February 2017 Running Challenge
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@lporter229 thanks! I may not be near any grandiose national parks or anything, but I think the lower Hudson Valley and Palisades have a beauty all their own! My grandma is adorable and always calls the Hudson the Beautiful Majestic Hudson (which my dad shortened to the BMH - he's the king of acronyms )2
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Planned Races
2/11 - Red Flannel Run 5 Mile
4/8 - Beer and Bagel "Off Road"
5/13 - Market to Market Relay
6/3 - Dam to Dam HM
10/15 - IMT Des Moines HM
@karllundy - your post reminds me that I might *think* about doing the Dam to Dam HM. I could combine that with my summer Iowa family visit. Is it a good race? I'm thinking there would be some pretty good hills in that area. It's a little early for when I was planning to start HM training though so not sure it's the best plan, but maybe...0 -
KatieJane83 wrote: »@lporter229 thanks! I may not be near any grandiose national parks or anything, but I think the lower Hudson Valley and Palisades have a beauty all their own! My grandma is adorable and always calls the Hudson the Beautiful Majestic Hudson (which my dad shortened to the BMH - he's the king of acronyms )
Me neither - more than 500 miles from a national park, but there are a few decent state and city parks within 150 mile radius.1 -
Oh, I wanted to post the trail I frequently run - but this is from snowshoeing this morning, not running.
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Had a couple of days off (life) whilst working myself up to throwing myself properly into my maratahon training plan. In reality I will start on Monday (as have my daughter this weekend) but had opportunity to get out for a run at lunch time today before picking her up.
I was slightly worried setting out as haven't been feeling great last couple of days (more mental than physical) and was going to be a cold and windy one. Anyway, I gritted my teeth and headed out, and was so glad I did. Today was another point-to-point run (~11k) with a time limit, and literally for the first time since before Christmas I felt better as the run went on and could have gone on longer today if I had needed to, so that's a good sign.
Also, the wind turned out to be a cross-tail wind for most of the run so didn't feel too cold, despite the occasional snow flurries reminding me it was! All in all feel a lot better/more confident going into proper training next week.
01-Feb: 1.7km treadmill intervals [TM]
02-Feb: 3.4k treadmill [TM]
05-Feb: 6.6k + 5.5k easy
06-Feb: 7.5k tempo
07-Feb: 4.1k easy
10-Feb: 11.5k MP
2017 Confirmed Races:
19-Mar: Richmond Half Marathon
14-May: Bexhill Starfish Marathon0 -
My calves are STILL sore ftom Wednesday. I'm planning to run tonight regardless, but I may have to keep it short. Just weird. Last time I ran 10 I didn't have this much soreness.0
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@katiejane83 I grew up doing ballet and ice skating so I've always loved dancing. I used to do Zumba quite a bit, but as I started doing long runs on Saturdays, Zumba fell by the wayside. I'm now doing my long runs on Sundays so it wouldn't be as difficult to get back to Zumba on Saturday mornings. It's so much fun and we have a great instructor at the gym. It feels like I'm at a night club, but sober, dancing at 8:30 am with people young and old. Lol!
@lporter229 Yeah, I can't run there at night either, unless it's a social run. It's great during the day on weekends. I still always bring my pepper spray with me there. Some parts have lots of people, but there are parts of the trail where I'm all by myself that aren't in the best areas of town.
@katharmonic Such pretty snow pictures!! Highs in the 70s by me. Lol!
@garygse So sorry about the damage!! Sounds like a nightmare something that would happen in a Chevy Chase National Lampoons movie. Hope you get it fixed soon!3 -
Just popping in to say hello. Work and being mom have been killing me this week. I don't think I've been home before 8 once this week. Got up to run this morning and heard the weather say "25 and cloudy early and 62 and sunny this afternoon" well 62 and sunny won, so I'm leaving work at 3:00 today come hell or high water and hitting the greenway on the way home.
Skip is working at 5K in the morning, if it's not yucky out I might do a last minute registration and run it.
Everyone is doing great. I'm loving all the pictures of areas you run and the snow.4 -
katharmonic wrote: »
@karllundy - your post reminds me that I might *think* about doing the Dam to Dam HM. I could combine that with my summer Iowa family visit. Is it a good race? I'm thinking there would be some pretty good hills in that area. It's a little early for when I was planning to start HM training though so not sure it's the best plan, but maybe...
