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Full fat VS low fat
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I prefer full fat dairy but have been using powdered milk lately which is nonfat. I don't drink it just use it in cooking.
I get full fat cheese and yogurt.
I hate margarine. I get real butter.
I eat whole eggs. I kind of dislike egg whites so if I don't eat the good yolk there isn't any point to me eating eggs.
I use Newman's Own light salad dressing but mostly hate light versions of products.
I use regular peanut butter.
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CornflakeGirl01 wrote: »I have done a great deal of personal research on this topic and definitely have an opinion, which can be substantiated by numerous scientific research. Fat in your diet is essential for energy, healthy tissue, controlling inflammation, absorption of fat soluble vitamins (A, D, E, & K), and regulation of many hormones. It can even help with weight loss, by providing enough calories and energy to keep you feeling satiated and your energy levels even.
The trick is to eat the right kind of fat, which is mainly plant based, from nuts, seeds, avocados. In addition to plant based polyunsaturated fats, fats found in fish like salmon, tuna, and sardines contain essential fatty acids, omega-3 and omega-6 that help reduce heart disease. Vegetable based fats help with insulin resistance and body inflammation, which contributes to multiple chronic diseases.
Fats from animal sources are called saturated fats and are okay in moderation. You get these from beef, cheese, ice cream, and eggs.
Trans fats are found in processed foods and should be avoided at all costs. Cookies, cakes, and fast food contain trans fats. If it comes in a box, it has trans fats most likely and is artificially created! Additionally, "low fat" foods are often created with increased sugar and other processed items like refined substances (flour, starch). They do this to make the "low fat" taste good, but end up jacking up our blood sugar, spiking our insulin levels and even causing weight GAIN!
So, I personally, so not eat anything "low-fat". It is better to choose half and half for your coffee than processed, sugary creamers. To me, "low-fat" equals high sugar, high insulin body spikes, low nutritionally value, and possible weight gain.
I hope this helps!
What a totally ridiculous series of exaggerations and hyperbole!
OP - read the labels of foods when you select them.
In the UK it's actually rare to find artificial transfats in foods.
The fat goal is really a minimum not a maximum, fat in suitable amounts is a good thing and can't make you fat unless you are in a calorie surplus.
Yeah I'm pretty sure we don't really get transfats in the uk, but she didn't know that I lived in the U.K. before posting..
Is it different in the US?0 -
Love this thread! Is there anyone that can educate me on poly-unsaturated fats and mono-unsaturated fats? According to my nutrient guidelines on MFP, I am allotted 0 for both of these, but tend to have a couple here and there. I know to stay away from trans-fat, but I really don't know about these two. TIA2
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When it comes to milk I consume what we have at home. A couple of weeks ago it was full fat and now we have 0% fat (dunno why though). With yogurt I like the low-fat but hate the no-fat. Full fat is the best but I tend to eat more low fat. Cottage cheese, I'd rather have it low fat and cream cheese, again whatever we have at home. Usually the cheeses I eat are full-fat.0
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getrealgirl wrote: »Love this thread! Is there anyone that can educate me on poly-unsaturated fats and mono-unsaturated fats? According to my nutrient guidelines on MFP, I am allotted 0 for both of these, but tend to have a couple here and there. I know to stay away from trans-fat, but I really don't know about these two. TIA
It's not a 0 allotment, they just haven't set a value for them.4 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »getrealgirl wrote: »Love this thread! Is there anyone that can educate me on poly-unsaturated fats and mono-unsaturated fats? According to my nutrient guidelines on MFP, I am allotted 0 for both of these, but tend to have a couple here and there. I know to stay away from trans-fat, but I really don't know about these two. TIA
It's not a 0 allotment, they just haven't set a value for them.
I looked at it closer. I get it now! I kept thinking I was doing something "bad" whenever I would see the numbers in red. Thank you for enlightening me.1 -
I've gotten used to nonfat milk, yogurt, and cottage cheese, and I prefer them now. Also I like that they are quite a bit lower in calories. Nonfat hard cheeses, though, taste plasticky to me and don't melt properly so I go for low-fat or types that are naturally lower in fat. Most other foods that are sold as low-fat aren't great (imo) and often have added sugar, which I don't need.
I ignore marketing stickers and would never buy low fat cheese (I'm a cheese snob).
