Gym Hogs Vent
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This is so true, in that case, you should probably not have read and responded to posts that you find annoying -- on a public forum.donjtomasco wrote: »Funny thing is, people who are bent out of shape by what I said don't have to read this thread and comment. You choose to do so. And I appreciate your opinion. But if I get ripped I might do some ripping too, since I did not start this thread to start a hullabaloo.
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I read all the post and have been reading them from the beginning. I call it like I see it. Making it seem like the gym is a place you can tap someone on the shoulder and they kindly accommodate you is crap. That is why there are gyms like planet fitness advertising "Judgment Free Zone". Call me what you want.1
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donjtomasco wrote: »Funny thing is, people who are bent out of shape by what I said don't have to read this thread and comment. You choose to do so. And I appreciate your opinion. But if I get ripped I might do some ripping too, since I did not start this thread to start a hullabaloo. I did not jump in this thread and take it sideways, I started it. Sounds like it might be helping some people get over their bad days and let off some steam which is not a bad thing. Glad it helps some if that's the case. I take no offense.
At the end of the day, I think all of this came down to having an expectation that wasn't met. I hope you're able to embrace the idea that asking to work in, asking how many more sets someone has, and waiting by a machine or bench (without being that creepy hovering guy) are all perfectly acceptable in a gym setting. I suspect it will make your time at the gym much more enjoyable and you may even meet some cool people along the way, if that's important to you.
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The way I see it, there are three options in such a situation:
1) Wait for him to get done.
2) Ask to work in.
3) Do an alternate exercise. Go do incline DB press, use one of the machines (we have machines which simulate incline press), dips, flat bench, flyes, pec deck machine, TRX straps, etc. There are alternate exercises for just about any movement you can think of and the world isn't going to end because you did flyes or flat bench instead of inclines for one workout, nor are all your muscles going to fall off.8 -
Like I said, very sensitive group. Keep em coming, it's all good.0
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From what I'm reading, the only "sensitive" ones on this thread are those saying everyone at the gym is mean and they are too scared to approach someone and ask them a simple question.donjtomasco wrote: »Like I said, very sensitive group. Keep em coming, it's all good.
Everyone else is suggesting you nut up instead of crying because you had to wait for something.
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I read all the post and have been reading them from the beginning. I call it like I see it. Making it seem like the gym is a place you can tap someone on the shoulder and they kindly accommodate you is crap. That is why there are gyms like planet fitness advertising "Judgment Free Zone". Call me what you want.
That's the judgiest gym out of all of them.
Lunk alarm?
No deadlifts?
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The way I see it, there are three options in such a situation:
1) Wait for him to get done.
2) Ask to work in.
3) Do an alternate exercise. Go do incline DB press, use one of the machines (we have machines which simulate incline press), dips, flat bench, flyes, pec deck machine, TRX straps, etc. There are alternate exercises for just about any movement you can think of and the world isn't going to end because you did flyes or flat bench instead of inclines for one workout, nor are all your muscles going to fall off.
4) Enroll at Planet Fitness,apparently.
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Are you done? Because I'd like to comment now.TresaAswegan wrote: »
From what I'm reading, the only "sensitive" ones on this thread are those saying everyone at the gym is mean and they are too scared to approach someone and ask them a simple question.donjtomasco wrote: »Like I said, very sensitive group. Keep em coming, it's all good.
Everyone else is suggesting you nut up instead of crying because you had to wait for something.
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Do what works for you forget the rest and push on. Your body your goals? Opinions are like *kitten* we all have one. I hope you have a better experience the next time you go to the gym.1
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snickerscharlie wrote: »I know rest times have been mentioned but for what it's worth:
If cutting your rest times short cause you to lift when you're not 100% ready, you are then reducing either the total number of repetitions done (lower total work done) or you are being forced to use a lower weight. Simply put, if you lift before you are ready to maximally perform, you are compromising work output.
Both of these are likely sub-optimal from a muscle growth standpoint and the latter is definitely sub-optimal from a strength standpoint.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26605807
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25047853
For either strength OR hypertrophy, you should usually rest until you are ready to perform maximally on the next set.
Would lack of recovery time not also raise the risk of injury?
It can if fatigue is preventing proper technique. This is one reason why I'm generally not a fan of very high volumes on technically demanding lifts that have a higher injury risk.
Example: Doing high rep deadlifts with low rest in between doesn't seem like a good idea to me.3 -
I read all the post and have been reading them from the beginning. I call it like I see it. Making it seem like the gym is a place you can tap someone on the shoulder and they kindly accommodate you is crap. That is why there are gyms like planet fitness advertising "Judgment Free Zone". Call me what you want.
what?
that has to do with the people asking- not the people using the equipment.
9/10 someone says "I have an anxiety problem- or I'm intemediated"- not "this guy was a douch and wouldn't let me work in"
I think I've seen the later twice since I've been on MFP- vs the former- which is easily a weekly thread. That's not the other member's problem though. We can't control other people's emotions or projections.
