Why is my weight loss unsuccessful

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  • Unknown
    edited February 2017
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  • crooked_left_hook
    crooked_left_hook Posts: 364 Member
    KT6377 wrote: »
    @misskarne those are the "recommended serving size. So if it says 16 crackers for 160 cals, then I'll count out 16 crackers, lol 1pkg is the packet my protein powder comes in (one packet per use) and the granola bars come 2 in a pack "2 bar"

    Theoretically you should be losing weight eating 1200 calories. Based on your weight, calorie intake, and the descriptions of some of the foods you are eating there are likely a few things going on. 1. You are not eating enough calories per day, 2. The calories you are eating are not nutritionally dense, 3. You may be inaccurately weighing some things, 4. You most likely are not tracking every bite that goes in your mouth.

    For perspective, I am 137 lbs and 5'6", which is a healthy weight for my height and makes losing weight fairly difficult. I've got 26.5% body fat so I'm clearly NOT an athlete ;) I eat 1250-1500 calories per day and I do moderate exercise for about 1 hour 3x a week. I actually measure more like you do, so I don't weigh every little thing perfectly and I rely quite a bit on containers with predetermined measurements quite a bit but I track EVERYTHING (including cough drops). I'm losing between 0.5 and 1.5 lbs a week. I eat 6 times a day (3 meals and 3 snacks). I cook everything, 90% of what I eat or use to cook is whole, fresh foods (fruits, veggies, meat, etc) and I try and use minimal processed foods (crackers, granola bars). Protein shakes should be used as a supliment to boost protein in addition to a well rounded diet, not as a meal replacement. Food you can chew is always best!

    I have worked with a nutrition coach, which is helpful for accountability. Weight watchers also works for me. You're welcome to add me as a friend so you can take a look at my diary and see what kind of things I'm eating and what a typical day looks like.



    @KT6377 If she should be losing on 1200 and her diaries are looking like shes eating between 800-900, give or take logging errors.. im confused by your comment of "you're not eating enough calories per day"...

    When you drop your carbs too low, which will happen on an extremely low calorie diet, you do go into a form of 'starvation mode' because your leptin hormone levels drop which signals your body to hold onto its fat. This is medically documented and the science behind carb cycling diets. However, this is likely not the case based on her current weight and is more likely a problem with tracking and quality of food.

  • Hello_its_Dan
    Hello_its_Dan Posts: 406 Member
    This whole thread is 100% forest for the trees at this point.
  • scubagram
    scubagram Posts: 27 Member
    https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/search/list
    Is the accurate, the only comprehensive and accurate database available.
    If you have frozen chicken and intend to cook it, search that database for "chicken, raw".
    You'll get a lot of choices. The one I use is

    05039, Chicken, broilers or fryers, light meat, meat only, raw

    I copy that from the USDA web site and paste it into the MFP food diary. I even sometimes double-check the mfp nutrition to see that it exactly matches the USDA site.

    A neat feature of the USDA site is that you can change the serving size. If you weigh your breast and it's 251 grams, you can change the USDA serving size from 100 to 251 and all the values change to reflect the nutrition in the serving.

    I keep tabs open on my browser for the USDA database and for convertunits.com, which is always useful.

    Thank you so much for the tip on the USDA site!!
  • crooked_left_hook
    crooked_left_hook Posts: 364 Member
    @KT6377 Can you please link to me this study? Because Starvation mode other then lean muscle loss resulting in Lower BMR based from VLCD is the only thing i have ever heard of.. starvation mode where the body holds onto fat has only ever been proven as a myth.