Lots and lots of packaged foods ARE naturally low or no fat, however, and don't have added sugar and there would be no reason to avoid them. For example, pasta or oats or some kind of beans and rice mix (I prefer to make my own beans and rice other than buying the beans and rice (both after in packages and with no fat, btw--again disproving this idea about all packages having transfat and all low/no fat packages having added sugar), but if those kinds of things were desired I'm sure plenty are perfectly healthy and only have spices added.1 -
CornflakeGirl01 wrote: »I have done a great deal of personal research on this topic and definitely have an opinion, which can be substantiated by numerous scientific research. Fat in your diet is essential for energy, healthy tissue, controlling inflammation, absorption of fat soluble vitamins (A, D, E, & K), and regulation of many hormones. It can even help with weight loss, by providing enough calories and energy to keep you feeling satiated and your energy levels even.
The trick is to eat the right kind of fat, which is mainly plant based, from nuts, seeds, avocados. In addition to plant based polyunsaturated fats, fats found in fish like salmon, tuna, and sardines contain essential fatty acids, omega-3 and omega-6 that help reduce heart disease. Vegetable based fats help with insulin resistance and body inflammation, which contributes to multiple chronic diseases.
Fats from animal sources are called saturated fats and are okay in moderation. You get these from beef, cheese, ice cream, and eggs.
Trans fats are found in processed foods and should be avoided at all costs. Cookies, cakes, and fast food contain trans fats. If it comes in a box, it has trans fats most likely and is artificially created! Additionally, "low fat" foods are often created with increased sugar and other processed items like refined substances (flour, starch). They do this to make the "low fat" taste good, but end up jacking up our blood sugar, spiking our insulin levels and even causing weight GAIN!
So, I personally, so not eat anything "low-fat". It is better to choose half and half for your coffee than processed, sugary creamers. To me, "low-fat" equals high sugar, high insulin body spikes, low nutritionally value, and possible weight gain.
I hope this helps!
What a totally ridiculous series of exaggerations and hyperbole!
OP - read the labels of foods when you select them.
In the UK it's actually rare to find artificial transfats in foods.
The fat goal is really a minimum not a maximum, fat in suitable amounts is a good thing and can't make you fat unless you are in a calorie surplus.
Yeah I'm pretty sure we don't really get transfats in the uk, but she didn't know that I lived in the U.K. before posting..
Is it different in the US?
No, transfats have been mostly removed/phased out, and her statement that food in a box probably has them is not accurate at all.3 -
I eat all kinds of foods that come in boxes that don't have trans-fat. It's usually specifically baked goods that did have trans-fat, and many of those have been phased out.
Back in the 80's and 90's when fat was supposed to be the enemy, there were lots of low-fat treats and snack foods that had lots of added sugar and salt, but again we're talking about 25 years ago. Now that everyone has jumped on the sugar-is-te-devil bandwagon, I doubt you'd find much food that is high in sugar so they can call it low fat.
The only low fat foods I can even think of seeing around now is dairy, and they do NOT add sugar to low-fat dairy. I'll eat some low fat and some full fat yogurt. I drink 2% milk because that's what I grew up on and I think whole milk is weird
. I like low-fat ricotta and cottage cheese, but full fat of pretty much any other kind of cheese.
I don't really think you can generalize that "low fat" or "full fat" is either all good or all bad.
agreed. personal preference is the judge. i , for health reasons have to keep my fat to 5 grams a day or less.1 -
The only specifically low fat dairy product I like is skyr, but that's because I prefer the taste and consistency over Greek yogurt. I will use Greek yogurt if the skyr is unavailable, but then it's the full fat variety.
I like PB2, not specifically because it's low fat, but because it's easy to blend into oatmeal or a smoothie to get protein and it tastes just like actual peanut butter. I have not found that actual peanut butter is as enjoyable in the smoothies and the oatmeal, but it's not like I avoid regular peanut butter. I love a peanut butter and pickle sandwich.2 -
CornflakeGirl01 wrote: »I have done a great deal of personal research on this topic and definitely have an opinion, which can be substantiated by numerous scientific research. Fat in your diet is essential for energy, healthy tissue, controlling inflammation, absorption of fat soluble vitamins (A, D, E, & K), and regulation of many hormones. It can even help with weight loss, by providing enough calories and energy to keep you feeling satiated and your energy levels even.
The trick is to eat the right kind of fat, which is mainly plant based, from nuts, seeds, avocados. In addition to plant based polyunsaturated fats, fats found in fish like salmon, tuna, and sardines contain essential fatty acids, omega-3 and omega-6 that help reduce heart disease. Vegetable based fats help with insulin resistance and body inflammation, which contributes to multiple chronic diseases.
Fats from animal sources are called saturated fats and are okay in moderation. You get these from beef, cheese, ice cream, and eggs.
Trans fats are found in processed foods and should be avoided at all costs. Cookies, cakes, and fast food contain trans fats. If it comes in a box, it has trans fats most likely and is artificially created! Additionally, "low fat" foods are often created with increased sugar and other processed items like refined substances (flour, starch). They do this to make the "low fat" taste good, but end up jacking up our blood sugar, spiking our insulin levels and even causing weight GAIN!
