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Full fat VS low fat
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I feel like this is a stupid question coming from a veteran calorie counter but 50g of fat is 50g of fat is it not? How do you feel more full or less full if you're hitting your fat macro whether it's from full fat or lower fat food?
Some say that they are never satiated on lower fat food.
I will say that there are foods for me that just 'hit the spot'. Those are more satiating than if I ate equivalent macros' worth of different foods because they satisfy more senses than just filling my belly. But, this is why I wouldn't go high or low fat. I pick whichever one suits me at the time.0 -
For me, both. If there are full and low fat versions of the same things and I like the low fat I will ALWAYS go for the low fat because I eat plenty of fat, more than recommended. And it's usually from things that don't come in low fat versions like nuts and olive oil. So I cut back wherever I can.
Plus, I dislike most full fat dairy and the phlegmy way it makes my throat feel. ::sick::2 -
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menotyou56 wrote: »
It doesn't satiate everyone and not all low fat stuff is loaded with sugar. Completely over generalized.11 -
menotyou56 wrote: »
It satiate YOU, and low fat products don't generally add extra sugar. If not for my taste buds, I would do low fat everything because fat does squat for my satiety except for adding extra calories to my foods, and I usually get my day's worth from olive oil and other naturally occurring fats anyway.2 -
menotyou56 wrote: »
As psulemon said, this is false.
Full fat might satiate you, it doesn't me. (Full fat dairy is not more satiating to me than the same amount -- so much lower cal amount -- of low fat dairy. I like bacon and eat it, but find it not satiating at all.)
Why do people say that low fat products ALWAYS contain added sugar. (menotyou, I'd be really interested if you would be willing to answer this.) That's just obviously untrue. The only low fat I eat are (1) dairy (no added sugar), (2) (rarely) egg whites (no added sugar), and (3) foods that are naturally no or low fat (no added sugar).3 -
menotyou56 wrote: »
It doesn't satiate everyone and not all low fat stuff is loaded with sugar. Completely over generalized.
Just about any 'food product' advertised as low fat has added sugar because it tastes like crap after taking the fat out.
Of course asparagus, green beans, broccoli, cauliflower, etc are low fat and fine but not man made processed 'foods'.1 -
Oh, I thought of another low fat product I eat: sometimes I eat lean ground beef. Again, NO added sugar.
Many people like skinless, boneless chicken breast (I tend to cook my chicken with the skin on, often whole). Either way, though, the lower fat option has NO added sugar.4 -
menotyou56 wrote: »menotyou56 wrote: »
It doesn't satiate everyone and not all low fat stuff is loaded with sugar. Completely over generalized.
Just about any 'food product' advertised as low fat has added sugar because it tastes like crap after taking the fat out.
Of course asparagus, green beans, broccoli, cauliflower, etc are low fat and fine but not man made processed 'foods'.
Maybe baked goods, but I get a lot of low fat dairy and lean meats, and they does not have any more sugar than full fat products. Hell, I largely cut fats because it offers inadequate volume to keep me full.4 -
menotyou56 wrote: »menotyou56 wrote: »
It doesn't satiate everyone and not all low fat stuff is loaded with sugar. Completely over generalized.
Just about any 'food product' advertised as low fat has added sugar because it tastes like crap after taking the fat out.
Of course asparagus, green beans, broccoli, cauliflower, etc are low fat and fine but not man made processed 'foods'.
I don't see any added sugar in my skim milk or occasional low fat cream cheese...2 -
menotyou56 wrote: »menotyou56 wrote: »
It doesn't satiate everyone and not all low fat stuff is loaded with sugar. Completely over generalized.
Just about any 'food product' advertised as low fat has added sugar because it tastes like crap after taking the fat out.
Of course asparagus, green beans, broccoli, cauliflower, etc are low fat and fine but not man made processed 'foods'.