Planet Fitness exists as a marketing strategy to take advantage of peoples insecurities and make money. period.donjtomasco wrote: »I don't think I will complain about being called a she, I might upset JoRocks again. JoRocks, I don't recall saying that you don't have a life. Are you looking for a gold start sticker? The only thing that impressed me about your comment was that you take upwards of a 10 minute break between sets. I bet you are popular at the gym.....maybe you do that for attention, seems a little extreme. You definitely get the Participation Ribbon today!
that's because you didn't
As noted- I wasn't talking to you referring to me not having a life- that was someone else. Context matters. But thanks anyway!!!
BUT YAY I LOVE GOLD STICKY STARS!!!! That's the best part of my day!!!
Secondly- not that I give a rats a** about being popular in my gym- but the reality is I am a well known face there- and believe you me- no one has a problem working in with me- or me asking to work in with them.
It takes me over an hour to do my squats alone- of course I'm willing to allow people to work in. it's what we do.
It's what adults do- and how they share.
Which brings me to the next part- if you are going to vent on an open public forum then be prepared for people not to agree with you. And that's what happened. Shrug- that's on you. I don't get why you're even venting- this isn't the other members fault- this was an easily avoidable situation.
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I've not trained at a ton of different gyms precisely because I love it at my local YMCA and I don't plan on leaving unless I get booted.
That being said, I can say that I am definitely the guy who hogs equipment. Not because I'm super-setting, but because I take long rest periods.
However, I quite literally will ask people if they are waiting for the equipment if I see them lurking or looking, and I will make it abundantly clear that I'm more than happy to share, and I'll even swap the weights out, because I know that I'm occupying the equipment for a long time.
I can't comment on other gyms but I find the majority of people at my gym to be very happy to share, and it's also a great way to meet people.
To the OP:
I can certainly understand the hesitation with wanting to ask someone if you can work in when you see that they have a bunch of weight on the bar. I suspect that you'd have a similar experience to me, in that you'd discover that people are happy to share.
The only alternatives I could suggest aside from using a different gym or going at a different time, would be to consider whether or not you could choose a different exercise and still reach your goals. For example if they had more than one adjustable free bench, you could do incline DB press instead of BB press and perhaps that opens up more opportunity? Of course you'd only do this if it meets your goals.8 -
Soccermavrick wrote: »Next time carry the shotgun with you, it will probably go further than the letter.
Honestly I would have asked to work in, but not everyone likes doing that, but the gym is a community. Unfortunately if you are lifting solo it is too easy to lose track of time. Because four to five minutes between sets is NOT normal no matter how heavy you lift. (Obviously he does not have a life outside of the gym to get back to.) Muscle grow based on the amount stress put on them, not the amount of rest between sets, so you would probably be doing him a favor pacing him.
3-5 minutes is pretty standard for power lifting and that is my rest range on heavier lifts as well...3 -
I read all the post and have been reading them from the beginning. I call it like I see it. Making it seem like the gym is a place you can tap someone on the shoulder and they kindly accommodate you is crap. That is why there are gyms like planet fitness advertising "Judgment Free Zone". Call me what you want.
Not true at all in my experience. I have trained at perhaps a couple dozen gyms, which have covered quite a large variety from hardcore powerlifting gyms to some laid back, machine-only places. I often ask to work in with complete strangers, and have rarely ever been turned down.
Isn't Planet Fitness that place that is very judgmental towards people who like to train hard, people that look too fit, and people that drink water from large containers?7 -
Get swole and strong and they'll vacate with a pee puddle trail behind them. JMHSAO1
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HA- who flagged my commentary- can you please point out where I violated terms/conditions?
I'd like to know. Seems like a not particularly aggressive post to be flagging- but I mean- what do I know. I only have one gold star- so I"m not the head of the class.2 -
Snowflake did it...
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I read all the post and have been reading them from the beginning. I call it like I see it. Making it seem like the gym is a place you can tap someone on the shoulder and they kindly accommodate you is crap. That is why there are gyms like planet fitness advertising "Judgment Free Zone". Call me what you want.
But people really do try to accommodate each other. I've asked to work in with someone and someone has asked to work in with me, and we accommodated each other. I've hogged equipment and someone has asked if they could have the bar I currently wasn't using, and I've let them b/c I already had the squat rack and was being a hog; plus I knew a different move that could still work my glutes on the squat rack. Granted, I've only ever lifted at the YMCA, so maybe people are friendlier there. At the moment, a girl and I always go to the gym at the same time and we both use the squat rack at the same time. While I'm resting she's on the rack, while I'm resting she's on the rack. It does really happen that way. It's just a matter of stepping out of one's comfort zone and asking. I get it, it's hard; especially, if you're an introvert like me, but it can be done.
ETA: God I can't believe I screwed up the 'your' 'you're' grammar!6 -
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You were flagged cuz you melted a snowflake, they were offended.
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Sorry?
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I read all the post and have been reading them from the beginning. I call it like I see it. Making it seem like the gym is a place you can tap someone on the shoulder and they kindly accommodate you is crap. That is why there are gyms like planet fitness advertising "Judgment Free Zone". Call me what you want.