So, I personally, so not eat anything "low-fat". It is better to choose half and half for your coffee than processed, sugary creamers. To me, "low-fat" equals high sugar, high insulin body spikes, low nutritionally value, and possible weight gain.
I hope this helps!
What a totally ridiculous series of exaggerations and hyperbole!
OP - read the labels of foods when you select them.
In the UK it's actually rare to find artificial transfats in foods.
The fat goal is really a minimum not a maximum, fat in suitable amounts is a good thing and can't make you fat unless you are in a calorie surplus.
Yeah I'm pretty sure we don't really get transfats in the uk, but she didn't know that I lived in the U.K. before posting..
Is it different in the US?
No. I am in the US. I just checked all the boxed items in my pantry and none of them had trans fat. That statement isn't based on fact.2 -
Which do you think is better in your diet?
And why?
Neither is better or worse for your diet. I prefer skim milk because I find it more refreshing and I like the little bit of extra protein it gives over full fat milk. Cottage cheese is usually 2%, yogurt is non-fat, cheese is full fat.0 -
I think hitting an adequate amount of fat is the best. And if that involves eating both full fat and low fat to help me adhere to my diet and ways of eating, so be it. Why one or the other?5
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I eat low or no fat yogurt, its not got any added sugar. I rarely eat it by itself though, I add yogurt to some foods or serve it with berries, nuts, something to add taste. Reading food labels is good, it lets me know whether a low fat yogurt has added sugar or not.
I eat eggs, avocado and cheeses. So I guess the only intentional low fat product I eat is the yogurt. Sometimes I buy full fat yogurt if I am in that sort of mood too, I have only a few rules about the variety of foods I eat.1 -
Low fat = more plates of food (for the same calories) and is healthier for me. My cholesterol shoots up when I eat high fat.4
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It depends, if I'm low on fats for the day I'll opt for butter or oil... if not I'll use icbinb light. It really depends on the day0
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Full fat because low fat is usually more processed and full fat keeps me full and helps with my health issues.1
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I personally cut fat (not below essential levels) when I am losing weight. I am a volume eater and I can eat a ton more bulk when I decrease fats. I still work in some fats to ensure adequate hormonal balance, but just not super high. And when I work back to maintenance, I increase fats.2
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CornflakeGirl01 wrote: »I have done a great deal of personal research on this topic and definitely have an opinion, which can be substantiated by numerous scientific research. Fat in your diet is essential for energy, healthy tissue, controlling inflammation, absorption of fat soluble vitamins (A, D, E, & K), and regulation of many hormones. It can even help with weight loss, by providing enough calories and energy to keep you feeling satiated and your energy levels even.
The trick is to eat the right kind of fat, which is mainly plant based, from nuts, seeds, avocados. In addition to plant based polyunsaturated fats, fats found in fish like salmon, tuna, and sardines contain essential fatty acids, omega-3 and omega-6 that help reduce heart disease. Vegetable based fats help with insulin resistance and body inflammation, which contributes to multiple chronic diseases.
Fats from animal sources are called saturated fats and are okay in moderation. You get these from beef, cheese, ice cream, and eggs.
Trans fats are found in processed foods and should be avoided at all costs. Cookies, cakes, and fast food contain trans fats. If it comes in a box, it has trans fats most likely and is artificially created! Additionally, "low fat" foods are often created with increased sugar and other processed items like refined substances (flour, starch). They do this to make the "low fat" taste good, but end up jacking up our blood sugar, spiking our insulin levels and even causing weight GAIN!
So, I personally, so not eat anything "low-fat". It is better to choose half and half for your coffee than processed, sugary creamers. To me, "low-fat" equals high sugar, high insulin body spikes, low nutritionally value, and possible weight gain.
I hope this helps!
What a totally ridiculous series of exaggerations and hyperbole!
OP - read the labels of foods when you select them.
In the UK it's actually rare to find artificial transfats in foods.
The fat goal is really a minimum not a maximum, fat in suitable amounts is a good thing and can't make you fat unless you are in a calorie surplus.
Yeah I'm pretty sure we don't really get transfats in the uk, but she didn't know that I lived in the U.K. before posting..
Is it different in the US?
Not really...a lot of processed foods and commercial baked goods used to have trans-fats, but they've largely been removed and phased out.
And things like low fat dairy do not have added sugars to make them taste better either.4 -
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No fat dairy might look like they have added sugars as they have more by weight...once the dairy fat is removed. These are naturally occurring sugars such as lactose.
I am reconciled to fat as long as I measure carefully. Fats have twice the energy per gram compared to carbs or proteins.