I like it. There is one big hill about 6 miles in, otherwise it is slightly downhill most of the way. Last year, the sun was really hot, so in the last mile people were really suffering. I've only run it twice. It is well organized and pretty large, so it's a lot of fun for atmosphere.
Here's a link to the course.
http://www.damtodam.com/pdf/halfmarathoncourse.pdf1 -
@katharmonic- So pretty. I'll bet Stella had a blast. Lucky dog!2
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New HM world's record, wow I can't even imagine. Maybe for a 10K but not a HM!
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/02/peres-jepchirchir-breaks-womens-world-half-marathon-running-6506-2017-rak-half-marathon/
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Date Miles today - Miles for February
2/1 5 miles - 5
2/2 10miles - 15
2/3 5 miles - 20
2/4 18 miles - 38
2/5 REST DAY
2/6 10 miles - 48
2/7 10 miles - 58
2/7 5 miles - 63 << Daily Double and leg workout in the gym
2/8 5 miles - 68
2/9 7.5 miles - 75.5
2/10 REST DAY
Upcoming races:
UAH 8K - 3/6 <<< 34:33 3 in AG
Oak Barrel HM - 4/2 <<<< 1:38:00 3 in AG
Bridge Street HM - 4/10 <<< 1:36:33 3 in AG
PEO-AVN Team Day 5K - 5/4 <<< 19:10 (2.9 mi) 1 in AG 5 OA
Cotton Row Run 10K - 5/30 << 44:57 PR
Firecracker Chase 10.2 miler 6/25 << 1:20:22 1 in AG & 15 OA
Huntsville Half Marathon - 11/12 << 1:35:55 2 in AG & 25 OA
Rocket City Marathon - 12/10 << 2:44:41
Elkmont Hound Dog Half (unofficial) - 1/21 << 1:46:48 2 OA
Elkmont Hound Dog Half (rescheduled) - 2/18
Kentucky Derby Marathon - 4/29
I'm gonna rest up my tired muscles and get in a shorter long run tomorrow morning and then taper next week for my 1/2 next Saturday.
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skippygirlsmom wrote: »New HM world's record, wow I can't even imagine. Maybe for a 10K but not a HM!
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/02/peres-jepchirchir-breaks-womens-world-half-marathon-running-6506-2017-rak-half-marathon/
Wow!! I can't imagine running a 5K at that pace, much less maintaining it for 13.1 miles!
My husband descibes my HM finishes similar...like I'm falling apart. Except I'm going so much slower. Lol1 -
BeeerRunner wrote: »skippygirlsmom wrote: »New HM world's record, wow I can't even imagine. Maybe for a 10K but not a HM!
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/02/peres-jepchirchir-breaks-womens-world-half-marathon-running-6506-2017-rak-half-marathon/
Wow!! I can't imagine running a 5K at that pace, much less maintaining it for 13.1 miles!
My husband descibes my HM finishes similar...like I'm falling apart. Except I'm going so much slower. Lol
@beeerrunner ha ha me too!
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2/1/17 - 6 miles
2/3/17 - 12 miles
2/4/17 - 7 miles
2/5/17 - 7 miles
2/7/17 - 7.5 miles
2/8/17 - 6 miles
2/10/17 - 12 miles
Nearly all of my miles are on the treadmill. Today's 12 were no exception. I've got the aerobics step wedged under the back end, and when you put the incline on "6" the belt is dead level. So I ran 1/4 mile at "6," 1/4 mile at "12," 1/4 mile at "6" again, and 1/4 mile at "0," which is downhill. Repeat 11 more times. I think it's funny that it works out for me to run hills on my long run day, but if I try it on a shorter run, I push too fast and can't finish at all.0 -
Hello!
Goal: 100k
2/2: 3.1k easy, incline
2/4: 1.2k -abandoned
2/7: 1.5k -run/walk adductor testing, pain slightly
2/8: 2k -easy run, so easy a lvl 1 zombie could catch me. Adductor behaved better.
2/9: 1.5k -warmup for strength training-improvement
2/10: 6k -easy, testing adductor went good
Things are going better and better..
15.3/100k
Races:
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@skippygirlsmom - Your link is blocked at my work. What was it????0
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katharmonic wrote: »
^ THAT looks like heaven!
No running for me yesterday (4th day in a row). I didn't have to work late, and I had the ok from my wife to go out, but I found myself just wiped out from getting 4 hours of sleep a night this week.
