May 2017 Running Challenge
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skippygirlsmom wrote: »WhatMeRunning wrote: »@MNLittleFinn - I always heard that you're not a real runner until you full on crap your shorts. I guess I'm still working on that. Came close a couple times, and have even had to dart off into the woods once. Maybe that should count.
Oh crap!!! You mean I am not a real runner yet?
Holding my head down at the TMI, I'm a real runner ha ha
I'm a real runner too! Plus have returned sockless a time or two.
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@karllundy ha ha!!! When trail running or at the greenway I can step off the trail, the problem is the neighborhood, no where to step off except 1 empty lot. ha ha0
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Am I a real runner?
I've only had to poop once during a run, but I was able to hold it until I got home.
Once, I started out on a run, didn't get very far, suddenly had to poop, turned around and went back home, did the deed and returned to my run.
Yesterday during my long run, I got a bit of a stomachache in the last mile but didn't think much of it until I was home and immediately had to poop.
And now, just thinking of all this pooping is making me have to poop. BRB....4 -
@respectthekitty ha ha!!!0
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Congrats to everyone on their races! Love reading the race reports.
I haven't run in over a week. Every so often I get burnt out on all forms of exercise and just need an easy week. I did go to what was supposed to be Aqua Zumba Saturday, but we had a sub and it was an hour of pure HIIT in the water. I laughed when a new person said "I can't believe I am sweating in the pool!" Tonight is spin class with hopefully a run tomorrow. Make it a good week everyone!4 -
@ereck44 , @katharmonic , @midwesterner85 , @MobyCarp , @NikolaosKey , @Bakins929 , @mirelaavdich and anyone else who I may have missed, Huge congrats on many outstanding race performances this weekend. There are some hugely impressive PRs in that group...way to go!!4
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5/1= 3 mile run + 1 hour kettlebell workout
5/2 = rest day
5/3 = 6 mile run
5/4 = 6 mile run
5/5 = forced rest day due to work schedule
5/6 = 7.5 miles
5/7 = 11 miles
5/8 = 5.5 miles & strength training
5/9 = Vinyasa yoga class
5/10 = 6 miles
5/11 = 6.5 miles & strength training
5/12 = 7 miles
5/13 = vinyasa yoga class
5/14 = 10 miles
5/15 = 5.5 miles & strength training
5/16 = Vinyasa yoga class & 6 miles
5/17 = Rest Day
5/18 = 8.5 miles
5/19 = 5.5 miles & kettlebell class
5/20 = Hatha yoga class
5/21 = 12 miles
5/22 = 5 miles & strength training
May Goal 111/125 miles3 -
interesting..
6 Training Habits That Lead to Boston Qualifying Times, According to Strava
http://www.runnersworld.com/boston-marathon/6-training-habits-that-lead-to-boston-qualifying-times-according-to-strava/slide/6
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Another day of discovery with the tempo running. Today I discovered that my high end cardio is kaput, non-existent, obliterated, null, and otherwise not up to par. OK, that may be a little bit of an exaggeration, but despite being able to endure lots of miles, I can't run with my HR up for very long at all. So I have a LOT of work to do here, and really should be tackling this instead of focusing on longer and longer distances. If I want to improve my fitness or otherwise change myself for the better, here is the big, fat, out of shape elephant in the room.
Today's workout was an 8 mile run, with the first 2 miles at easy effort, and then up to 6 repeats of 1/2 mile tempo effort (87% to 92% HRMax or 97% to 104% LTHR) with 1/4 mile cool downs in my easy effort HR range (60% to 80% HRMax). I wasn't sure I could do 6 intervals at that effort yet, but was determined to give it an honest, fair shot and see how many I could do. I made it through 3 and most of the way through #4 before I crapped out. Looking back at the data that means I spent 15 to 16 minutes pushing myself up into LTHR and just slightly beyond for just a few of those minutes. That was as long as I could last, so there is a lot of room for improvement. All of this is assuming, of course, that my estimated LTHR really is 164, it might be a point or two off.
I spent the rest of the run in easy effort HR range. I felt a lot better after a couple miles cooling down and can see that in the first mile after the last interval I slowed down by about a minute/mile, but recovered in the miles afterwards. I guess that's a good sign, indicating that perhaps I had flooded my muscles with lactate and needed that time to recover. Or maybe it just shows that I was a big wuss and had to whimper around for a mile before getting back to normal. Either way...I need to work on this.
