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The meanies of MFP truly give the best advice. Disagreeing with someone is not being mean. Telling someone they should keep buying their ridiculous over priced scam magic potion that does nothing is mean. You may not like to hear it but that doesn't make it mean.10
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booksandchocolate12 wrote: »crooked_left_hook wrote: »Not to mention that "snowflake" not only is a politically derogatory term, it is also a racially derogatory term in the vein of "cracker" or "honky" and offensive.
When used here, snowflake just means "super duper special" or "one of a kind", as in "no two snowflakes are alike".
But I understand your point.
I figured that out, but the first time I encountered the term on MPF I was new and it was directed at me, I didn't know that, and I was pissed, my hackles went up and I got argumentative and stopped listening.
We need to keep nuances like this in mind when replying to new posters. The delivery of a message is often as important as the message itself.2 -
crooked_left_hook wrote: »
Not to mention that "snowflake" not only is a politically derogatory term, it is also a racially derogatory term in the vein of "cracker" or "honky" and offensive.
Can you explain how it is "racially derogatory", I've never ever encountered it's use as such.
I've seen it aptly used across socioeconomic classes and political affiliations. I'd say it's derogatory about the character of the target, that's it.2 -
crooked_left_hook wrote: »
Not to mention that "snowflake" not only is a politically derogatory term, it is also a racially derogatory term in the vein of "cracker" or "honky" and offensive.
Can you explain how it is "racially derogatory", I've never ever encountered it's use as such.
I've seen it aptly used across socioeconomic classes and political affiliations. I'd say it's derogatory about the character of the target, that's it.
I would think it is obvious. I serve on a few diversity & inclusion committees, and I've also lived in several predominantly black and Hispanic neighborhoods in NYC, MI, and OH and I can assure that it a racially derogatory term for a white person.2 -
There are a few around that aren't as supportive of others but, for the most part this is a good community with a lot of support. The only other similar app to this that I have found is MyPlate. There, unless you are low carb you will be shot down in flames because you eat a banana.1
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Lillymoo01 wrote: »There are a few around that aren't as supportive of others but, for the most part this is a good community with a lot of support. The only other similar app to this that I have found is MyPlate. There, unless you are low carb you will be shot down in flames because you eat a banana.
This makes me want to join MyPlate just to troll about how I lost a gazillion pounds on the Banana and Pizza dough diet.
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I know what you mean. I eat Keto and I get attacked all the time. I've even had inboxes from carb lovers telling me that Keto is stupid and restrictive and has no benefit whatsoever and I'm stupid and naïve for telling people that it works. And I'd just like to point out that there are some "dieticians" and "personal trainers" on here that don't know everything. But they still try to bully people into subscribing to their point of view. I would say that my 4+ years of eating Keto, plus all of the research I've done qualify me at least as much as them to share my opinion and experience.
The thing to remember is that it's just strangers on the internet. The internet brings out the worst in people and many behave in a way that they wouldn't have the guts to in real life. That is their failing, not yours. Plus a bit of healthy debate is a good thing, even if they're wrong. I put it down to being hangry all the time due to their high carb diets.3 -
Wow! I stopped reading this forum about half way through! If you felt bad when you wrote this post, I know you felt horrible when you finished reading the responses (if you finished). Some of you acted like lions waiting on some poor little lamb to bleat so you could pounce! And, don't worry, I'm not coming back to read your responses to this! I can feel bad all by myself; I don't need your help!3
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I looked but couldn't find the community. Would mind linking me? Just for fun!Lillymoo01 wrote: »There are a few around that aren't as supportive of others but, for the most part this is a good community with a lot of support. The only other similar app to this that I have found is MyPlate. There, unless you are low carb you will be shot down in flames because you eat a banana.
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rparkerslim wrote: »Wow! I stopped reading this forum about half way through! If you felt bad when you wrote this post, I know you felt horrible when you finished reading the responses (if you finished). Some of you acted like lions waiting on some poor little lamb to bleat so you could pounce! And, don't worry, I'm not coming back to read your responses to this! I can feel bad all by myself; I don't need your help!
How in the actual heck? :huh:10 -
rparkerslim wrote: »Wow! I stopped reading this forum about half way through! If you felt bad when you wrote this post, I know you felt horrible when you finished reading the responses (if you finished). Some of you acted like lions waiting on some poor little lamb to bleat so you could pounce! And, don't worry, I'm not coming back to read your responses to this! I can feel bad all by myself; I don't need your help!