    Here's the first but you'll need access to an academic research database to read the full article (you might have access to one if you are a student):
    http://www.jdcjournal.com/article/1056-8727(94)00077-8/pdf

    Same deal here:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080620195455.htm

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  • crooked_left_hook
    crooked_left_hook Posts: 364 Member

    I LOVE the post on "scale-stress syndrome". Do a heavy leg workout? + 2lbs! Eat out? +2lbs! Gotta' poop? +2lbs! Over 70% humidity outside? +2lbs! Period week? My weight creeps up for four days and magically drops 3lbs on day 5! Story. Of. My. Life. I just weigh myself every morning and use the weekly average to calculate my loss.
  • crooked_left_hook
    crooked_left_hook Posts: 364 Member
    KT6377 wrote: »
    @KT6377 Can you please link to me this study? Because Starvation mode other then lean muscle loss resulting in Lower BMR based from VLCD is the only thing i have ever heard of.. starvation mode where the body holds onto fat has only ever been proven as a myth.

    Here's the first but you'll need access to an academic research database to read the full article (you might have access to one if you are a student):
    http://www.jdcjournal.com/article/1056-8727(94)00077-8/pdf

    Same deal here:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080620195455.htm

    While i cant read the first one, the second one uses a lot of words like "Might".. which kind of leads me to believe that this is mostly just a theory. In the two years ive been on this site, so far you are the first person to ever bring up this point of view in regards to 'starvation mode.'.. but i suppose i could of just missed some people mentioning it.. i am not here 24/7

    Most academic, peer reviewed articles use that language. Most science is speculation at best and for every piece of research published there is another one trying to disprove it. That's what doing research is all about :)
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  • sarahrusse_
    sarahrusse_ Posts: 32 Member
    I don't think you have to weigh your food that's ridiculous, nobody is perfect.

    It can take almost up to 2 weeks to even notice weight loss! Keep at it.
    ❤️
  • SueSueDio
    SueSueDio Posts: 4,796 Member
    OP, I only skimmed the responses so I'm not sure if this was already mentioned, but if you've been used to only eating one large meal per day and you're struggling now to eat three, why not go back to one? There's no rule that says you MUST eat three meals a day, never skip breakfast, have two snacks per day, or anything else of the sort. (Or at least, no rule that you have to obey!)

    If it helps you, go back to your one meal a day and don't worry about it. The only thing you need to worry about is getting your logging as accurate as possible, and you've been given plenty of advice here on how to do that. :)

    Oh, and have patience. Lots and lots of patience!
  • Hello_its_Dan
    Hello_its_Dan Posts: 406 Member
    Whilst I confess to being a lazy logger myself, it does seem odd that somebody on MFP would think weighing food is ridiculous.

    It is what the whole calorie counting system depends on.


    Forest for the trees...

    Thing is I used to think the same things but after going to school for nutrition and psychology....Not so much anymore.

    Search the forums for In Place of a Roadmap.
    That's my beginning. I was all about counting calories.
    Now, I don't count calories.
    Not marketing but my clients don't either.

    Whatever works for you is great though so you do you.

    OPs biggest issue isn't the weight of a slice of bread. It's trying to change too many things at once instead of simply managing activity and eating more nutrient dense food.
    She doesn't need to eat 1200 calories.
    She could lose weight at 1600+ if she simply manages activity. She may even do better at a higher calorie goal seeing as maintenance at her current weight is over double what she's eating now.

    Anyway.
    You can bicker over weighing vs counting calories vs assigning a point system vs hand portion sizing if you like.

    Forest for the trees
  • My friend actually lost when she increased her calorie intake. Not drastically.

    Your body may be in starvation mode from too few calories. That doesn't sound like 200 calories to me. Assuming you're making something like a 4 eggwhite omlette (80 calories), 5 oz of veggies like brocoli and cauliflower (which have...50 calories per cup or something, if even), and 6 oz of chicken breast throughout the day (about 250 calories), it sounds like you're not getting enough.

    I have heard you need to eat your weight x 10 to get even the maintenance amount of calories you need to function. That seems like a place to start.
  • Myki3012
    Myki3012 Posts: 152 Member
    I've been clean eating and working out for about 2 weeks but I see no changes. I stick to my diet religiously (egg whites for breakfast, 6oz of chicken, 5oz of veggies for dinner and lunch... drink only water and maybe a protein shake if I need it) ... I see a lot of people saying they see change fast and I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong. I stick to my 1200 calorie diet with high protein and low (non) carbs. I also do an hour of cardio everyday plus weight training. What can I do to start seeing results?

