June 2017 Running Challenge

ereck44

June Challenge....goal is 60 miles

June 1.....8 miles
June 14....6 miles
June 19....6 miles
June 21...8 miles: 14 minute miles, average heart rate at 90%.

Total....28 miles

Not sure if I will make my goal this month...but definitely going to try.

Whew! It was a hot afternoon. I ran in the early afternoon, and by the time I was done, it was 92 degrees. Noted a light cool breeze in places, but mostly stifling hot run. I am still working on my base. My heart rate shot up after the first .25 miles. It usually takes a half mile to get my heart rate in the low part of zone. I had to take walk breaks just to get my heart rate down, which meant spending a longer time running. Still with the walk breaks, I was only in the zone 30 minutes. I noted that it is good to run in adverse conditions. One doesn't know what is going to happen on race day. The more preparation, the better.

Since the passing of Gregg Allman, ticket prices to see some of the classic bands have really shot up, and it is difficult to get good seats.

My mail box took another hit. I have owned my house about 15 years, and the mail box has been demolished 4 times---now 5. This last time we put the mail box pole in cement. I thought that it was indestructible. When I came home the mail box was missing and then I saw it in pieces on the front porch, along with a note. Oh well.

My next race will probably be at the end of September.

nFoooo

10 KM run. 3KM warm-up, 4KM tempo (supposed to be 20 minutes but I went an extra 2 minutes just to get that round 4KM) and then 3KM cooldown.

And with that I have official surpassed my goal for this month with plenty of time to go!

HonuNui

June Goal: Goal? We don't need no stinkin goal.....

6/1 nothin
6/2 4.00
6/3 4.00
6/4 4.00
6/5 rest
6/6 3.87
6/7 4.13
6/8 3.50
6/9 rest
6/10 6.12
6/11 3.50
6/12 4.00
6/13 rest
6/14 4.00
6/15 3.70
6/16 4.13
6/17 rest
6/18 6.40
6/19 snorkel 3 hours
6/20 4.70
6/21 3.50

Total 63.55



Steve says: "Wear your sunblock and join our virtual run!"


Ticker is my goal for 2017 and progress to date:

girlinahat

MNLittleFinn wrote: »

@MobyCarp you nailed why I'm not sure about the optical HRM.... running in -25 temps. Basically all I really want are compass, barometric altimeter and battery life up close to 20 hours so I'll have extra battery life at the end of an ultra.

Most of these devices you should be able to turn the HR monitor off - my Fitbit charge 2 I can, and I have a tomtom multisport which I connect up to an HR cheststrap and that also I can turn off to save battery life.

From what I understand the cheststrap is more accurate than the optical monitor, and quicker and registering changes. I would look for a device where you have the option of turning off the HR feature, and even overriding the optical for the chest strap. That gives all the flexibility you need.

Battery life is a constant problem for people though. If you aren't using the GPS function or HR that should help.

carolineb81

1/6 - 3.6
2/6 - 4.9
3/6-5.6
4/6 -REST
5/6-3.9
6/6-4.7
7/6-3.1
8/6-4.3
9/0 -REST
10/6-3.8
11/6-6.5
12/6-REST
13/6-3.7
14/6-5.2
15/6-6.0
16/6-REST
17/6-5.1
18/6-5.1
19/6-3.4
20/6-3.4
21/6-REST
22/6 - 4.0

Total - 76.3/90 Miles
Today was meant to be 4.5 miles but at 3.5 miles the biggest thunder storm and hail started so I cut run a bit short

T1DCarnivoreRunner

6/1 - 5.20 miles (also starting a diet change to increase carbs slightly)
6/2 - rest
6/3 - 9.00 painful and slow miles in sweltering heat with the sun beating down
6/4 - rest
6/5 - 5.25 miles not as hot as Sat., but still hot (need to stop making excuses for slow pace)
6/6 - 5.37 miles - early am, so started out dark, but nice and cool out
6/7 - 5.00 miles (early am, nice and cool again... had to add some distance to get up to the full 5 miles)
6/8 - 13.18 miles (started out 3am and tired along with GI distress, terrible pace but stuck with it - improved as I got to the last few miles - average total pace 11:13)
6/9 - rest (backpacking in evening, not counting non-running miles)
6/10 - rest (backpacking, not counting non-running miles)
6/11 - rest (backpacking, not counting non-running miles)
6/12 - 6.60 miles, fairly warm, totally new area while traveling for work, slow average pace
6/13 - 6.93 miles, still warm, new area (paved trails mostly today), slow - need to work on that speed
6/14 - 6.12 miles, not quite as warm, but 74% humidity still was tough - still slow
6/15 - rest
6/16 - rest
6/17 - 14.30 miles... hot, slow pace. Stopped and re-filled my water bottle 3 times.
6/18 - rest
6/19 - 6.19 miles - plan was for 7 miles, but got started late because I woke up with low BG (46 mg/dl). Still could have done 7 miles, but ended early because the stuff I ate for the low BG was causing some issues.
6/20 - 6.83 miles. Good pacing, so almost no walking. Still slower than I want, but at least kept pace more even.
6/21 - Unplanned rest day. Plan was for 7 miles on a traveling (driving) day. Fell behind on driving schedule and not feeling well anyway. Stomach upset due to poor nutrition on the road and dehydration (worsened by sickness).
6/22 - 3.07 miles. Got up before sunrise and banged out some miles on the dreadmill. Not enough, so I'm still behind schedule a bit. I need about 2 more miles + the HM on Sat. to reach goal (no running after the HM because I'll be backpacking).



