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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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There is no such thing as cheating when it comes to weight loss unless you're a member of the biggest loser. We're not in competition.
Fake sugars are definitely not healthy, though probably not worse than being 30 lbs overweight from drinking too much soda.
I join competitions for fun, but I go to the gym to train or burn calories. Fitness is a side-effect.
The facts on artificial sweeteners disagree with your opinion.6 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »On the flip of things being more expensive in Australia - our wages are significantly higher than the US. I mean, absolute buttloads higher. A person flipping burgers at McDonalds is on $18 an hour. Working behind a bar can get you up to $30 an hour, depending on the day. More on public holidays etc.
Working in an office is easily a minimum $35,000 per year job with 4 weeks paid holidays, 10 paid sick days and maternity leave.
When I lived in the US, I worked at a shop for $6 an hour, and as an office manager/paralegal for $10 an hour. No paid leave whatsoever. No healthcare, no benefits.
Having lived and worked in both countries, prices may be higher here, but I can afford to live a lot better here than I could there.
This.
It's about wages vs cost of living. You can't compare apples to apples (or lamb to lamb as it were) without adjusting for that.4 -
I believe fast food is toxic and should only be eaten if last/only food on the planet. Very unpopular view here on MFP.
I believe that HAES is a ballocks
I believe that being healthy and fit is the true body positivity and self love...not this pretend love for self while destroying ones body through obesity and neglect.
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I would have to disagree that all FF is toxic, what part of selectively eating it is toxic. Hamburger is hamburger no where it is cooked, slices of cheese and the bun, same thing. The Lettuce, Onions and Tomatoes should also be OK.
In my case every now & then I buy a Burger King Whopper with the flame broiled hamburger, no cheese. Discard most of the bun, Eat the Vegetables and the Burger as 95% of it. That gives me what becomes a flame broiled Beef Patty and a vegetable salad,
OTOH I do find that many baked goods are bad for me. Sweets such as Pies, Cakes, Donuts, Cookies, Bagels, cupcakes and Ice cream have a instant effect in causing a huge craving for more of them. Add in the way they lead to water retention which is much worse than happens with salty foods BTW and I Try to stay away from them.
Or to put it another way there are worse things to eat than Fast Food.
Have a Nice Day
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re: cost of eating well. I don't spend any more or less than I did before on food. I spend about $150.00-175.00/week now same as when I was obese.0
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007dualitygirl wrote: »826_Midazaslam wrote: »Blaming your metabolism is such a cop-out.
Nothing drives me crazier than someone telling me they can't lose ANY weight because their metabolism is too slow. It's simple, CICO. Yes there are cellular differences in how your body metabolizes things, but at the end of the day, if you burn 2000 calories and only put in 1500, you're going to lose weight. Your metabolism is not some magical thing that defies the laws of thermodynamics.
Not true. Hypothyroid causes me much grief. If I eat too little, all metabolic hell breaks lose and I gain weight. There is a balance that is required. Many times people are eating TOO FEW calories and their body is on lockdown.
A calculator can say "you burned 1500 calories today" and you can eat 1000 calories, but if in reality, you only burned 1000 calories that day because you have metabolic syndrome or hypothyroidism, you will not see results at all.
Point being that you have to take responsibility for increasing your metabolism along with keeping your caloric intake at bay.
That being said, if there are no real metabolic issues -- then I totally agree.
For metabolic issues, FIX the metabolism problem ... people say they have a slow metabolism while drinking alcohol everyday, never lifting weights to increase muscle mass, never doing HiiT cardio ... never working on their stress levels ... etc -- well that is irresponsible.
I'm going to go have my wine now and stop complaining about how I can't lose 20 pounds
no just no.
and there is no way to "eat too little and gain weight" such a cop out6 -
I don't spend more either. I probably spend less, as I am less likely to order in for dinner (which is expensive) or to buy lunch (same, compared to cooking), and more likely to use all of the food I buy and not let anything go to waste (which happened when I cooked less consistently, although really that change happened quite a while ago). Also, when I do go out to eat I'm more likely to get 2-3 meals out of it.
I think a lot of the comparisons are not like to like. A candy bar is a snack, carrots are part of a meal and contribute nutrients, so calorie to calorie is not the point. Similarly, McD's should be compared to cheaper at home staples, like ground beef, chicken thighs, frozen and in season veg, not organic out of season stuff. Wild-caught salmon and grass fed beef and organics need to be compared to restaurants that serve that kind of stuff or convenience foods that involve them -- typically you pay for convenience.
Now, IMO, nothing wrong with paying for convenience, especially if it's worth the cost to make eating well more sustainable.3 -
007dualitygirl wrote: »826_Midazaslam wrote: »Blaming your metabolism is such a cop-out.