I don't mean to be argumentative, but no, they don't. Could you be more specific about what kinds of low fat foods you're talking about?3 -
I usually eat full fat foods. Cream in my coffee when I don't have it black, full fat cottage cheese, yogurt, real butter, etc. It tastes better, keeps me full longer, and the fats are good for you.
the only fats I try to avoid are trans fats and hydrogenated fats/oils. These are generally in things like margarine (real butter is healthier and does not contain these) and lots of processed snack foods.1 -
I was just looking at 2 different cottage cheese containers I have in the fridge. one is 4% milkfat and the 1% milk fat(same brand) has 1g of sugar more than the 4%.the 4% has 4 and the other has 5. not a big difference. thats just for that product. Im not sure about anything else because I have nothing to compare to2
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I make my decision based on a) calories per serving b) flavor and c) cost
I do look at the teams fat content too, but not too closely.
I'm more likely to go low fat on some things (like dressings and sauces) just so I can have more of it, and full fat on others for the taste.2 -
It's likely because when the fat in milk has little or no lactose in it. When fat is removed, the milk solids that have lactose in them amount for more of the final product. The extra 1g of sugar in the nutrition information is probably naturally-occurring lactose. (You can check the ingredients list to make sure there's no added sugar.)CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I was just looking at 2 different cottage cheese containers I have in the fridge. one is 4% milkfat and the 1% milk fat(same brand) has 1g of sugar more than the 4%.the 4% has 4 and the other has 5. not a big difference. thats just for that product. Im not sure about anything else because I have nothing to compare to4 -
It's likely because when the fat in milk has little or no lactose in it. When fat is removed, the milk solids that have lactose in them amount for more of the final product. The extra 1g of sugar in the nutrition information is probably naturally-occurring lactose. (You can check the ingredients list to make sure there's no added sugar.)CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I was just looking at 2 different cottage cheese containers I have in the fridge. one is 4% milkfat and the 1% milk fat(same brand) has 1g of sugar more than the 4%.the 4% has 4 and the other has 5. not a big difference. thats just for that product. Im not sure about anything else because I have nothing to compare to
Im sure thats probably it(not all products have the added sugar label so far.at least these didnt).But my point is its not excessive added sugar like most think it is.1 -
menotyou56 wrote: »menotyou56 wrote: »
It doesn't satiate everyone and not all low fat stuff is loaded with sugar. Completely over generalized.
Just about any 'food product' advertised as low fat has added sugar because it tastes like crap after taking the fat out.
Of course asparagus, green beans, broccoli, cauliflower, etc are low fat and fine but not man made processed 'foods'.
I don't mean to be argumentative, but no, they don't. Could you be more specific about what kinds of low fat foods you're talking about?
I think people are still operating under the Snackwells Principle circa 1993. Back when Low Fat was the diet craze du jour, but people still wanted to eat cookies - the food companies found a way to still make palatable foods without as much fat by substituting sugar. Now the pendulum has swung the other way, and we assume that all products have added sugar and since sugar is the latest substance to be demonized and blamed for all our health issues and the obesity epidemic, but fat is proclaimed to be the savior... people incorrectly suggest that anything that is marketed as low fat must be high in sugar.16 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
It's likely because when the fat in milk has little or no lactose in it. When fat is removed, the milk solids that have lactose in them amount for more of the final product. The extra 1g of sugar in the nutrition information is probably naturally-occurring lactose. (You can check the ingredients list to make sure there's no added sugar.)CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I was just looking at 2 different cottage cheese containers I have in the fridge. one is 4% milkfat and the 1% milk fat(same brand) has 1g of sugar more than the 4%.the 4% has 4 and the other has 5. not a big difference. thats just for that product. Im not sure about anything else because I have nothing to compare to
Im sure thats probably it(not all products have the added sugar label so far.at least these didnt).But my point is its not excessive added sugar like most think it is.
Yes, even in digestive biscuits which are baked goods (I like the full fat version anyway) the difference is less than half a gram of extra sugar per serving. I can live with that if I liked the light ones. I'm also of the opinion that sugar doesn't matter for a healthy person in the context of a good diet, but that's a 50 page thread for another day.4 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
It's likely because when the fat in milk has little or no lactose in it. When fat is removed, the milk solids that have lactose in them amount for more of the final product. The extra 1g of sugar in the nutrition information is probably naturally-occurring lactose. (You can check the ingredients list to make sure there's no added sugar.)CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I was just looking at 2 different cottage cheese containers I have in the fridge. one is 4% milkfat and the 1% milk fat(same brand) has 1g of sugar more than the 4%.the 4% has 4 and the other has 5. not a big difference. thats just for that product. Im not sure about anything else because I have nothing to compare to
Im sure thats probably it(not all products have the added sugar label so far.at least these didnt).But my point is its not excessive added sugar like most think it is.