6/24 - Glacier National Park Half Marathon
6/25 - Rest (Backpack Glacier National Park, not counting non-running miles)
6/26 - Rest (Backpack Glacier National Park, not counting non-running miles)
6/27 - Rest (Backpack Glacier National Park, not counting non-running miles)
6/28 - Rest (Backpack Glacier National Park, not counting non-running miles)
6/29 - Rest (Backpack Glacier National Park, not counting non-running miles)
6/30 - Rest (Backpack Glacier National Park, not counting non-running miles)

PastorVincent

girlinahat wrote: »

MNLittleFinn wrote: »

@MobyCarp you nailed why I'm not sure about the optical HRM.... running in -25 temps. Basically all I really want are compass, barometric altimeter and battery life up close to 20 hours so I'll have extra battery life at the end of an ultra.

Most of these devices you should be able to turn the HR monitor off - my Fitbit charge 2 I can, and I have a tomtom multisport which I connect up to an HR cheststrap and that also I can turn off to save battery life.

From what I understand the cheststrap is more accurate than the optical monitor, and quicker and registering changes. I would look for a device where you have the option of turning off the HR feature, and even overriding the optical for the chest strap. That gives all the flexibility you need.

Battery life is a constant problem for people though. If you aren't using the GPS function or HR that should help.

cheststrap has the same delay issue, it is physiological, not the technology that is the issue. Both are accurate, assuming both are used properly and all is normal with the person (chest straps will not work for me).

But battery life of the watches is severely impacted by the HRM. The chest strap would have a separate battery so that would help in that case.

My Apple Watch made it through my 4:24 marathon with plenty of breathing room, but I doubt it could make it much past 6 hours with HRM and GPS both running.

So.. compared...

Benefits of wrist: No extra devices, and no chest strap
Benefits of Chest: Extra battery, and stays under clothes in cold weather

So... it comes down to use case. I think given the "20-hour" run and the "-25 temps" the chest strap is the clear winner. IMO YMMV and all that

garygse

With the talk of HRMs, I have the Garmin 235, and personally I like to use the HRM for all-day tracking so that I can see what my resting HR is. But when it comes to running, I use the Scosche Rhythm armband, which is worn much higher up on the arm (I wear mine on the upper forearm). That also means I can wear my watch over the layers of clothing in the winter, and a little looser during my summer runs. I haven't tried a chest strap yet, but I have a very strong feeling that it would bug the heck out of me while offering another chafing point to keep in mind (of course, as I haven't tried it, I may be missing out on the greatest thing ever). But for what I need, so far I've found the Scosche to be very good.

PastorVincent

Riddle me this...


I ran for 1 hour 3 minutes and 39 seconds. In that time I covered 6.55 miles. I somehow turned off auto pause in RunKeeper by mistake. So RunKeeper reports a 9:43 pace. The math works.

Strava reports 56:47 "moving time" and yields a pace of 8:41.

Which is more correct? In other words, which should I be using t judge my progress by? I do not really think I lost 7 minutes to traffic lights and what not, but maybe I did. Seems too high at a guess.

WhatMeRunning

Today's workout was more speedwork intervals, these of the short and fast variety to build strength and form, specifically ladder sprints building up from shortest distance to higher distance and back down.

After a 1 mile warmup I started with a 100m sprint (100m recovery), followed by 200m (100m recovery) and a 400m (200m recovery) . The next was was to be the longest at a planned 800m but I only had 600m in the tank for that one. After a 200m recovery I went back down as planned though a 400m, 200m and 100m with same recovery distances as when going upwards. My highest HR recorded today was on the second 400m interval at 171bpm.

I felt like doing a little more so I did two more 100m sprints with 100m recovery, then went to challenge my MaxHR on a final 400m attempt but lactate build up prevented me from maintaining a high enough pace to get that high and I could only run 200m of it before having to stop.