It's possible I may even continue focusing on this during my next 6 week cycle if I don't quite get some good, honest, tempo workouts in that challenge me for an appropriate time. I know 20 minutes is a nice, short end number, and I didn't quite get there today. I'm looking for more in the 45 minute range though before I can say I'm at least able to run with regular tempo efforts. Then I'll start looking at building mileage again.
5/1 - 8 miles
5/2 - 4 miles
5/3 - 8 miles
5/4 - 4 miles
5/5 - rest
5/6 - 9 miles
5/7 - 4 miles
5/8 - 6 miles
5/9 - 4 miles
5/10 - 6 miles
5/11 - rest
5/12 - more rest
5/13 - 13 miles (plus 0.1)
5/14 - 4 miles
5/15 - 8 miles
5/16 - 4 miles
5/17 - 8 miles
5/18 - 4 miles
5/19 - rest
5/20 - 13.5 miles
5/21 - 4 miles
5/22 - 8 miles
119.5 of 180 miles completed
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Non running activity tracking for accountability:
May 1 -P90X3 Total Synergistics + 20 minutes stretching and foam rolling
May 2- P90X3 Agility+ 45 minutes stationary bike at gym (rolling hills, level 7)
May 3- Swimming laps 25 minutes (500M)+P90X3 yoga (25 min) + 20 minutes stretching hamstrings
May 4-25 minutes yoga/stretching+ 20 minute strength training + another 10 minutes stretching
May 5- Swimming laps 25 minutes (600M)+25 minutes of hamstring work and 10 minutes stretching
May 6- Rest day
May 7-P90X3 Challenge+ 15 minutes of hamstring work
May 8- Swimming laps 30 minutes (600M)+ P90X3 CVX (Cardio) +22 minutes stretching
May 9- 50 minutes stationary bike (rolling hills, level 8-18 miles)+ P90X3 Warrior+20 minutes stretching
May 10- Swimming laps 30 minutes (750M)+ P90X3 Dynamix
May 11- P90X3 Total Synergistics+ 20 minutes biking on trainer
May 12- 40 minutes stationary bike+ 15 minutes hamstring exercises
May13- Swimming laps 30 minutes (750M)+10 minutes stretching
May 14- 45 minutes stationary bike (hard effort intervals)+ 10 minutes stretching
May 15- Easy day of 20 min body weight exercises and 20 min walk/run intervals with Stella
May 16- P90X3 Agility+ 20 minutes stretching/PT exercises
May 17-P90X3 Yoga
May 18- 25 minutes strength training + 43 minutes stationary bike
May 19- 30 minutes swimming laps (750M)+ P90X3 Challenge
May 20- P90X3 Warrior
May 21- 70 minutes Spinning
May 22- 30 minutes swimming laps (750M)+ personal training session
I have been pretty slack about updating my "non-running" activities lately, but I have continued to keep plugging away at it and trying to pretend I enjoy it. Oh, how I can't wait to run. I did a lot, I mean a lot, of yard work on Saturday and Sunday including shoveling out a yard of mulch, weeding, and planting tons of flowers, which usually is murder on my hamstrings, even when they aren't in poor shape. However, they do not hurt all that badly and they have been feeling pretty good in general. I am going to try and hold out until the end of the month, but I know I am making progress in healing and I am getting antsy to run.
On a side note, thanks to all that gave me advice regarding a personal trainer. I decided to go ahead and give it a go. I have my first 50 minute session this evening, so I will let you know how it turns out. Also, I killed it in the pool this morning (well, by my standards). I still don't love swimming, but I do like seeing the progress I have been making. I only swam 750M, but it was much easier than usual and way less break time between laps. Maybe turning to triathlons isn't out of the question after all.8 -
Ha, my post is in moderation because I have one hundred and nineteen point five miles for the month!6
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Only time for 2.5 before work this AM.
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My training took another half step today. I emailed to get Fitzgeralds opinion on me going for a faster marathon. Long story short, I'm waiting to hear from my wife to drop the money on it.