Nothing drives me crazier than someone telling me they can't lose ANY weight because their metabolism is too slow. It's simple, CICO. Yes there are cellular differences in how your body metabolizes things, but at the end of the day, if you burn 2000 calories and only put in 1500, you're going to lose weight. Your metabolism is not some magical thing that defies the laws of thermodynamics.
Not true. Hypothyroid causes me much grief. If I eat too little, all metabolic hell breaks lose and I gain weight. There is a balance that is required. Many times people are eating TOO FEW calories and their body is on lockdown.
A calculator can say "you burned 1500 calories today" and you can eat 1000 calories, but if in reality, you only burned 1000 calories that day because you have metabolic syndrome or hypothyroidism, you will not see results at all.
Point being that you have to take responsibility for increasing your metabolism along with keeping your caloric intake at bay.
That being said, if there are no real metabolic issues -- then I totally agree.
For metabolic issues, FIX the metabolism problem ... people say they have a slow metabolism while drinking alcohol everyday, never lifting weights to increase muscle mass, never doing HiiT cardio ... never working on their stress levels ... etc -- well that is irresponsible.
I'm going to go have my wine now and stop complaining about how I can't lose 20 pounds
The impact of thyroid and metabolism is minimal. This amounts to ~5% reduction in BMR/REE based on clinical results. This amounts to 80 kcals/day out of a 1600 kcal/day budget.5 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »I don't spend more either. I probably spend less, as I am less likely to order in for dinner (which is expensive) or to buy lunch (same, compared to cooking), and more likely to use all of the food I buy and not let anything go to waste (which happened when I cooked less consistently, although really that change happened quite a while ago). Also, when I do go out to eat I'm more likely to get 2-3 meals out of it.
I think a lot of the comparisons are not like to like. A candy bar is a snack, carrots are part of a meal and contribute nutrients, so calorie to calorie is not the point. Similarly, McD's should be compared to cheaper at home staples, like ground beef, chicken thighs, frozen and in season veg, not organic out of season stuff. Wild-caught salmon and grass fed beef and organics need to be compared to restaurants that serve that kind of stuff or convenience foods that involve them -- typically you pay for convenience.
Now, IMO, nothing wrong with paying for convenience, especially if it's worth the cost to make eating well more sustainable.
This comment makes me think of something a very wise designer told me; he intended it for the graphic design market, but I think it applies to food as well: "You can get it cheap, fast, or good--but pick two 'cause you can't have all three at the same time." (Red Robin gets pretty darn close though!)10 -
TeacupsAndToning wrote: »
I drink generic diet coke. I might as well be drinking antifreeze!
I drink diet Mountain Dew. I think that is antifreeze.
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Unless you are at death's door WLS is never the answer. I lost 100lbs in 18 months. NO WLS, no pills, no magic belt, ... eating right, exercise, and lot of self discipline. I have recently put about 20 back on due to very stressful situations... I moved and I'm back at it to finish what I started. WLS is unhealthy, dangerous, and you will look like crap afterward, kind of like a melted candle...LOL. I aslo in the process of losing the pounds, reversed my type 2 diabetes and my thyroid levels now test normal with no medication... diabetes, thyroid, PCOS.. are not reasons you're not losing weight... those are reasons you NEED to lose weight!6
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TeacupsAndToning wrote: »
I drink generic diet coke. I might as well be drinking antifreeze!
I drink diet Mountain Dew. I think that is antifreeze.
Edited for spelling.
And a contraceptive1 -
TheWickedPixie wrote: »Unless you are at death's door WLS is never the answer. I lost 100lbs in 18 months. NO WLS, no pills, no magic belt, ... eating right, exercise, and lot of self discipline. I have recently put about 20 back on due to very stressful situations... I moved and I'm back at it to finish what I started. WLS is unhealthy, dangerous, and you will look like crap afterward, kind of like a melted candle...LOL. I aslo in the process of losing the pounds, reversed my type 2 diabetes and my thyroid levels now test normal with no medication... diabetes, thyroid, PCOS.. are not reasons you're not losing weight... those are reasons you NEED to lose weight!
My thyroid hormone tests didn't change anywhere along the path from obese to the low end of normal BMI (BMI 20), so I'm thinking that what you're arguing is not Universal Truth.
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That anyone who shares opinions about other people's clothing at the gym - like VPL, camel toe, etc., and generally anything short of legally actionable indecent exposure - should be ashamed him/herself, STFU, and work a little harder because his/her own personal workout isn't consuming enough mind-share.