I'm sorry you feel that way! I think you are missing out!1 -
EbonyDahlia wrote: »I know what you mean. I eat Keto and I get attacked all the time. I've even had inboxes from carb lovers telling me that Keto is stupid and restrictive and has no benefit whatsoever and I'm stupid and naïve for telling people that it works. And I'd just like to point out that there are some "dieticians" and "personal trainers" on here that don't know everything. But they still try to bully people into subscribing to their point of view. I would say that my 4+ years of eating Keto, plus all of the research I've done qualify me at least as much as them to share my opinion and experience.
The thing to remember is that it's just strangers on the internet. The internet brings out the worst in people and many behave in a way that they wouldn't have the guts to in real life. That is their failing, not yours. Plus a bit of healthy debate is a good thing, even if they're wrong. I put it down to being hangry all the time due to their high carb diets.
My diet which includes carbs is very satiating. Why are you alleging non-keto people are hangry?
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Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »
I looked but couldn't find the community. Would mind linking me? Just for fun!Lillymoo01 wrote: »There are a few around that aren't as supportive of others but, for the most part this is a good community with a lot of support. The only other similar app to this that I have found is MyPlate. There, unless you are low carb you will be shot down in flames because you eat a banana.
http://www.livestrong.com/conversations/
Have fun1 -
EbonyDahlia wrote: »I know what you mean. I eat Keto and I get attacked all the time. I've even had inboxes from carb lovers telling me that Keto is stupid and restrictive and has no benefit whatsoever and I'm stupid and naïve for telling people that it works. And I'd just like to point out that there are some "dieticians" and "personal trainers" on here that don't know everything. But they still try to bully people into subscribing to their point of view. I would say that my 4+ years of eating Keto, plus all of the research I've done qualify me at least as much as them to share my opinion and experience.
The thing to remember is that it's just strangers on the internet. The internet brings out the worst in people and many behave in a way that they wouldn't have the guts to in real life. That is their failing, not yours. Plus a bit of healthy debate is a good thing, even if they're wrong. I put it down to being hangry all the time due to their high carb diets.
The irony of complaining about being 'attacked', and then taking a swipe.20 -
EbonyDahlia wrote: »I know what you mean. I eat Keto and I get attacked all the time. I've even had inboxes from carb lovers telling me that Keto is stupid and restrictive and has no benefit whatsoever and I'm stupid and naïve for telling people that it works. And I'd just like to point out that there are some "dieticians" and "personal trainers" on here that don't know everything. But they still try to bully people into subscribing to their point of view. I would say that my 4+ years of eating Keto, plus all of the research I've done qualify me at least as much as them to share my opinion and experience.
The thing to remember is that it's just strangers on the internet. The internet brings out the worst in people and many behave in a way that they wouldn't have the guts to in real life. That is their failing, not yours. Plus a bit of healthy debate is a good thing, even if they're wrong. I put it down to being hangry all the time due to their high carb diets.
You had my support until your last sentence. If you don't want to be attacked then don't attack others choices either. We are all different and what works for one will not work for all. Keto works for you and gives you results. Brilliant. Moderate carbs works much better for me because I find wholegrain carbs keep me satiated more than protein and fat. To say that I am hangry all the time because of my high carb diet is nothing more than rude. If you want a healthy debate then don't lower yourself to this level.12 -
I don't post in forums for this reason. I do enjoy reading others posts. I take what I want and leave the rest sometimes I get some good laughs haha.
If anyone is straight up mean or rude I will call them out because that's how I was raised and I can't hold my tounge.7 -
I don't say this to be a jerk but welcome to the internet5
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Yup, had it happen recently. I follow a ketogenic way of life and had the pleasure of a person ridiculing me. I basically don't post anything about my way of life now. That I've lost 42kg and followed this way of eating for many years and been successful doesn't count with some people. Seems that everyone is an expert, however it all boils down to 'what works for you'. We're not all the same and there are people who should show both respect and tolerance.2
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crooked_left_hook wrote: »crooked_left_hook wrote: »
Not to mention that "snowflake" not only is a politically derogatory term, it is also a racially derogatory term in the vein of "cracker" or "honky" and offensive.
Can you explain how it is "racially derogatory", I've never ever encountered it's use as such.
I've seen it aptly used across socioeconomic classes and political affiliations. I'd say it's derogatory about the character of the target, that's it.
I would think it is obvious. I serve on a few diversity & inclusion committees, and I've also lived in several predominantly black and Hispanic neighborhoods in NYC, MI, and OH and I can assure that it a racially derogatory term for a white person.
I've only heard it used to describe a particular group of 'social justice warriors', usually college students. No racial component and frequently used by whites. Thanks for sharing your exposure.2 -
Honestly, if you want to venture onto the internet you need have a thick skin. People are often quite a lot braver, blunt and tend to turn into their alter ego when sitting behind their computer screen.