I'm just about to leave work 2 hours early so I can go home and run as much as possible before my son's soccer game. Hoping that means about 10 to 12 miles. It's an unseasonable 44°F right now! That probably means cold slushy mud on the trails so I may stick to pavement.
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@ddmom0811 Paris is about 4 hours by train from where I live, 5-6 by car. So unfortunately not exactly around the corner, or I'd invite you for a coffee - or a run, or both
It sounds great that you found a running group you can join after strength training. Hopefully next time there'll be more people at your pace.
@OSUbuckeye906 How did your doctor checkup go? Are you cleared for running again?
@autumnblade75 You forgot to try out your new running shoes? That's not normal! At least this way they stay "new shoes" a little longer ^^
@ritzvin That photo is fantastic, soo cool!
@HonuNui I can't help with identifying your weird non-octupus. But I always love your pictures of sea critters, whatever they might be.
@lporter229 Skipping the speedwork sounds like a wise choice. I hope a nice easy run loosens up the tight muscles.
@katharmonic Very pretty winter wonderland!
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Yesterday was my speedwork day, with the goal of doing 5x800m intervals in 3:58-4:08min, with 400m recovery. The first four intervals were okay, in 3:58, 4:04, 4:02, 4:07 minutes. The last interval was a little messed up - just as I started, a car driver decided to drive out of the side street I was passing just in front of me and then all of a sudden stop, blocking the sidewalk. I wasn't so close that I was in danger of smashing into the car or anything, but it threw me off, and I had to slow down and get around him, so I aborted that interval and waited for the next 400m-lap-beep from my watch. Until then I had been running back and forth along the same street, because it's the flattest stretch of road near where I live, but the car encounter annoyed me enough that I decided to run the last 800m somewhere else. Which was stupid, because my chosen "somewhere else" included some zig-zagging and ~100m of unlit muddy path with slippery bridge. How I managed to end up with 4:18min despite that is a miracle...
One good thing: the toe that I stubbed on Monday is all but okay now - on Tuesday I had to abort my run after 3km because it hurt too much, Wednesday it started twinging after 4km (but not bad enough to stop), and now it doesn't hurt anymore, I just "notice" it a bit, if that makes any sense. Today is a rest day, tomorrow it should be fine completely.
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Out of curiosity: how does everyone decide at which pace to run intervals?
If I use a Jack Daniels calculator with my current half marathon time of 2:06, it spits out 4:14 for 800m intervals, 4:02 if I enter my goal time of 2:00. [I guess you should enter a current race time, but shouldn't I train based on the time I want to reach?]
If I enter my current 4:39 marathon time instead, it gives me 4:22; if I input my goal marathon time (4:25 in my very optimistic dreams ^^), it sais 4:10.
The McMillan calculator lets you enter both current and goal time, and then I get 3:58-4:08 for the HM times and 4:09-4:21 based on the marathon times.
I know my marathon time is slower than it should be compared to predictions based on other race PRs, but that's no surprise, since I only ran one marathon and my main goal was to finish; so I've decided to use the interval paces based on my half marathon time, and aim for 3:58-4:08min/HM. I'm just wondering if that's the right approach. Those intervals are damn hard! But my plan only foresees them every three weeks, I guess I'll survive that1 -
Thanks @karllundy! Looks like a big bump in the middle of the course Sounds like a fun race. I will mull over it. Last year I visited Iowa in June and it was so freaking hot. Gives me some pause. Of course the weather could be pretty much anything, who knows.
Date :::: Miles :::: Feb MTD (goal = 70)
02/01/17 :::: 2.6 :::: 2.6
02/02/17 :::: 3.1 :::: 5.7
02/03/17 :::: 2.6 :::: 8.3
02/04/17 :::: 6.8 :::: 15.1
02/05/17 :::: 4.0 :::: 19.1
02/06/17 :::: 3.7 :::: 22.8
02/07/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 22.8
02/08/17 :::: 3.3 :::: 26.1
02/09/17 :::: 2.6 :::: 28.7
02/10/17 :::: 3.1 :::: 31.8
And one more on the treadmill today during my unofficial snow day. Tomorrow I will do my long run outside, I swear.