But people really do try to accommodate each other. I've asked to work in with someone and someone has asked to work in with me, and we accommodated each other. I've hogged equipment and someone has asked if they could have the bar I currently wasn't using, and I've let them b/c I already had the squat rack and was being a hog; plus I knew a different move that could still work my glutes on the squat rack. Granted, I've only ever lifted at the YMCA, so maybe people are friendlier there. At the moment, a girl and I always go to the gym at the same time and we both use the squat rack at the same time. While I'm resting she's on the rack, while I'm resting she's on the rack. It does really happen that way. It's just a matter of stepping out of one's comfort zone and asking. I get it, it's hard; especially, if your an introvert like me, but it can be done.
I couldn't agree more. It was really hard for me to go out of my comfort zone at first, but now most of the regulars and I are on a fist bump basis lol. People have even offered to let me use their personal liquid chalk and helped load/unload the bar. Nicest people I have met have been at the gym.3 -
Ugh. We had a similar issue at our gym Tuesday. 2 flat benches for bench press. People waiting. We did incline first while this guy sits on the flatbbench, staring into space for 5 minutes. He does 1 rep, sits up and stares into space for another 5 minutes. After my husband and I each finish 4 sets on the incline, we walk towards the flat bench, thinking he's gotta be done because he's getting up. Nope. He gets up, puts his jacket on the bench and walks out of the weight room. We move to the fly machine and each do 3 sets there while he continues to stare into space and do one rep. We finally finish that and stand there, waiting for the flat bench. He FINALLY gets done with whatever he was doing and goes to another area. Even so, he left chalk all over the bar, which our gym has asked people not to do.
I can handle the weight slammer, the BO people, and even the ones who don't wipe stuff down. It's just really frustrating when people aren't aware of others waiting on equipment.1 -
jagodfrey08 wrote: »Ugh. We had a similar issue at our gym Tuesday. 2 flat benches for bench press. People waiting. We did incline first while this guy sits on the flatbbench, staring into space for 5 minutes. He does 1 rep, sits up and stares into space for another 5 minutes. After my husband and I each finish 4 sets on the incline, we walk towards the flat bench, thinking he's gotta be done because he's getting up. Nope. He gets up, puts his jacket on the bench and walks out of the weight room. We move to the fly machine and each do 3 sets there while he continues to stare into space and do one rep. We finally finish that and stand there, waiting for the flat bench. He FINALLY gets done with whatever he was doing and goes to another area. Even so, he left chalk all over the bar, which our gym has asked people not to do.
I can handle the weight slammer, the BO people, and even the ones who don't wipe stuff down. It's just really frustrating when people are so rude.
Edited to include - This guy did not even appear to be a powerlifting, and he didn't not have a what would be considered heavy weights on the bar.
Maybe he has health issues and has to take things slowly? I have to take long rests,though I work out at home so it doesn't affect anyone else.0 -
jagodfrey08 wrote: »Ugh. We had a similar issue at our gym Tuesday. 2 flat benches for bench press. People waiting. We did incline first while this guy sits on the flatbbench, staring into space for 5 minutes. He does 1 rep, sits up and stares into space for another 5 minutes. After my husband and I each finish 4 sets on the incline, we walk towards the flat bench, thinking he's gotta be done because he's getting up. Nope. He gets up, puts his jacket on the bench and walks out of the weight room. We move to the fly machine and each do 3 sets there while he continues to stare into space and do one rep. We finally finish that and stand there, waiting for the flat bench. He FINALLY gets done with whatever he was doing and goes to another area. Even so, he left chalk all over the bar, which our gym has asked people not to do.
I can handle the weight slammer, the BO people, and even the ones who don't wipe stuff down. It's just really frustrating when people are so rude.
Edited to include - This guy did not even appear to be a powerlifting, and he didn't not have a what would be considered heavy weights on the bar.
Everyone's 'heavy' is different though and singles are common. Once again, this is a case of 'you should ask to work in'.6 -
^ Heavy singles and Long rests, another common powerlifting/strength training style. He probably wasn't trying to be rude, he was just doing his workout.
I often walk away from the weights when doing heavy squats/deads to use the restroom. I could pee on the floor of people would prefer that....6 -
We did our best to work around and wait, but it's just inconsiderate honestly. When the gym is that packed, you shouldn't spend that much time, sitting on a bench, especially if people are waiting.1
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I guess I'm in the minority, but it sounds like dude was just being a *kitten*.
Yes, it's possible he was just resting between sets, but the whole checking himself out in the mirror bit after each set and going to get a sip of water after each set just seems excessive.2 -
jagodfrey08 wrote: »We did our best to work around and wait, but it's just inconsiderate honestly. When the gym is that packed, you shouldn't spend that much time, sitting on a bench, especially if people are waiting.
Again, how is a person to know people are waiting if you never approach them about it?
I don't really see how completing a workout as programmed (when no one has asked about the equipment) is inconsiderate.5
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