    Sometimes progress just takes time!
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    Myki3012 wrote: »
    I've been clean eating and working out for about 2 weeks but I see no changes. I stick to my diet religiously (egg whites for breakfast, 6oz of chicken, 5oz of veggies for dinner and lunch... drink only water and maybe a protein shake if I need it) ... I see a lot of people saying they see change fast and I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong. I stick to my 1200 calorie diet with high protein and low (non) carbs. I also do an hour of cardio everyday plus weight training. What can I do to start seeing results?

    Sometimes progress just takes time!

    And the winner is.........end thread.
  • elisa123gal
    elisa123gal Posts: 4,333 Member
    Time, give it time..let your body adjust. i always start losing weeks after I start.. like my body is adjusting. it isn't as simple as CICO as everyone says. If that were the case..we could all easily lose exactly what we wanted when we wanted. I think my metabolism takes time to get into the fat burning mode.
  • fitmom4lifemfp
    fitmom4lifemfp Posts: 1,572 Member
    edited February 2017
    I don't think you have to weigh your food that's ridiculous, nobody is perfect.

    What??
  • hope516
    hope516 Posts: 1,133 Member
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    recommended serving sizes are often never right

    Look at this photo, the package says "1 muffin" but the gram weight is 20g LOWER then what the muffin actually weighs, making the calories in that muffin much higher then what is listed on the package.

    That photo also shows the plastic package touching the weighing plate, which can easily be the additional 20 grams. I'm just saying.
    My morning Ole Xtreme Wellness tortilla is supposed to be 45 grams, but rarely is. Today it was 43 grams.

    And thats great.. while i hardly doubt that itty bitty amount of plastic grazing the scale is adding 20g of weight, im not saying that things are ALWAYS more, but they do often, i weight all my foods and they are usually more. Im surprised when it isnt but it happens far less often.

    Also, Jeromebarry1, If my memory serves me correctly you have had a lot of moments yourself where you thought things were but then found out it wasn't actually the case, i remember reading your statuses to that effect, the photo is a guide to help people truly understand that packaging and foods can be misleading, no matter if they weigh less or more.. Regardless the outcome finding fault in the photo seems silly, the lesson behind it still remains valid and useful.

    LOL it is kind of funny that you are discounting that "itty bitty amount of plastic grazing the scale" yet you are trying to DRILL it into the OPs head and anyone that will listen about how important it is to be accurate with weighing!!!

    Although, I agree with the point of your posts and pictures don't talk out of both sides of your mouth. The photo is not accurate :)

  • Colorscheme
    Colorscheme Posts: 1,179 Member
    edited February 2017
    The answer is simple. you are not logging and weighing accurately. How do you know how much you're actually consuming? let's say 16 chips is one serving, and if you're weighing it out, 1 oz. well, some chips might be big, some might be small. each chip varies so you don't know how much you're really consuming until you weigh it on on the scale.

    forget measuring cups, spoons, etc. weigh everything out on a food scale for the next two weeks and see how it goes.
  • crooked_left_hook
    crooked_left_hook Posts: 364 Member
    I find it ironic that a bunch of people on a thread for weight loss advice and support, who are all here because they at some point needed to lose weight, think that they are all experts on weight loss. You clearly DO NOT have all the answers.

    Everyone's body and metabolism is different. The point you are at in your life also contributes to how you lose weight as much as what you eat, when you eat, how you cook it, how you weight it, and how you log it. For example, it took me 10 weeks to lose 25lbs when I was age 34, and it's taken me 8 weeks to lose 6 at age 39 and I am using the same method, similar foods, and same level of activity. My sister lost 61lbs over 6 months eating the same number of calories, and similar foods as I do. The variable here: my thyroid function has been declining but isn't low enough yet for corrective medication.

    So, unless someone wants to step up and identify themselves as a board certified endocrinologist, everyone's point of view and advice is antecdotal at best.
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