Thank you to all the folks who have been giving me advice. If/when I flame out running, it will be because I'd rather fail gloriously than wonder if I could have done better...... Lol7 -
Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
05/01/17 :::: 2.7 :::: 2.7
05/02/17 :::: 3.2 :::: 5.9
05/03/17 :::: 3.0 :::: 8.9
05/04/17 :::: 4.0 :::: 12.9
05/05/17 :::: 3.0 :::: 16.0
05/06/17 :::: 10.0 :::: 26.0
05/07/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 26.0
05/08/17 :::: 4.0 :::: 29.9
05/09/17 :::: 2.5 :::: 32.5
05/10/17 :::: 5.1 :::: 37.6
05/11/17 :::: 3.3 :::: 40.9
05/12/17 :::: 3.0 :::: 43.9
05/13/17 :::: 8.0 :::: 51.8
05/14/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 51.8
05/15/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 51.8
05/16/17 :::: 4.5 :::: 56.4
05/17/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 56.4
05/18/17 :::: 3.1 :::: 59.4
05/19/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 59.4
05/20/17 :::: 2.5 :::: 62.0
05/21/17 :::: 13.1 :::: 75.1
05/22/17 :::: 1.0 :::: 76.1
I'm back with a 1 mile run this morning. I took a lovely hike in a wildlife/bird habitat with amazing ocean views. The trail was so nice I couldn't help myself from wanting to run a little bit. I walked for an hour and did an easy 1 mile running. I was tempted to do more but was at the end of the loop so decided to call it good and not push it.
How could you not run a little in a place like this?
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WK 5.22.17 - 5.28.17
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No real plans this week except to recover and rebuild.
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skippygirlsmom wrote: »interesting..
6 Training Habits That Lead to Boston Qualifying Times, According to Strava
http://www.runnersworld.com/boston-marathon/6-training-habits-that-lead-to-boston-qualifying-times-according-to-strava/slide/6
My thoughts on the 6 things:
1. "BQers run more miles." Non-BQers run an average of 298.75 (men) or 281.75 (women) miles in 12 weeks prior to the marathon. Really? How do you prepare to run a marathon at all on 25 miles per week average, let alone BQ?
2. "BQers run more often." Um, isn't this part of the same thing as run more miles?
3. "BQers run at different times." Until you read the text, and see that no, they don't.
4. "BQers know when to take it easy." I don't know how to interpret this. It's true that I don't run very many miles at my target marathon pace or faster; but if you take my BQ target and divide by 26.2, I run substantially all my miles faster than *that*.
5. "BQers run faster (on average)." Duh. People who are naturally faster have an easier time qualifying.
6. "BQers aren't taking midrun or postrun selfies." Or maybe we just don't post them to Strava. When I take a selfie, it's usually at a scenic spot on a FF paced run, and it gets posted to the FF closed FB group for training. Strava wouldn't see those.
"The company does note, however, that BQers of both genders have nearly double the amount of followers on their Strava than those who did not qualify. Maybe having others watching your training gives you an extra push?"
Or maybe more people want to follow successful runners than average runners, and having a BQ makes you look successful?
The data mining effort is kind of interesting, but I'd be reluctant to draw conclusions about causality from the 6 statements. In particular, I'd be very reluctant to blindly accept the stated or implies conclusions in the article.7 -
I going to start training for a 10k this afternoon with a C10K app. I am planning on running my first 10k in October this year. Then half marathon spring 2018 and full marathon fall 2018. I am new at running (I just started running in March) and have loads of questions. Two I am obsessing about now are:
Will I be able to do this as I planned? - I am one of those people that plans everything and I have to have deadlines and definite dates. I can run only 3 days a week because I am strength training 3 days a week too and I just do not have the energy to do both in one day. Since I enjoy running a lot more then strength training I will start running more soon. I have to lose 12 more pounds and tone my jiggly parts a bit more
Do runners take walking breaks when running full/half marathons or just run/jog?
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5/1 5.5mi 53:51min (interval run)
5/2 5mi 44:35min
5/3 rest
5/4 5mi 44:20min
5/5 4mi 37:27min
5/6 11mi 1:43:14min
5/7 rest <- but I spent 7 hours painting!!!