When i first joined the forum, I gasped at some the attitudes and replies, but now a few years later i usually chuckle, eye roll and move on. Some of the "know it alls" really do give out good solid advice, even if their bedside manner and patience/tolerance is low.
...And yes, it does get tiresome answering the same questions day in day out, hence why i rarely click on them anymore. Because to be perfectly blunt, unless you're one of my kids I'm honestly not going to be passionately invested in what you eat or don't eat, and I am certainly not going to reply to a thread and parrot the 100 replies before me, this annoys me more than anything else.
Lastly, do not let a random bunch of internet strangers upset you or get under your skin. Don't let words on a screen written by someone you will never meet bother you, being overly sensitive can be a massive road block to learning. Shutting down and having a baby fit because you (general you) don't like someones tone, will just be a hindrance in the long run.3 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »
I looked but couldn't find the community. Would mind linking me? Just for fun!Lillymoo01 wrote: »There are a few around that aren't as supportive of others but, for the most part this is a good community with a lot of support. The only other similar app to this that I have found is MyPlate. There, unless you are low carb you will be shot down in flames because you eat a banana.
oooh, fun! Tell us your user name there so we can follow
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Alatariel75 wrote: »EbonyDahlia wrote: »I know what you mean. I eat Keto and I get attacked all the time. I've even had inboxes from carb lovers telling me that Keto is stupid and restrictive and has no benefit whatsoever and I'm stupid and naïve for telling people that it works. And I'd just like to point out that there are some "dieticians" and "personal trainers" on here that don't know everything. But they still try to bully people into subscribing to their point of view. I would say that my 4+ years of eating Keto, plus all of the research I've done qualify me at least as much as them to share my opinion and experience.
The thing to remember is that it's just strangers on the internet. The internet brings out the worst in people and many behave in a way that they wouldn't have the guts to in real life. That is their failing, not yours. Plus a bit of healthy debate is a good thing, even if they're wrong. I put it down to being hangry all the time due to their high carb diets.
The irony of complaining about being 'attacked', and then taking a swipe.
Yup, this.
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Addressing the actual thread topic: I post dumb things all the time, and people correct me all the time. Occasionally someone's trolly or blatantly rude but that's by far the exception. The trick is to disengage from the conversation - IRL one would walk away from a conversation with someone who was rude, and whatever they said after that would be out of sight, out of mind. I learned that there's no need to respond to a comment I think is out of line, and to hit the ignore button if it becomes clear the poster isn't willing to let it go.0
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EbonyDahlia wrote: »I know what you mean. I eat Keto and I get attacked all the time. I've even had inboxes from carb lovers telling me that Keto is stupid and restrictive and has no benefit whatsoever and I'm stupid and naïve for telling people that it works. And I'd just like to point out that there are some "dieticians" and "personal trainers" on here that don't know everything. But they still try to bully people into subscribing to their point of view. I would say that my 4+ years of eating Keto, plus all of the research I've done qualify me at least as much as them to share my opinion and experience.
The thing to remember is that it's just strangers on the internet. The internet brings out the worst in people and many behave in a way that they wouldn't have the guts to in real life. That is their failing, not yours. Plus a bit of healthy debate is a good thing, even if they're wrong. I put it down to being hangry all the time due to their high carb diets.
Perhaps statements like the bolded have something to do with the reactions you get?
I've seen people jumped on for making blanket statements that you have to follow a specific WOE to lose weight and that people who don't eat that way are all hungry and addicted and miserable. What tends to get shot dwn here is telling a newbie you have to eat a specific food or cut out a specific food. Even so, I honestly don't think I've ever seen anyone "attacked" here. Even people who say dangerous or actually mean things will get disagreed with or told they are wrong, but not attacked. I've seen people attacked on the internet, it's scary asparagus, and it doesn't happen here.
If someone sends you a nasty message, you should contact a mod, that's not acceptable.6 -
Am i hallucinating or did this thread start off in the general section??3
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I had never heard the word "snowflake" used as a racial insult, so I did some googling. I'm not going to go into detail, but it seems it's important to say "special snowflake" as leaving off the special part can take on a different meaning. So I learned something today - Thank you MFP :drinker:2
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Christine_72 wrote: »Am i hallucinating or did this thread start off in the general section??
Oh thank God, I thought I was losing my mind
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Christine_72 wrote: »Am i hallucinating or did this thread start off in the general section??
Ack! Look at that. I guess it was civil enough not to nuke, but not about Diet & Weightloss so they kicked it over here. That's why everyone's a little tipsy and the music is louder
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Christine_72 wrote: »Am i hallucinating or did this thread start off in the general section??
Oh thank God, I thought I was losing my mind
Me too! I was wondering what sneaky mfp gremlin pulled me in to THIS section where i normally do not venture into 0 -
My reputation is now tarnished
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