Yes, even in digestive biscuits which are baked goods (I like the full fat version anyway) the difference is less than half a gram of extra sugar per serving. I can live with that if I liked the light ones. I'm also of the opinion that sugar doesn't matter for a healthy person in the context of a good diet, but that's a 50 page thread for another day.
yeah I have to eat low fat due to health issues.I like the full fat better but it is what it is.nope I eat a lot of carbs/sugar and my health markers have improved so1 -
I think many of the modern bogus comparisons use things like full fat plain yogurt vs low fat sweetened yogurt to illustrate their point because more fair comparisons would not show a good enough shock impact.2
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Oh, I thought of another low fat product I eat: sometimes I eat lean ground beef. Again, NO added sugar.
Many people like skinless, boneless chicken breast (I tend to cook my chicken with the skin on, often whole). Either way, though, the lower fat option has NO added sugar.
I, for one, would love a good way to get boneless with the skin on, but it never works out. That crispy, crispy skin.
How do you keep the low fat ground beef from drying out when you make burgers?0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
It's likely because when the fat in milk has little or no lactose in it. When fat is removed, the milk solids that have lactose in them amount for more of the final product. The extra 1g of sugar in the nutrition information is probably naturally-occurring lactose. (You can check the ingredients list to make sure there's no added sugar.)CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I was just looking at 2 different cottage cheese containers I have in the fridge. one is 4% milkfat and the 1% milk fat(same brand) has 1g of sugar more than the 4%.the 4% has 4 and the other has 5. not a big difference. thats just for that product. Im not sure about anything else because I have nothing to compare to
Im sure thats probably it(not all products have the added sugar label so far.at least these didnt).But my point is its not excessive added sugar like most think it is.
You can look at the ingredients list if you wonder about added sugar. Cottage cheese shouldn't have any.
IME, low fat dairy has no more sugar even when controlled by amount. I've compared Fage (and posted it on various threads). But even if it had a bit more lactose for a cup (as with your example), that doesn't mean they add sugar -- the ingredients list is what to look at for that, and in plain dairy they do not.0 -
heiliskrimsli wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Oh, I thought of another low fat product I eat: sometimes I eat lean ground beef. Again, NO added sugar.
Many people like skinless, boneless chicken breast (I tend to cook my chicken with the skin on, often whole). Either way, though, the lower fat option has NO added sugar.
I, for one, would love a good way to get boneless with the skin on, but it never works out. That crispy, crispy skin.
How do you keep the low fat ground beef from drying out when you make burgers?
I prefer chicken cooked on the bone, so it's not a problem for me.
On the burgers, cooking quickly helps and I often put onion in the patty. I use ground beef more often in a meat sauce or sauteed, however, so it's less of an issue.2 -
heiliskrimsli wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Oh, I thought of another low fat product I eat: sometimes I eat lean ground beef. Again, NO added sugar.
Many people like skinless, boneless chicken breast (I tend to cook my chicken with the skin on, often whole). Either way, though, the lower fat option has NO added sugar.
I, for one, would love a good way to get boneless with the skin on, but it never works out. That crispy, crispy skin.
How do you keep the low fat ground beef from drying out when you make burgers?
I have never had low fat ground beef, but to make patties tender we often soak the inside part of a bread roll (not the crust) in heavy cream or milk and add it to the meat mixture, plus onions of course. Not sure how it would work for low fat beef, though.0 -
It all depends, I go by calories so I can save some unless the taste or tradeoff is one I dont want.
Certain things, for example sour cream, which IS fat basically- cream- nonfat sour cream, Im like, well then what the actual hell IS it? Because it sure isn't cream. But it doesnt kill me to have it, because sometimes my husband will pick it up by mistake, so well eat it. But given the choice I'll eat regular or light.
Salad dressing is a likely candidate for swapping out fat & adding a lot of sugar, so i usually skip those, and while I dont track sugar per se, i try not to go crazy with it in regular foods because if I'm not getting much fiber with it, it will make me hungry in a short time. So I try to save very sugary things for desserts, and Ill be asleep hopefully by the time I would be hungry again.