(Not even going to mention how irritating it is that these observations seem more frequently to concern women's appearance, vs., say, what may be observable in men wearing spandex bike shorts.)20 -
When people say things like "Oh I am getting a muffin top, I better start doing sit ups" ugh! And when people complain about their weight and their health while they're shoving over processed chemicals and toxins pretending to be food in their mouth! When someone says "I eat healthy and exercise, I don't know why I can't lose weight" duh...
I am a firm believer in the use of supplementation to help with weight loss, or cutting efforts!
Milk/dairy is bad. There's no other species in the world that drinks the bodily fluid of another species... and it's gross. The dairy industry has most people in this world completely fooled!
Obesity is because people are too lazy to educate themselves, too lazy to pick up a product and read a label and WAY to lazy to actually buy, bring home and prepare something. I mean why buy an actual head of broccoli when you can buy it in a bag loaded with cheese sauce and sodium.4 -
cushman5279 wrote: »When people say things like "Oh I am getting a muffin top, I better start doing sit ups" ugh! And when people complain about their weight and their health while they're shoving over processed chemicals and toxins pretending to be food in their mouth! When someone says "I eat healthy and exercise, I don't know why I can't lose weight" duh...
I am a firm believer in the use of supplementation to help with weight loss, or cutting efforts!
Milk/dairy is bad. There's no other species in the world that drinks the bodily fluid of another species... and it's gross. The dairy industry has most people in this world completely fooled!
Obesity is because people are too lazy to educate themselves, too lazy to pick up a product and read a label and WAY to lazy to actually buy, bring home and prepare something. I mean why buy an actual head of broccoli when you can buy it in a bag loaded with cheese sauce and sodium.
Ants "farm" aphids for a fluid they secrete.
No other animal builds planes or writes novels either.37 -
cushman5279 wrote: »When people say things like "Oh I am getting a muffin top, I better start doing sit ups" ugh! And when people complain about their weight and their health while they're shoving over processed chemicals and toxins pretending to be food in their mouth! When someone says "I eat healthy and exercise, I don't know why I can't lose weight" duh...
I am a firm believer in the use of supplementation to help with weight loss, or cutting efforts!
Milk/dairy is bad. There's no other species in the world that drinks the bodily fluid of another species... and it's gross. The dairy industry has most people in this world completely fooled!
Obesity is because people are too lazy to educate themselves, too lazy to pick up a product and read a label and WAY to lazy to actually buy, bring home and prepare something. I mean why buy an actual head of broccoli when you can buy it in a bag loaded with cheese sauce and sodium.
No other species uses a computer or smart phone. Yet here you are...
And no other species specifically breeds plants and produces cultivators, yet here you are eating broccoli, a human invention.
http://indianapublicmedia.org/amomentofscience/the-first-broccoli/18 -
Milk fits my macros and has potassium and calcium.
What do you put in your coffee and on your cereal??
I have lots of valid arguments against soy/almond/coconut fake milk, too.5 -
I gained weight on healthy high-calorie homemade foods in immoderate portions, for the most part. Eating out was a couple-of-times a season thing, and most processed foods were stuff like buying jarred marinara instead of making my own (and if I did make my own, it was with canned tomatoes). It wasn't laziness. It was life and stress and spending my energy elsewhere. Never used or needed supplements, btw. Haven't for the last 62.4 lbs lost, doubt I will for the 61.6 to go.8
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And humans aren't the only the only animals that drink the milk of another species. Other animals will if the opportunity arises, and some make their opportunity. Sheathbills will steal the milk of the elephant seal.
http://web.uvic.ca/~mamu/sheathbills.html16 -
The_Enginerd wrote: »And humans aren't the only the only animals that drink the milk of another species. Other animals will if the opportunity arises, and some make their opportunity. Sheathbills will steal the milk of the elephant seal.
http://web.uvic.ca/~mamu/sheathbills.html
This is fascinating, I never knew this. Thanks!0 -
This may be unpopular, but I feel like a person's health and fitness is that person's business.
Unless someone asks for advice or my opinion I really just don't care.
I worry about what works for me and what I think is best for me. I acknowledge what works for me and what I think is best for me is not necessarily what's going to work/what's best for you.
In short, you do you and I do me.
This wins the thread.8 -
cushman5279 wrote: »When people say things like "Oh I am getting a muffin top, I better start doing sit ups" ugh! And when people complain about their weight and their health while they're shoving over processed chemicals and toxins pretending to be food in their mouth! When someone says "I eat healthy and exercise, I don't know why I can't lose weight" duh...
I am a firm believer in the use of supplementation to help with weight loss, or cutting efforts!
Milk/dairy is bad. There's no other species in the world that drinks the bodily fluid of another species... and it's gross. The dairy industry has most people in this world completely fooled!