I wrapped up with some easy running to clear the lactate before leaving and stopped when I hit the 4 mile mark on my Garmin.

My times on my intervals were:

100m - 26.2 (6:46/mile)
200m - 55.2 (7:21/mile)
400m - 2:04.5 (8:21/mile)
600m of 800m attempt - 3:51 (9:58/mile)
400m - 2:13 (9:03/mile) - highest HR 171
200m - 57.7 (7:56/mile)
100m - 26.2 (6:53/mile)
100m - 25.0 (6:47/mile)
100m - 26.8 (7:14/mile)
200m of 400m attempt - 1:06.9 (8:21/mile)

I am strangely enjoying these track intervals. Something is clearly wrong with my head.

6/1 - rest
6/2 - 3.1 miles
6/3 - 13.1 miles
6/4 - 4.5 miles
6/5 - 9 miles
6/6 - 4.5 miles
6/7 - 6 miles
6/8 - rest
6/9 - 8.5 miles
6/10 - rest
6/11 - 4.5 miles
6/12 - 7.6 miles
6/13 - rest
6/14 - more rest
6/15 - 2.5 miles
6/16 - rest
6/17 - 2.5 miles
6/18 - 4.5 miles
6/19 - rest
6/20 - 4.2 miles
6/21 - rest
6/22 - 4 miles

78.5 of 170 miles completed

WhatMeRunning

@PastorVincent - Recently I am finding the Strava "Moving Time" to be utter garbage. Later I will try and post some examples, but I have many cases recently where I was moving the entire time (some even running the entire time) and Strava shows my "moving time" significantly lower than my total time. So, I would say their "moving time" estimate is no more reliable than their "calorie burn" estimate.

PastorVincent

WhatMeRunning wrote: »

@PastorVincent - Recently I am finding the Strava "Moving Time" to be utter garbage. Later I will try and post some examples, but I have many cases recently where I was moving the entire time (some even running the entire time) and Strava shows my "moving time" significantly lower than my total time. So, I would say their "moving time" estimate is no more reliable than their "calorie burn" estimate.

Erf. Why do people like this program so much then?

WhatMeRunning

PastorVincent wrote: »

WhatMeRunning wrote: »

@PastorVincent - Recently I am finding the Strava "Moving Time" to be utter garbage. Later I will try and post some examples, but I have many cases recently where I was moving the entire time (some even running the entire time) and Strava shows my "moving time" significantly lower than my total time. So, I would say their "moving time" estimate is no more reliable than their "calorie burn" estimate.

Erf. Why do people like this program so much then?

I never noticed it before and have used Strava for over 3 years, so I think something happened that broke this feature. Truth be told, it is losing it's shine bit by bit over time with me. I find their new "Fitness and Freshness" scores too confusing to actually leverage on planning workouts, instead you just look at it to see if it went up or down and then high five your running buddy when it goes up.

*shrug*

MobyCarp

PastorVincent wrote: »

Riddle me this...


I ran for 1 hour 3 minutes and 39 seconds. In that time I covered 6.55 miles. I somehow turned off auto pause in RunKeeper by mistake. So RunKeeper reports a 9:43 pace. The math works.

Strava reports 56:47 "moving time" and yields a pace of 8:41.

Which is more correct? In other words, which should I be using t judge my progress by? I do not really think I lost 7 minutes to traffic lights and what not, but maybe I did. Seems too high at a guess.

Strava seems to automatically strip out stopped time, but I don't totally trust it to be accurate. It must rely on the underlying data from whatever GPS method measured the run. When I used my old 620 out cycling, I'd turn on autopause and watch it at stoplights. At a very long stoplight, I could see the timing pause and restart and pause and restart, apparently from GPS wobble being perceived as moving. Then some slower runners told me they could have autopause kick in while they were still moving. So I quit using autopause, because that sort of behavior bothered me.

I tried manually pausing for stoplights for a while, and quit doing that because sometimes I forgot to restart the watch. Now I just live with the recorded time from Garmin (like your 9:43 pace) and don't worry about the moving time pace Strava computes. I do manually pause for stops that I know will take a while. This is mostly water breaks and breaks between segments for pace groups, where a group will always take more time than a solo runner.

With numbers like yours, I'd be looking at the pace charts over time from Garmin and Strava and trying to figure out where/when all that stopped time was. It does seem like a lot of stopped time to not be obvious in your memory.

garygse

Today's run was an easy run, five miles of which was run with the group, and by group I mean two other people, as everyone else bailed for various reasons. Other than that, nothing interesting to report.