5/8 7mi 1:06:29min
5/9 5mi 45:31min
5/10 rest
5/11 5mi 43:55min
5/12 4mi 36:09min
5/13 12mi 1:54:33min
5/14 rest
5/15 5mi 43:03min
5/16 5mi 45:31min
5/17 rest
5/18 5mi 44:53min
5/19 4mi 37:04min
5/20 11mi 1:52:05min
5/21 rest
5/22 10mi 1:37:34min
Had a great 10 mile today. I was only scheduled to do 9, but felt really good that I decided to keep going. After my disappointing long run on Saturday I felt like running the extra mile today would make up for it
I ran at the state park through the trails today and it was pleasant, 73 degrees and cloudy. I bought bug spray but forgot to put it on! Thankfully it wasn't bad. Only one small area that seemed to have attacking bugs. The squirrels were out in full force, I can't believe how many I saw on the trails. Lots of dragonflies too, they don't bother me even though they can be quite large and intimidating looking as far as bugs go.
5 miles tomorrow.2 -
@mirelaavdich- Yes, I think it's definitely doable! I think you will be fine running 3 days per week for your 10k and "possibly" your half marathon, but you will probably want to plan on running 4-5 days for marathon training, mostly because you will need to get accustomed to running fatigued in addition to building a stronger base. At this point, you will likely need to significantly decrease your strength training load as well. When training for a marathon, I usually do mostly body weight exercises because heavy lifting can really affect your running performance.
Also, plenty of people walk during half and full marathons. In fact, there are programs out there (Jeff Galloway being the most famous) that are designed around the principle of run/walk intervals (like 4 minute run, 1 minute walk). I have seen plenty of people utilize this method and finish with impressive times, so it might be something to consider.
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@mobycarp I agree with you 100% on your take on article. I did a lot of no kidding, wow really profound there with that info type of thinking too. Then my thought was I should write for this magazine too, I can write the obvious.
@katharmonic what a beautiful place to run1 -
@skippygirlsmom - Remember the olden days, back before we had the internet, when you would see a magazine in the store and the teaser on the front would sucker you in to buying it, only to find out that the article had nothing to do with the title? I would have been pretty ticked off if I had shelled out the $5 or whatever for that one!2
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »My training took another half step today. I emailed to get Fitzgeralds opinion on me going for a faster marathon. Long story short, I'm waiting to hear from my wife to drop the money on it.
Thank you to all the folks who have been giving me advice. If/when I flame out running, it will be because I'd rather fail gloriously than wonder if I could have done better...... Lol
I don't think you will flame out. You have been killing it in training! But I am confused, what are you planning to drop the money on? An additional marathon entry or an additional plan? Because if it's an additional training plan, I would just save the $. I think you would be fine to target a sub-4 with the training plan you have been doing. At this point, what more would you add?0 -
6. "BQers aren't taking midrun or postrun selfies." Or maybe we just don't post them to Strava. When I take a selfie, it's usually at a scenic spot on a FF paced run, and it gets posted to the FF closed FB group for training. Strava wouldn't see those.
I only follow a few people on Strava... mostly the professional athletes I stalk on Strava and inspire me despite that I don't expect to ever be able to reach their level. They post a lot more photos than I ever do. And they are faster. Meh.2 -
mirelaavdich wrote: »I going to start training for a 10k this afternoon with a C10K app. I am planning on running my first 10k in October this year. Then half marathon spring 2018 and full marathon fall 2018. I am new at running (I just started running in March) and have loads of questions. Two I am obsessing about now are:
Will I be able to do this as I planned? - I am one of those people that plans everything and I have to have deadlines and definite dates. I can run only 3 days a week because I am strength training 3 days a week too and I just do not have the energy to do both in one day. Since I enjoy running a lot more then strength training I will start running more soon. I have to lose 12 more pounds and tone my jiggly parts a bit more
Do runners take walking breaks when running full/half marathons or just run/jog?
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Will you be able to do this as planned? Maybe. You can almost certainly work up to being able to run a 10K by October. After you get that far, you'll be in a better position to judge whether a half marathon the following spring is realistic.
3 days running a week is fine for preparing to run a 5K. Stretching to longer runs, 3 days can work OK for a 10K, though I was running 4 days a week before my first 10K. You'll want at least 4 days to prepare for a half, and probably 5 days to prepare for a marathon, but . . . Worry about the 10K first. 3 days will get you to the 10K. Along the way, you are likely to meet other runners. Spend some time talking to the ones who run longer distances, and you'll learn things that you didn't know you needed to ask about.