Obesity is because people are too lazy to educate themselves, too lazy to pick up a product and read a label and WAY to lazy to actually buy, bring home and prepare something. I mean why buy an actual head of broccoli when you can buy it in a bag loaded with cheese sauce and sodium.
@cushman5279 are you trying to start a wet nurse business? cause you know that could be the next "new" thing...
and I actually disagree and can prove you wrong...I've seen on many dif occasions baby animals nursing "other types" of animals...kittens with dogs...puppies with Cats
Orphaned animals in general will eat what they are given due to survival...so Yah no try again11 -
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cushman5279 wrote: »And when people complain about their weight and their health while they're shoving over processed chemicals and toxins pretending to be food in their mouth! ...
I am a firm believer in the use of supplementation to help with weight loss, or cutting efforts!
Hello Irony, how good to see you.
Those same supplements that generally speaking have no scientific evidence, clinical trials, or basis in verifiable facts? I can't roll my eyes back in my head far enough.31 -
I love milk. I think it is awesome. I have dairy products pretty much with every meal.
No, I was not paid for this promotion.
I think pork cracklins are kind of gross, does that count as an unpopular opinion? Because my DH loves them.8 -
cushman5279 wrote: »When people say things like "Oh I am getting a muffin top, I better start doing sit ups" ugh! And when people complain about their weight and their health while they're shoving over processed chemicals and toxins pretending to be food in their mouth! When someone says "I eat healthy and exercise, I don't know why I can't lose weight" duh...
I am a firm believer in the use of supplementation to help with weight loss, or cutting efforts!
Milk/dairy is bad. There's no other species in the world that drinks the bodily fluid of another species... and it's gross. The dairy industry has most people in this world completely fooled!
Obesity is because people are too lazy to educate themselves, too lazy to pick up a product and read a label and WAY to lazy to actually buy, bring home and prepare something. I mean why buy an actual head of broccoli when you can buy it in a bag loaded with cheese sauce and sodium.
LOL - so supplements (chemicals) for weight loss, but avoid the chemicals in processed foods?
and there is nothing wrong with dairy..I have been drinking milk since that day I was born, and am doing just fine.13 -
WayTooHonest wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »And when people complain about their weight and their health while they're shoving over processed chemicals and toxins pretending to be food in their mouth! ...
I am a firm believer in the use of supplementation to help with weight loss, or cutting efforts!
Hello Irony, how good to see you.
Those same supplements that generally speaking have no scientific evidence, clinical trials, or basis in verifiable facts? I can't roll my eyes back in my head far enough.
The fact that a product is classified under supplement regulations shows that the product may be safe, but is unable to prove effectiveness.5 -
cushman5279 wrote: »When people say things like "Oh I am getting a muffin top, I better start doing sit ups" ugh! And when people complain about their weight and their health while they're shoving over processed chemicals and toxins pretending to be food in their mouth! When someone says "I eat healthy and exercise, I don't know why I can't lose weight" duh...
I am a firm believer in the use of supplementation to help with weight loss, or cutting efforts!
Milk/dairy is bad. There's no other species in the world that drinks the bodily fluid of another species... and it's gross. The dairy industry has most people in this world completely fooled!
Obesity is because people are too lazy to educate themselves, too lazy to pick up a product and read a label and WAY to lazy to actually buy, bring home and prepare something. I mean why buy an actual head of broccoli when you can buy it in a bag loaded with cheese sauce and sodium.
@cushman5279 are you trying to start a wet nurse business? cause you know that could be the next "new" thing...
and I actually disagree and can prove you wrong...I've seen on many dif occasions baby animals nursing "other types" of animals...kittens with dogs...puppies with Cats
Orphaned animals in general will eat what they are given due to survival...so Yah no try again
She has had scientific articles to demonstrate this to her on other threads (there are a variety of peer reviewed articles on livestock loss due to nursing stock loss due specifically to the contents of their stomach), so she knows this is true, but she likes to continue to distribute her propaganda. I guess "fundamentally dishonest propaganda" would certainly fall under "unpopular opinions."9 -
WayTooHonest wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »And when people complain about their weight and their health while they're shoving over processed chemicals and toxins pretending to be food in their mouth! ...
I am a firm believer in the use of supplementation to help with weight loss, or cutting efforts!
Hello Irony, how good to see you.
Those same supplements that generally speaking have no scientific evidence, clinical trials, or basis in verifiable facts? I can't roll my eyes back in my head far enough.
The fact that a product is classified under supplement regulations shows that the product may be safe, but is unable to prove effectiveness.
Wait...I feel like I said exactly that...
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cushman5279 wrote: »Milk/dairy is bad. There's no other species in the world that drinks the bodily fluid of another species... and it's gross. The dairy industry has most people in this world completely fooled!
Noooope. Science says otherwise: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27882862?log$=activity4
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