwords only.
I blame buzzfeed (and other similar systems) for the level of reading comprehension and critiacal thinking evident in this thread.
The OP is very clear that she was upset because the teacher told her son pop-tarts were not healthy.
Exactly! She told the son, not the parent. I'm so glad we finally agree!
I'm confused by your response. Of course I agree that the teacher told the son. As much as I can agree, that is. I mean, I'm taking the OP's word for it as I assume you are so why would we disagree on that point?
Bummer, I thought we'd found common ground, that the teacher should have told the parent about the issue since she's the one that packs the snack. I see you maintain that only telling the kindergartener was the wisest route to dealing with the issue.0 -
Packerjohn wrote: »I wonder if the OP read the rules/policies and attended parent"s mertings/open houses at the school.
I'm sure this would have been addressed and any questions on healthy sbacks could have been asked.
You've been in the thread for long enough to know that it was not.
May not have seen it but never saw where the OP had read the school policy on the subject0 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »Ready2Rock206 wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »This irritates me too. My son for 5 years every day took only 3 plain bread rolls for his lunch. No butter no filling no fruit. Nothing else. That's what he wanted and that's what he had. I made sure it was all balanced with a big healthy sustaining breakfast and after school tea / dinner etc . This teacher has no idea of what else your kid eats in a day. I bet some of those tucking into An apple and hummus dip are eating KFC for dinner!
What's wrong with KFC? Chicken is an excellent source of lean protein.
It's the F of KFC.
Shhhh... Don't tell but they sell it grilled too.
And for the record, hummus isn't exactly low cal or low fat, either. It's just trendy and pretentious.
Like quinoa and chia seeds.
Which are now apparently passe, too.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-wine/food-news/88093154/forget-kale-and-chia-seeds-these-are-the-new-superfoods-for-2017
<Sigh> Who can keep up?
Hummus is a very popular food in the middle east and has been for quite some time. I would be really fascinated to understand what is pretentious about it.
I do agree that it is not low calorie or low fat.
Quinoa, acai berries and chia seeds are other examples of many foods that have been eaten for a long time in their countries/cultures of origin, but have only recently come to the world's attention (and their plates) by being touted as a "Superfood" - whatever the heck that means.
So I didn't mean to imply that the people from the originating culture or country that the food is from are pretentious for eating these items that have been a part of their regional cuisine from the start. Not what I meant by a long shot, and I apologise if that was the inference derived.
What *is* pretentious to me, however, is that people who'd never even heard of these foods before they were touted as the newest, greatest and healthiest things in the history of food, (Thanks, Doctor Oz!) then jump on the bandwagon, if only because they want to be seen as cutting edge, trendy, or somehow more knowledgeable (and therefore superior) to anyone who hasn't "seen the light" and included them in their repertoire as well. And that, for me, is where the pretentiousness comes into play.
Again, apologies for that not having been made clearer originally.
I eat a lot of foods I didn't grow up eating. I love to try new and different foods. I eat kale, quinoa and chia seeds. I only grew up eating one of them.
I eat a lot of foods I didn't grow up with, either.
But I eat them solely because I like them, and not because some quack on TV has decided that it's some sort of magical mystical cure that all of mankind would be incredibly wise to incorporate into their diet, stat.
I'm so confused.
: I eat chia seeds for the fiber not the taste (I honestly have no idea what they taste like). But a quack on TV did not tell me to do eat them. Not sure now whether I'm pretentious or not. Oh wait, I don't care. 4 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The level of unadulterated woo and holier than thou judgement of a parent based on snack choice in this thread makes me sad.
This is why the "mean people" on MFP keep speaking up. Because there are so many people who honestly believe an occasional "processed" snack will kill you. Because there are so many people who believe it's healthy to be scared of food. Because there are so many who believe they are better, more virtuous people because they eat "clean". To the point that they would consider teaching a child that an occasional sweet treat is fine in the context of a healthy diet is child abuse. SMH. Scary stuff.
You don't have to teach a child that anything is fine or not fine to teach them to follow directions. And that seems to be the biggest point IMO. The teacher said don't bring pop-tarts as a snack. So ... don't bring them. Period. End of story.
Teachers deal with enough crap without every parent with a dieting beef choosing school as a place to get up on a soapbox.
One more time. The teacher never told the parent to not pack a pop tart. She was lazy, didn't define what snacks qualified and then punished the child for something that was out of his control. THAT was the OPs issue. There never would have been a thread if the teacher had take the five minutes to either define what snacks were acceptable initially or to inform the parent after the fact. She did neither of those things and because of that, it precipitated a second classroom occurance.
Everyone is so caught up in the title of the thread that they either don't read the post or use this as an excuse to soapbox about the evils of processed foods, going so far as to hint a child abuse.
The teacher was wrong. For everyone asking what the OP expected? Probably for people to take the time to read and comprehend the actual issue and not be distracted by buzzwords only.
I blame buzzfeed (and other similar systems) for the level of reading comprehension and critiacal thinking evident in this thread.
The OP is very clear that she was upset because the teacher told her son pop-tarts were not healthy.
Exactly! She told the son, not the parent. I'm so glad we finally agree!
I'm confused by your response. Of course I agree that the teacher told the son. As much as I can agree, that is. I mean, I'm taking the OP's word for it as I assume you are so why would we disagree on that point?
Bummer, I thought we'd found common ground, that the teacher should have told the parent about the issue since she's the one that packs the snack. I see you maintain that only telling the kindergartener was the wisest route to dealing with the issue.
I see nothing wrong with a teacher telling the child not to bring it. I wouldn't even consider it an "issue" if that happened to my child.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The level of unadulterated woo and holier than thou judgement of a parent based on snack choice in this thread makes me sad.
This is why the "mean people" on MFP keep speaking up. Because there are so many people who honestly believe an occasional "processed" snack will kill you. Because there are so many people who believe it's healthy to be scared of food. Because there are so many who believe they are better, more virtuous people because they eat "clean". To the point that they would consider teaching a child that an occasional sweet treat is fine in the context of a healthy diet is child abuse. SMH. Scary stuff.
You don't have to teach a child that anything is fine or not fine to teach them to follow directions. And that seems to be the biggest point IMO. The teacher said don't bring pop-tarts as a snack. So ... don't bring them. Period. End of story.
Teachers deal with enough crap without every parent with a dieting beef choosing school as a place to get up on a soapbox.
My comments were directed at the people saying that OP is a lazy, irresponsible, or even abusive parent for allowing her child to eat a Pop Tart. This thread has wandered far from what actually happened at this point.
I agree that respecting a teacher is an important concept to instill, and I kind of agree that if a teacher wants to ban specific foods from the classroom then it's not that big a deal. The whole issue stems from the way the teacher handled it. She took the snack away from the child, threw it out, leaving him without a snack, and told him it was because it was unhealthy. This embarrassed this child to the point he now no longer wants his mother to even buy Pop Tarts to be eaten at home. This is the exact opposite of the kind of relationship with food she wants her son to have, so she feels like the teacher undermined her. OP specifically said that they were given no healthy/unhealthy snack guidelines, and that she usually sends him with fruit.5
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