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_nikkiwolf_ wrote: »@autumnblade75 You forgot to try out your new running shoes? That's not normal! At least this way they stay "new shoes" a little longer ^^
@_nikkiwolf_ Yeah, I don't even know what happened, there. They're a discontinued model, but they sent me 2 pair, and I paid all of $27.99. If I LOVE them, I should order a few more pair, while they're cheap. I probably won't be able to find any more if I wait until they need replacing.
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@katharmonic - Iowa weather is a crapshoot. 2 years ago that race was ~40° and drizzly.0
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The husband is working away and two of three kids are sick so mama had to bang out a midday tempo run while the bigs played around me and the baby napped. May go for more mileage later if sick baby allows, who knows.
February 1- 15km
February 2- 11km
February 3- 11.1km
February 4- 22km
February 5- 10km
February 6- 15.1km
February 7- 5.1km
February 8- 14km
February 9- 11km
February 10- 10km
126.3km/200km
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lporter229 wrote: »@skippygirlsmom - Your link is blocked at my work. What was it????
@lporter229 link to women's new world's record for HM 1:050 -
2/1 - 7 - 0 miles
2/8 - 3 miles
2/9 - 0 miles
2/10 - 4 miles
7 of 100 miles
Hip has been feeling fine, today at mile 3 I got a sharp pain in it. Hurt the last mile and now foot is feeling numb. Guess I'll need to call the doctor on Monday. It's funny I get hurt every year this time of year.0 -
2/1 - 4.3
2/2 - rest
2/3 - 3.1
2/4 - 5.0
2/5 - 4.6
2/6 - 3.1
2/7 - 3.1
2/8 - 6.0
2/9 - rest
2/10 - 5.0
Feb total: 34.2/100mi.0 -
_nikkiwolf_ wrote: »Out of curiosity: how does everyone decide at which pace to run intervals?
If I use a Jack Daniels calculator with my current half marathon time of 2:06, it spits out 4:14 for 800m intervals, 4:02 if I enter my goal time of 2:00. [I guess you should enter a current race time, but shouldn't I train based on the time I want to reach?]
If I enter my current 4:39 marathon time instead, it gives me 4:22; if I input my goal marathon time (4:25 in my very optimistic dreams ^^), it sais 4:10.
The McMillan calculator lets you enter both current and goal time, and then I get 3:58-4:08 for the HM times and 4:09-4:21 based on the marathon times.
I know my marathon time is slower than it should be compared to predictions based on other race PRs, but that's no surprise, since I only ran one marathon and my main goal was to finish; so I've decided to use the interval paces based on my half marathon time, and aim for 3:58-4:08min/HM. I'm just wondering if that's the right approach. Those intervals are damn hard! But my plan only foresees them every three weeks, I guess I'll survive that
@_nikkiwolf_ - Interesting that you should bring this up. My PR race times are all pretty close to the same VDOT, *except* the marathon times are lower VDOT than the rest. I initially based interval paces off non-marathon race times, then learned what Threshold and Repeat should feel like. (I'm still working on getting a good feel for Interval). Lately, based on feel and the relationship between T, I, and R, I've been targeting 200m in 48-49 seconds for T; 45-46 seconds for I; and 42-43 seconds for R. Just for giggles, I plugged my PR 5K of 19:07 into the Jack Daniels calculator. It spits out 200m of 49 seconds for T, 45 seconds for I, 42 seconds for R. Huh. I could swear that 5K PR was a fluke. I certainly can't explain it by how I trained in the preceding weeks.
FWIW, the times I'm currently targeting are run on an indoor track. Flat, soft, no wind, controlled temperature. An outdoor track in good weather should be comparable, but the paces would be a bit slower on the roads. I've found that the track is good for 10 to 20 seconds per mile (~1600m) faster than the road at same level of effort.
I've also come to the conclusion that Jack Daniels is working from the assumption that cardio conditioning is the limiting factor, and that for me this ceases to be true at the marathon distance. Or to put it another way, Jack's calculator assumes optimal training/conditioning for each race distance and it's likely I have never been as well trained and conditioned for a marathon as I was for my other race distance PRs.2 -
skippygirlsmom wrote: »New HM world's record, wow I can't even imagine. Maybe for a 10K but not a HM!
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/02/peres-jepchirchir-breaks-womens-world-half-marathon-running-6506-2017-rak-half-marathon/
I've seen a couple young guys turn in comparable times, but this is a *women's* world record. Wow. I can run a 15K in less time than that on a good day . . . but probably not a 10 mile. I will never equal that average pace of her HM for one mile, let alone 13.1
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