Something you didn't ask about: Don't let the running totally squeeze out the strength training. That's a road to injury. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt. You may need to strength train *differently* to support running than you do for general strength and fitness; but it's not time to worry about that just yet.
Do runners take walking breaks during long races? Some do, some don't. This ranges from planning to do the entire event as walk/run intervals, to taking walking breaks only when you get in trouble.
Possibly the most famous story involving a walking break comes from the 1936 Boston Marathon. Ellison "Tarzan" Brown went out fast and led the pack, then later in the race had to take a walking break. John Kelley caught up to him on a minor hill in Newton, Massachusetts. John patted Tarzan on the back and said something like, "Good job, but I have it now." That put the heart back into Tarzan. He took off running and finished first. John Kelley came in second. A newspaper reporter wrote that the minor hill "broke John Kelley's heart." And that's how Heartbreak Hill got its name.5 -
lporter229 wrote: »I don't think you will flame out. You have been killing it in training! But I am confused, what are you planning to drop the money on? An additional marathon entry or an additional plan? Because if it's an additional training plan, I would just save the $. I think you would be fine to target a sub-4 with the training plan you have been doing. At this point, what more would you add?
Sorry for the confusion. I set up a one on one call with Jason Fitzgerald to talk marathon strategy/pacing and to make some adjustments to the plan to reflect my going for a sub 4 attempt, mainly planning a marathon specific test Long Run. I've been working extra teaching hours so, even though I normally am a penny-pincher, I thought it might be worth it, to get his perspective, since he's done awesome making then modifying my plan, and dispensing other advice ( for free) as training went on.
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@lporter229 isn't that the truth, well too many "fake" headlines
@mobycarp I never heard that story before, wow
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May 2 - 2.29 miles
May 4 - 2.25 miles
May 6 - 2.39 miles
May 8 - 2.3 miles
May 10 - 2.66 miles
May 14 - 2.01 miles
May 16 - 2.65 miles
May 18 - 2.55 miles
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wishiwasarunner wrote: »I have been a little overwhelmed with work/life lately so haven't been on here or even getting in my runs as planned lately. But I can almost see a light starting to glimmer at the end of the tunnel. Not sure I will be able to make my goal this month - but the left over miles from my marathon training will keep me on track for the year.
5/4- 3.2
5/6-13.2
5/7-6
5/11 - weight lifting training session then 6 mile run - felt like I had lead legs. Shins were cramping up at 2 miles, ugh.
5/13 - 7 miles
5/22 - 12 miles
I hope to be able to add some miles in at the end of the week and get back on track - but these will all be gravel roads and steep hills, since we are headed to the middle of nowhere for the weekend.
May total 47.4/80
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mirelaavdich wrote: »I going to start training for a 10k this afternoon with a C10K app. I am planning on running my first 10k in October this year. Then half marathon spring 2018 and full marathon fall 2018. I am new at running (I just started running in March) and have loads of questions. Two I am obsessing about now are:
Will I be able to do this as I planned? - I am one of those people that plans everything and I have to have deadlines and definite dates. I can run only 3 days a week because I am strength training 3 days a week too and I just do not have the energy to do both in one day. Since I enjoy running a lot more then strength training I will start running more soon. I have to lose 12 more pounds and tone my jiggly parts a bit more
Do runners take walking breaks when running full/half marathons or just run/jog?
I am not the most learned runner and definitely not the fastest runner on here. But I have little doubt you can accomplish those things. I am MUCH older than you, could not run a mile when I started and essentially did all of what you are mentioning on a similar timetable while running no more than 3 days a week. I also incorporated strength training - but often only one day a week - sometimes 3 days a week - but for a large part of my training - 3 days a week was all I had for running and strength - so I would do them both on the same day. Now, it took me longer to do the full marathon - but that was because it took me longer to decide I was crazy enough to want to try. Once I decided and signed up for it - I still only had 3 days a week to train and I still managed to get there with 15 weeks of training. Now, I did not BQ - it took me just under 4 hours and 15 minutes (BQ for me would be 3:55) to finish that Marathon - but I think you should be able to accomplish all of what you want - as long as you remain healthy. Of course, it would still probably be better if you could devote more days each week and time to running.1
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