I plain dont like the taste of most nonfat yogurt, but low fat is usually ok.
Sometimes I splurge calories and have the full fat as a treat (like ice cream) but eat the lower cal versions (frozen yogurt, skinny cow, halo top) the other times.
I also look for alternative fat sources to more creatively lower the calories, like I switched to cashew or almond/cashew milk, 25 calories a cup, and I actually like how it tastes. I used to use skim milk (my husband has to) but i never liked the taste of milk. I do rather like pure cream though
Had to cut that out because it was insane calories though lol.
I just discovered mayo with avocado oil, and it actually tastes great and is very low cal for mayo!!
Conclusion, if I can save calories and it doesnt taste nasty or have too much extra sugar over the regular version, I'll choose the low or no fat version.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
It's likely because when the fat in milk has little or no lactose in it. When fat is removed, the milk solids that have lactose in them amount for more of the final product. The extra 1g of sugar in the nutrition information is probably naturally-occurring lactose. (You can check the ingredients list to make sure there's no added sugar.)CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I was just looking at 2 different cottage cheese containers I have in the fridge. one is 4% milkfat and the 1% milk fat(same brand) has 1g of sugar more than the 4%.the 4% has 4 and the other has 5. not a big difference. thats just for that product. Im not sure about anything else because I have nothing to compare to
Im sure thats probably it(not all products have the added sugar label so far.at least these didnt).But my point is its not excessive added sugar like most think it is.
You can look at the ingredients list if you wonder about added sugar. Cottage cheese shouldn't have any.
IME, low fat dairy has no more sugar even when controlled by amount. I've compared Fage (and posted it on various threads). But even if it had a bit more lactose for a cup (as with your example), that doesn't mean they add sugar -- the ingredients list is what to look at for that, and in plain dairy they do not.
yeah i could look but for me it wont make a difference, I have to eat low fat,so the sugar to me doesnt matter. but for others it may0 -
The reason I suggested looking at the ingredients list is that it's unlikely your cottage cheese has any added sugar. If there is some, it would show up there. I can't say for sure that no cottage cheese has added sugar, because they do add some things to try to improve the texture and taste. But IME the only ones with added sugar are the kinds that have fruit in them (e.g., pineapple cottage cheese). And anyway as others have pointed out, 1g of sugar is not a lot of difference.CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »yeah i could look but for me it wont make a difference, I have to eat low fat,so the sugar to me doesnt matter. but for others it may
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The reason I suggested looking at the ingredients list is that it's unlikely your cottage cheese has any added sugar. If there is some, it would show up there. I can't say for sure that no cottage cheese has added sugar, because they do add some things to try to improve the texture and taste. But IME the only ones with added sugar are the kinds that have fruit in them (e.g., pineapple cottage cheese). And anyway as others have pointed out, 1g of sugar is not a lot of difference.CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »yeah i could look but for me it wont make a difference, I have to eat low fat,so the sugar to me doesnt matter. but for others it may
yeah,I totally get what you are saying1 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Oh, I thought of another low fat product I eat: sometimes I eat lean ground beef. Again, NO added sugar.
Many people like skinless, boneless chicken breast (I tend to cook my chicken with the skin on, often whole). Either way, though, the lower fat option has NO added sugar.
I, for one, would love a good way to get boneless with the skin on, but it never works out. That crispy, crispy skin.
How do you keep the low fat ground beef from drying out when you make burgers?
I have never had low fat ground beef, but to make patties tender we often soak the inside part of a bread roll (not the crust) in heavy cream or milk and add it to the meat mixture, plus onions of course. Not sure how it would work for low fat beef, though.
My burgers consist only of meat. The bread goes on the outside. If the bread is in it, it's a meatball.1 -
heiliskrimsli wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Oh, I thought of another low fat product I eat: sometimes I eat lean ground beef. Again, NO added sugar.
Many people like skinless, boneless chicken breast (I tend to cook my chicken with the skin on, often whole). Either way, though, the lower fat option has NO added sugar.
I, for one, would love a good way to get boneless with the skin on, but it never works out. That crispy, crispy skin.
How do you keep the low fat ground beef from drying out when you make burgers?
Personally I add an egg, onions and some bread crumbs.
(and a slice of feta in the middle... yummy!)0
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