Fats really do help get in those fat soluble vitamins and long-lasting energy.2 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
Here, I guess: http://www.thekitchn.com/how-is-skim-milk-made-ingredient-intelligence-215893
If one cared (I don't), that might be a reason to pick low fat over skim, I dunno. Or just get it from a farm where they might not have to add anything back in if that level of processing it upsetting for some reason--not sure why it would be). Overall, the "process" of skimming off the cream when it rises is an old process ("cream rises to the top" is an old cliche, after all).0 -
I'm working with a dietician who recommends 30 grams of protein and 15 grams of fat PER MEAL. That's not including fats/ proteins in snacks throughout the day. To answer the OP's question, I'd lean more towards full fat with certain things. If you are getting your fats from things like coconut oil, avocado, nuts and what not, you're going to really be doing your body a favor and feel more satisfied. I'm finding I don't consume near the amount of caffeine I used to in the mornings because I'm eating a full meal within an hour of waking up. Anyway, best of luck to you.
ETA, I am 5'8" and 165 pounds currently.0 -
Depends on timing, but in general - Full fat. I find this food more satisfying and sustaining. I could easily eat multiple low-fat option foods and not get the satisfaction from eating one serving of high fat, perfectly prepared dish. It depends on what my activity is at the time. I'm not going to eat this prior to run, but will sup in victory afterwards.
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I feel like this is a stupid question coming from a veteran calorie counter but 50g of fat is 50g of fat is it not? How do you feel more full or less full if you're hitting your fat macro whether it's from full fat or lower fat food?2
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I feel like this is a stupid question coming from a veteran calorie counter but 50g of fat is 50g of fat is it not? How do you feel more full or less full if you're hitting your fat macro whether it's from full fat or lower fat food?
I had the same thought. If I eat 0% Fage, because I like it, and use my excess fat calories on some chicken with the skin and salmon and avocado and nuts and cheese, why would I be better off skipping the cheese (because short of calories) and eating full fat Fage if I LIKE 0% as well or better?
My usual breakfast is pretty high fat, since I have two eggs with vegetables and a little feta. So I see no reason why full fat cottage cheese would be better than 1% I usually have with it (and 1% is my favorite anyway). In fact, I can eat more if I have 1%, which means I get in more protein and hit the macros I prefer for breakfast.
Also, what fat % you do best on is going to vary. I wouldn't enjoy the really high fat or low fat macros some do well on, but for them those are great.4 -
I feel like this is a stupid question coming from a veteran calorie counter but 50g of fat is 50g of fat is it not? How do you feel more full or less full if you're hitting your fat macro whether it's from full fat or lower fat food?
I would guess some people are not volume eaters. They'd feel more full eating 30 g of nuts vs having a giant salad with low fat dressing and low fat cheese with a PB sammich.
Or something. IDK, it's early for me and I haven't had my Coke yet.2 -
I don't know if it's good or not, but I always prefer eating food closest to it's original state, without too much change in nutrients.
Reason for this is - I think nutrition science is still in it's beginning. Many things we don't know yet. We know many fragments, but live, in vivo synergic effects of food components are still unknown to us.
If I want to make calorie deficit, I'll just make a limitation of how much of certain food I will eat.0 -
Taste, always go by taste. Some things that do taste the same are not worth the extra calories, especially dairy fats to me.
That's exactly what I do. Taste rules this discussion for me as well. Since whole and skim milk taste the same to me in oatmeal, I would rather have my oatmeal base be 250 calories and not 350 to have more freedom with the extras, but for drinking I can't do skim, but low fat is close enough to satisfy. Fat free greek yogurt is plain tasteless and has too different of a mouthfeel (grew up eating full fat) for me to enjoy so I go for full fat. All dairy, but my decision for fat content is solely based on taste.1 -
I feel like this is a stupid question coming from a veteran calorie counter but 50g of fat is 50g of fat is it not? How do you feel more full or less full if you're hitting your fat macro whether it's from full fat or lower fat food?
I would guess some people are not volume eaters. They'd feel more full eating 30 g of nuts vs having a giant salad with low fat dressing and low fat cheese with a PB sammich.
Or something. IDK, it's early for me and I haven't had my Coke yet.
I think this is it. It goes back to all these Halo Top threads. I am not a volume eater - I would rather have half a cup of rich gelato than a pint of Halo Top. But if you are a volume eater, no matter how much you enjoy that half cup of gelato, you're left wanting more cause the portion was so small.
So you can eat a 5 Oz container of fage whole milk yogurt, or a 5 Oz container of yoplait greek 100 plus a plate of cucumber sticks and a light string cheese. Same calories and fat, but some people will feel more full on the first and some on the second.3
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