01 - 11.39
02 - 21.12
05 - 13.44
06 - 10.73
07 - 13.43
08 - 11.43
09 - 21.15
12 - 5.66
13 - 13.16
14 - 7.10
15 - 10.33
16 - 13.52
17 - 11.27
19 - 13.52
20 - 9.10
21 - 13.55
22 - 11.14

Total: 211.04 / 225 miles

karllundy

6/1 - 4 miles
6/2 - Pre-race rest day. Ate some donuts for national donut day / carb load
6/3 - 13.2 miles. Damn HOT Dam to Dam half marathon! Race report forthcoming.
6/4 - Ow.
6/5 - Still ow. Had hoped for a recovery run, but decided against it when I got up.
6/6 - 4.3 miles.
6/7 - Unplanned rest day due to son's strep throat :-(
6/8 - 5 miles.
6/9 - 5 miles.
6/10 - 6.2 miles.
6/11 - Rest day.
6/12 - 5 miles. 78° and humid at 4:45 a.m.!
6/13 - 4.1 miles of track/speed work with a group. Then quick upper body weights. Again, 78° and humid.
6/14 - Rest day. Semi-planned.
6/15 - 5 miles.
6/16 - 5 miles.
6/17 - 6.8 miles.
6/18 - Father's Day with my Dad and brother.
6/19 - 5 miles.
6/20 - 3.4 miles.
6/21 - 4 treadmill miles, then upper body weights.
6/22 - 5 hot and humid miles.

girlinahat

my tomtom and my strava times seem to compare. Strava strips some non-moving time and also corrects distance. Both are very different from my fitbit, which gives me both a longer distance and a longer time for the same run.

I use the fitbit to record daily HR and steps, the tomtom and cheststrap for actual activities, and strava to get kudos from people!!

cameronheel

Been away from the board for a day and I am 3 pages behind. Hope everyone is doing well and staying injury free.

June 20 - rest day
June 21 - traveled to beach. Did not have energy to run after driving and unpacking. Did get in a 2 mile walk, not going to count in monthly miles.
June 22 - 4 total miles. Following the 80/20 recommendations this was my harder run for the week. Wanted to push pace and see how I could do in 5K. I improved my best time from 29 min 30 secs to 27 min 59 secs. What I really liked is I was able to increase pace each mile. 1st mile was in 9:34, 2nd mile was in 8: 59 and 3rd mile was 8:36. It definitely helped that I was running near the coast in an area where there is not a hill in sight, so I did not have to vary effort for inclines. My easy runs this week have been at around a 12 min per mile pace, so I was surprised and pleased with the increase in pace when I pushed it. So for me training slow is working great.

June total - 61.5/75

PastorVincent

@MobyCarp @WhatMeRunning @girlinahat - I just turned autopause back on in RunKeeper. Have to see if the times get closer next time I run. I would love to thikI was running 8:43 now, but that seems too fast for how the run felt.

skippygirlsmom

6/1 - 6 miles
6/2 - 4 miles
6/3 - rest day
6/4 - 7 miles
6/5 - 3 miles
6/6 - rest day
6/7 - 4 miles (the Big Run 5K and warm up)
6/8 - unscheduled rest day
6/9 - 4 miles
6/10 - 3 miles
6/11 - 7 miles
6/12 - 3 miles of recovery
6/13 - rest day
6/14 - 7 miles
6/15 - 3 miles of recovery
6/16 - 5K and 1 mile of warmup
6/17 - rest day
6/18 - 6 miles
6/19 - rest day
6/20 - unscheduled rest day
6/21 - 8 miles
6/22 – was pouring this morning, will get out later tonight

69 of 70 miles

I don’t mind running in the rain, but I hate starting out when it’s pouring buckets. I’ll try after work. Thanks Tropical Storm Cindy, now go away.

@ereck44 I thought you meant someone hit your mailbox on purpose, that seems to be a big thing around me. Of course I’m on a cul de sac so only someone stupid would do that and have to turn around and go back up the street. My neighbor’s grandson got caught out drunk destroying mailboxes, doesn’t pay to be the slowest runner ha ha, he was 17. He was a wee bit upset to find out it was a federal offense…dumb jerk.

@autumnblade75 I completely understand about the shirt, I’d be upset about that too. The first time I got in a car with a push button was like WTH. Honestly I don’t love the technology, but my car has it. The other day I had the fob in my pocket and Skip was in the car and I went to go back in the house, the car gets pissed off when you do that and shuts off. Though I do like walking up to my car and touching the sensor and having the doors unlock.
I could never wear a watch with the HRM on my wrist I wear my watch way too loose. I don’t like anything tight on my wrists, watches, jackets, bracelets. Maybe I was a prisoner hung by my wrists in a previous life.